Everton Banter Archive September 01 2013

 

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01 Sep 2013 23:29:26
So in his time at Wigan, Roberto Martinez valued James McCarthy at £20m? Yet, he's just bid £7m for him. Is this what you would call a 'derisory and insulting' offer?

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I'd say it was. but I think it was Dave wheel an who put the 20 m price tag. not Martinez. I would say 11-12m is a fair price. but no more. kagawa was 10m Capone was 9. I can't see how McCarthy would be much more than this 2. before anyone bangs on about fellainis price tag. he's proven and can play a number of different roles. yet to be demonstrated by the players I have just mentioned. Jcl

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No, an offer to high lol

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Umm i'm sorry hasn't McCarthy proved he is prem quality? Kags went for 16 because of having 1 year left on his contract as did capoue
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Yes CTR he has proved he is prem quality but he's hardly in the Fellaini league is he?.£20 mill is a joke I would not pay more than £12 mill for him and you have already stung us with Kone so do one.

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CRT. I concede on kagawa. may have got price wrong. as for 1 yr on their contracts. I think McCarthy has 2. That said McCarty isn't a proven, seasoned Internationale. nor is he (yet) as versatile as fellainis. or Capoue. but what are u falling to understand here. our old manager has acted in appropriately in so many ways. Martinez has said nothing on the utd bid. nor the McCarthy bid. only the board made comments. we are negotiating properly. also tell me this fellainis is worth 25+m. he's proven his worth. McCarthy hasn't yet. so he has to be much cheaper than felli.jcl

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01 Sep 2013 23:13:32
Just seen on tv we are currently no 15 in prem spending this season so really hope tomorrow is very busy and we are actually a club looking to move forward and progress! Wakka

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I don't care how much we spend its how we spend it I watched the game today arsenal v spurs now is it me but everyone saying arsenal need to spend which I agree with but spurs have done 100m and they were hardly creating anything apart from lumping it into the box I think they have bought badly only a couple I see succeeding they need to play another way now bale has left no pace personally I don't think they have improved from 2 seasons ago under Harry do I think there miles ahead of us no I don't just have larger squad if we keep hold of fellaini and baines and add a goalscorer and another cm I think we can push on from last season but we need goals this will be are biggest deadline day ever brace your self for an up and down day but expect a lot from early morning

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01 Sep 2013 23:06:36
Hope you have a good server this site will go into meltdown in a few hours! {Ed025's Note - we have a better server than goran ivanizovic mate,, :)

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01 Sep 2013 22:49:19
Is Carlos Vela really what we need 5 goals in 37 games in england for Arsenal and WBA not exactly screaming world class striker is it? Also he is Sociedad's main man and they are in champs league

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01 Sep 2013 22:39:59
Really not looking forward for tomorrow ed. going to be an absolute disaster! I can see felli going and either we get no one to replace him or we overprice on a replacement (McCarthy) {Ed025's Note - your not looking forward to it ben!!!....Im putting my fingers in the freezer overnight mate!.. :)

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01 Sep 2013 22:02:03
come on ed, this is a rumour page give us your inside info on the last day of transfer day. we won't hang you if your wrong. lol {Ed025's Note - the last day is tomorrow johnny, and most people will want to hang me if things go tits up mate.. :)

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01 Sep 2013 21:58:43
As much as I think McCarthy would be a good addition I think the cost is silly. I hope RM looks beyond Wigan and into Europe for some talent that's as good but at less cost.

Is it too late to trade Kone to Blackburn for Rhodes plus a few mill?

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Ironically, there are strong rumours that Rhodes is close to signing for Wigan

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Get off kones back. We say give martinez time so give him a chance

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01 Sep 2013 21:51:13
Hi ed & blues, just want to say/ask a few things
1) Do you know of any player we're interested in?
2) Do you think we'll sign anyone without selling Fellaini/Baines? (if so, how many?)
3) Been hearing us been linked with the likes of McCarthy, Barry & Ince. Now I know we all have different opinions, but personally I want better for our club, and if we have, what, £23mill-£25mill to spend on them, could that money not be spent better elsewhere? {Ed025's Note - see previous posts mate..

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01 Sep 2013 21:48:24
Ed what is the possibility of signing a striker I think that and a cm are essential your thoughts speke blue {Ed025's Note - A striker is my priority speke, i dont know about bobby though..

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01 Sep 2013 21:47:47
Wigan have rejected our offer of 10mill for McCarthy, ( which is of course their right) but now we should walk away and count it as a lucky escape, and should definitely not return with an increased offer. I don't think he is a bad player, and he could certainly do a job, but, is not that special either. Moyes is a t. t, but he is not a stupid t. t, if he thought he could run a game, at the top level in central midfield he would be all over him like a rash, given he is now becoming desperate, so thanks wigan, but no thanks, don't know if big top is off or not, but if we sell, we should get someone with real class. particularly if we are paying 10m +!

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You don't get much ready made real class for 10m but I would say that as a holding midfielder that capoue plays that position a lot better than felli and he was only 9m, so they are out there

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01 Sep 2013 21:46:34
Quite a random one, but considering we need a striker and might be lacking a big of height presence when/if Fellaini goes, what about Oscar Cardozo?

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Not this again -_-

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01 Sep 2013 21:44:55
Following our bid, I am scared McCarthy will become a joe Allen type of signing, following his last manager and not being good enough( and costing far too much) Your thoughts fellow blues and ed.l, is he good enough?

Zulu toffee {Ed025's Note - good for £12m tops!..

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Yes top top player watch him when he plays for Ireland against top class cm then make your own opinion the guy is the new Roy keane

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01 Sep 2013 21:21:49
Good luck eds for tomorrow, hope you have booked the day off Work to keep us all informed.

Zulu toffee. {Ed025's Note - iv booked the week zulu..cheers..

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I would screw utd 25 million for Fellaini and insist on bringing in little pea chiquerito as part of the deal,

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01 Sep 2013 21:20:52
We all have to accept the fact that Fellaini is most probably going to the theatre of wet dreams to be reuinited with Gollums twin.
However I think Baines will be staying!

With the result against Liverpool today I think we could push for 25m for Felli now.

If we say we already have 5 mil to spend, with the 28mil (20% of any profit made on Fellaini goes to Liege) i'd bring in.

