Everton Banter Archive January 19 2018

 

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19 Jan 2018 23:36:34
Seen on everton that they believe garbutt will play tomorrow so went on everton f. c website on first team players and garbutt is there on page 4 🤔.

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19 Jan 2018 22:11:42
Id go all out for shaw or danny rose the both of them are unsettled if we have this money in the bank put a massive bid in for them both top players lfc did it with vvd and it will pay off for them but with it being jan its a hard window to get players :/ anyone at the moement cuco is terrible he looks like a sunday league player but we are forgeting he is a RB.

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20 Jan 2018 00:13:07
Jose has came out today and said there is no better left back than this Luke Shaw, is this a snipe or a compliment, personally I can't see him going anywere in January, as for Rose, we have no chance of this transfer.

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20 Jan 2018 04:21:01
If he rates him so much why was he trying to buy rose.

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20 Jan 2018 07:06:14
We aren’t seriously going to believe what JM says are we?

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19 Jan 2018 21:35:11
Can't beieve Sam would put Martina and the fans through another miserable show tomorrow. Got to give Garbutt his chance, at least he is a natural left back.

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20 Jan 2018 01:59:48
Would balance the team a bit better, and if he doesn't convince put martina on.

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19 Jan 2018 19:09:51
Eds, now we got rid of a few, can garbutt be added to the squad list or is it the end of January squad lists are re-entered?

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{Ed002's Note - He can be added at any time Geoff if he can get on the right side of Sam A.}

20 Jan 2018 02:22:14
Garbutt may not be the long term answer, however, at least in the short term, he has to be a better option than Martina, don't want to kick a guy when he is down, but he is way below the quality required, even when played on the right, to be fair, this is koemans poor judgement, pretty sure the lad himself has givern 100%, simply not prem standard.

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19 Jan 2018 20:12:41
Anyone here think we need a LB?

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{Ed025's Note - it has been mentioned once or twice i think grumpy..

19 Jan 2018 20:17:06
The question is whether or not Garbutt (or Galloway or Robinson) can succeed Baines OR do we need to sign someone?

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{Ed025's Note - we need someone for me bobby..

19 Jan 2018 20:18:56
probably mate, what do you think lol.

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19 Jan 2018 20:34:18
Er . No Bobby the question was "anyone here think we need a LB"

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19 Jan 2018 21:26:14
Im very happy with our business this window so far. However it will be seen as a failed window if we cannot sort out the LB position. Its the major weakness of our team. I just hope the powers to be play a blinder and sort it sooner rather than later.

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{Ed025's Note - of course we would all love a LB anom, but if no one fits the bill that is available we dont want another misfit joining the ranks, dont get me wrong martina is not the answer but to be fair to the guy the protection he has received on that left side has been non-existent, siggy has no defensive quality at all and even if we had azpiiiqueta at left back we would still concede from the left mate..

19 Jan 2018 21:27:20
Still think that instead of the Vardy rumour, i wish it was Ben Chilwell, perfect replacement for Baines ( he's a clone of him ) that we were linked with.

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19 Jan 2018 23:03:57
Good left backs are at all time low.

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19 Jan 2018 20:11:15
Not got a LB yet but we have one of the best RB in the league on the way back
In training

There's only one seams coleman.

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19 Jan 2018 23:04:34
He is some loss to everton and ireland.

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20 Jan 2018 09:24:46
Be realistic. It will take Coleman a little while to get his confidence back after such a horrendous injury. The pre injury Coleman might not reappear until next season.

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19 Jan 2018 20:06:49
On the reasonable assumption that Aaron Lennon leaves the club (for Burnley? ) , that means we'll have moved four players (Barkley, Jones G., Lennon, and Mirallas) out of the 25-man aged-over-21 squad that we originally registered for the Premier League at the end of the Summer transfer window.
Including the two signings we've made (Cenk Tosun and Walcott) , that means we now have 23 players in that squad:
PIckford, Robles, Stekelenburg, Coleman, Baines, Martina, Keane, Jagielka, Williams A., Funes Mori, Gana, Schneiderlin, McCarthy, Besic, Klaasen, Sigurdsson, Walcott, Bolasie, Rooney, Cenk Tosun, Niasse, Sandro, and Byrne.
There are five other aged-over-21 players still at the club (either injured or consigned to the U23s) : Garbutt, Tarashaj, Grant, Baxter J., and Gray.
Another two aged-over-21 players are out on loan: Browning and Pennington.
Of our aged-under-21 players, six are out on loan: Charsley, Connolly, Dowell, Galloway, Robinson, and Williams J. We've transferred Liam Walsh out on a permanent deal this window.
Of the remaining aged-under-21 players, these eight have been involved with the PL squad: Holgate, Kenny, Feeney, Davies, Baningime, Vlasic, Lookman and Calvert-Lewin. Others have had a taste via the Europa League, while Onyekuru has returned from loan (because of injury) .
So, just by simple arithmetic, it's clear to see why Allardyce wants to reduce the number of "first-team squad" players at the club, especially if we need to bring in others - either now or (as appears to be the case) in the Summer transfer window.
Some tough decisions will have to be made and not every fan will be pleased to see their favourite (s) leave. It'll be ruthless, but we surely don't need all those 40-or-so players I've listed above.

