Everton Banter Archive December 01 2019

 

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01 Dec 2019 21:50:18
Goes The post is it Kenwright with his 5 percent exerting influence or is it Moshrie with his 79 percent. My stance has always been Kenwrights interference, interlaced with Moshri's reliance on an advisor, who on judged results knows F all about football.

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01 Dec 2019 21:42:43
VAR is a total mess in the game, flag goes up for offside, players stop when they see it except their player who puts the ball away.
Reviewed and goal given. So are players now expected to play on even when a flag is raised. It's killing the game for me lately.

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01 Dec 2019 21:51:27
Do you play football?

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01 Dec 2019 21:56:49
Far as I know and when I played, never stopped for a flag.

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01 Dec 2019 22:01:11
Did/ do you play mate?

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01 Dec 2019 22:32:19
Doesn't matter whether he plays or not, sometimes its just instinctive that you react to something you see.

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01 Dec 2019 23:17:21
Bobslad. Mate that is crap.

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01 Dec 2019 23:30:09
If you say so.

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01 Dec 2019 22:32:16
What do you mean did/ do?

I’m commenting on what the players ‘did’ and venting anger from the game.

So what’s me did/ do got to do with anything?

They are pros on hundreds of thousands a year, they stopped, ask them the question of did/ do they play?

Maybe choice of words could of been better, but what a stupid response from you.

So VAR good for you yes?

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01 Dec 2019 23:46:57
Thanks bobslad.

Was only pointing out what the players did, but as always here someone only has confrontational replies.

Think bill needs to watch the goal again and then message the players and advise them about his playing days.

In fact I’m now starting the billscrocodiletears for manager campaign now,

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02 Dec 2019 06:27:45
I think the point being made is you play to be whistle that’s how I was always taught as that comes from the referee who often ignore their linesmen.

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02 Dec 2019 07:45:12
If the players stop when the flag goes up, that’s a coaching issue. As frustrating as it is, we can’t complain about VAR as it served us well in the first half.

Sometimes when a player cuts through in the dying seconds you just have to bring him down and suffer the consequences to prevent a goal. It might be wrong, but that’s what the winners would do.

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01 Dec 2019 19:40:42
It may have been a “better” performance today, but it was still nowhere near good enough and should not be a performance that keeps him in a job. Simply not good enough today or in the 13 games previous - that’s why we are 2 points off the relegation spots. TWO POINTS! Like it or not, we are in a relegation scrap and the club should be ashamed of themselves for letting things get this bad. He should have gone weeks ago and something done to arrest this slide.

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01 Dec 2019 20:44:28
I didn’t even see a better performance today. Our defenders are continually caught out of position, the midfielders are non existent and the striker gets no service at all. How many times did Digne and Davies lose possession today? Digne is caught out of position many times every game I watch him. Keane is not a good centre half, Mina has his moments and Holgate is still learning. Sidibe was ok today but useless last week. I won’t comment on the midfielders because I think when Gomes, Gbamin and Delph are fit they’ll play.

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{Ed025's Note - it was a miles better performance this week joe, we had intensity and fight and i dont know how you can compare it with last week mate (except for the outcome of course)..

01 Dec 2019 22:43:14
Also people banging on about our midfield. We basically have 1 fit midfielder and a partially fit Schneiderlin.

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01 Dec 2019 21:20:24
Ed we were second best all over the pitch again. I’m sure Leicester had at least twice as much possession as us. Intensity and fight should be a given for professional footballers. Unfortunately intensity and fight doesn’t win games or trophies as we know for far too long. I know I’m probably being harsh on some players performances today but we got same result as last week and it’s a team game. So for me another poor performance and result to go with it.

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{Ed025's Note - away to the second best team in the league was always going to be difficult joe, i actually thought we played well for most of it but i agree that its too little too late, i have to disagree that intensity and fight wont win you games though mate, burnley have been doing it for years..

01 Dec 2019 21:22:39
Ed25, decision making yet again. A team that relies on front foot with the pressure still on suddenly relieved IWOBI off Schneid the crab on. One example. Question: Are the ditherers still dithering tomoz.