Vela 15m
Mcarthy 12m
Ba loan
Barry loan

Thoughts blues? {Ed025's Note - all good mate..

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City in for Felli I've heard. Odds have tumbled too. Now that would be one up the butt for Moyes

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Rodwell back to us then

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01 Sep 2013 21:20:28
I am not sure if I will enjoy tomorrow as again losing players on the last day and not being able to replace, I hope a striker and 2 cm arrive. I guess the the wig wil go, 6 Stella's in fridge to either enjoy the day or drink to forget the board have let us down in taking us forward (again). Rant over

Zulu toffee. {Ed025's Note - enjoying tomorrow is not something i am contemplating either zulu!.. :)

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01 Sep 2013 21:00:23
I think our main focus has to be a CM and a ST looking at the first 3 games. What happens tomoz will be anyones guess though.

Andy

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01 Sep 2013 20:51:59
Would take that postiga of Valencia, looks like old fashioned CF what we need, scored 2 against Barca so far and making a menace of himself - with valencias money trouble I reckon 5 mill would get him - hopefully robby feels the same

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Isn't Postiga about 132058329428 years old? {Ed025's Note - 31..

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If you mean bulky players with limited pace we have three already, we need some one more mobile to play the football he wants

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01 Sep 2013 20:47:05
Professional sports are similar on both sides of the pond (save for one small exception). A new manager/head coach takes over a team, brings in some new players he knows as the team has a new system. Trade/sell some older veterans or players not seen to fit the future of the program. Bring in younger less costly less experienced players and plan to rebuild for a few years.

That works in American sports well. The Houston baseball team with an entire 25 man payroll less than many single players on other teams has the worst record and big profits.

And they could do this year after year without repercussion. Such would not happen in the EPL. Less money for lower finishes and the dread of a bottom 3 finish mean "rebuilding" or an "off year" just are not an option.

The other thought I have is as follows: many teams purge the payrolls and dedicated future costs before something big (big signings or a new ownership group). Heck, maybe we can Mr. Suarez to help us out up front (really just kidding of course).

In any case, we will find out in the next 24 hours or so how serious the management is about the 2013-2014 season.

As a bootnote, I watched a chunk of the Arsenal - Spurs match today. Uhh. the game speed of those teams is a whole different game. Less passes and players running straight down the field attacking.

Kick Chelsea in 2 weeks.

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20mil for mccarthy got to b having a laugh! Would take anderson an lingard 15mil for fellie. Might b slightly optimistic but that's the deal take or leave it moyes! What do ya think ed? {Ed025's Note - £20m is way over the top, they are trying to take advantage...tell them to stick it!..

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01 Sep 2013 20:44:33
I'm staying off work tomorrow and won't be moving from my living room.
tv day should be made a public holiday.
Just hope Everton don't come off second best as usual.

Andy The Chef. {Ed025's Note - a lot of people will go hungry andy.. :)

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Hope it's worth it andy but somehow I can't see it being Evertons best day.
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01 Sep 2013 20:42:49
Hope we don't get mccarthy. Just to shut that whelan up. Can't stand the man.

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01 Sep 2013 20:22:34
Come over a bit pessimistic I know, but from the start Bill said he would listen to the fans on appointing our new manager. What does he do but appoint Martinez on the basis of one good game against us and watching him win the FA Cup. Didn't BK see any of Martinez constant relegation battles? His tactics and lack of ability are going to make us fight relegation all this season. We haven't even played anyone of note yet. 15th 3 points from 3 games. 38 could be Championship next season {Ed025's Note - a bit pessimistic you say?..downright depressing i would say!..and totally wrong..

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01 Sep 2013 20:19:40
Do we think defoe would be a martinez type player? And do we really see everton moving for him?.Am looking forward for tomorrow hope EFC are busy and fingers crossed felli and baines stay but if we are to lose one I'd rather see felli go then baines.

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01 Sep 2013 20:15:00
Ed I know this is nothing to do with Everton, but I am a Welsh Evertonian and would just like to congratulate Gareth Bale. He is now the worlds most expensive player and will earn a basic 300k /week. This equates to 16.5 million a yr or 93.6 million over his 6 year contract.
No more Nandos for him.

I'll also be writing to him soon to loan us some dosh! Lol

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01 Sep 2013 20:03:54
Hope we have some surprises tomoz or the season is over come on bill get the money out stop making us a laughing stock

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01 Sep 2013 19:59:25
Listen fellas, here's the permutations, we sell MF and LB, and bring in replacements who may, or may not be better, in the long term. We sell just one of them, probably MF, and we replace him with probably Mcarthy.Or we keep both players, and from somewhere produce a real marquee signing ( ambitious I know, but we live in hope) The point being fellas, we're Evertonians, and no matter what happens in the next few hours, we'll still be there every Saturday, home and away, because that's what we do. This is our club lads, not owned by some faceless Arabs or Yanks, but our club, real, true Scousers, and proud too, so whether or not tomorrow is good or bad, let's just carry on supporting, because its in our DNA. NSNO. Park Ender {Ed025's Note - love it mate..

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I like it, I like it

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Love it great post coyb

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01 Sep 2013 19:52:30
Don't stay up too long Ed you have a big day ahead of you tomorrow. Think you might need an extra Weetabix in the morning. {Ed025's Note - i have got 4 shredded wheat ready and waiting micky.. :)

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Nice to see you taking my advice Ed.

Toffee ace {Ed025's Note - i dont want to wake up to 100,s of posts in the morning ace.. :)

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01 Sep 2013 19:46:40
How come every time we don't win our first 3/4 matches some n@mpty comes on here crying about how we are going down! If I had a quid for everytime I heard that! C'mon guys get real. Some of the fans at this club are just down right pathetic. I'd swear some of them would love us to go down just so they can say 'I told you so!'

Stop moaning and get behind the team instead of calling for people to boycott matches and whinging about BK, the Board, RM, Ossie, Naismith or whoever else happens to be villain of the month! because it's just boring!

And don't come on here ranting about Realism and telling me to get my head out of the sand or whatever because the simple fact is nobody wants to buy us so until someone does I'm afraid we are stuck with what we have! So unless you know a billionaire who is willing to pump money into the club sh@t up and get behind the team and the players that we DO have! Instead of acting like babies who've just dropped their lollipops on the floor! COYB!

aflm78 {Ed025's Note - that works for me aflm..