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{Ed025's Note - good info there bobby...cheers..

19 Jan 2018 20:36:17
Excellent post Bobby.

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20 Jan 2018 00:14:39
Cheers Sid.

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19 Jan 2018 20:00:08
Too many false starts this season to get overly excited about the game on Saturday. Anything bordering on half decent will do at this stage.

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19 Jan 2018 18:57:15
See James Vaughan has gone to Wigan. Hope he gets a few goals for them.

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19 Jan 2018 17:48:53
So what do we think of Sams idea there will be no more in, surley LB is a big problem, and people saying we will roll WBA over tomoz, famous last words, we may well, but, they ain't a top 4 club, mark my words blue boys lol COYB.

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{Ed025's Note - i think..nay hope.. that sam is saying we wont get anyone else in as a ruse to other clubs GH..

19 Jan 2018 18:44:40
Give Garbutt a go, at least he is a natural left back.

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19 Jan 2018 18:41:14
Hope so Ed, we def lacking in defence.

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{Ed025's Note - we are mate..

19 Jan 2018 18:41:15
The ruse will be up the moment he asks if they've got a left back for sale.

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19 Jan 2018 17:47:02
Ed 25 bit gutted lennon is going but can see why vlasic lookman will be back up to theo and yannick. Hope lennon does well at Burnley he deserves it.

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{Ed025's Note - at this stage of his career aaron needs playing time bretto, its obvious he wont get that with us so good luck to the guy..

19 Jan 2018 18:10:11
I agree ed hopefully can bring lb in and been good window.

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19 Jan 2018 19:18:28
Hope we don't just give him away, still has a few good years left in him yet, players at any level in the prem come with a price tag.

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19 Jan 2018 17:43:58
It appears Lennon is off to Burnley. Good luck Aaron, you always gave 100% and played for the team. I’m glad he overcame his personal issues that some of us may face as well.

With Mirallas and now Lennon leaving, who else would you expect to leave in the window. I would personally try to move Besic, Schneiderlin, and Niasse perminantly and loan Sandro, Klassen, and one of either Lookman or Vlasic.

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{Ed025's Note - not a bad shout that denver..

19 Jan 2018 19:19:46
I'd get rid of snids only if we bring in Nzonzie.

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20 Jan 2018 00:16:27
I'd get rid of Schneids for me Nan's bus pass at least with that your guaranteed to travel forward.

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19 Jan 2018 17:43:23
Good luck to Lennon if his move to Burnley goes ahead.

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19 Jan 2018 18:27:00
Besic, Niasse and Schneiderlin is a good shout leave Klassen, Sandro and Vlasic until were safe and then get them in the squad at least.

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19 Jan 2018 18:52:13
I am so pleased for the lad and its the biggest confidence builder he will get.

It's also brilliant to see how we are changing as a society when we realise that just because you have a mental health issue that you are not to be treated with kids gloves or avoided. You are still the same person.

I wish him the best of luck with the move and in life.

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20 Jan 2018 00:18:31
I will always respect Aaron Lennon for facing what he did and coming out the other side, the stigma with mental health has changed and from 1st hand I know this and wish Aaron all the best with the next step in his career.

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19 Jan 2018 17:36:14
Good luck to Aaron Lennon if he does complete his move to Burnley. Good pro and good to see him back after his issues.

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{Ed025's Note - i second that geoff..

19 Jan 2018 15:48:29
Re Walcott: Name successful signings from a London club. Score double points if an actual Londoner (although will accept southerners) . ResignIng Pienaar doesn't count. Lukaku does technically although it might be argued that in reality he came from WBA.

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{Ed025's Note - kevin campbell...as cockney as jellied eels..

19 Jan 2018 16:01:40
Diamond?

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19 Jan 2018 16:55:30
Tim Cahill does South Australia count?

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19 Jan 2018 17:02:17
Do you class lennon and samways assuccessful?

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19 Jan 2018 17:02:32
Tony cottee.

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19 Jan 2018 17:53:30
Andy Johnson.

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19 Jan 2018 18:16:45
Tony Cottee - not at any price. For the money paid a major disappointment.
Lennon - suppose he has achieved what we were entitled to expect.
Samways - dear God no

Little pattern emerging. We sign guys tailing off.
Major success, Cahill transfer represented a major opportunity for him and not being English was not infected by "London syndrome"

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{Ed025's Note -another little pattern emerging..you like moaning glen.. :)

19 Jan 2018 18:44:08
I like facts. Those expecting Walcott to transform our fortunes are asking the lad to buck the trend of previous dealings. All I want is a bit of realism.

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19 Jan 2018 20:11:28
Andy King - although he transferred from Luton.