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{Ed025's Note - probably mate..

01 Dec 2019 21:31:30
I agree about the midfield being a less than makeshift one. You have to ask the question though - why are we suffering so many injuries in training?

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02 Dec 2019 12:01:20
I watched the game again ed now I’m not as angry haha. You’re right there was more effort and intensity in our play but we were still second best for the majority of the game. I’m struggling to see how we can get out of this rut, we need 2 central midfielders and a striker to arrive or find form asap just to fight our way out the relegation scrap.

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{Ed025's Note - things will get worse over the next few weeks im afraid joe, we will be i the bottom 3 by christmas i expect but im confident we will get ourselves out of the mire come the new year mate..

02 Dec 2019 15:59:28
That’s what is concerning me as I can’t see a way to stop the free fall. I do think we’ll avoid relegation but just not sure how. We always seem to find a bit of form to push up towards top half of table and hopefully we do it sooner rather than later. I also think Silva is here for awhile yet (provided we don’t get stuffed in next 2-3 games) . If he was getting sacked it would’ve happened after Norwich game. So we may just get behind him and the team.

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01 Dec 2019 19:08:27
Today as much as there looked like there was a bit more fight we were poor and our defensive shape once Leicester attacked us with pace was woeful, and I really fear for us on Wednesday against a side top of the league who can hurt you with pace.

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01 Dec 2019 19:02:22
I don't think Jamie carragher should be aloud to commentate on Everton games either his passion when the other team scores is absolutely disgusting
He has little digs all through the game and when we concede he's beside himself.
Hate the man with a passion!

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01 Dec 2019 19:14:20
The only job he should have is sitting on Bob carolgees hand.

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01 Dec 2019 19:20:08
He shouldn’t be on Sky full stop. Sky have sacked pundits for less than he did.

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01 Dec 2019 20:01:12
He's a disgrace. There were times when he actually complimented the team today when 1-0 up. Just couldn't help himself . VAR is spoiling the game. Why didn't Chilcheat not get booked for diving?
Once again the club is a laughing stock. Were in a relegation fight now. Sorry Bill, you need to go and let Moshiri get on with the job and get rid of Silva the fraud.
Can't understand what all the fuss is about. he won sweet fa.
Every club he was at in the prem failed after good starts. We have no leaders on the pitch and none on the bench. The club needs a good clearing and a new regime that is going to make the team fight until they drop.

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01 Dec 2019 20:09:05
Forget Carragher it's his job. Concentrate on ourselves.

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01 Dec 2019 20:50:46
Shame you weren’t so vocal when Gary Lineker and Ferdinand were seen ( whilst commenting on the match ) jumping up and down celebrating when Barcelona put a third past liverpool in the away leg of the champions league last season.

Hypocrisy is just too kind a judgment.

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{Ed025's Note - to be fair drogie i think their euphoria was about the messi free kick rather than anything else mate, but i cant stand any of them..

01 Dec 2019 21:24:21
Football Drogie. I have lots of stories.

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01 Dec 2019 21:26:19
Cant remember Lineker and Ferdinand supporting Liverpool growing up and coming from the city.

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01 Dec 2019 21:36:12
Why would I care about what a pundit says about a game between Liverpool and Barcelona. And I also can’t remember either of those doing anything remotely as disgusting as what Carragher did.

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01 Dec 2019 23:21:27
Drigie talking to me.

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01 Dec 2019 21:42:30
25 mate, you know I respect your views mate but euphoria Messi’s free kick? If you’d seen the footage you’d probably eat your words mate, with Rio being one of them down the end of the east lancs and Lineker, we know he has a dislike for the reds.

Like one says - it’s football, they were soon rooted to the studio chairs when Origi netted the 4th enabling us to clinch number 6.

I’m 48, with lots of stories 😜

See you at the Derby.

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{Ed025's Note - i will take your word for it drogie, i have no sense of loyalty to any of them mate and tend to disagree with them all most of the time..

01 Dec 2019 19:00:41
Silva's face at the final whistle. think he knows he is gone.

Sad end to a spirited performance today. This result was not the managers fault but likely to be sacked soon surely.