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So you can come on here giving it the big 'un, the positive stuff but nobody can say anything factual. Are you David Moyes- hypocrite? {Ed025's Note - all views are valid on here, unless they are abusive or petty..

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That's lies ed, there's been factual stuff posted about bk but because it doesn't suit your pro bk agenda it doesn't get posted, so the debate is one sided. {Ed025's Note - thats lies!...use the search function, and you will see a lot of anti BK stuff, but repetitive, or abusive stuff will not be posted..

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I replied to paddock further down giving him a factual breakdown of the lost £20m where did that go? {Ed025's Note - you started by being a smart arse, and was abusive, so in the bin, you also did not leave a name for him to reply to, does that answer your question?..

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And no it doesn't answer the question, it uses sleight of hand, dodging tactics.
Tell the truth, robust debate is not allowed or encouraged. {Ed025's Note - then why bother?..

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Excellent question. Maybe because it offers factual information and contains no abusive, nor any smart arse comments it will be posted. Obviously not!

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01 Sep 2013 19:28:27
Save whealan on saying we've made another bid for McCarthy. Presume fellis off. Still think we need another cm, don't think McCarthy is anywhere near Fellaini, he's not going to win us matches, not at the moment anyway. Still think we desperately need a new striker as well, every weekend I look at our team and think the exact same. Who the hell is going to score?! Of we had crystal palace or hull at home I wouldn't go into that game thinking oh yes I'm really confident about a result here like I should do. Just my personal view not sure if anyone agrees with me but everyone's entitled to their own opinion! Thanks ed I'm sure the site will be overrun today and tomorrow with dodgy sightings etc!

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Im sorry but if and when McCarthy signs it won't be his job to win as matches his job will be to help as play and pass at a higher tempo, so the sooner you realise that the better.

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01 Sep 2013 19:23:15
The way I'm looking at this situation is that rm is possibly waiting the outcome of lb and mf before he makes his final decisions on signings, he probably has a plan in who to buy with the cash he had available but with these possibly leaving he will have a lot bigger budget to buy better players than what he had in mind with the small budget and may have signings in line with bigger bucks. I'm probably way off but just something as a possible reason. here's hoping anyway

Westy

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Westy, time to smell the coffee.

If Fellani and Baines don't go there will be a loan or two.

Budget was blown on Kone and its all gone

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01 Sep 2013 19:10:00
So we r three games in and have 3 points.

Appears to have been a lot of negativity recently amongst us, which is a shame. We r 6 points off top, 5 from 2nd and three from 3rd. Personally I am not to down beat.
I am a little worried about us losing players, but I think if we lose Felli we could potential gain.
Roberto knows we need a striking poacher to bag us 20.

I think he has worked miracles akready given how we now keep the ball. Some call it boring, I call it gr8. Opposition will have to decide whether to hunt us down or sit back and hit us on the break.
Frustrate the opposition and lapses in concentration will usually develop.

Another centre mid and quality striker who frighten defences please Roberto.
Everton are well drilled and credit to the name that shall not be mentioned, but now our younger players will learn how to control, pass, move, find space and more importantly scare sides because they wil be given confidence in their individual abilities.

A new era is dawning blues, be patient and I am confident that we will get positive rewards.
And no I am not BK. Lol {Ed025's Note - good stuff AW mate..

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01 Sep 2013 19:09:59
People saying were miles behind others not so sure about that Manchester United are so overrated take RVP and Rooney out they are average I can see why they want fellaini there midfield is rubbish and I think ours is better I mean cleverly how on earth does he get in that side let alone england when you put there 11 against ours then man for man there is not many utd players I would pick over ours Chelsea and man city are the only 2 clubs that blow our squad out of the water all other teams we should not fear

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01 Sep 2013 19:05:40
Tomorrow is going to be our longest day, our 'D Day' -Keep calm and carry on!
In the words of Dwight;
Our road will be long and hard. For the enemy (Utd) is strong. He may hurl back our refusals. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again (and hopefully not for crap players); and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our club will triumph.
We will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest - until the signings are made. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men's souls will be shaken with the final hours of the transfer window.

But remember, it's not over till the fat lady sings (does anyone know a big bird who can belt out a tune?) {Ed025's Note - loved that mushy mate, its the trenches for me tomorrow..

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01 Sep 2013 19:00:24
BK- ' I remember when they sold Dave Hickson, my absolute hero, and I wrote to the directors and told them I'd never support them again'.

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01 Sep 2013 18:59:39
Am I the only one who thinks super Kev would be quality in a more Cf position. think he would be banging them in.

Cez true blue

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I'm with you cez

Westy

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Cez, I was thinking the same yesterday but wouldn't post. tbh I think we should play 2 upfront. if we don't buy an ou and out striker, then I'd play kev and a.n.other up front. from what we've got I'd probably play victor with him. jcl

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01 Sep 2013 18:52:05
Hi Ed, how much did we get from the league last season? We have missed out on so many players who we could of had on loan, it scary. Seems all the players that could of improved the squad have gone to other teams. Do you think we will get anyone that will get the fans excited? {Ed025's Note - we will make some additions that will be good jrab mate..

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01 Sep 2013 18:48:39
You looking forward to tomorrow Ed?

Andy {Ed025's Note - yeah andy...and i have got a lovely trip to the dentist next week as well.. :)

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01 Sep 2013 18:38:44
I really hope we make at least 3 good signings 2moro and one of them has to be a striker we are really lacking up front someone like defoe would be great

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01 Sep 2013 18:38:19
Moyes can say what he wants that he's already got a decent squad. Watch tomoz when the Man U panic buying starts! Their in trouble and they know it! They have lost their aura and their fans will not be happy.
If they come in for our boys top dollar please!

Believe in Roberto!

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01 Sep 2013 18:33:33
I hope RM thinks long and hard about his next signings as we don't have money to waste, IMO we have already wasted around £6 mill on a striker who looks no better than what we have. Some people are saying Mcarthy is going to be a great player but £15 mill is silly, When you consider what Fer & Capoue were signed for. KK. PS I hope Wigan don't have anyone else for sale.

