Everton Banter Archive August 20 2013

 

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20 Aug 2013 23:51:21
Anybody else rate Adam Lallana of Southampton? Quite versatile and an Evertonian too! {Ed025's Note - good player IMO..

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Good player but I don't think that Everton would be a step up from Saints this moment in time and in the foreseeable future as they have tons of money and are only going to get better and better.

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20 Aug 2013 23:48:57
Sorry ed not a rumour but a question. Please like if you'd prefer to see felli go but keep bainsey. Me personally, I think felli is class but he just doesn't show it enough through the season and think someone slightly less talented but more hungry would be better for the team. {Ed025's Note - i would like to keep them both mate..

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20 Aug 2013 23:11:27
If spurs by willian then why don't we bid for defoe at 6m bargain

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Willian isn't a striker, though. So I doubt they'd sell him.

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*Sell Defoe, that is.

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Defoe will be off to West Ham

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21 Aug 2013 21:38:27
defoe is crap and will stay in london i'd rather have kevin phillips than defoe same as rooney situation so let me clear this up *ahem* THEY ARE NOT COMING HERE AND THANK GOD FOR THAT

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20 Aug 2013 22:55:38
Isn't it about time we got behind our existing squad. If Roberto has said no one is coming in or hinted at this then that's a good indication that our prize assets ate staying.
40 million or not to sell the pair? My attitude is we should be adding to our existing squad and strengthening, not selling to then blood new players, not at this stage. We should be adding to our already strong squad to push on. All this off field stuff is a distraction.
My only critisism of BK and board is that we should say our players are not for sale or just slam an outrageous fee on the table that nobody would want them!
Transisition season? Perhaps, but I for one want our squad to do talking on pitch and have a team that had a plan B when the A plan isn't working.
Felli and Baines can win games by themselves at times with momments of magic so why the hell do we want to sell?
Come on guys and girls let's keep what we've got and make noises to add decent players not sell. {Ed025's Note - i agree AW mate..

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Forgot to day that I just read the delightful Chelsea manager has stated that his main competition this year will be
Man C
Man U
Arsenal
Spurs
Liverpool

Just another reason to keep our squad together, strengthen and rain on Mourinios parade!

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Financially speaking he is quite right. When we start spending like those teams then we might be talked about in the same terms.

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Financially speaking, Arsenal have spent FA.

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Financially speaking the above teams don't spend a penny, it's their owners Arabs Russians Yanks etc etc
Andy The Chef

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21 Aug 2013 21:40:26
giggs just said the same thing said city, chelsea, arsenal will challenge and spurs and liverpool will be up there too

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20 Aug 2013 19:55:41
I signed up because for a while I couldn't be bothered adding my name but I'm back. Hope you can contain your excitement.

Anyway would anyone take 24m and Powell for Fellaini think Powell and Barkley could develop into something special for club and country just imagine a few years down the line

Powell-Ludstrum-Barkley
COYB IMWT

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Unfortunately the only place you will see that is at United, if Barkley turns out to be decent, just like Rodwell and Rooney, we won't be able to refuse an offer for him. same old stuff.

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Cheer up will you

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IF Barkley turns out to be decent?. looks pretty decent to me already!

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20 Aug 2013 19:09:06
hi ed did you see tim howard on sky sport news good interview about fellie and baines about them taking it all in there stride and training as normal and how they love playing for everton might be right about baines but not fellie {Ed025's Note - i never seen it stevie, but good info mate..cheers..

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20 Aug 2013 18:47:40
From a Manchester United fan on their site simply unbelievable.


I cannot stand the way in which Mourinho is going about the chase of Rooney. Is it blatant tapping up? is he just trying to unsettle Rooney and Moyes? Or does he really want the player? Either way, unlike many, I cannot stand him as a manager and hate the way in which he works. glad he never came to united as its not the right way to do things.

Nozzla

Mike-ds {Ed025's Note - un-bloody-believable..

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He has a point though. You would never get the great Manchester United or the honourable david moyes trying to tap up players or unsettle players. They have never or will never do this. People who claim they do should be ashamed of themselves.

Mike {Ed025's Note - still need to get out more mikey.. :)

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Having a nose on their rumours site the Mancs aren't that impressed with the prospect of Fellaini or Baines, and def not for the price etc .

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UNT have a record of bending the rules which is off the scale, they run the prem, and have the FA crapping themselves, it is time they were stopped.

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20 Aug 2013 16:58:48
just a thought what's happening with the new stadium sites and how could we afford to build it if we can only afford 8mill to back our new manager to take us to the next level

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Just because we've only spent £8m so far, it doesn't mean we've used all our budget. RM said, on film and online, that he will take his time.

There's still 2 weeks left. That's plenty of time to spend the rest of our budget (which, believe me, will, be more than £8m).

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Laughable that you think 8m will take as to the next level.