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01 Dec 2019 19:24:26
Why shouldn't he go, should not have been hired in the first place. At this level he has not got a clue and yet paid a fortune. If this board have any self respect and accept the utter stupidity of hiring this person on zero evidence of his ability to deliver he should be told tonight.

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{Ed047's Note - I cant believe you employed him in the first place either the Spanish Pardew.

01 Dec 2019 19:36:34
Said it from the beginning Ed47, absolutely no evidence or logic for his position at this level. Addon and when he finally goes (I fear our board will still dither) , he should not like Pardew get another job at this level.

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{Ed047's Note - absolutely bill, it amazed me what they saw in his CV that made them think he’s the one.

It’s for me, no different, than the likes of Moyes and Hughes being linked with replacing him, just why?

Everton should be looking much further up the managerial food chain.

01 Dec 2019 19:46:46
Now that's two names that send shivers down my spine Ed.

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{Ed047's Note - mine too Nick, how they keep getting jobs is beyond me.

01 Dec 2019 19:58:30
Being a member of the reject pool is one of the most sought after jobs going Ed. Work for 18 months, sacked, pay off, back in the pool, picked again, sacked, pay off, back in the pool, and so it goes on and on and on. Clubs are happy to take them on for their supposed experience, yet few up and coming managers get a chance.

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01 Dec 2019 20:00:52
He is Portuguese.

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01 Dec 2019 20:01:34
I actually like Moyes and think he could stabilise us. We didn't win anything but we were consistent in the top 7. It is also false to say he failed at Utd, look at his stats. However, as he has said himself it is impossible for a return considering the fans feelings toward him. Recent couple of beers, Moyes good bloke, Lawrenson not so much LOL.

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{Ed025's Note - i cant see the clamour for yet another serial loser mate, imo it was him who turned us into this state of thinking 7th was success ffs, forget all this "yeah but if he had money" malarkey you lot have short memories if you think we were good to watch, our record against the top teams was embarrassing and it would be my worst nightmare if he came back...even on a temporary basis..

01 Dec 2019 20:06:36
Could surprise us is my current thinking (bottle and a half of good wine later - hic) , could be keeping him until Chinese Season ends (January I think) . I have a claim to fame, 1972 Hong Kong is a clue.

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01 Dec 2019 20:09:55
Hi ed047 who would you think would be a good match for our club looking forward? All the names being touted about and most Of the fans can agree on one name that’s how bad of a situation we are in!

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{Ed047's Note - the million dollar question Eddy, I said about Erik Ten Haag on here the other day but people didn’t think you’d be an attractive enough proposition.

01 Dec 2019 20:33:52
Good call. Also instead of chucking loads at Howe, chuck loads at Wolves. Hoddle DoF, Poch coach/ Manager.

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01 Dec 2019 20:38:50
Thats the ED47 question, just who could we attract.

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{Ed047's Note - you’ve just mentioned Pochettino, wouldn’t he be a good shout, still a lot to prove.

01 Dec 2019 21:01:33
I can see why he would come ed047 attractive league money etc but in the other hand the Everton job is becoming like the Newcastle one where nobody wants to touch it and could ruin your career 🤷🏽‍♂️.

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{Ed047's Note - I don’t see as like Newcastle, they have Ashley who doesn’t want to do anything with the club where as you have Moshiri who actually does.

You have a new stadium in the offing and he’s willing to spend, you’ve got, in my opinion, a lot more to offer than some on here seem to think Eddy.

01 Dec 2019 21:28:09
I do agree with you ed on what moshiri has to offer. But some of our fan base has turned a little bit toxic over the last few years and managers don’t get the time to establish themselves as They never get the chance from the off!

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{Ed047's Note - Martinez, Koeman, Unsworth, Allardyce and Silva not one of them in truth were going to take you anywhere.

I think fans quickly realised that hence why it gets toxic.

None of them were ever likely to get you up into the top 6 and beyond.

Ten Haag or Pochettino are much more likely to that for me.