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01 Sep 2013 18:20:10
Not a rumour Ed but more of a reality check. Reading of late has become a bit depressing with posts that seem always to paint us black rather than a perfect shade of blue. Fed up of reading about all the players we have missed and giving in on Baines and Fellaini.
There have only been two questions this transfer window that matter. Will United pay enough for Baines and Fellaini as they are the only interested buyer. Second, do the players want to go? If the answer to both questions is yes then it is a done deal. No use keeping unhappy players and if the money is right it's pretty good in a one bidder auction.
As for the ones we have missed where we ever really able or indeed interested? Much of what we hear is paper talk. Clearly if they go we need a new LB, CM, and based on current scoring record someone who can hit the back of the net. We will know in next 15 hours or so whether to smile or cry!
Fishyblue {Ed025's Note - never a truer word said fishy mate..

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01 Sep 2013 17:43:30
Ed am I right in thinking that our club runs at a £5 million a year loss? Am asking because I'm led to believe that we currently have 3 billionaires (granchester/ earle/ green) sitting on our board, not as investors but as advisers. If that's the case don't you think they need to be made to leave the club as in my honest and humble opinion they ain't exactly advising very well. Thoughts?? {Ed025's Note - your right, and your right mate..

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1/ The losses are nearer £20m a year
2/ Grantchester is NOT on the board.

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20m a year haha that must mean we are a few hundred Mill in debt then, what a load of Bull PADDOCKBLUE

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Yep, £20m a year losses. Have a look through the latest accounts £9m lost, with the sale of Arteta included so £19m. Not far off £20m.
This year's may be different with the new sky deal, we may break even considering we've spent a whopping £6m.

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01 Sep 2013 17:41:08
Hope we can keep Felli and Baines, but if they do go, I hope we get Barry on loan and can acquire McCarthy for no more tan 10 million.

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01 Sep 2013 17:17:18
Moyes starting to stamp his mark on the man u team, Van Persie starting to look like a average striker already.

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Bit expensive but great player

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01 Sep 2013 17:03:22
Gundogan from Dortmand anyone?

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If onyl

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I dunno is he better than osman?
Quinny

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Love it we really r a joke aren't we? We can't even compete with Southampton never mind a player that plays for champion league runners up dortmond. Get a grip lucky if we sign defoe mccarthy and s@#ty barry. h season ticket holder for over 24yrs an am only 33 we r a joke of a club an I am not happy at all poor side that needs money spent right manager just a awful board and investors feel so sorry for martinez because he is yhe right man for the job.

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01 Sep 2013 17:01:51
i know its not about everton, but I would just like to say how good it is to see stiliyan petrov doing so well and looking pretty healthy on goals on sunday, i'm sure I can say this from all everton fans good luck with the rest of your treatment.

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I 100% agree with that, have been in that situation myself having had the same disease as him and its great to see him doing so well

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01 Sep 2013 16:59:07
Defoe on the bench, not even a gamble, a proven prem striker. tom carroll from spurs would be a good signing as well. Wont get near the spurs starting 11 now.

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If he won't get near their 11 then he won't touch ours either! We finished one place behind them last year!?

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Think he's gone on loan

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01 Sep 2013 16:58:30
Moyes destroyed every striker he had, and look at the youngsters, he wouldn't give a chance to, also the youngsters he sold, two come to mind. John Ruddy and James Vaughan. Vaughan was so unlucky with injuries, none of them his fault. Now seems to be scoring for fun, a cheeky bid maybe, before he comes back and possibly bites us on the backside.

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Think vaughans level is the championship

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01 Sep 2013 16:52:11
We can't pay our debts, keep our best players, and sign top players. 3 doesn't go into 2. Personally, I'd like to keep our players and use the tv money to pay off the debts, so next summer we can spend big and not in a panic

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The tv money was borrowed last year we have to pay it back as we get it. So we don't have any money.

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Who will want to come to us in the championship? Finding it difficult in the prem!

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01 Sep 2013 16:35:39
why is mirrallas playing a bit more central? and jelavic a bit wider to give mirrallas some space central just come to think of it if jellyfish had those headers that mirrallas had we would have won that 2-0. PKBLUE

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I think you will find that the new system is supposed to be fluid in that players can and should move out wide so allowing the wide player to come late on the inside.

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01 Sep 2013 16:33:39
This transfer window is the same as the last 4 or 5, linked with plenty players, some good some average, some we know some we've never heard of. Then we sign nobody of note and mark my words tommorow we will be linked with some top player only for it to be too late and we will run out of time as we couldn't afford him anyway and the board will claim we really tried. Though we won't try again in January in case they actually have to buy him.
RickTe

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01 Sep 2013 16:32:14
Below taken from moyes yesterday. The tactical genius at work today was it?.


But things are different now and Moyes is bullish. “I go there with the champions of England, which is something I’ve not had, and I go there with a different team, with a different group of players, ” Moyes said.“I’d love to have a much better record than I do [at Anfield] but there were mitigating circumstances for it… I was at Everton competing against really good Liverpool sides.“I don’t need to say it but they had a far better budget than I had so, was it hard to win that game? Of course it was.”

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Private Eye have a column I-eye
for excessive use of the personal pronoun.

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This muppet for whole 10 yrs said only one thing, everton didn't gave me money, frankly speaking he has used everton to cover his shortcomings .

for gods sake I hate lairs., this dumb fella has faild to add any signing to manu, even afer having all the name and money. past 10 yrs he blamed it on us, what is he doing now? how many signings has he made? none.

and again abt his poor record at anfield,
in 2011 - wigan, WBA, fulham
in 2012 - WAB, aston villa

were able to beat them, and if u go back even wolves, swansea did that beat them at anfield, but everton couldn't, moyes negative tactics have held us back too man times . this guy won't ever succeed, he's just too busy finding excuses .looser

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01 Sep 2013 16:25:15
RVP won't score 20 premiere league goals with moyes in charge. I was impressed with liverpool in the first half but UTD reminded me of us last year.

The fans need to back RM but much more BK and the useless board and the unfit for purpose elstone have to put the money in and invest in some good young hungry players.

