Everton Banter Archive May 17 2013

17 May 2013 23:11:48
Lets forget all this moyes says this says that rubbish. After Sunday he has no say in future of our fantastic club, your future is at Manchester United thanks for everything but you have moved on and so will we. We will only grow bigger and better thanks to you but your input is not here anymore.

He's really beginning to annoy me tbh the way he's pushing stubbs, weir, neville and dunc forward for the job. I wish he would keep his nose out of things, but we all know that Kenwright worships the ground moyes walks on, so wouldn't be surprised to see one of those novices get the job.

Mr Ferguson over the last week or so has enlightened us evertonians to what has actually been going on behind the scenes. It is no coincidence that moyes let it be known months ago that he was nt going to sign his contract and was going to wait until the end of the season?

Then we here from ferguson in an interview on tv that he made his mind up at Christmas that he was going to retire, convenient? Then we here that within 48 hours moyes was going to be man u's new manager again convenient? "How long do negotiations take" seeing that he was in London for more than 24 hrs talking to Kenwright and watching Chelsea?

Ferguson then on parading the championship stated that Rooney wanted to leave. The next couple of days he then says that it's down to moyes to make the decision whether he leaves or not, even though moyes is still under contract with everton. We then hear allegedly that moyes is "trying to persuade him to stay" why is he speaking to him.

In an article written by Richard Tanner in the express with Ferguson we now are told that giggs, scholes and butt are part of the back room staff and this was sorted a while ago.

To rub salt in to the wounds moyes is supposed to be taking up the post on the first of July, but according to ferguson moyes will be sorting the Rooney situation out "quickly".

If this is not collusion and backdoor dealings then ferguson and moyes obviously think people are very naive or stupid, at best this is poaching.

David moyes is now trying to promote his back room staff for the managers job, he has no right whatsoever, he has lost that right, moyes has secretly worked with ferguson behind the scenes and sold our great club and our supporters down the river. I have lost all respect for him, and Kenwright should now speak to the supporters and the board only to ascertain who they want as manager and not to be dictated to by an untrustworthy man.

Taysefc

Well, he`ll obviously be asked these questions.

I`d take no notice of what his suggestions are because what would you like him to say?

`Actually, i`m off to United so I couldn`t give a rats behind who they get`?

Media soundbites, that`s all it is.

Now, if he championed Rene Girard for the job, then it`s time to listen.

Moyes out!

As soon as he said he was joining unt, it should have been, black bin bag, 20 minutes to clear your desk, and two security men to escort him off the site. The man is an unprincipled liar, his deal was ( imho ) set up months ago.

17 May 2013 22:12:42
Please ed can you help me out with all this rubbish about stubbs, ferguson, weir and all of our ex legends becoming manager because it ain't funny and that's not being disrespectfull to these guys who are players I have a lot of respect for but they ain't got enough experience to manager our club but definately good enough to be our coaching staff. What we need to think about is 1. Do we want a foreign coach - no 2. Do we want a manager who is young - yes 3. Do we want a manager who gets the most out of his players on a small budget - yes
So when should roberto martinez be unveiled s our new boss
cmon lads let's get behind him

dave {Ed007's Note - You do know that Martinez is Spanish don't you Dave? I'm sure that makes him 'foreign', although I don't have my Atlas globe to hand right now.}

17 May 2013 21:46:21
Lets forget all this moyes says this says that rubbish. After Sunday he has no say in future of our fantastic club, your future is at Manchester United thanks for everything but you have moved on and so will we. We will only grow bigger and better thanks to you but your input is not here anymore.

Until July 1st David Moyes is the manager of Everton Football Club so he does have a say until then.

What's he going to do for 6 weeks

June 1st not july 1st

17 May 2013 19:29:17
To all the fellas who want Benitez, picture the scenario. He comes to Everton, wins us a long awaited trophy, Liverpool sack Brenda because they show no improvement, they then come to us and ask to speak to our manager, BK says no, Benitez resigns, takes up the role of manager of the RS because they're the love of his life, and we're back to square one, because we all know that's exactly what would happen. Anyone still want him? {Ed007's Note - You were doing well until the part you mentioned Everton winning a trophy.}

Haha, nice 1 ed 007.

I don't wan him butif your right then at least we would win a trophy

17 May 2013 18:54:13
Am not going to say who we should get as our next manager but I will say who we shouldn't, when Moyes took over we where relegation fighters year after year and we needed someone to make us better and take us forward, Moyes has done this to such an extent that now when we are looking for a new manager we need to asses what it is we need.
Are we still relagation fighters. NO, have we become regular top 6 finishers. YES.
So do we now need to employ someone who has got his team relegated from the prem or a lower league manager that has had minor success or does the next man we employ need to reflect our premier status and be a man that has won or at least challenged for a top league (not the SPL) and has European
Experience because this is where we are now, challenging at the top end of one of the best leagues in the world and are ready to face the challenge of European football.
We need to set our sites a lot higher than what am seeing on here and in the national press.
With the right man this sleeping giant could finally wake!!

Great post. spot on

17 May 2013 16:13:47
laudrup from Swansea is being linked to become the new everton manager

No chance, already ruled himself out

17 May 2013 15:23:00
Anybody else not happy at all about Zola seeming to be the new favourite? I really like him as a person, but he hasn't proven himself as a manager. Did alright with West Ham one season, then nearly got them relegated the next and subsequently got sacked. Gone on to do Okay in the championship, but that proves nothing and we should be aiming much higher.

