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19 Jan 2017 23:27:36
I miss Yarmolenko lol.
20 Jan 2017 07:18:12
I think he having coffee in the Wetherspoons with riquelme and manny Fernandes.
20 Jan 2017 11:50:26
Moutinho and veloso have been seen trying to convince witsel to get out of his recent move and join them 2 at everton as well.
19 Jan 2017 21:16:19
Question for Ed002 - are football players registered as individuals for tax purposes, i. e. paid PAYE, or are they registered as limited companies?
I was listening to a debate on TalkSport earlier about the money footballers earn and it made me think about how much tax they pay. In theory the enormous money from abroad that's pumped into the PL through broadcasting rights and therefore into players' pockets could actually be a huge benefit for the economy, if they are paid PAYE?
{Ed002's Note - Actually a really good question but a generally boring answer in the modern day. Back in the fairly recent day (a) all EPL clubs have returned the Revenue's questionnaire regarding the use of trusts and the payments of expenses; (b) a number of EPL clubs were already negotiating a financial resolution; (c) at least one EPL club had already settled with the Revenue was now in discussion with them over some rather more trivial issues that will require a number of players to make settlements; (d) at least one Championship club settled a small amount; (e) at least one EPL club cancelled additional perks (free tickets to games etc.) following some discussions with the Revenue over another issue; (f) There are a number of clubs that made payments in to Trusts; (g) two EPL clubs have settled a separate matter related to the payment of money related to the image rights of a player who has represented both side; (h) that the Revenue are not simply looking at trusts, but at all payments made to and on behalf of players.
There have been instances in the past where players have been paid via offshore trusts, limited companies for services rendered to the club and in tax-exempt oil paintings and cars. These were referred to as “loopholes” and they have pretty much all gone by the board now, although I know of one now ex-EPL player who was until not too long being paid via his residency of Monaco.
The clubs all realise that there was a need to resolve these issues and to settle because the consequences of litigation are potentially very harsh. It won't be perfect, but it won't be that bad. Other counties are ahead or behind England on this but the days of yore have pretty much moved on with respect to abuse.}
20 Jan 2017 07:52:12
Sounds like a mess to me Ed. Also sounds like some were sailing pretty close to the wind. I am surprised there have not been any cases as per Spain and Messi. Perhaps our tax collectors are more reasonable? lol
19 Jan 2017 21:49:45
Thanks Ed. I know in Trent years HMRC has moved to close many loopholes such as giving employees gift vouchers as perks etc, and I guess tickets for friends and family given to players would fall into that bracket.
Similarly the ability to pay a company's named directors in dividends at solely 20% corporation tax has been almost completely abolished.
Surely the 'right of substitution' definition on a limited company would also come into effect here, because there is now way you could argue that that would be the case for a professional footballer setting themselves up as a limited company.
That said, it could explain Oumar Niasse.
{Ed002's Note - Much of the limited company, trust type approaches are behind us now.}
19 Jan 2017 22:36:38
I hadn't thought about the clubs' positions but of course they would have avoided paying statutory levies such as employer's NI, pension, death in service etc if players were registered as limited companies. They would only have paid VAT on invoice values and that could have been reclaimed if the club was VAT registered.
Frightening to think how much players and clubs would have avoided paying given that the legislative changes and loophole closures were so recent.
19 Jan 2017 20:35:20
Tell you what it's never boring supporting efc, we are never happy or some aren't. People see managers interviews and we all have different interpretations, media say we are after a player who we have never heard and when they don't sign we go mad haha
Deepay in my opinion has done nothing for Utd, and I don't think he will make us any better. He has been in prem for years and what has he done, not much yet some fans moaning we never got him, some happy we never spent 21 mill.
For the first time in years we got a manager that has no loyalties to players and has told them the truth. I am glad as this proves we are going in the right way, some players deserve a good send off some don't.
Let's all get behind the club and rk, see this season out and I think we will finish well. Rk will get his players and ship moyes and rm players out. So let's just watch and enjoy the rest of the season and see what rk does with his players and team next season
Coyb
{Ed025's Note - im all for that pb mate..
19 Jan 2017 20:52:38
My sentiments exactly Pb shame not everybody on here don't feel the same because this is going to be good, GuernseyBlue
19 Jan 2017 20:54:20
I for one am over the moon we never got him.
