Everton Banter Archive July 19 2012

19 Jul 2012 22:07:51
why are we so slow at signing a player. we lost pranjic cos we were slow, this pienaar move is taking forever and there must be something really wrong if hoilett is choosing QPR over us. oh yeah were spending all our time on pienaar. its so frustrating

We didn't lose pranjic at all we were never in for him in the first place. The same goes with Hoilett to so get your facts right.

Hoillett will be playing against blackburn next season when qpr go down chance of cl with gladbach or just a greedy little b*****d with little all else to show except a big fat bank account good ridence

Hoillett is off to QPR according to latest info. AO

Hoillett has/will go to the highest bidder!

Money grabber.

EverTheOptimistic

19 Jul 2012 21:51:46
Peanuts will sign next week as will crouch just waitin for tv rights money victor will go as will yobo

19 Jul 2012 21:34:41
Barkley winner I predicted it on this website earlier.

Nostrawigus

19 Jul 2012 21:29:44
hoilett to sign for qpr
source skysportsnews
another missed opportunity {Ed025's Note - if he was that good..why would he sign for QPR?

Seriously what has hoilet done abit of pace on all accounts dosent track back ,would u seriously break r wage bill is he better than most of r team not a chance pienaar is better n will sign n Barkley will b ten times the player

19 Jul 2012 20:19:32
i hope efc get it fixed for the 2nd half! and give me my money back adn the next game for free ! i payed nearly £20 quid !

19 Jul 2012 20:04:59
Looks like the club website is totally down now - started off by not showing the match - yes i have subscribed!

Came on at 20:10

19 Jul 2012 19:35:35
really hope crouch doesnt join much rather play 4-5-1 with naismith behind jelavic pienarr WILL sign soon so stop with the lies about him moving elsewhere. hopefully ross barkley will go on loan to get some experience as it will benefit him highly

I agree with Barkley going out on loan not sure he's going to get near the team ahead of Fellaini, Gibbo an Rodwell

Barkley and velios should get a lot more game time next season, they can both be important players for us

Everton Dave

19 Jul 2012 19:29:08
just seen on ssn that hoilett gone qpr eithier way he coming from a championship team and going to a team that will be there next season i reckon money has swayed this move.so much much for the rumours of eden hazard brother coming to us seems chelsea have got his signiture, come on moyes pull a belter out and stun us all :-] coyb aj

19 Jul 2012 19:19:04
Got to lol, some moaning about the cub being skint and then asking hoW you can get the game tonight Without paying and taking money out of the cub

Jp

Ive paid and i still cant get watching it maybe i should have tried to find a link myself wished i had

Jp get a grip lad,your blaming the fans for the club being skint? Pathetic.

19 Jul 2012 19:16:36
why do you all say,
we have to wait for the sale of this person, sale of that one,
can't afford wages so we will wait until end of Aug,
NOT ONE PERSON NO'S HOW MUCH WE HAVE OR WHO IS GOING TO BE SOLD (FACT) so until some thing happens just support the team and stop MOANING sounds like a old folks home.
we can say what we have heard BUT NO ONE KNOWS.
Last week you where all praising BK for getting Naismith, now your all are slagging him off, YOU MAKE ME SAD TO SAY I'M A BLUE.
MOAN MOAN MOAN SLAG SLAG SLAG, just support our great club and watch the big clubs fail when the fair play rules kick in....
and watch us raise to the top with our great youth system.
Rant over, just fed up of reading the same crap

y0rksh1re_blue {Ed025's Note - good post that yorkie..

