Everton Banter Archive May 18 2014

 

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18 May 2014 21:32:33
Peniel Mlapa is linked with a few English clubs us being one with a couple others . He's 6ft 5 pacy, tall and strong only 23 a rising star. Scored a few for borrusia mongladimnotevengonnaspellit and played for German under21 around 15million for him. He would be a ideal replacement for Rom

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18 May 2014 20:07:36
Heard a few saying Alexandro Pato is fed up in the Brazilian football and what's to move back to European football preferably the premier league. He's only 24 quick, talented, very experienced and knows we're the net is.would fit in to the style of Robertos play and wouldn't go for more than 12-15million

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18 May 2014 20:37:16
cant finish, injury prone and is a failed prospect, no way

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Ten million an i'd take him in a flash

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Suffers from easy injuryitiss. Knowing our luck he would get a hamstring strain walking into the training ground.

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18 May 2014 16:12:41
Ed, with Stones looking like a decent cb for the future and a good replacement for Jags, do you think we'll be looking at another option to replace the aging Distin in next couple years. Really missed his pace and power towards end of season. Also, what other areas are you most concerned about strengthening?

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{Ed025's Note - the defence seems fine to me colonel, a CF, and a pacy winger would be my top targets mate..

18 May 2014 19:22:11
once distin retires that leaves alcaraz (who will leave at the end of next season), an aging jags and stones, we do have browning who will play a part in the first team but is he a left sided centre back? we could certainly do with cover there maybe next summer, not right now

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Martins indi would be a great distin replacement and probably only cost ~5m

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.Rodwell is returning in the summer, he's destined to be a top centre-back ultimately (as Alan Hansen as also already suggested).he is likely to be the future with Stones at centre back!

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18 May 2014 23:38:33
zacki, no offence, what are you smoking?

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Agree with quinny.ive been championing Martins Indi for a while now.seen somewhere man u were after him.big, strong and quick.left footed and plays centre half or left back.for 7-8 mill i'd take him in a flash

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Why do poeple still keep going back to Rodwell as a cb played there once for us and never for city but he's the future worldly there haha, I'm guessing you mean when he's fit as well

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I don't know why people keep talking about a 4th defender we have duffy who was on loan last season, with europe next year he could and should feature in our team

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18 May 2014 16:19:17
couple of really good young players from Holland

Tonny Vilhena

Jean-Paul Boetius

Alireza Jahanbakhsh


for me Jean-paul Boetius is what Pienaar used to be like on the left and a must buy

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18 May 2014 18:01:54
Which former blues players would you have in the current side's
I would have a fully fit younger tim Cahill. He'd score bags full of goals.
Even kanchelskis or sharp in their prime would be great in the current set up.

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Gotta be Dixie Dean and Kevin Ratcliffe.
Dean for his goalscoring
Ratcliffe for speed and passing from the back

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Cahill wouldn't work in this currant Everton team not good enough technically.

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How about the whole of the 85-87 team? :)

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Sheedy, let Barry and Macca win it give it to Sheeds. Just like watching Reidy and Bracewell. Getting all emotional now.

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19 May 2014 13:38:43
sheedy, kanchelskis, radcliffe, ball, kendall, sharp, lineker, dixie, nev southall the list of class players we have had play for this club are endless.

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Southall worlds best in his prime as was many of that squad,

sheedy/steven have to lean towards Steven just to see him and coleman together destroying everything in front of them

think Reid would fit into our current team perfectly

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I would have loved to have seen Peter Reid and Alan Ball play in the same team and Sharp and Grey as the best strike patnership I have seen for the blues just edging Vernon Young. The above players were good enough to fit in any team or style.thgfest

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18 May 2014 17:18:24
Just a thought if Micah Richards is available I say we go after him. Not as a right back but as a long term replacement for Distin. I'm sure Sylvain can guide over a couple of seasons and quick athletic centre backs like Distin are a premium. So you could have in 2 seasons time the new look Jags and Distin in Stones and Richards. Thoughts?

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We wouldn't need Cahill, Ross and Naisy play there. Has to be Dixie 60 goals a season sounds good

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Perma injured and never lived up to his potential for me

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18 May 2014 16:00:16
With reports saying Swansea want the bidding for Bony to start at 20m, it's unlikely he's a realistic target for us. Hopefully Kone will get some game time this season but still need to strengthen up top, esp with Europe. Couple of rumours doing the rounds in forums are Jordan Rhodes, Finnbogason and B Gomez. Don't know much about Finn and not sure about Rhodes but Gomez is our type of player. also heard that Moses would be interested in joining up with Martinez in the future too apparently. Thoughts?