20 Jan 2017 08:02:22
I think we have all been through a real torrid time. Supporters have done what they could to remain positive, but under Martinez, decisions made were just so plainly wrong and the club/ team took such a big backwards step. Some fans could see it happening early on. Others were ever optomistic and carried on hoping that things were going to improve. Eventually we went into a rapid spiral that got just about everyone down.
When Moshiri came in and things really started to improve again, some fans could see it. Others (myself included) were a little more sceptical. We had seen it all before. But looking at what was happening with the club, particularly with Koeman and Walsh coming in. that has slowly opened our eyes. Some are still in the "negative" mode. but us positive ones should not be giving them a hard time. I can remember exactly how easy it is to get in the cynical mode. And how hard it is to get out of it. As true football CLUB supporters, we need to just gently show them that progress is being made.
Point out the good things. Eventually they will see that they are stuck in a time loop. I have said it before. we are a traditional FOOTBALL CLUB. We are not Everton PLC nor do we evert want to be. We have millionaire players of course. But the board do make us remember our history and do the odd thing that makes us different to all the PLC businesses that are the so called top 4. In my view there has only ever been a top 1!
20 Jan 2017 09:19:02
Top post that Degsy.
Got to say I never used to enjoy reading your posts as they tended to be repetitive, but lately i have enjoyed reading not only posts like this one but also the witty ones.
Keep it up mate.
20 Jan 2017 10:21:36
Thanks mate. Like I said. it's hard to get out of the negative mode. when you truly believe bad decisions keep getting made. But I can at last see progress. Mirallas is a classic example. He looked pretty rubbish for 2 years. but he is getting his mogo back. Baines and Coleman too. I can see some players are looking their age and need replacing, but those 3 are still young and good enough to grace most teams. They did not becomee bad players overnight. Something within the club is better. probably Koeman talking straight. Now we just need to make sure signings are the right ones. Then bring through some more youth. and with a bit of luck. to be continued.
19 Jan 2017 20:01:18
Also just wanna say good luck to Antony Evans, who has joined Morecambe on loan and all the other young lads on loan. Hopefully some of them may come back better players and make moves towards the first team.
19 Jan 2017 19:58:24
Completely messed that up.
Makes me wonder if people actually watch games. First hull sign niasse on loan and now Swansea linked with kone. If I was a manager I would not even think about buying these players. I would rather play kids or look at the lower leagues for a younger player.
19 Jan 2017 19:07:36
I think ed002 may be vinny o'connor or someone from sky with his very in depth knowledge of transfers. Maybe he is jim white himself? We may never know.
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea who these people are and I have checked my passport and I am sure they are not me - nor I them. Unless I have a fake passport?}
19 Jan 2017 19:37:00
Come on Ed surely you watch Sky sports news lol
{Ed002's Note - No, I really don't watch much television and we don't have any Sport channels at home. Sorry.}
19 Jan 2017 19:37:49
They are presenters/ reporters for sky sports. Maybe you do have a fake passport or a few of them, Jason Bourne style.
{Ed002's Note - I never watch Sky Sport and I have one passport but have been thinking about changing it for a European one in recent years. I am actually likely heading toward a need to make a change.}
19 Jan 2017 19:48:51
Sounds like ed wants to emigrate to warmer climes. At least we will have all the in depth knowledge of transfers around the Costa del sol or Algarve.
19 Jan 2017 20:03:49
Just thank our lucky stars he is not Vinny Jones, hands on nads lads hands on nads.
19 Jan 2017 20:29:59
Sky and vinny o'conner act as though they are in the know. Most is guess work and trying to put 2 and 2 together. From what i've read of ed02 he would be better advising on sky because he seems to have the knowledge. Maybe he's a hackney cab driver
19 Jan 2017 19:44:50
Your not missing much anyway Lol.
19 Jan 2017 20:35:58
ED002, my apologies, I obviously misunderstood your comment on heading toward a European Passport. I thank you for not publishing my embarrassment.
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you mean but respect your opinion. Maybe Ed025 intervened whist he was having the soles of his feet shaved by Ed007?}
19 Jan 2017 18:22:35
Hi Ed i think we could be in for a busy couple of weeks with ins and outs in this transfer window, i like R Ks comments he wants quality not quantity this man is the real deal, he says it as it really is, very refreshing after the last manager we had, GuernseyBlue
{Ed025's Note - i hope the board think the same GB, ronnie knows what he wants and if he gets it then then the future looks bright mate..