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01 Sep 2013 16:18:54
Does anyone else think that a season where perhaps we don't finish as high as previous seasons may drive the clubs price down and make it more likely that new investment to come? I know it sounds odd but its a possibility that bk is holding out for too high a price and therefore a poorer placing means he may have to accept a lower bid. Might work out best in the long run.?

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No, regardless of position, he will not sell unless the price is right for him.

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As long as we're in the premier league and the tv cash is rolling in then I can't see the price dropping. He's asking way too much, since he effectively acquirer the club for free.

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I cannot give the name of the person who told me this, but I have every reason to see it as true. BK, has had at least three offers, all of which have, in different ways, come very close to the reported asking price, all three have been rejected, some on the most dubious pretexts. In the end I can only speculate, the the real reason why a sale has not gone forward, is our chairman's king sized ego . Thanks for that bill.

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01 Sep 2013 16:12:49
Proven centre forward badly needed. Take Fernandez as part of Fellaini deal and put offer in for Torres. It's no good going a season having ball passes but a scorer is needed and quick.An ex red or ex anybody is better than none. The signs are there already that it will be a long slog this season. When up against the big boys if goal behind haven't the forwards to respond.

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01 Sep 2013 16:09:43
When did Steve Round have the operation to remove the head set?

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Ha ha . .

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01 Sep 2013 17:27:24
the headset was only required at everton, it was a direct link to kenwright, telling him to take a forward off and put a defender on if we were winning 1-0

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01 Sep 2013 15:40:46
Heard a rumour that Fellaini and Baines are staying at Everton, as Moyes is getting sacked in the morning, he's getting sacked in the morning, sacked in the morning, he's getting sacked in the morning.

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Well said red golams a joke

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01 Sep 2013 15:40:17
Sed on radio city that Moses is at Liverpool today watching the game, gutted we missed out on him from blue beard

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They must be barking 1st selling sturidge then loaning to arival club as mourino lost the plot. they look strong. moyes is proving filling whisky nose is beyond him said he faced liverpool with a smaller budget whith everton what's his excuse now.we have played crap up front but are only 1 point behind him get a striker mr martinez and finish above moyes.tom efc

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01 Sep 2013 15:38:14
Tell the ginger rat that big top's price just went up to 40m!

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01 Sep 2013 15:36:05
BK if your reading this site (i.e. listening to the fans) please give us something to cheer. get the cheque book out and do what's right.jcl

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01 Sep 2013 15:26:23
If they go
Howard
Coleman jags distin shaw/jetro Williams
McCarthy Gibson
Mirallas Barkley Delefou
Hoisner

That's got a lot of pace and invention in the front 4 plus a midfield duo both confident spreading the play and moving the ball forward.

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If both go I'd be happy with bertrand, McCarthy, ince( see his goal this weekend?), holtby and and a striker

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I don't understand why foolish fans think Gibbo can be a first team regular. he's always injured. Gibbo is good, very good on his day is nothing more than a squad player.

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01 Sep 2013 15:25:35
DM still not won at Anfield. I wonder if he is just happy to get out of there alive.

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Or Old Trafford

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He's still yet to win at OT too.

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01 Sep 2013 15:16:44
hi all
why would our 2 boys want to leave for utd.
team in decline. don't look very good today or last week against Chelsea. moyes has them playing like us last season

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01 Sep 2013 15:06:00
It's a big world out there, with lots and lots of footballers, I hope we we are not just shopping in Greater Manchester. It seems every player we're linked with goes somewhere else, I thought Moses was certainly on the cards. I think every one seems to agree we need more pace and strength in midfield, and a better striker than what we've got. I just wish we get all the deals done in plenty of time before the window closes, not like the last two windows. when we've lost out. KK.

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01 Sep 2013 14:57:01
Face it. Felliani and Baines will be sold before the deadline and we won't buy anyone. fact! its going to be a long hard season

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Wow. That's optimistic! Get a grip!

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I doubt it because we won't have enough CM's so that won't happen.

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01 Sep 2013 14:44:41
All the players we are linked with have been bought or loaned out I don't think we we're ever linked with any off them seriousley it's was all talk everton do the same season on season with there surporters let them down as usual bk needs to wake up an sell the club new investment needed ASAP smaller clubs r spending more money than us it's sad to say this people but true come on bill do something about it pls

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01 Sep 2013 14:38:24
redrubbish are beating Man u and have just signed moses on loan, hope we move for Jeffren or Hosiner for a striker as two 0-0 in a row show we can defend but cannot score

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01 Sep 2013 14:20:48
Does anyone reckon a bid for rhodes would be any good.7-8mill and chuck vellios and duffy in on season long loans.i think blackburn may go for it. i'd also like moses on loan but looks like them across the park got there fingers out 1st to do a deal.

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I've got mates who a Blackburn fans and even they say Rhodes is too slow for the prem and doesn't have a good all round game

Albo

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And people moan about Kone.

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01 Sep 2013 14:16:16
If you think about it, we have spent about 8 mil this transfer window (Kone 6 mil, Joel 2 mil) do we actually have any more to spend? And if so does anyone know where it is from? Quite confused atm

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If we don't spend £20 mill tomorrow its a joke

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01 Sep 2013 13:58:53
As most of you have probably just seen Moses in the stands with Liverpools new signings


Slightly disappointed

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01 Sep 2013 13:58:29
MOses at anfield we mustn't of been in for him as we thought early reports said chelsea didn't want a loan deal.
Wasy

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01 Sep 2013 13:12:40
Am I the only one who has been left completely uninterested in our start to the season and transfer window. In a scary way I'm not even angry, I just am neutral. The board and club have given us nothing to get excited about re transfer dealings, and Martinez has done nothing to remotely excite the fans and it seems the players.
There is no fire in the belly of our club. Cardiff hold much fewer than we do but put Goodison to shame I'm terms of noise and passion.
The scary thing about all of this is that just going through the motions like we are doing as fans, players, manager and board will get us in trouble. We need a win or humiliating defeat to make everyone realise that the season has started and so far it is not up to standards, any of us, fans included.

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Have to agree with you svenny

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Ps this would never have happened under Vitor Pererea! Lol!

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Where's these two marquee signings you intimated we'd get Svenny? Or was that more guesswork and nonsense?