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Who's b Gomez?

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Lukaku and finnbogasson permanently with Traore on loan has to be the dream summer. But I'd settle for batushayi instead of Lukaku.

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Fingabosson has been banging them in but the Dutch league is hit or miss its difficult to say with that league whether its genuine talent, there's options out there rom, bony, e.t.c but most clubs will be looking at the top strikers so its down to the money there clubs will want

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18 May 2014 14:54:36
Very very important time coming up in our club's history. We obviously have a great team in 9 or 10 positions and need to add to the squad by securing a great holding midfielder and great center forward. We also need to add numbers to the squad. Our under 18's success shows we have some great promising youth coming through. including Stones and Barkley. And this is the crux of the matter. As well as looking to build on what we have, we also need to make sure we do not lose our promising youngsters as we did Rooney. Imagine if we had Rooney's 20 odd goals every season. What position we would have secured each season. Well, if we have another couple of youngsters coming through, we need to make sure they are nailed down to long term contracts with us and are educated to see that the club is indeed breaking into the top couple of clubs within this country. We need a 5 or even 10 year plan which includes not only qualifying for the Champions League, but looking to win the damn competition. We had our chance in 70's and again in the 80's only for Hysel to stop us in our tracks. It should not be an impossibility, but a reality for our great club to climb back up the table season on season and restore some pride to our great and loyal support. The financial fair play seems to be pretty much ignored by City and the Sh*te, so if we can get a decent rich owner and also build gradually, then the trget should be to win things.

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Degsey, as much as I whole heartedly agree with your sentiment and love the passion, unless we are bought out by a zillionairre we will continue to lose players like Rooney because as much as it rips my heart out to admit this, selling our stars is the only way we can operate as a club in this day and age. Without it we cease to exist. It's a bad situation and hurts to admit it but it's reality

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We can blame Hysel all we like for stopping us in whatever tracks your on about, but fact fact remains the ban didn't stop other clubs from moving forward building up their infrastructure and stadiums, and commercial side of things, but we sat on our hands and did nothing. We only have ourselves to blame where we are today.

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I know what you mean Mike S. I do tend to blame the red lot for just about everything including the warts on the soles of my feet! Point remains that this is probably the most important closed season for years. With a good one we could be challenging for Champions League.with a bad one, we could be bottom half of the table.

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18 May 2014 12:46:49
Man city having a clear out obviously we would all take Gareth Barry. What about lescott out of contract or Micah Richards, Jack Rodwell and Scott Sinclair?

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18 May 2014 14:17:05
richards is decent but very injury prone, rodwell, haha and sinclair can take a penalty, woot woot

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18 May 2014 10:58:47
Anyone who thinks stones will go to Chelsea is crazy as for a swap deal for lukaku you can get Moore like him but players like stones are very rare. On another note arsenal looking at bony for me I'd prefer to see Remy at the club but I'd say we need at least 2 strikers what does everybody else think?

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No thanks on remy, one trick pony in my opinion

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18 May 2014 11:44:15
i am a fan but he is one footed, injury prone, has an attitude and his awareness is poor, bony suits us much better and doesn't have such a big ego

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I'd take lukaku and 20m for stones. On a more realistic note don't want remy (selfish mercenary) and think bony will cost more than lukaku would

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Yeh I like remy at everton too aspey efc

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18 May 2014 08:50:27
Stranded at Girona airport on Thursday afternoon (French Air Traffic Controllers strike) witnessed poor fellow blue (Chang Shirt) struggling to console his wife and child. To cheer things up I began singing 'It's a Grand Old team. ' about twenty feet away a guy in a smart blue suit turns around to face me, It was David Moyes!
As all blues would do I approached him and we spoke briefly over events of the last few weeks.
I couldn't resist asking him, 'er David any chance of sitting in the back seat of your private jet?'
He smiled and wandered off to collect his luggage, he was actually going to be flying on a Ryan Air flight back to Leeds before it was cancelled.
Espanyol's next manager?

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Well Barca haven't got a manager either Mushy, you never know!

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Neither have Tranmere Rovers?

