Everton Banter Archive July 01 2012

01 Jul 2012 22:30:39
Here's a question. Would you rather have pranjic on a free or pienaar for 6 million. The 6 million could be used somewhere else but the bainaar partnership is just so sexy. Both are 30, versatile, good on the ball, amazing on the left and would fit in well.
Blue kaz

Pienaar every day of the week

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Pranjic is a replacement for Baines. Yes he can play higher up the pitch or as a central midfielder, but I would say it's highly likely he has been purchased to replace Baines. With Bayern finding a gem in Alaba, they no longer need Pranjic. A good acquisition by Everton if it all goes through, but I think it is not a case of Pienaar or Pranjic, it's more a case of Pranjic in for Baines. I guess time will tell.

Sydney!

Bayern no longer need him! they have not played him in a year, and he is out of contract and doesnt want to stay there, so bayern have no say on him! and he is left mid who can be utilised as left back, so he would not be a replacement, you can not play him permenently out of preferred position. were do people come up with this crap?

EverTheOptimistic

We are not trying to sign pranjic as a replacement for baines, we were close to signing him in Jan when there wasnt any talk of baines moving, so we are trying to sign a player we were going after months ago, and now all of a sudden hes a replacement for baines, bulls**t.

ewefc

Ewefc

Spot on!

EverTheOptimistic

01 Jul 2012 22:29:20
Daily mail seem to think we don't want pranjic, even though he said himself he will be an everton player in the next few weeks.... Confusing..................

TC

01 Jul 2012 21:44:31
Question so, would you take pranjic, naismith, pienaar, donovan and dempsey for baines?

Yes i would

I would take them all and keep baines, what wrong with that?

EverTheOptimistic {ed025's Note - nothing...

Come on guys, ed hes not saying we should sell bainesy he just posing a dilema and asking what would we think if that did happen saying"take them all" isnt really answering the question of course we would like them all but if it came down to it I would reluctantly say for having a stronger squad in more positions although weaker in one (LB obviously) i would take it, that doesnt mean i want to see him go but the mighty blues will go on long after bainsey has left and we are nothing if not resilient.

ToffeeAL {Ed025's Note - players will always come and go al...thats just a fact of life mate..

Ed i think that was my point

ToffeeAL

I'd take that. Everytime mate

I did answer toffeeAl.

I would take them all and keep baines, why does selling him have to come into it!

Poster said take these and sell baines, I diss agree, if he said we are forced to sell baines would you take these, then the question is given in a different way, which would receive a different answer!

EverTheOptimistic

01 Jul 2012 20:45:14
Such an important 5 months for Everton...August
to December. Don't think we will lose Fellaini
or Baines up until the end of the year, but if one
of the big money clubs are stalling by Christmas, then one of them is likely to hit the release clause
on the Fellaini contract. As such, if there is no
sign of a decent buyer, and Everton are not
knocking on the door of European football by end of the end of the year, the January transfer window is likely to be a much bigger headache for Moyes and Everton fans than the present window.
Oscar

But oscar my dear friend, if they are stalling, and we have made the right signings, and got off to a good start, maybe, just maybe, theres a new era in the prem. why do we have to be doing crap, maybe its us making them crap, think about it that way. we dont need a decent buyer to win games!
it looks to me that you already have us fighting relegation at christmass in your head!

EverTheOptimistic

01 Jul 2012 18:55:37
Are we getting away things here. While were all hwhopping and hollering about Naismith comin(if he does) and what a great signing. Have you spared a thought on he hasnt played any footie since i dont know when, a bad ligament injury, is he cured and ready for fitness yet? Will he be this wonder player again ? God i hope after all this waiting he's ok and proves us all right....

Worth a chance on a free mate

Naismith is top class and he will prove it in the prem {Ed024's Note - I agree

01 Jul 2012 18:07:54
would you be happy with just signing Naismith and Pranjic and selling no one
or
Sacrifice a starting player and sign piennar?

toffee haz {Ed025's Note - that would be great..

01 Jul 2012 17:40:43
The media need to look at teams before they annoy people or get people's hopes up... The newspapers seem to think because we are getting pranjic we are getting rid of Baines. They need to look that everton only have one left back so we need someone for back up. Plus, pranjic can play on the wings, so he is just going to be a good squad member to have................

TC {Ed025's Note - he would tc..

Ed,is he definetly signing?
Joe EFC {Ed025's Note - nothing is definite till he actually signs joe..