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01 Sep 2013 15:23:11
Vitor probably flew out as quick as he could when he seen our transfer budget lol

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My connection is with the board probably should learn to ignore what I hear from them

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01 Sep 2013 13:03:56
I think Deulofeu should be in the starting line up I would drop either Osman or pienar he looks as though he will win us games.

BlueWarrior. {Ed025's Note - certainly worth a shot mate..

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Yeahh, we should drop Ossie for him; push Mirallas into the middle, and bring Barkley back.

Barkley Gibson
Deulofeu Mirallas Pienaar
Jelavic(?)

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To be honest, I've thought that Mirallas has looked crap the first few games. Totally not up to speed and loses the ball far too much.

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01 Sep 2013 12:54:19
The Hashtag of #FreeShinji has been flying round on Twitter, not even on the bench vs Liverpool, we could include him in the deal or Hernandez would make me very happy.

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01 Sep 2013 12:42:24
I have always been a supporter of BK, but what is going on with our club, every team in the prem are signing players apart from us, even Hull and Norwich have signed decent players, yes we have been linked with plenty but nothing has happened it now appears the reds have signed Moses?
The only talk at Everton is about two of our better players leaving.
We where once a feared club top 4, top 6 team, I fear we are going to be left behind and once again in the doldrums scrapping it out with the also rans.
Bill please get things sorted and tell MU to put the cheque book away, our players are not for sale however much money they offer, and then get your own cheque book out.

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Got agree. I've supported BK throughout the years, but I am now getting sick of being treated like a charity shop that receives cast offs. Like BK I remember Dave Hickson, I also remember the days when no one would try and bully let alone patronise us into selling. Now we hear we're willing to sell two top players as long as we get a Manchester United reserve on loan for a season. WTF Kenwright. I'm now afraid but if Kenwright told me today is Sunday, I'd check the calendar. Fellaini and Baines will go tomorrow night with no time to replace. Kenwright the true blue, in the words of Jim Royal My A. e.

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01 Sep 2013 12:30:46
I think Martinez needs to grow a set of balls and drop Howard he doesn't like to play the short ball and were. He gets the ball he doesn't half panic.

Jags. Good defender needs to spend all week every week in his passing if we have any chance of this system working. Need a defender who can pass could try stones risk but confident in himself

Osman need to be dropped he too slow now and when caught in possession he cannot recover need a box to box midfielder with pace holtby

Pienaar needs to be dropped to show him work hard and play well because your place isn't guaranteed same goes for super kev. Could add Tom ince attitude but a good player who scores

A striker who scores and is intellegent as our build up play is slow and a striker with pace for the counter attacking games. Rhodes maybe Torres/lukaku on loan

And we need a better Bench some impact players in the mould of Royston drenthe not saying him but with his pace and directness

Thoughts

Wasy {Ed025's Note - seems like you dont like our team very much wasy!, howard has been fine for me mate, 2 clean sheets, and played the back 4 in whenever possible yesterday for me..

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We just need additions to the squad it might be the negativey surrounding the squad about the transfers just think Howard expects to stay no.1 for how ever long he wants. And I honestly don't see jags as a captain he's too nice not aggressive enough.

Wasy {Ed025's Note - lets get barton then wasy.. :)

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Agree about osman far to slow now .holding us back . but not his fault the manager picks the team.

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01 Sep 2013 12:26:56
I'm usually a positive chap, but I can't see us coming out of this window stronger.

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01 Sep 2013 12:25:40
we need a midfielder who can play that killer ball we are missing, eg Gibson can play a good pass but he's injury prone, this is a team I would like if felli was to go
4-2-3-1
Howard
Coleman, Buzz, Jags, Baines
?, Gibson
mirallas, Barkley, Peinaar
Jelavic

i know I put jelavic in because i'm not the manager but we need a striker who can score and need to make a few more signings in the midfield the Center isn't strong enough and osman doesn't cut it for me I would like barry or sissoko in there but beggers can't be choosers

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So your revolutionary new formation is exactly the same players but with a? instead of felli. I am awestruck how did you come up with this master plan?

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No because if you watch many of the time it drifts into a 4-4-2 martinez style with Mirallas coming into the inside

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And its a good formation I didn't say we did or didn't play it if you read the top we need a player who can set up goals be more creative than felli

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01 Sep 2013 12:24:51
Strange but the game yesterday was very similar to Barca V Atletico mid week. Barca had all of the possession whilst Atletico just defended and hit on the break.

It doesn't matter who you are if the opposition want to sit back and soak up all of the pressure, if they are effective then the likelihood is that they will get a point out of it.

As I said in a previous post though we need to hit the by-line and get behind them which we didn't do yesterday. {Ed025's Note - we had enough chances to win 3 games john, we need a striker mate..

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Your spot on Ed, the lack of a cutting edge up front needs addressing asap, we've got to start putting teams to bed, its ok having all the possession but its goals that win games.The longer it goes on then it becomes worrying.

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01 Sep 2013 11:45:07
if united was to swap rooney for mata, how would the sell on claus everton have on rooney be payed or does it get scrapped because no money was exchanged.

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01 Sep 2013 11:17:25
Ed wot do u think of the quality of Barry bannan? I'm unsure whether he is ideal but he would suit martines style because he can pass a ball. He is a cheap option if only as a squad player. Thoughts?? {Ed025's Note - im not a big fan to be honest mate..

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Bannan is similar to osman. But quicker and a better shot.

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01 Sep 2013 11:12:28
It must be bad when people are missing vic :(
Quinny

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01 Sep 2013 11:12:18
We never had any luck when Moyes was here, regarding referee decisions and it looks like its carrying on this season as well. Yesterday we had a blatant penalty turned down, but had we have got it then am sure it would have been a different result as Cardiff would have come out and attacked us instead of getting ten men behind the ball, and with our creative passing and possession am sure we would have put them to bed.