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All this stick towards utd and moyes is embarrassing to evertonions .this is all about bill kenwright and his mindset of running everton .David moyes knows how kenwright works, this great relationship they had is being laid bare by moyes .the next 12, days will tell us all about are chairman .135 years of our history of what are crest used to say is at stake .if we sell sell both of these players bill kenwright needs to be ousted as our chairman, Anyone who says otherwise is not fit to wear an everton shirt . Our club is based on class and integrity and most importantly wanting the best team on the the pitch . we don't need a chairman we can't trust especially one who has proclaimed to be one of us {Ed025's Note - i tell you whats embarrassing..someone sticking up for a club who,s scruples resemble that of a sewer rat!, and support for an ex manager who is trying to stiff us!..

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20 Aug 2013 15:31:20
Fellis worth 35m in this market he's in the elite few who can combine giant physical presence with fantastic control and natural ability him and yaya toure are the only players in the prem who can do it all

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Fellaini is very different to Yaya Toure. Toure is a player who can turn, change speed and, more importantly, run through midfield like there's nothing in his way.

Felli, on the other hand, is a player is very good at what he does, even though he stays in a certain position. Because he has little pace, he stays in the area he is playing and dictates the game using his certain skills. For example, if he plays in midfield, he'll recieve the ball and play it on to a different player, but at times he'll keep the ball for a few moments (which is possible due to his strength) giving other players the chance to move into better positions. In essence, as a midfielder Felli just sits there and lays the ball on to provide better attacking prowess. And defensively, still in a midfield role, he can use his strength to get close to an attacker which puts the attacker under pressure as well as keeping him in a certain place, but if he gets turned, other players are there to help out because he has kept the attacker there (unless he tackles him himself of course).

However, in a forward role, Felli uses his strength to get in front of the defender so that he gets first to the ball. Once with the ball he uses his supreme touch (chest or feet) to bring it down and move on from there (which is dangerous to defenders as that is generally in the penalty area, so close the their goal). He also uses his areal prowess to win 9x% of headers in the 18 yardrs box. He is sort of like a magnet in a "must get the ball upfront now" situation as you know you can play the long ball and he will pretty much suck the ball back to the ground but in a far more dangerous position. It's like having an automatic route to the feet of your players in the opponents 18 yard box. And, of course, the long ball can be used to put the ball to Felli's head for a flick on. Basically, when played in a forward role, Felli is, in one word: unplayable.

Toure is different to Felli because of their different, but somehow similar, attributes. I think if Felli had pace, he could be a player exactly like Toure (running through midfields like a boss)

One player who I know is like Toure is Diaby - who is too injury prone.

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Got to be honest op felli can't beat a man weres as yaya can run threw defences at ease, similar postions different styles

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20 Aug 2013 13:57:01
I think we'll know more on Saturday. The major thing will be whether they (LB, MF) start against WBA (that is assuming they haven't been sold by then).

This is just too much to deal with, what with it being results day on Thursday. Just bring on the 3rd Sept.

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20 Aug 2013 13:25:07
After reading Roberto's comments on OS I don't think we will have any further players coming in during the transfer window.
"But I don't believe in getting involved in the transfer window when the games are underway and we are in a very, very important moment of our season."

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20 Aug 2013 13:07:06
RM says he does not expect another approach from MU for LB and MF; we'll see. I don't think we've heard the last of this yet.
GingerBlue

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20 Aug 2013 13:04:12
People seem to be saying they don't mind Fellaini going if Man U pay £25-30M. I think we are still vastly under rating him.

He is an extra Central Defender at corners in both boxes, he has an engine as big as anyone's in the league. He battles. He stops teams playing. He links our play going forward. He scores goals on the floor as well as with his 'fro. He's been a colossus in so many games in recent seasons, City, Man Utd, Chelsea away. Moyes said he is the best central midfielder in the league when he is on form and I agree.

Who could we realistically get to replace that power and presence? There is noone in the PL to replace him nor can I think of any european player that even comes close - ok possibly Mertesacker. Bearing in mind we don't want to sell, he has no release clause and he is a one off - £25M would be an absolute snip.

People are saying McCarthy, are they mad? He's a decent young player but he doesn't bring to the team what the big man does. I would pay through the nose to see the guy terrorising Man U again - can anyone see McCarthy having that sort of impact?

If his head has been turned then we may have no choice but it will be a sad day for me :-(

Oh and if Gareth Barry joins us I will be crying into my beer. Turning circle of a bus and slower than my gran.

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Mertesaker?

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20 Aug 2013 12:08:47
Hi Lads United fan in peace just wanted to understand a few things. I understand you're not happy with the way Moyes left and that he's coming back for 2 of your best players. However I don't understand why all this fury towards United as we've made a bid (all bit a very low one) for Baines and Fellani. Everybody knows there will be more bids to follow and you're free to say no to them all if you like. We're doing the same thing with Fatboy at the moment.
If I was an Everton fan i'd be more pissed off with Kenwright for not saying they are not for sale any price if you all want to keep them that much. Fair price 40 million for the pair which by 2nd Sept you will probably get any way. However you can always say no! {Ed025's Note - please refer to my answer on everton rumours 19Aug-2013 22;25;49 cheers..