Spot on yorkie the moaning is getting a bit tedious now, and to all those people who want bk to sell and the new owners to spend millions on greedy players like man city chelsea spurs just think how much are their season tickets and game tickets? the average everton fan will be priced out of games is this what we all want really?....grbefc

19 Jul 2012 19:08:22
Website to watch the match anyone?

19 Jul 2012 18:56:02
Tonights team:
Howard
Hibbert
Distin
Duffy
Neville
Coleman
Junior
Rodwell
Osman
Anichebe
McAleny

COYB
Joe EFC

Great to see rodwell and junior starting again, it will be good to see how they do

Everton Dave

19 Jul 2012 18:28:02
Anybody got a link for tonights game?

Evertonpreseason.co.cc

ToffeeMike

COYB, lets put in another good display

Everton Dave

19 Jul 2012 17:31:58
is anyone fed up with waiting for the peanut deal to be done bill if what i hear is true and that its over 10grand a week just do it get it doe because the lads worth 25points a season

£10k a week are you joking more like £50k {Ed025's Note - he means the difference between £40+ £50k..

He can't be that desperate to sign then can he ? If he doesn't want to sign , then let him enjoy playing for Spurs reserves.

Should get an idea about pienaar from moyes tonite

19 Jul 2012 16:34:14
Pienaar, Pienaar and more Pieneer and don't forget Pienaar, i like the fella and hope he signs but dose every other post have to be about him?

Bluenose

19 Jul 2012 16:04:02
Interesting that rodgers seemingly keen to move Caroll on....probably believes the days of the big centre forward and the long ball are gone. I think Arteta said something similar about 5 years ago. I wouldnt want Everton to play a complete Barcelona style, because it becomes boring to watch after a while. But football is evolving and most of us who have watched the long hit and hope punt up the field at Goodison when we played rout 1 to Big Dunc....are happy to see more finesse and creativity. Everton fans have always appreciated ball players, be it McKenzie or Arteta. Whoever starts for Everton in late August, I would love to see enterprise and style. Of course we want to win, but when you are freezing cold in the top of the stands, one moment of magic lights up everything and hopefully Moyse will have a squad that can allow him to play strong defence, enterprising midfield, and real flair in the last third of the pitch.....just my opinion. {Ed025's Note - mine too..

We was like Brazil in the last game against Newcastle.

19 Jul 2012 15:42:18
Think we need a new page to go with rumours and banter, EVERTON MOANS. Perhaps then I could read people's stories, team selections etc without the same old negative gripes. I for one think we are moving forward and will believe Moyes has an interest in a particular player when he says it, not the player or the popular press who have their own agendas and are not interested in the club.

Popeye {Ed025's Note - spot on popeye mate..

19 Jul 2012 15:32:23
how true is the crouch rumour? not sure what to make of it although thought with cahill unable to head anymore crouch could do a job

19 Jul 2012 12:06:35
Ed is there any update on the apparent Crouch deal? {Ed025's Note - just got home mate , so i have heard nothing yet..

19 Jul 2012 15:30:25
Does anyone know jelavics number for this season as they make you sign that you can't get your money back if he changes his number when the kit has gone on general sale today what's all that about sounds very fishy to me probly change it to number 9 next week when we all bought it got to get the money for Steve p somewhere also surprised to hear my mate say today that he is not renewing his season ticket until kenwrights gone he's had one for the last 20 years or more Goes home and most away games sad to hear that I think even the most loyal fans are getting fed up with bill and the boardroom

Jellyman is going to be number 7 again
seen it on os on the tweeter bit

toffeeblue

19 Jul 2012 14:11:04
When the previous poster says "so are we all" pissed off with Kenwright....who does he mean exactly? You don't speak for me and probably not for thousands of other Blues Fans either. Its because of people just like you that we might be in danger of becoming the next Rangers or Portsmouth or Forest or Leeds United or Blackburn....should I say more? Kenwright really does have this club at heart even though things he says and does or doesn't do don't impress all of us all the time. If we spend what we haven't got then you will be watching Conference League Football within a few seasons. We are all fed up watching all the other clubs being bought by "so-called" millionaires,but our Club needs a major investament which means BIG money but above all we need trustworthy,knowledgeable new owners,not just a few businessman who might want to seel up after a few years. We love Everton FC all of us do and we are all frustrated....but none more so than Bill Kenwright.