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01 Sep 2013 11:10:08
Kew81 Hear. RM needs to leave Defence alone get CDM who can hold & break up play, If LB moves on Burtrand would be a good replacement. The priority has to be PROVEN STRIKER (Defo) Will have a point to prove World cup year too can only push him harder! C'mon BK & RM Get us the goal scorer we need NOW! Mik Blue nose

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01 Sep 2013 12:04:50
defoe will be in world cup squad anyway england have no strikers and he is rubbish i'd rather spend 6m on rhodes

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01 Sep 2013 11:04:56
I really wonder how many people who post on here, actually go to games?. although I have blue running through my veins, I want . no demand to be entertained, apart from the 2nd half at Norwich, and 15 mins yesterday, it is poor value for money at the moment. including season tickets for me and my son, approaching 1200 pounds spent home and away already. I've worked out that I need 3000 to cover this season. it ain't cheap, I'll give him till Xmas, playing this possession game if its still the same results wise. I'll drop the away trips. ENTERTAIMENT PLEASE. Even if we do lose the odd game Mr Martinez.

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You clearly don't know what you are talking about - stick to fifa and shoot annuals

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Season ticket holder for over 30 years, many an away game too including a year without a single away win.
I love what RM is doing he is making us play football instead of the crash bang wallop knockdown rubbish that we've relied on during the Round era. What RM is proving is that we had the players to play better football than we did.
He seems to have sorted us out defensively too.
What is more is we are seeing younger players starting to flourish and play like young players, rather than have any adventure in their play drilled out of them.
You only had to look at the reaction of our opponents managers to see how happy they were just to take a point of us.

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01 Sep 2013 11:04:15
does anyone else think we should include Chicharito in the Felli deal if he goes

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Yes I would take £15mill and hernandez all day long

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01 Sep 2013 10:58:53
i have heard from one of the sales team from goodisoneverton have given utd a fee and terms of what they expect for the wig and have told then baines isn't for sale.

I think the major problem we have not having a world class striker. Our forwards lack both the skill and pace to run the forward line alone. I do believe if we changed to minimum two upfront our results would improve.

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Your crazy. When big wig up top we tend to just lump it and mays well not have a midfield

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How much is a crazy? I think I might buy one if they're cheap enough?

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01 Sep 2013 10:58:42
To me, we have lost a massive therat to goal by playing fellaini deep, Barkley has been impressive nut I would prefer hi to be a CM and a put fellaini further up. We need more attacking players.

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01 Sep 2013 10:45:09
If we sell baines, we will need to replace his creativity.

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01 Sep 2013 10:41:40
I will be pissed off if we let anichibe go. He has been rubbish, and we have kept hold and waited. He has one decet season and now can't even make the bench. If you haven't got a prolific striker, big vic is the next best thing as his hold up play is excellant, and he brings others into play in the danger areas. Kone looks like a poor mans yakubu (respect to the Yak) while jelavic does nothing. absolutely nothing! He just gets lost, and when we do find him he will give the ball away or if we are luck make a simple pass deep in the park. Get him and Naismith out of here. {Ed025's Note - i think vic may be injured mate..

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I hope so.

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I've been a fan of big Vic for years. And just like you said the way the lad holds the ball is awesome, plays with a much older head on his shoulders (at times)

I would sooner lash Jelavic and Kone for being over priced and over paid pieces of fecal matter, Vic is one of us and should be held up as a example. the lad could of walked away so many times after being frozen out but has stayed ture to us.

shame on all who knock him

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Victor averages 3 goals a season and you will be pissed of if he goes.how about this then let's keep baines play him up front as he scores more than the prolific vic and sign a new left back problem solved. by the way its hull after vic big big club.

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01 Sep 2013 10:31:33
Reading the papers and we are meant to bet letting baines and fellani go for 36 million as long as we get kind grad on loan, I have backed kenwright but if he let's these players go on the cheap I would like to think we have better targets than Gareth Barry. We have now gone from a team in the top 6 to a bottom half team. Well done kenwright for once again bending over and having no spine and let utd do what they want. Long hard season a head.

Jc {Ed025's Note - your a bit premature there jc, only 3 games in mate!..

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I know ed and it ain't like me I just can't see us scoring, other lower teams spending money getting players, if we go 1 or 2 down how do you see us getting back into the game. {Ed025's Note - i dont mate, thats why i think we need to make a striker our priority..

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01 Sep 2013 10:10:31
I for one think that we are going to flourish under Martinez. Four games in and we are still unbeaten, even though the team are playing in a totally different way this year and are still trying to get to grips with the system. On yesterday's performance, in my opinion, if we were to get a decent fee for Fellaini then he should go. Barkley is showing already that he's going to be the difference this year. Everything positive we created yesterday, he had a hand in it. If we get a new striker with the Fellaini cash and a new centre midfielder to replace Fellaini and I think we are in good shape

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01 Sep 2013 10:00:03
After holding out for so long, surely we can hold on for 1 more day. Would be devastated in they both left. Need a creative midfielder and a proven goalscorer. Defoe would be perfect.

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Que Sera, Sera.

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01 Sep 2013 09:51:41
Whoever comes or goes it has been a crap summer once again, the promise that money was available and all the talk of a marquee signing as yet hasn't happened, instead we have the usual prospect of losing one or maybe two best players at the end of the transfer window and probably replaced by players who not even half as good if replaced at all. I don't normally knock Kenwright and his merry men but this summer for me has highlighted how grim our chairman and his merry men. Same ols same old. {Ed025's Note - its not over till its over mate, lets reserve judgement till tomorrow night hey..

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We've lived beyond our means for years, so it's no surprise that we now can't spend the TV money like other clubs.

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What did u expect with bill kenwright .hes sells are best players always has and always will .

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01 Sep 2013 08:30:03
some proper persons on fb last night calling for RM to be sacked. We may not have won yesterday but we totally dominated the game and a draw away is not a bad result against a team that turned man city over last week. Fact is we need a striker. {Ed025's Note - spot on mate, for me a striker is the priority, people calling for bobbys head are way off the mark, 3 games in, they cant be real evertonians mate..

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1984-1985 we won 1 of our first 4 games and that was against chelsea who in those days were no bigger than palace are now. Good job we didn't get shut of HK wasn't it.

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01 Sep 2013 08:14:56
Lots of people are linking us with a defender but I think we desperately need a better 15m striker. Jelavic and kone are not good enough. Two nill- nils show this COYB very interesting couple of days for Everton

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Agree Jamie. But who?

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Thats what i'm worried about. We moght not be able to attract the top players.