19 Jan 2017 18:52:51
Hi Ed it sure does mate this is going to be a fantastic journey all of us Blues are going on, GuernseyBlue
19 Jan 2017 19:11:05
I honestly think that is business done. RK stated he only wants quality and that is fair enough. You say two weeks I say it maybe a little late in the day now. Lookman and Schneiderlin was already prepared ground. Any 'quality' players we want now have or are being eyed up by Champions League Teams with the exception of Chelsea who have deep deep pockets. Their parent Clubs will hold out till near the end of the Window in the hope of driving up the price. Ergo it is catch 22, as we only want quality and that quality will be chased by others, can we compete with the likes of Chelsea say. That leaves the dregs for everyone else and we at least do not need to panic anymore.
{Ed002's Note - I would not be suprised to see a little something happen still at Everton. Key thing - don't buy for the sake of it.}
19 Jan 2017 19:44:28
Spot on Ed (commonsense) .
19 Jan 2017 19:44:28
Spot on Ed (commonsense) .
19 Jan 2017 19:51:33
Ed you said a little something, is that a clue? Are we in for Messi?
{Ed002's Note - I am absolutely convinced that most fans from Merseyside "have a little something" and it gets "Messi" on a regular basis Smitmeister.}
19 Jan 2017 22:11:51
Love it. On a side note Ed are we still waiting for the berahino saga to play itself out or have everton no interest at all?
{Ed002's Note - I am awarec that someone has suggested that Everton are interested in Berahino but I have no confirmation of it - and would stike me as a dumb move.}
20 Jan 2017 14:49:37
Cheers Ed
19 Jan 2017 12:09:02
Think we could look at what is happening at Spurs as an example of how long it takes to turn a team around. Their manager has developed a really good side, but it's taken him two to three seasons to do it. With a combination of good signings and youth they now have a very strong team, and they are also building a new ground.
We are probably two years behind them with the team, and hopefully the ground. But we are now moving forward. We no longer have to sell to survive, and we are producing/ bringing in some very talented youngsters.
As supporters we should trust in what the club are trying to do, and who knows by 2020 we might have a top four side, and a new stadium.
Whatever the outcome these next few years are going to be very exciting. 👍
19 Jan 2017 12:59:55
Hi Woburn am with you all the way on this one mate, they are a good example of how to do it, and I have no doubt that with R K and the backing Mr Moshiri will provide us with what we have sorely missed over the past few years, all good things come to those who wait cheers mate, GuernseyBlue
{Ed002's Note - Is Moshiri a centre back?}
19 Jan 2017 13:15:45
Like it Ed, GuernseyBlue
19 Jan 2017 13:41:19
Now Now Ed sarcasm is the lowest form of wit mate, GuernseyBlue
19 Jan 2017 14:49:06
No Ed More like a keeper, he has certainly saved this club.
19 Jan 2017 15:26:32
Hi Grumpy I like that even better cheers mate, GuernseyBlue
19 Jan 2017 15:49:18
Moshiri is a central bank
19 Jan 2017 19:13:09
Guernsey lad, you do realise, that this is a comments page and not a letter writing page. If you get my drift.
{Ed002's Note - I hope he does, because I sure as hell don't. Is this some sort of Gangster Rap thing - "your mamma writes letters"?}
19 Jan 2017 19:32:36
Sure do folks never liked Rappin, GuernseyBlue
19 Jan 2017 09:54:41
Ed,
Are you the secret footballer
{Ed002's Note - I can't tell you, it is a secret.}
19 Jan 2017 10:59:37
Do you wear a disguise?
{Ed002's Note - Nothing special, cape, swordstick etc..}
19 Jan 2017 11:51:04
Any posters have a theory who the Secret Footballer is?
19 Jan 2017 12:55:12
What secret footballer
19 Jan 2017 13:05:10
The author of the book 'The Secret Footballer'
19 Jan 2017 13:50:00
I don't know why everyone keeps asking Ed002 what he does, he has already answered the question, he is a Rodeo Clown.
{Ed002's Note - And part time gentleman adventurer.}
19 Jan 2017 16:06:04
Ed002 you left out the fact that you are probably the most knowledgeable person we know when it comes to football matters for which we are very grateful.
{Ed002's Note - You are too kind.}
19 Jan 2017 19:14:05
So secret, his team mates don't know where he is! Rather like us I suppose.
19 Jan 2017 07:42:27
I am absurdly pleased by Sunday's win. I am old enough to remember when beating City at home was a routine matter. Hope this heralds the return of those days
19 Jan 2017 11:43:57
You only have to be 12 to remember those days mate.