Everton Banter Archive January 18 2020

18 Jan 2020 18:38:21
Carlo's post match comments are absolutely spot on and brutally honest. Really refreshing to hear. Wish we had got him 5 years ago before we wasted millions.

18 Jan 2020 18:51:45
He is some Manager.

18 Jan 2020 19:02:37
Couldn't afford him 5 years ago.

18 Jan 2020 19:15:40
Ok 4 years ago when moshiri joined the club.

18 Jan 2020 23:01:50
And we can afford him now?

18 Jan 2020 17:03:33
Supporting everton is a life time subscription to mental torture.
Typical as we'd hem score, tosun scores for Palace.
We eventually end up with a worldclass manager, who coukd possibly attract world class players, but due to the fact that we have been so badly managed we now have no money to buy any players,
We have blew ridiculous sums of money on average players with ridiculous wages.
Michael kean, delph, sigurdson, schneiderlin, niasse, Davies, moise kean, tosun, iwobi.
Not good enough, impossible to move on.
Frustrating times.
As always.
Only positive is a point away from home. But its not pretty to watch if we are going to be honest.

18 Jan 2020 17:21:58
Get what ya saying but bare bones. I was expecting a defeat today if I'm honest.

18 Jan 2020 17:34:14
Oh look a bandwagon.
I can remember plenty of support for all those names you mention. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and we appear to have plenty on here who are blessed with it.

18 Jan 2020 17:49:36
Toffee it's the midfield thTa killing us, obviously when gomes and Gbamin are fit it helps, but frustrating whe you see th amount of players in that squad that simply are not good enough. Apart from Gomes, we have a, squad of centre mids who are too slow, not creative enough and we paid 70 million just for sigurdson and schneiderlin alone. Let that sink in!

18 Jan 2020 18:20:14
I never got Schneiderlin even when he had an OK season at Saints. However I can't deny I was made up when we got Sig. Even if its turned out to be a rip off and a player who's free kicks every 3 weeks on MOTD for Swans made it look like a great transfer. Swanseas last laugh before oblivion?

18 Jan 2020 19:34:14
Never wanted sig or schneiderlin at that price, sigurdson I've always said doesn't do anywhete near enough.
Michael kean there was better options.
I was happy with moise kean, as coukd of been a good prospect.
But the bottom line is, people are paid a fortune to sign these players, and it's not worked out. and why do some fans think its not ok to criticise the way the club has been managed, or criticise some players performances attitudes.
Its reality, it's OK to have an opinion that deveates from "stay positive" or "we are in transition"
This has her going on for absolute years.

18 Jan 2020 23:07:44
You guys have short memories. hasn't Siggurdson scored between 10 and 15 goals a season for us until this season?

18 Jan 2020 14:58:34
Don’t get Niasse if I was good enough to be a professional footballer wasn’t getting game time and had no future at a club I would be out putting myself about in the shop window and accepting a decent loan.

18 Jan 2020 14:46:50
Squad is so depleted. To have any chance of a win today the youngsters will have to play well.

18 Jan 2020 15:23:50
I heard we had the most players than any other club . how can we be depleted 🤔.

18 Jan 2020 18:49:04
I can't tell whether that's a serious question.

18 Jan 2020 11:21:12
See the Mail having a pop at us now, saying we have wasted 560m on players since Moyes left. However, no mention of the 320m we sold during that time.
This is over seven seasons, so giving us an average spend of 34m a season.
Now I know we haven't made the best buys on some of the players during this time, Klaassen springs to mind. But we are not the only club guilty of this.
Just feels like we are flavour of the month right now for the rags to have a pop.
Just saying like.

18 Jan 2020 11:48:05
It's a trend repeated through recent times. Blackburn got a pasting as did Chelsea and City. Big spending and rich owners become a target.
Sure we are walking a tight rope at the moment but I'd take it as a compliment that others are jealous.

18 Jan 2020 15:48:09
Difference is folks is that Blackburn, Chelsea and City improved to a point and won silverwear within x2 seasons of the spend. I would actually argue that we are no closer now to winning silverwear than we have been in the last 15 years. God knows how we have got CA as our manager- that’s one blessing.