Plus we were after him in January when there wasnt any talk of baines moving so I dont see how we are replacing baines with a player we were already after.

ewefc

01 Jul 2012 16:53:49
About my post about pranjic.... I think we need a player like him. He said he will be honoured to play for us. Not many players play for the shirt and I believe he will.... He would be a great signing. I spoke to a bayern fan and he said he is the real deal and he is shocked that he didn't play for them because he's such a good player..............

TC

01 Jul 2012 16:04:25
Whittaker has signed for Norwich which must mean that the legal issues re rangers have been dealt with - come on BK, confirm Naismith and get the summer transfers off to a good start!

01 Jul 2012 15:07:02
Can anyone confirm the following. I know pranjic can play left back but any website i check up says his main position is midfield. Is moyes signing him to line up along side gibson and push fellaini on??

Hes best as a winger,he was excellent at Heerenveen.
Joe EFC

He can play as a CM or a CDM, but he is primarily a left sided player, be it LB or LM, and I'd imagine he would be used there, or maybe possibly on the right if need be

01 Jul 2012 14:40:31
Saying on Sky sports website that Baines is aware of the rumours regarding a move to man utd but just hopes everton keep hold of their star players this summer, that sounds like he is staying to me so all these rumours need to stop now, until the club say otherwise, or the end of the transfer window comes and baines is still an everton player, maybe then the rumours will end.

ewefc

Didnt Arteta say the same thing tho and look what happened there...

Arteta forced the deal through, baines has already stated that if an offer is not accepted he is happy to stay at Everton, so I dont think it is the same as Arteta.

ewefc

01 Jul 2012 14:08:26
Even though i don't believe anything until it is signed and sealed i do think we will get naismith and hopefully pienaar. Just seen on ESPN pranjic saying it would be an honour to play for us so maybe that's a goer. I would be happy if this would all happen. plus maybe donovan in january.
fingers crossed

Andy {Ed025's Note - me too andy..

01 Jul 2012 13:27:38
Ed her is a question for you and fellow blues:
IF we sign Donovan would we be able to loan him straight back to the Galaxy to finish the season off? And if that happened then when there season finished in November would he be able to come and play for us if he's returning to his parent club ie, out of the transfer window?!?
Just a thought!
Cheers
Mickey Blue Eyes {Ed025's Note - not sure mate..

Doubt it as you cant name a player away on loan in your 25 man squad

ToffeeAL

01 Jul 2012 13:31:29
Just saw that hoilett is free agent why is no one snapping him up I thought he is class and was at the heart of all Blackburns goals last season put it this way he will be worth 15 million in couple of season if not more I think we should get him also if baines is sold which I pray he is
Not I don't think we will have the same pienaar back as baines makes him the player he is the understanding is brilliant get shot of fringe players like anichibe you would probably get 4 or 5 million for him he is never going to be first choice and use wages on Adam Johnson and hoilett

Have you been living under a cave lately hoilett has signed for Borussia Mönchengladbach

Totally agree mate

ToffeeTony

Correct, he is a free agent, however, because he's an academy player he would require compensation. The compensation required is about £5m.

Keith EFC

Yeah I agree he is a Free Agent (just checked) so I don't know why we don't snap him up cos he's a great young prospect especially for 3,4 or £5 million. In a few years time he'll easily be worth £15 million and will be one of the Prem's top wingers.

Pecko

He was ment to be going to Germany were his brother also plays, might have fell through! I would give Blackburn big Vic as compo for him!

EverTheOptimistic

01 Jul 2012 12:51:54
Can all these so called Everton fans stop posting about Baines leaving? The 'prospect' of him leaving is depressing enough without so many fools constantly copying & pasting articles they've read in the red tops and actually appearing to believe them! Often these posters do seem to come from Blues. So frustrating! BlueTone

I thought this was a page to post what people have read I know its a worring time with all these rumours but hoping they will go away if we dont post them is a bit silly and calling them "so called" supporters is at best insulting if you dont like it dont read it I for one want to see evertything so i can make my own judgement.

ToffeeAL

Spot on BT

Degsybluenose

Dont read them, not rocket science is it....

You need to take yer head out of yer ar*e!. If think baines won,t go. do you remember "Rooney" everybody was saying, oh! he won,t go!, he loves everton, this was after weeks of speculation!.. and just for the record, I am an evertonian, and a scouser, were are you from wales!...johnmacfromfazak

Sorry mate I see where youre coming from and I actually agree but people will post things like that after all it is a rumour site.
Joe EFC

Get your head out the sand lad the prospect of him leaving is very real as unfortunate as that may be so deal with it !