01 Dec 2019 21:36:42
Ed last I heard he was still Portuguese.

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01 Dec 2019 21:43:59
Portuguese Pardew has a better ring to it as well haha

FM is making and has made some strange choices, ed02 explains that he has people in his ears, which seems to be his down fall, let’s hope he allows Brands to do what he was brought into do.

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01 Dec 2019 21:54:25
Yes Ed 100% agree with you them 2 managers our levels above our recent managers I would hope the club does try for a manager on that type of level but it would be hard midseason. I honestly think we should of went for Brendan Rogers think he’s a great manager and think arsenal should push hard for him now.

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{Ed047's Note - well let’s hope your next one is a level up Eddy, you’re a great club and need to get back up there.

I doubt we’ll get Rogers but I wouldn’t say no.

01 Dec 2019 22:06:39
Board man enough to ignore Kenright and make Pochettino a serious offer.

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{Ed002's Note - Pochettino will not be joining Everton.}

01 Dec 2019 23:05:22
Cheers ed002. Slap me down.

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{Ed002's Note - That’ll cost you.}

01 Dec 2019 23:11:22
Okay Ed002, Benitez?

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01 Dec 2019 21:38:59
Said it all the time Ed25 and been consistent in that. Don't give a toss if the perception is good to watch the aim of the game is win. Watch my Grandson every Sunday, I think he is okay (we all do of course for ours) , now and again he does a Beckenbaur and steps out and yeah okay I think. What he does do best as Captain is take responsibility, row Z means row Z. In short if it is 1-0 then 1-0 it is.

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01 Dec 2019 17:24:21
Eds assuming we leave the EU. After the the Brexit transition has ended clubs will have to secure visa's for players they want to bring in. Do you think this might be an opportunity to limit the number of overseas players and concentrate on bringing through the UK youngsters? I think it would also level the playing field a bit more.

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{Ed002's Note - The Visa rules that apply for footballers will extend to EU players. There have been several discussions about changing the home grown rules over many years and proposals have been made by UEFA to limit players on European matchdays (Platini proposed matchday ruling would look to limit the players available during the game to nine not homegrown). Similar plans have failed as home grown reserves would end up padding the bench and effectively have their career moving backwards. I don't think we will see a major change happen any time soon - the longer term perhaps something could happen. What you might well see is a smaller change from having a slightly reduced number of non HG players in the quad - a figure of 12 was proposed but perhaps a reduction from what it is now (17) to say 15 over a two year period might be more palatable.

Individual countries already impose local limits - Italy by a quota system for purchases outside of the Italian league. Spain has the Cotonou Agreement where African and Caribbean players are not counted against non-EU quotas (due to the Kolpak ruling), Ukraine limits non home grown players on the pitch to seven etc.. All of these anomalies would need to be worked out before you can get the balance right across the board.}

01 Dec 2019 19:18:17
Cheers ed. Very interesting scenarios ahead.

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01 Dec 2019 23:07:09
Tis true, the person doea indeed appear to have a grasp.

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Miguel Almiron

01 Dec 2019 14:38:24
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Miguel Almiron

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01 Dec 2019 14:21:57
With various papers saying today that Mr Moshiri and Bill are determined to get Eddie Howe in as he a passionate Everton fan and are prepared to bank roll him with cash for new players etc to get their man, i would like to see him get the job and with money to spend who knows what he could do, might be a Godsend.

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01 Dec 2019 14:57:38
GB, Good post mate I agree, some saying his current form etc. is the 'whole story' are perhaps wearing blinkers he did for the Cherries what amounts to imo a 'gigantuan feat' and many other 'marquee' coaches might find it beyond their own capabilities to achieve in todays football climate.

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01 Dec 2019 15:16:35
Re ''gigantuan''

In fact it was better than that, it was actually 'gargantuan' 🧐 lol.

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01 Dec 2019 15:17:08
And would he run back down south again like he did from Burnley? Do you see him getting us in the top 6? I am not too sure. I would prefer to see a more high profile manager who has tasted top 6 or European competition on a regular basis. I know these guys deserve a chance. Just glad I don't have to make the decision.