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At this point, last day of the window, rhodes from blackburn

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01 Sep 2013 03:17:03
Who ever comes or goes, there must be something in the "big" plan to bring in a proven goal poacher, even if we have to look at a smaller country. My personal preference, if we are going to let big top join unt, would be to say 18m + hernandes, the man may be happy to play lots of games, rather than the odd run out in the capital cup.

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01 Sep 2013 01:22:39
Ed025, and all fellow Blues, dodgy ish start to the season, fair enough, but I reckon that with what we've averaged so far, possession wise 65 per cent, then hopefully a change of fortunes is just around the corner, a little bit of luck in front of goal and the whole team performing better in front of goal too, then maybe results will improve greatly. My main point for this post though is a question to all readers, is Kevin Miralles as good as everyone seems to think he is, or do people think, like me, that he needs to up his game, because personally, I think he's got the ability but he doesn't show enough consistency, he goes missing for large parts of a game. I hope i'm wrong fellas, obviously, but I haven't seen enough, regularly, to say he's worthy of improving our fortunes. As I say, I hope i'm wrong, but surely we need to see more?

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I saw Kev made wrong decision while he's got chance only. He 's got to improve our game not our fortune.

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Totally agree with OP, so far this season mirellas hasn't turned up, looks off the pace and his décision making has been pants, he needs à kick up the arse, he's not as good as he thinks, and form me the jurys Still out {Ed025's Note - apparently dortmund and another club have been sounding him out 60, i just hope he is not another one who,s head has been turned mate..

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Mirallas defo needs to up his game but also jelavic and kone. I think Jelavic may do better with deufolou (whatever) as he puts the type of balls in Jelavic would get on. {Ed025's Note - at the moment, jelly could,nt hit a bulls arse with a banjo!...we need a predator of high calibre for me..

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That's a shame if true ed, he is a Dortmund kind of player, hidden gem who gets better {Ed025's Note - not much of a gem if he strolls around like yesterday clarkey!..players have got to want to play for the shirt mate, hes a cracking player, but no one is bigger than the club..

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The obvious candidate for the striker job is Defoe, who may not want to leave London. however the world cup is approaching and if he wants to get in the England team he needs games and goals and he'd get both with us.

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01 Sep 2013 01:15:56
Guys. I think we all have to chill, trust RM and enjoy what he is trying to do.
We haven't lost in PL. Bonus. Lots of nil nillers today.
Roberto is not stupid. He knows where we have issues and BK needs to back him.
Me personally I would like to see the mop and bainsey stay. Felli gives us a different option.
I like RM. He is passionate and speaks about Everton as if he has been with us for years. Hang in their guys and back him.
We are Everton. We stick.with our own. Have faith.

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I couldn't agree more. I'm really positive about RM I think he's already done a lot in a short space of time. At some point the chances will go in. Given the media circus created by DM i'm amazed we are unbeaten.

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01 Sep 2013 00:20:54
Hiya ed. So here we go, two days of touture, hope your ready because I'm not! Dreading it, I plan to stay away from the news and hope by Tuesday morning we still have Baines, not fussed with Fellaini, I think he has wanted to go for a while but stayed purely because of Moyes.
Heard were getting Barry and are likely to go for Mcarthey. Good players, although Barry? Unsure on him, never really rated him, would like to see a striker though.
Just remember one thing blues. Players come and go, Everton will always remain along with us great fans.

Stay positive lads and speak to you all Tuesday morning! Hopefully none of us have gone into a deep depression or worse!

COYB

MikeTheBlue

1878 The Cities First

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We'll be ok Mike, just think happy thoughts fur 2 days mate.

COYB
Toffee ace

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01 Sep 2013 00:16:45
Ok the only way were going to afford a 20 goal a season striker is take a chance on a up and coming striker in a lesser European league my choice Hoisner. Any eds or blues have any other shouts bearing in mind were not going to spend more than 5-10m at most on one player.

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If we sell Baines and fellani we could afford more than a £15M player

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Sorry I meant more than £10M

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01 Sep 2013 00:12:05
Had to stop myself posting earlier after the game when my emotions were still raw, furious with the officials, furious with the players and furious with the tactics.

I've had time to calm down and think logically, we all agree that the officials were terrible today. Some of the players need a kick up the ass, they need a reality check, some have become so used to being in the side because of our small squad that shuffling it up a little might light a fire, Super Kev looks lost atm, Ozzi jus is not the same player from last season, Jellyman couldn't buy a goal and we need to tell kone tht he's a striker and that he should at all times be the furthest player up the park, not 25 yards behind the play. Barkley has been fantastic but we need to give him a break, atm we seem to be placing all our hopes on him. But I've faith they will all come good, because form is temporary and class is permanent.

Tactics wise, if we can just put a little more energy and pace into our passing game I think we could destroy teams.

Now to the transfer saga, I do NOT want to lose the Fro and Bainsy, but if they go I wish them well, they have been great servants for the club, and maybe, just maybe its time for change, we've become too relient on the left side, if we can get 4-5 players in and take the team in a different direction well who knows were it will take us, after all we've huffed and puffed in previous season with the current players and we havn't quite gotten over the finish line, sometimes change is good.

All in all I think it'll be an exciting transfer deadline day at Goodison, I've even taken the day off work, and remember everyone, NOBODY, I repeat NOBODY is bigger than our club, players will always come and go, and whoever is wearing the blue when we face Chelsea in 2 weeks time will get all our full support, because that's who we are, WE ARE EVERTON, and proud!

IMWT
COYB
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Kurajan

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Agree with most of your post but giving Barkley a break?.We've only played four games.

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01 Sep 2013 00:10:52
Put pre season aside why has everyone slated kone already but he has only played half hour or so from bench for us give him a fair crack of the whip for gods sake if we go and beat Chelsea next I would like to see reactions then I'm sure it will be different to the posts at moment

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31 Aug 2013 23:57:16
Go and get Jordan Rhodes he is a fox in the box will get goals no he is untried in prem but could be a risk worth taking he knows where the net is that's for sure reminds me bit of shearer if he does not score he makes the keeper work as his shots always hit the target, he is young and always seems to be in box in right place he would of scored 2 if he was playing today 1 where Jelavic was put through and 2 when delefaue sorry bout spelling whipped it across face of goal and no one gambled he would of as he is a predator I would pay 10 million for him get him we need goals we have outplayed 3 teams created chances and not converted them

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