01 Jul 2012 10:31:24
Man United signed Chris Powell for 5m but they want baines for 15m that's a joke he is at least the second best left back in the league and they obviously don't want him that bad if they weren't going to pay over 15m and wanted to get Jordi Alba. We are going to lose all our best players at this rate plus we will be getting ripped off for our best players.

Chris Powell is the charlton manager. I think you mean nick Powell Alastair

I can't believe they have spent £5million on a total unknown Chris Powell, especially when it was Nick Powell who played for Crewe. We should sell them Martin Baines for £30million they will never notice! Jobsagoodun

01 Jul 2012 09:14:32
I heard a strong rumour that Mars's Ace striker is having a medical at finch farm this week,as soon as the inter planet cup final is completed. {Ed025's Note - your talking through...uranus..

Where the final will happen i need a ticket!!!!!!!lol

01 Jul 2012 07:59:43
Everton’s Nikica Jelavic looks as though he will be re-united with former Rangers frontman Steven Naismith as David Moyes makes his first venture into the transfer market. Naismith who Jelavic described as a perfect strike partner looks to be set to follow the Croat south of the border and join the Toffees. Naismith has refused to have his contract swapped over from Rangers to ‘Rangers Newco’ and has decided that his future lies elsewhere.

Naismith is one of 9 players who have asked to be released including Steven Whittaker, John Fleck, Alan McGregor, Sone Aluko, Jamie Ness and Kyle Lafferty in looking for a new club. Everton have been examing the legality of any deal amid fears that legal action could be taken by Newco should they enter into a contract with Naismith. However, it appears that they have a strong enough case to offer the 25 year old Scot a long term deal.

Naismith is a hardworking player who can play off the frontman as well as occupying wide areas of the pitch. Naismith began his career with Kilmarnock in 2004. He spent four years with the Ayrshire side before moving to Rangers in the summer of 2007 for a fee of £1.9m. While with the club he has won three consecutive league titles, a Scottish Cup in 2008 and the League Cup twice.

Naismith made his full international debut in 2007 against the Faroe Islands and has 13 caps, scoring two goals, against Spain and Lithuania.

Should Everton complete the deal it would represent a shrewd piece of business by David Moyes who is looking for options in attacking areas after releasing Denis Stracqualursi and James McFadden this summer.

It has been suggested that as many as nine clubs are interested in Naismith but Everton appear to have won the race for a man Nikica Jelavic described as being his best ever strike partner. Naismith’s committed style and fearless nature has attracted David Moyes’s attention and a deal looks likely to be concluded over the weekend barring any last minute hitches.
Blue D

Why do people put an a witha line above it and euro sign and TM after some words it just makes it harder to read

Pecko {Ed025's Note - it happens when people copy and paste a piece on to the site..

01 Jul 2012 02:51:11
should go for celtics right back adam mathews. very good and only 20

01 Jul 2012 00:44:46
Why would we be selling Baines to United when we are supposed to be very close to re-signing Pienaar............to reform the link with Baines down the left ? It just doesn't make any sense....Pienaar surely wouldn't come back here if he thought we were selling Baines to anyone. Also I believe the Man Utd era is now over....and Everton could just be on the verge of becoming a very good side.

The 2 lads I follow closely in regards to Everton, and are usually spot on with things related to Everton reckon Utd haven't even made contact with Everton yet in regards to Baines. And honestly I cant see why they would, it would need north of 17/18mil for Baines, they have an experienced left back, who was also their captain last season in Evra, if he is sold, then begin to worry, but this summer I just don't see them signing an 18+mil players to occupy the bench for more than half the time.

Besides, if they wait for Evra to retire or whatever (1-2yrs I would say), they could get Baines for far cheaper as he would be older and nearing the end of his contract.

Also good news on Pienaar, apparently the last week has been very productive between the two sides and they are much closer to a deal. So hopefully they can agree and Pienaar and be alongside Baines on the left.

I think Fergie prefers 'british' players to 'foreigners' - if I can put it that way - especially if the foreigners cause him 'problems' off the pitch - not sure would have liked the evra saurez incidents

01 Jul 2012 00:12:35
Baines and Fellaini going nowhere. Naismith and Pienaar will sign. Stay positive lads! Top 6 this year

Neil {Ed025's Note - love it neil..

30 Jun 2012 23:58:52
Everyone read baines's interview today. He makes it pretty clear he's not interested in moving to united..............

TC