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01 Dec 2019 15:18:34
Thanks mate as I say ref the tight reigns that he has had at Bournemouth Eddie Howe always seems to buy bargain basement players and just wonder if had the cash available which he would with us would it be enough to tempt him here, i just think he would do a good job for us.

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{Ed025 Note- im not a big fan to be honest GB, i like the guy but he has won nothing and plays attractive football without a focus on defence, hes another martinez for me mate..

01 Dec 2019 15:28:29
The thing is though nick Everton are not a big club any more we are not a top 4. Club who can attract big name managers we need the likes of eddie Howe to steady the club and move us up for about 5 years or so untill we have a new stadium and we have more appeal to the rest of the world . advertisement for instance . we need a plan and we need to stop thinking we can get instant success.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree with the last bit skylark..

01 Dec 2019 15:28:58
Know what you mean Ed mate maybe we could tempt Benitez, but I think Marco's time to go has come, he's had so many chances.

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{Ed025's Note - he would jump at the chance im sure GB..

01 Dec 2019 15:34:23
Interested in West Ham. Bloke gets homesick. I am with Ed25 on Howe. If these are leaks from Everton, then I hope before letting stuff out they have their man. For me it is still Benitez January, big Dunc or Unsy till then.

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01 Dec 2019 15:40:02
Ed and Nick, there is a lot of 'food for thought ' in what you both say, The 'bank rolling ' factor would hopefully make the crucial difference?

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01 Dec 2019 15:50:04
We could go for Alex Scott. She just got fired from Strictly last night so will be available :-)

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{Ed025's Note - thats very forward thinking of you nick, we would be the first club to have a female manager and everyone would love us, but maybe going from strictly come dancing to strictly no strikers may just be a bit much for her mate..

01 Dec 2019 15:58:43
Another massive risk on someone who is starting to struggle now he's trying to make the next step with Bournemouth.
Went to Burnely and as soon as it started raining went back home.

I like the guy but could he step up to a much bigger club with 40000 roaring at him in the pi**ing down rain of Goodison?
I'm not convinced.

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{Ed025's Note - nor me mate..

01 Dec 2019 16:44:14
Benitez for me would be a great fit. I don't think he will come. Pretty sure he said he would never manage EFC or UTD. don't forget he did refer to us as a little club.

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01 Dec 2019 17:05:59
If I am right Raffa wanted out of Liverpool because they would not give him assurances on investment and transfer funds. With a new stadium on the horizon he can see the investment, and with FM at the helm, he would have the transfer funds. Why should he show loyalty to a club who asked him to leave so the could save paying him £16M. If he is free and wants to walk to work let's get him.

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01 Dec 2019 10:11:24
I heard Riquelme is staying at the Winslow!

Smile anyone?

Come on you blues let’s fight to fight today.

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01 Dec 2019 10:25:48
Always up for the fight Big C, unless it's the missus because then I know I'll lose lol.

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01 Dec 2019 10:53:08
Always Blue 247, # chinnedbythemissus.com
😂😂.

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01 Dec 2019 10:56:09
Morgan Sidewayson passed fit that's great news should help the midfield crisis and provide us with some backwards options. I can't summon up up fight if he is playing sorry. No prizes for guessing our team and formation. Should soon be over that's only hope I have left after the shambles this weeks provided.

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01 Dec 2019 12:44:52
You beat me to it Dunc. A sorry day when we are forced to play him, let's hope he forgets which way we are playing and passes forward for a change.

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01 Dec 2019 12:49:13
It's no surprise this team folds so often when the backbone of Pickford, Keane, Schneiderlin and DCl are still here from the Koeman collapses.

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01 Dec 2019 12:59:41
Do any of you think that Watford might do a massive u-turn and unsettle Marco with a view to taking him back? Me neither but one can live in hope! Seriously, they are on the lookout for their third manager this season, we can't even get rid of our one.

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01 Dec 2019 13:58:46
Hopefully Watford will poach him from us and we can sue for compensation.

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01 Dec 2019 16:07:05
They had better pay us compensation then bluespud.

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01 Dec 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 1st December 2019

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