There has been a new favourite every day since the announcement was made! People are just making things up, the club isn't saying a word!

17 May 2013 17:47:38
I don't think people appreciate his standing in the game, especially amongst players and in Italy. I love the thought of him coaching Barkley and Green!

17 May 2013 11:25:06
David Moyes has agreed not to pursue a £40 million swoop for Everton aces Leighton Baines and Marouane Fellaini.
Although talks between Moyes and chairman, Bill Kenwright, were friendly and 'professional' when the 51-year-old quit the Merseyside club last week, an agreement prohibiting Manchester United from snaring Everton's two biggest names has been agreed by the man chosen by the Old Trafford hierarchy to succeed Sir Alex Ferguson.
"We're confident Baines and Fellaini will be with us next season, " a senior Everton source revealed.
"The chairman and manager had very constructive talks last week, and while we couldn't do anything to prevent David joining United, we have been able to gain an agreement that means nothing will be done to unsettle Leighton and Marouane.
"We need our best players here for whoever takes over the reins. So selling our best assets is not an option. "
The news will be welcome relief for Everton fans, who have become increasingly concerned in recent days that the exit of Moyes could lead to an exodus of the club's most talented players - starting with Baines and Fellaini.
"Both are critical to the future success of Everton, " added the source. "They are integral to our plans going forward. "
don't know if the link is allowed
1878barlow

Nonsense, moyes is out of contract so no such agreement has any merit!
£40 mill you can have them!

Moyes will only try for them if another
Club comes in first. Then he will be
Free to match any bids.

17 May 2013 17:51:18
Actually Moyes could be on dodgy legal ground if he did come in for them and yes I am a lawyer.

1) Moyes being out of contract has nothing to do with it. It's probable that in this meeting between BK & Moyes, that Bill asked Dave not to go in for the players for a year, and Dave agreed. Doesn't have to be in writing.
2) Who ever says "£40 mill you can have them" is ridiculous. The sum should be closer to £50 million in my opinion.
3) "Then he will be Free to match any bids" again, back to my point in 1), that still doesn't really have much to do with it, if BK & DM have a verbal agreement, it's unlikely Moyes would break that agreement, being the loyal man he is

Does any remember Bills verbal agreement with Dan Gosling?

To the 'lawyer'. You must have gone to a dodgy law school then mate because it would be against the Restraint of Trade act to restrict freedom to conduct business when not under contract.

Moyes and BK had an agreement that moyes would decide what he was doing at the end of the season and look were that ended up

17 May 2013 09:59:15
Has anyone seen that the benfica coach wants a move to English football he's done really well with braga and benfica play positive attacking football source tv

17 May 2013 11:29:49
We should be more ruthless in are search for a manage. all this about will take time to find the right one surly they must have a list and in stead of worrying about upset people and wait till the end of the season man u did not wait the could not care who the upset to get the right manager. Be more ruthless strike now before somebody else has.

We are everton mate and not man united. we do things properly. also because of the global size of united, they needed to appoint their manager as soon as they could, otherwise the hype and the media would have been crazy. then us evertonians would have been slating the club saying we should announce something regarding moyes's future. I agree with the way we are doing things, also u don't know what is happening behind closed doors. united was exceptional circumstances I am afraid.
1878barlow

17 May 2013 09:43:31
still remember how everyone was criticizing Coleman and he turned out to be a good young player same is the case with guye give the lad a chance first this season we need youth in our squad so my ideal transfer would be.

out Fellinaini 30 - 35 m

ins : lescott 4
honda 5. 5
fer 8
corneilius 5
and another signing ideal transfer window PK BLUE

Fellaini has a well known release clause of around 25million so why would teams, espcially teams in the champs league, bid more than that? but would love that money for him

1878barlow

May start a bit of a bidding war. he is easy worth 30 million IMO. Jlaff

It would not start a bidding war. As soon as a club meet his release clause he is free to negotiate with said club. Allegedly it's around £23-24m and the club must be a CL club. The only scenario, as I understand it, where a bidding war becomes possible is if the team (s) bidding for him are not CL teams but MF has said himself he wants to play CL football, so he'd likely not be interested in leaving for a team not competing in the CL.

With a release clause a bidding war won't happen they will all offer that figure and then persuade him with higher wages than the oposition not more money for us, more money for Felli i'm afraid

Svenny

Thanks for the clarification chaps. Jlaff

17 May 2013 17:11:19
Fellaini has a buyout clause and out of the signings you mentioned i'd rather not have cornelius as he is incredibly slow and clumsy and his ball control is very poor he is olivier giroud without any power whatsoever and a big no to honda aswell please as he is good at free kicks nothing else

People stating Fellaini's "release clause" like it's fact, but has there actually been anything official about this figure/clause or is it just internet fuelled speculation?

17 May 2013 02:19:10
roneys comin to everton. its always been his plan. even more now moyes has gone. you will see bigest drama of the summer. evertonrthebest

17 May 2013 00:40:06
All, seeing as Everyman and his dog has been nominated I thought I'd chuck a spanner in the works. as an ex everton player I liked him. a few years managerial experience now. so assuming I won't get my choice, I. e. 1. Rafa, 2. Laudrup. what do people think of Stuart McCall? Great tenacity as a player, managed Bradford, Motherwell ( I think he sodding ok there now actually). loads of shouts for dunc and Stubbs, but surely McCall has a little more years under his belt!

My brothers business is called spanner in the works, maybe my brother will take over even though he is a swansea fan and his gf is a red

Agree, I put McCall in the frame last week.