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19 Jan 2018 20:14:22
Any really old Evertonians might have heard of (if not watched) Wally Fielding (an Edmonton lad) play for Everton in the 1950s.

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19 Jan 2018 20:40:40
I have Bobby but I think anything prior to the abolition of the maximum wage isn't going to cast too much light on current dealings.

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19 Jan 2018 23:01:52
So cos others have failed he will too sell him now quick before he plays we will get 15 mill for him from Southampton he's there level we shouldn't buy Londoners there terrible well except oh I don't no Harry Kane Frank lampard Ian Wright ox-chamberlins not doing too bad coming up north is He? Get a grip mate and give the lad a chance.

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19 Jan 2018 23:02:21
Martin keown wasn't bad.

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20 Jan 2018 00:20:34
GlennK you need a woman or an Xbox and your life will be so much better, you are so negative the minus sign ****ed you off.

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19 Jan 2018 12:05:29
The lastest interview with S. A he says he thinks he's done with buying players this window. Need to shorten the player list down. Get rid of players. Surely to goodness we are not going into second half of season with Coco Martina as back up full back. Baines is on his way back to the team and so is Coleman. But cricky. Coco as back up to baines.

We really need new left footed defender.

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{Ed025's Note - dont believe everything sam says rik, we are looking for a left sided defender mate, i cant say we will definitely get one in this window but the club is trying..

19 Jan 2018 12:57:00
Bit strange though Ed. we are now talking about having too large a squad. In the past we said we had too small a squad to cover all the competitions. I guess what Sam means is that we don't have the required quality or more likely too many #10's.

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{Ed025's Note - we need to ship a few out mike thats obvious, i expect i few to be loaned at the end of the window mate..

19 Jan 2018 11:19:30
No one available via loan in the LB area Ed, if first choices are t available ange doesn't fancy any of our own. surely there has to be someone decent in the top 6 not gettig a chance or abroad.

Loan until the end of the season, no harm done. I really think we need a left back with a left foot for balance. Most starting line ups for us there days does not include a left footed player.

Even going back to Barry in midfield he had a left foot I think we need a couple in our squad. I know we have baines when fit.

But just my 2pence opinion. I think a few lefties will bring a lot more balance to the squad.

Everton the gear.

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{Ed025's Note - a left back would be my priority jimbob, a loan is the best option as you say but its getting the clubs to let them go mate..

19 Jan 2018 11:36:55
Fair point Ed, but I see it that we are no threat to the top 6. So why not release a ping hungry left back wanting to show what he can do in the premier league. Surely chelsea have one there haha. They have abou 173683 players.

But only if the loan market was that easy Ed.

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Everton did previously ask about the loan of a player from Chelsea but the player went eslewhere. The visit was not entirely wasted as it led to discussions about Tosun - I have explained all of this before.}

19 Jan 2018 09:41:31
big sam in his presser saying he doesn't think there will be any more coming in, surely got to be the old managers bluff there as we have a big glaring hole at left back!

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19 Jan 2018 09:50:28
Think your right no point buying attacking players even tho much needed if conceding goals from the left back position every game! Can't bear to watch us sometimes knowing Martina is playing!

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{Ed025's Note - im sure if a LB of worth is available lee then we will go for him mate..

19 Jan 2018 10:11:26
hasn't Garbutt been removed from the u23s maybe he will get a chance on Sat.

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19 Jan 2018 10:15:23
He’s looking at Garbutt in training and might bring Galloway back from loan to see if they can do a job at left back. If they aren’t up to it, then I’d expect someone else to be transferred in.
We’ve only 2 matches until the end of the transfer window (in 12 days) , so there’s time between those matches (on the 20th and 31st) to get this sorted.
Besides, we need to move players out. My understanding is that’s not because we have to sell before we can buy again, but rather that we need to keep the wage bill in line with financial regulations. We also need to reduce the squad size, as we clearly don’t need all those players.
I expect a major shakeup of the squad in the Summer and some more big spending - only this time with better regard to what we really need and the balance within the squad.

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19 Jan 2018 10:38:52
I agree with ed025 if a decent LB does become a available then we may go for him but it may be that our 1st choice is not currently available and we are not going to buy a second string player just to fill in for half a season. It looks like its not transfer fee related but more to do with squad size registration and keeping in line with FFP which can only be a prudent thing to do in the long term.

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{Ed025's Note - i think thats right sa, some fans think throwing money at it is the solution whereas its part of the problem mate..

19 Jan 2018 10:56:58
I have just checked on the official premiership site to see if Garbutt has been registered and his name isn't on there so it looks like we will have to put up with Martina unless we shift a few and bring a LB in.

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19 Jan 2018 11:25:32
Looks like there is not enough space for Garbutt so unless someone leaves he may not get a place anyway. Just shows RK didn't rate him.

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Daily News Round Up 19th January 2018

19 Jan 2018 05:03:27
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Daily News Round Up 19th January 2018

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