Good post mate,well said.I'm with you on that 1,shame you left no name though.

Westy

Its people like you who are satisfied at the constant drain in resources who allow BK to continue. If you believe that DM could not achieve even more with some kind of modest investment then you are deluded. To be sitting round waiting for cash from Yobo and or Anichebe is just a desperate position for a club like ours. You badly need to open your eyse!

Moyes will soon get fed up and move to a club that will be able to win trophies in the next 10 years. He won't put up with this for much longer surely.

19 Jul 2012 12:05:43
Only 3 weeks ago everyone was talking about how they're excited and looking forward to the start of the season and now once again people are whinging and calling for bk and moyse's head! Fact is the transfer window opened 3 weeks ago, everyone has been busy with euros and holidays! Just wait and see what happens before you start planning protests.
Also so many people making out its the end of the world if pienaar doesn't come, don't get me wrong I think the lad did a great job for us at the end of last season but no player is bigger than the club and if he doesn't come we will survive and Everton will be around long after Pienaar retires! Everybody just cheer up and have some faith!
Rant over

SydneyBlue

Totally agree SydneyBlue people need to calm down a bit,we have signed a good player in Naismith so lets just wait and see what happens COYB. Terry blue

Spot on Syd, people chill, everything will be ok, it always is in the end

Degsybluenose

Keeping it posititive Syd' it's the only way

COYB

Toffee ace

Spot on Syd, love him to come and still think he will but I trust Moyes to find an alternative if it doesn't come off.

Bluestu1878

We haven't even signed Naismith yet though.

Yes we have! ffs we have signed naismith!

Even with just naismith and pineaar i think we could challenge for top 6

Everton Dave

I agree Syd, the ox is slow but the earth is turning. This statement means patience. We will reap our rewards in the end.

Aussie Toffee

"We haven't even signed Naismith yet though."

OMFG are you mad FFS He's ours.............aaaaaaarrrrggghhh

EFCwhitesocks

Well we have signed naismith its just that the sfa haven't given him clearance yet

If we have to pay for Naismith, he won't be coming. {Ed025's Note - sigh..

I think Ed 025 should get paid for dealing with 'deal not done for Naismith' posts.
Gatepost, Ed?

EFCwhitesocks {Ed025's Note - some people will just moan for moanings sake whitey..

19 Jul 2012 11:16:18
what about this,
what ever money we had for Pienaar, and just forget about him, and use to get hoilett or holtby / phillips,
then we could move garbutt to left back, and use baines on the left wing, he's great at going forward and even better at getting back so he cold help out alot at left back, plus moyes always uses a 5 man strong mid so it would be hard for them to break the left back down as baines can help out more and with nassiy pushing out wide.
just a thought as it's not all doom and gloom

y0rksh1re_blue

Very interesting idea might be worth a try or you could go with the big three at the back and use baines as a wing back......grbefc

19 Jul 2012 10:07:33
I wouldn't read too much into Pienaar playing last night. spurs are probably just trying to get us to move more quickly and by playing him it is maybe trying to tell us if we don't hurry then they will keep parading him for other clubs. trying to rush us into a better deal for them

Cez

19 Jul 2012 09:20:28
What do people expect from pienaar? He is still a spurs player an still has to play when required. He is not the type of player to refuse to play... An if he is I wouldnt want him. Also he is going to smile in his pictures? Wat else is he going to do. And as for his so called wage demands, personally I believe that he deserves to be up there with the clubs top earners and should have been given this before he left. Negotiating does not make him cheeky or mean that he doesn't want to come imo. I sll expect to see him lining up against United.