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What av tramere ever done to you

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18 May 2014 02:47:34
Chelsea will sign john stones for 12m before the world cup, I spilt my beer all over my phone, what do the media have against us, bainesy, seamus, ross, stones, kev, jags and all our loans have been linked with other clubs, let's run a few down ay?, ross to liverpool for 38m, do I have to comment on this, in what universal galactic airspace would this happen, an evertonian moving from everton TO liveroool, baines 12m to man utd, we all know how that turned out, coleman to arsenal for 10m, this was when we were above them by two points, the best right back in the league for 10m, when glen johnson went for 18? Well everton are a small club in billions of debt and have to accept anything they get, in fact, chuck in a hobknob just to make it seem that bit more, he's an everton fan, get lost, kev to spurs for 10m, spurs? Kev? Spurs? Spurs? Friggin spurs? Bugger off, jags to newcastle, do I even have to, in fact, think of that headline for a minute, 'newcastle to sign everton skipper', it gets better, lukaku to spurs, lukaku, spurs, imagine that, spurs, lukaku, hold my baggy hand a sec because I want to scream, spurs, finish 6th and have an annoying manager every year, crap fans and boring football, they will get him, everton? No chance, small club everyone picks in because we are so desperate, in fact, each member of the board has to sell an organ just to afford a pair of shoes, that's how small everton are, deulofeu? Everton? No chance of anyone signing him full time, loan? Yes, liverpool? Oh they can sign him for 10m, oh yeah course they can, barry, arsenal? Top four? Have money? Everton have NO chance, but I will save the best for last, oh no sorry I have one more, its quite bad, stones to chelsea for 12m, wait it gets worse? Yep, stones is level headed and for 12m? Future england centre half, 12m? Oh wait its everton they have to accept, the worst, here we go, try and possibly comprehend this, about 3 months ago, I dint have a link so take it or leave it, an article (not random fans article, proper football websites) had multiple rumours from numerous 'sources' that spurs were going to land everton duo ross barkley and james mccarthy for, wait for it, 20m! OMG, actual money? Everton? Small club so we have to accept it, whatever let's calm down from the rant a moment, what do the media have against us, I had a go about tv pundits being dicks towards us, this is similar, except its tabloids, the mirror, mail, express and well all of em, have no idea about football, they claim to have inside knowledge when in reality they see us still as a desperate club no one wants to play for, we just sell sell and sell because we are a small club, the daily reflection made up that stones to chelsea rumour, the same paper which said chelsea were signing brazilian midfielder falcao (they mean the colombian striker, you know him) and everton wanted to keep french international winger lacina traore (the 6 foot 8 striker from ivory coast), you see its comments like these that make you think, 'why are they paid so much just to spout so much dung, sorry if it seems a bit like a 'feel sorry for everton, stand up for us' attitude, its really not, I just hate the lack of common sense these so called 'journalists' have, it really gets in my tits, we aren't a little puny club all the vultures take strips off, so go away and give us a break, yeah

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18 May 2014 06:41:13
Ha ha Swan that's a master piece mate, sat on the thrown at 0630 on a Sunday morning reading this, lost ability to have any lie ins years ago, funny as feck, looking at the post time i'm guessing you are slightly tipsy lol, post of the year for me to date

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I wouldn't sell Stones at all. But if we were to sell, I'd open negotiations at 20 mil. 12 isn't enough. Realistically we need to keep Stones, Coleman, McCarthy and Barkley. They will be the spine of the team for years to come.

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Best post you have done in ages Swan.

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Lukaku to tottenham could be true for the simple fact they would pay him stupid wages. His agent has already confirmed talks have happened between the two parties. Tottenham are stupid like that, they have loads of money and will pay handsomely for a players services then Levy ****s it all up by sacking his managers all the time. I hate Tottenham almost as much as I hate Newcastle their fans and chairman alike are deluded. They have a really good squad but think they should walk the league with it year in year out then sack the manager when they fall short. No harmony in that club until Levy goes. (Hope he stays)

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2 things, Spurs annoy me too, however they don't pay crazy wages, they are actually very strict on wages. Secondly who cares what papers about our players. Every window it happens, it happens because we have good players and sadly currently we can't offer the players financially or trophy wise what some teams can. Granted Newcastle and Spurs are not above us in pecking order right now but Pienaar did it.

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I suppose it depends what you class as "crazy wages" but they pay a LOT more than us and for a team with no cl football I think they pay really high wages. Just my opinion

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Official stats from 2012-13 season show Spurs paying more wages than us yes, however are percentage of wage bill to turnover was 79% Spurs 63%. Technically we are paying crazy wages not them

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Or they are turning over moremoney than us? Because they are run better

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Paddock, they do turn over more than us allowing them to spend more on wages. That's not to say its "crazy" though it's just what they can afford in comparison to us.

