Everton Banter Archive August 18 2015

18 Aug 2015 20:45:04
I really don't see why we would need to sell Stones now or in the future. To be honest, Chelsea are not a bigger club, they may be considerably richer, but they never have been and never will be a bigger club. They will also never conduct themselves in the dignified manner that befits a big club such as ourselves.
John Stones is obviously happy here. He became a regular member of the England squad whilst an Everton player and will become a cornerstone of the England side if he remains an Everton player.
If the manager sees him as pivotal to his plans, then he must be allowed to stay regardless of the figures offered by Chelsea. Given the way that Chelsea have conducted themselves I feel that this has now become a matter of principle and unless the player requests a move then he should remain here. After all, there is no reason why he should not be able to fulfill his ambitions at his current " big club ".

{Ed025's Note - good post that SB..

19 Aug 2015 00:46:12
Chelsea have luckily got an owner who has taken them into a new era of football where as money talks. When you say they are not a big club, I would say not a big history in terms of trophies but they are certainly a top club not only in England but in European football. Chelsea have also been challenging for major trophies over the last 15 years where as Everton have been happy to be a top ten team. So after saying that I would say Chelsea are a more attractive club for players who want to play at the highest level of club football with a very good chance of winning trophies. So in saying this you have to make your history somewhere and Chelsea are doing that now.

19 Aug 2015 04:00:24
As much as it hurts to say where no were near a big club in this modern era, no champs league ever, 1 cup, tiny budget and a stadium well past its sell by date.
I don't get why poeple get so defensive when it comes to their own club, its better to be realistic than so irate, every players for sale every club will sell at the right price it happens with us an happens with non league teams right the way up 2 barca

18 Aug 2015 18:32:06
tony (who are you?) gale on ssn reckons at 35 mil we would have to sell, just strangled the telly. what a plonker.

18 Aug 2015 19:56:04
Like all pundits and journalists, whether or not we like them and whether or not we like what they say/write, they're entitled to express an opinion - that's what they're paid for I guess!
The same goes imho about whoever posts on here. I might disagree with what's posted, but their right to express an opinion (without being obscene or bigoted or overly offensive) is sacrosanct.
What gets me is that the pundits and journalists don't seem to be held to account if their predictions are proved wrong. It's no excuse in my book for them to claim they're just reporting what's being talked about in football - that's a feeble excuse.
It's said football is a results business - and managers, coaches, players, etc., are sacked if they don't perform - but the pundits seem bullet-proof. Here's a question for my fellow posters: who is your favourite pundit on telly and who is your favourite football journalist? Conversely, who are the ones you don't like?

18 Aug 2015 22:59:30
Sid coming from Ireland we have a few pundits of our own over here. Youtube Eamon dunphy and look at some of the things he says. Talks through his backside a lot but he isn't afraid to call it as it is. Was taken off air before for going on drunk, had to apologise for sayin f**k someone when he didn't realise he was back on air.he has some good debates with didi hamann and Graeme souness as well.well worth checking him out.

18 Aug 2015 15:29:45
The more I think about it do we really need to be spending big money on a cb? As long as we keep stones I think we'll be ok. Galloway and browning are sufficient cover now for me. Possibly Ron vlar on a free would be a good option to boost numbers? Either way I'd much rather we spent what ever money we have on getting a deal done for yarmolenko I really rate this lad and can see him slotting straight in. If we managed to pull this one off imagine the boost it would give everybody!

18 Aug 2015 22:17:20
We definitely need a centre back, Galloway has played 3 games at left back at browning has played less than 90 mins overall. Yes they both look promising but to trust them as rotation/ cover without adding another would be naive imo

18 Aug 2015 23:01:05
Maybe but money better spent elsewhere in my opinion and I really do think Galloway is at the same level stones was at at this point last season. Like I say Ron vlaar on a free makes perfect sence to me

19 Aug 2015 14:30:04
Vlaar is out injured for 4 months

18 Aug 2015 13:35:31
Not a fan of either but Talksport and ssn both making noises about the Yarmalenko to Everton possible transfer - surely it must have some legs for it to be circulated? Would love it to happen but just can't see it

18 Aug 2015 11:51:15
For the record I think Stones is quality, and is a potential future England captain, that saying, I think if we get anywhere near 40million we should take it! As good as Stones is he is only a CB and half his price is due his amazing potential and because he's English (always pushes the price up jus look at Sterling). Realisticly how much can his price go up any more this season without European football or an international competition??

Now in saying all that I would only sell at 40 million provided the cash doesn't end up with the Arteta money!

18 Aug 2015 15:35:41
Why would you sell our best players?

18 Aug 2015 16:19:28
I'm with wakka, why sell our best players and his value will keep going up.

18 Aug 2015 11:27:21
Just now logged onto the ssn pages and it popped up straight away, Everton reject 3rd bid from Chelsea for Stones, £30 million

I friggin love this club, that's great news and will give everyone a gee up, not that we need one after the weekend.

Feeling better every day, Yarmalenko next

18 Aug 2015 10:32:37
if stones is sold for 40 mil and it's all reinvested in the team would that soften the blow of losing him

18 Aug 2015 11:21:08
I think we would sell for 35 million Bill, I know it's hard to take but my head would take that as long as we got to invest the lot, he is a great prospect and that's great money for a prospect, my heart says keep him as we must have money to spend anyway, only thing is he would become unsettled as we couldn't afford to pay him top wages, he is going eventually so its a gamble, keep him and hope he progresses then sell next season, bit of a gamble for our club that, or sell and invest now.

Takes me back to Rodwell, great prospect but we all know that story, there have been a number of players like that throughout every team, it's a gamble but looking at the lad and how cool and calm he is, also the 3 big spenders will all need a young CB by the beginning of next season, I say sod them all and let's get 50 million for him next season (hopefully)

18 Aug 2015 12:43:35
I can see where your coming from murf but what sort of message does it send to the rest of the squad when we sell our best players! Not to mention the message that it sends to the rest of the premier league it tells every one even when Everton players aren't for sale u can get them anyway because they are only a small club. Keep him no matter what for now then if we do decide to sell one day do it on our own terms

18 Aug 2015 13:35:32
murf I'd be OK with that keep him this season sell him for 50 mil and overhaul our squad as we know every player has their price

18 Aug 2015 10:12:37
Valdes would be a keeper to look at for no:1 or 2 Ed

18 Aug 2015 11:16:38
He be on massive wages and is not much better then howard if we get keeper it should be young one.

18 Aug 2015 16:22:10
huge wages and cannot catch a cold.

18 Aug 2015 08:30:41
I said it yesterday and will repeat my post but if John Stones is allegedly worth £35m then we could not afford to buy him, that's more than our record signing Lukaku who was £28m, would you want to sell him and buy say Troy Deeney? then why sell a player of Stones quality only to replace with lesser players, and we are accusing the board of no ambition? then some posters on here need to take a look closer at home if that's what they see as good business.

18 Aug 2015 00:43:44
Just interested to see some other opinions, if we could have one of Austin and Berahino who would you pick. Personally I would have Berahino because he is fast like Rom, maybe faster and that has proven lukaku's best asset for us. Given that I feel he would fit our playing style better. Anyone else?

18 Aug 2015 11:45:35
Would depend on how much both for? Austin has had a good season in prem and I think berahino is still potential and more of a gamble.

18 Aug 2015 16:24:41
Berahino would cost 10m more and isn't an out and out striker. Austin for me.