18 Jan 2020 17:41:34
Blackburn won silverware as they were promoted. Still took a few years to win the prem.

City were able to spend to such a point that World football had to come up with FFP and the like to stop them. They had years to blow crazy money and didn't win the league as quickly as you might think and have still been pretty average in CL.

Chelsea had already been top 4 (or there abouts) under Bates and Vialli so not as much of a revolution as we need. And again spent huge, way before world football authorities had to design mechanisms to shackle them.

Shame we didn't get rich 15 years ago. Hence why we've not closed any gaps. Officially we're only penniess richer than WHam!

We've wasted 3 years. And this is still a 5 year mission.

17 Jan 2020 23:36:53
Hello fellow bloues I'm new to this I was just wondering if any of the Eds (if they don't mind) think usmanov would be welcomed to join Everton on the board in the future or just keep sponsoring. Also what exactly is going on with finance at the min with Everton it sounds worrying at the min or is it just a short term problem.

{Ed002's Note - The club is in very serious financial problems.}

18 Jan 2020 08:29:48
It makes me even more surprised Ancellotti took the job, if we are in a financial mess, I thought he woukd of been coaxed with a large promise of transfer funds, or am I way off the mark, i know you don't like talking with fans about the finances.

{Ed002's Note - Carlo took the job because Everton has made him the third highest paid coach in the world.}

18 Jan 2020 08:38:45
What is likely to be Evertons course of action to get the finances looking more healthy Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - There is a thought amongst certain parties that right now that they might continue spending money they don’t have, take any punishment and then sort it out. I can’t see that as being a viable way forward. But it is a real mess.}

18 Jan 2020 08:58:48
Maybe stating the obvious but this is a mess of our own making. Not party to what goes on in the background but those advisor (s) alluded to by ED, surely have to go.

18 Jan 2020 08:57:53
Is Everton in this mess financially because we have to many players on the wage bill or is it other reasons . if it's because we have so many players how many players would you think we have to sell or let go and not just from the first team to get us back on the straight and narrow . or if due to other reasons how can the club move forward with a new stadium if it's in such a mess financially?

{Ed002's Note - it is unrelated to the stadium - that will largely be a separate debt. The problem is the 85% of turnover goes on wages, large sums are going to advisors and agents, and money is being spent on buying players without offsetting costs against wages. This is completely unsustainable and needs either significantly increased turnover or player sales - although it is hard to see how the books from this year can be balanced which will lead to the enevitable.}

18 Jan 2020 09:47:38
Doesn’t help we are no better off in league position or any nearer to Europe despite all the spending / wages!

At least when city / Chelsea / Liverpool did there spending they went on to win league / Europe etc.

Unfortunately for us - 7-8 clubs have equal or more money and spending doesn’t guarantee success on and off field.

To attract players we have to pay more wages and I’m guessing more to agents.

Sandro prime example - I’m sure he could retire now on the money we have given him for his one goal.

On a better note - Kenny sin again yesterday - shalke are only one point of Byern Munich.

18 Jan 2020 10:44:33
Thanks ed . but why can't the owners see and understand what's going on and realized they are spending to much if they are successful business men?

{Ed002's Note - Firstly, it is rare that owners are involved with the day-to-day running of football clubs, although as we know he has influenced transfers and takes advice from two third parties. There is also the thought that taking a gamble on changing coaches and constantly changing players will bring success to Everton - it won't, so the gamble has not paid off. Arsenal was generally well run financially which is his previous experience of a football club - even though they have now taken a gamble that has failed and have a structure that needs completely gutting, they have the higher turnover that means they remain sustainable.}

18 Jan 2020 14:02:42
Alright Edo2 I might be wrong but I thought someone posted a question about maybe four weeks ago about finances at everton and like I say I may be wrong or misunderstood your reply but I thought u said everton won't break ffp rules.

{Ed002's Note - Not this year - but next year when this years results come in they will - as I have explained.}