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Swan, its down to the club to say to the editors of these rags " enough is enough" I know they print rubbish to sell papers but they overstep the mark with us in particular.
there are never any rumours from the dark side other than rat boy would actually said he wanted to leave.

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Svenny, maybe crazy wages was the wrong choice of words. The original point was Tottenham could afford to pay him a lot more a week than we can so he may well end up there with the lure of 40 pieces of silver softening the blow of no cl football where at us he won't get a big wage and still no cl football. Some posters on here (yourself excluded) seem to think we are a massive club with this allure to players drawing them to us and they don't seem to be able to grasp that we are not as "big" as some of our fans like to think. We sold out 4 times last season. Yes FOUR times, our average attendance is about 7th in the league. Sunderland p***ed all over us in attendance and almost went down and before anyone says they have a bigger capacity, that argument would bd valid if we sold out every game and there wasn't much else we could do about it but we dont. We average 37k odd. We hold just over 40, we don't sell out against the likes of Chelsea etc so this thought that we are some giant of football that is hard done to is ridiculous, we can't fill our stadium as it is. Our best average attendance was 2002 (i think not checked for a bit) and we seem to stagnate like that so the club can only do what it can do there isn't a waiting list for season tickets and we do not have a global market as such compared to United, Liverpool etc . Some of our fans need a reality check mate. That may sound harsh but it's true. We're a big club but we're nowhere near what some of our fans would like to believe. We need to keep a level head and appreciate where we are as a club and not expect miracles. Just my opinion mind.

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18 May 2014 19:20:22
paddock, no one on here has stated we are a massive alluring club, I was just making the point tottenham have no chance of barkley, mirallas and mccarthy, lukaku won't end up at spurs, no matter how much they paid him, tbh, i'm not bothered where he goes but to sit there and say they will sign him yet everton have NO chance in hell is too funny, spurs can spend what they like, will never challenge for the league and just as well, their football is boring and their fans might be the worst in england along with fulham, arsenal, chelsea and swansea, you may have us confused with Manchester United oh sorry MANCHESTER UNITED, the capitals are vital, they think they will sign 15 world class players, coupled with none stop success, its boring, they believe they have a god given right to have everything their way yet forget vital things, they are in need of MAJOR rebuilding and will not fix it in one window, although I am crapping one when they sign reus, barkley, strootmen, robben, xavi, cavani, garay, hummels, shaw, coleman and gundogan, remember they are gods gift, anyway after all the spurs hating and man u slating let's move on, we may not be massively alluring or fill out every game (you seem to be forgetting away fans count too, swansea took 800 to goodison, etc, if they aren't selling then what do we do) but we are not a small club as a whole, we have great fans (mostly), a great manager, great team, we have actual history and we aren't plastic glory hunters (cough every top 7 team bar us), we are a family club, not some toy like spuds, chelski or AKA Ex fulham fans basically, city or pfft, newcastle, i'm not going to sit here and discuss figures and numbers I will keep it simple, we are everton and we are here to stay

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I wasn't actually referring to you either, Swan. You seem to be one of the more level headed posters and I also never said we had no chance of getting Lukaku, I think IF we have the money (thats the big if) we have a better chance than Tottenham however, as we all know he will listen to his agent and his agents like all is wearing a bandit mask and will sell his soul to the highest bidder and if it's between us and Tottenham (probably won't be anyway) then they will be able to offer better wages and we then lose the upper hand as we have nothing else to offer. We don't sell out swan, you and I both know that, yes away fans count some what but we still don't sell out but that doesn't bother me. I've followed Everton for a long time I remember my first game sitting in the old enclosure (standing but sitting on the bar) and being totally encapsulated and not looked back. My 2 sons are now both season ticket holders (both since they were 3) and I'm bringing them up to understand that it doesn't matter if we end up in the Skrill prem we are Everton and we will be Everton till we go out of this world feet first in a box and we will be season ticket holders no matter what and THAT is what being an Evertonian is avout. I've been lucky, I lived through the 80s chances are my two will never see that emulated. Not impossible but improbable. But some fans (not you) need to realise our place, banding superstars about debating if they would "take" them when there's no way they would consider us as a club but they need to understand that doesn't matter either it's Everton that matters and it'll always be that way!

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