Cropper

19 Jul 2012 09:04:11
The reason we can't sign Peanuts is because of Yobo. Moyes was given 10mill to play with about 4.5 of that went on Naismiths 4 year deal, he saved the rest for the Pienar transfer fee hoping that with Yobo, Mucha off the wage bill we would cover his wages that way. Sad fact is that we can't sell Yobo so we can't buy Peanuts and I would imagine the deal is now off if he is involved with their ore season games.

Svenny

I think we need to relax and be patient with Peanuts. Berbatov came out and said he wants to leave united, ferguson said he will probably leave united and yet he flew to asia with them and started last night!
Agree about the Yobo thing, although we did get rid of 6/7 players end of season who whould have has about £200K a week between them...

Sorry forgot to sign off MAC

We got naismith for free mate.

Westy

Yobo is apparently gone, NSNO got the information from a Nigerian online site. Things may progress now on the Pienaar front.

Mike aintree

Svenny you say that we can't buy pienaar because of naismiths 4 year deal, his wages will not be paid in advance therefore will have no impact on any money moyes has to spend. and if you think that 4.5m was the signing on fee it would have been cheaper to buy him from rangers.....grbefc

19 Jul 2012 07:29:33
Dithering Dave at it again got no money to buy anyone cos BK doesn't want to let go of the club . We have only been linked with free options . So blues b patient and wait till last day of window as per usual if he brought anyone in now wages have to be paid . Shrewd blues at it again nothing changes

Great news the , Peanuts on a free??

EFCwhitesocks

Even no cash to buy player Moyes still cannot sign free player coz they think BK. no cash to pay their wage.

Won't b down 2 moyes down to kenwright absolute joke , if he can't c how important the pienaar deal is not only what he gives to the team ,but if it falls thru ,what will say to current players ie Baines Felliani about r ambition ,it's not as if it's a major financial deal it's under 5 million 4 a player we know or know us a no brainier

Nice way to be positive. Sorry to be insulting but would acallu prefer it if you didn't support everton. Also of ur gonna be this negative atleast be brave enough to leave ya name.
Cropper

Linked only with free options? Cardozo is free? Pienaar is free? Phillips? Henriksen? N'Doye? etc.

Get a grip mate,we all know the situation,piennar or no piennar,lets get behind them,moyes wil sort sumthin out,dnt worry,true blue,efc 4 life

19 Jul 2012 07:11:03
If these rumours about Pienaar regarding him holding out for more cash are true then as far as I'm concerned let him rot as third choice at spurs! If he hasn't realised that it's not all about the money from recent experiences then he's not going to and quite frankly doesn't deserve play for our great team!

Bluestu1878

Its not that we are taking forever its the fact we dont have any money.

We got 400k for Silva, thats it, supposed to have 3.5 million for Yobo plus wages.

Also Anichebi is off to Hull on loan for the season, this means a good opportunity for Vellios

PeterB

Everton have not put a bid in for
Him because we don't have any
Money a bid as to be agreed first
kenwrights to blame not
Peanuts

Pienaar deserves a good contract evertonions hav gt to stop goin about greed n loyalty . He never left 4 greed he left because Everton contract offer wasnt enough if u to b a top 6 side u need good players who will want good wages end of story every other team does it

It's not Pienaar's fault, we just don't have the money yet.

19 Jul 2012 00:41:35
I am under the impression now that if Piennar is not coming back.......I think its because he has been told that Baines is off to United ! The reason he was signing was to renew his partnership down the left flank with Baines,can't see him coming back here if Baines is moving.

Pienaar was quality without Baines at the end of last season and Baines was quality without Pienaar after he left,the Pienaar deal does not hinge on whether Baines moves.

19 Jul 2012 00:00:02
I'm pretty sure Pienaar signed for us in January after being on the Bench for Tottenham that very night? Just because he played tonight in a friendly could mean nothing, so chill.

Dandan217

I remember when Lescott did the dash, he played for us against Arsenal and we got hammered that night, then he was gone not shortly after that. I think pienaar will still come. Then if not lets smash spurs home and away.