Everton Banter Archive November 19 2012

19 Nov 2012 21:16:50
Now then.

Just one question, why do footballers lose form?
Is it just an issue with confidence?

Pienaar and Jelly in recent games have been poor but Coleman has not lost form he's just rubbish.

Nostrawigus

Has pienaar been playin the last 7 games? Thought he ws injured! Haven't seen him

He hasn't looked the same player since he lost the braids, in every sense

In recent games Pienaar has played a lot more inside than previously when he operated wide.
This makes it difficult for Baines to link up down the left and create the dangerous crosses which created no end of chances early season.
Whether this roving role for Steven is tactical change by the coaching or not, it results in the attack losing width and significantly reduces the attacking options down the left.
Fancy Smith

I would've thought it was tactical as teams were getting wise to our threat down the left and I think it's safe to assume that it isn't as effective as it once was. Progress was being made with the same down the right until Mirallas picked up the knock, although Coleman isn't in the same league as Baines offensively or defensively. I believe Moyes was trying to replicate what we had down the left on the right so as to make us less predictable, but it seems to have back-fired massively, partly because Mirallas got injured and partly because Coleman is a complete and utter clown.

OH no Pienaars footballing powers were in his hair. {Ed025's Note - a bit like samson then..

19 Nov 2012 19:49:33
team vs Norwich

GK. HOWARD

RB. HIBBERT
CB. JAGIELKA
CB. DISTIN
LB. BAINES

RM. NAISMITH
CM. OSMAN
CM. HITZLSPERGER
LM. PIENAAR

CAM. BARKLEY

ST. JELAVIC

don't hink gibson will start with the games we have coming up dont think we can risk him on the weekend

I'm not sure Barkley will start after only coming back this week, maybe bench
BlueClarkey

19 Nov 2012 11:52:06
I have said all along that coleman is not a defender i dont rate the lad. he couldn't cut it at blackpool. but for some reason moyes cant see it. yes we have had a solid start but we keep dropping points against the lower sides as usual.

andy

He couldn't cut it at Blackpool? Did you see any of him during his loan, was a big reason for there playoff final run, Holloway rated him very highly

He makes mistakes, but he's only going to stop doing that with experience, he's never going to be great defensively but he makes our right hand side 10x better attacking wise on his day
Toffeepidge

Why not have 3 centre backs and use Coleman and Baines as wing backs

Play Distan left back and Baines right back for a game or 2.

That would never work. And what about Hibbo? Has he disappeared off the face of the earth?

Keep Bainesy at LB, with his partnership with Peanuts, Distin at CB and Coleman or Hibbo at RB.

You can't have it both ways. Either Coleman or Hibbo at RB. Hibbert is better defensively and not so good going forward, whilst Coleman is the opposite: better going forward but not as good defensively.

Keith EFC.

Hibbert is an excellent crosser of the ball - he doesn't need to beat his man - miles better than Coleman who will rarely play again once hibbo n gibbo back

19 Nov 2012 11:21:12
I think i have just about managed to get my blood pressure down to an acceptable level after Saturday's result. I am the same as most football fans, when we lose i always try and point the finger and blame somebody for the result, whether it be the ref, the lino, manager or a certain player.

Two major factors cost us the 3 points on saturday. Firstly our inability to take our chances. This has been the same in the majority of our games this season. I can't recall the last time we as a team created so many chances in a season. Which is fantastic, but we aren't putting enough way. Jelavic isn't playing particular well, but I am sure he will come good again.

The second major concern is the goals we are giving away. The two goals at the weekend were surprise surprise down to Coleman. I am not sure why when the free kick came in for the first goal, he half ducked down and was looking the other way. The penalty was again naive defending. I feel for the bloke in a way because he clearly isn't a defender of premiership quality. The manager picks him and he is hardly going to turn around and go sorry i am toilet I don't want to play.

I would play either Johnny or Jags at right back and bring Distin in the middle for the Norwich game until Hibbo is back. I cant watch Coleman's gormless attempt at defending anymore. Saturday should be tougher than expected as Norwich will be boosted by their result against Manc United. My team for the weekend assuming Gibbo is available.

Howard

Heitinga Jagielka Distin Baines

Hitzl Gibson

Naismith Osman Pienaar

Jelavic


COYB Alastair

I agree Al, it seems to be all the Prem teams are leaking goals this season and not just us mate, we defo need Hibbo back asp cos he is a cracking defender. I think Jelly will come good soon mate.

Degsy

Ive said all along jags started right back we need him there