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Let's trial mate. 1m. for RVP. If not enough I will fax you 2m. offer again next day.

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OK let's trail like you say

No to both of you're bids and no to any future bids as he's not for sale.
Quite simply really!

Only your board/Kenwright haven't said that which means only one thing. they are both for sale.

Which brings me back to my point you should be more annoyed with Kenwright!

K-Stand Red

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Calm down mate. Even BK. has never said "Not For Sale" but also never said "Accept All Prices". Start respect people, people will respect you. Unless some day you will hear "Accept All Offer Except From MU".

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20 Aug 2013 15:04:15
every player has a price, as you have seen with bale. If Real came in with a bid of £40Mill for RVP I'm sure you'd accept it. let's just leave it at that. The main problem we have is that Manchester United have offered well under the given asking price for our best players. I'm sure if Manchester United came in and offered first time £25-£30 Mill for fellaini and £20-£25 Mill for baines, they would both be Manchester United players by now. Taking an average of what many would believe, myself included, as true valuations of these players of £50 Million for the pair, Manchester United were well short of the offer with £28Mill bid. Understand?!. CRAIGHUYTONBLUE

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Why be annoyed with BK? He hasn't sold them yet. And as for not for sale, every player has a price, except for maybe Messi.
We can hardly come our and say not for sale then Utd offer £50m. It would look foolish. One thing's is crystal clear though, they're not for sale at £28m nor anything as derisory.
Offer near what they're worth and perhaps the bid(s) will be afforded the time of day, £28m is laughable. Somewhere between £40-42m and it may show moyes and united have more moral fibre than a sun journalist.

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K. The problem is that when you say not for sale at any price, you then get the player slapping in a transfer request just like what happened to your manager and joleon lescott. There is no point saying not at any price because with players and agents having so much power you have to give in

Just like the reason fat boy as you call him gets paid 250k a week. Which not even your old manager could do anything about.

COYB
Toffee ace

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No offence K Stand Our Chairman may have his faults and he may not be perfect. But he has kept our club where we belong year after year and avoided the financial mess your club found itself in due to poor management.

So you will have to forgive us if we ignore your thoughts on our Chairman and who is to blame for what. Perhaps your time may be better spent getting your own house in order.

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Every player is for sale at any club chairmen or managers who come out and say this is wrong no matter which player you have they have there sell price even messi if some rich club came an offered 2/3/4 hundred million they would sell everyone has there price

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WtG

Don't want to start an argument and some of you guys have some points I agree with but i've heard it all now that Everton fan can actually believe they're are better run and in a better financial position than Man United. Even with the Glaziers debt we're hardly struggling are we!

K-stand Red

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According to several sources moyes wanted to put a £30m release clause in Fellaini's contract but settled for £23.5m yet he now comes back with a ridiculous £28m for not one but two. Pathetic little man, believes his own hype.
Can you now see why it's so insulting K?

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CRAIGHUYTONBLUE

You see that's where you're wrong a £40 million bid would get Madrid no where unless of course Rvp says he wants to go. He won us the league last season so what's the point in selling him!

K-Stand Red

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Yeah ok I suppose I see that point about him wanting to put a £30 mill buy out and then offering £18 and why you would find insulting. You have rejected it though and the next one will be higher so I suppose your problem is more with Moyes

K-Stand Red

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If Utd thought £40m was a good price for a 29-30 year old then RVP wouldn't have any say in the matter, he'd be in his way.

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K Stand;
See what happens to your debt if you don't get into the Champions League next season.

Also what's the difference to us not selling Fellaini and Baines for a laughable fee to you not selling Rooney to a rival for a more realistic fee.

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Gosporttrueblue

There's no difference with the Rooney situation other than Rooney won't be sold to any club in England but I believe your 2 will. So it's back to my original point you should be more annoyed with the board if bids are eventually accepted.

K-stand Red

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You bet my problem is with David 'Everton sell very expensively; that's what we do' Moyes.
Re Lescott 'The way it has been handled is disgusting and all it has done is disrupted our club, ’ ‘Most clubs have a price for a player. The offers were not big enough.’
He's a bare faced, hypocritical liar.

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20 Aug 2013 18:05:34
don't mind if bids are accepted as long as they reach the amount that the players are truely worth and are not too near the transfer deadline. As I said every player has a sale price, baines as good as he is, is not going to stay 29 forever and will slowly decline in ability, fellaini is replaceable again as good as he is, we could use the cash wisely to purchase 3 players with that sort of money £45-50 mill within 7 days time would fit the bill, otherwise forget it as the amount either would not be enough or it would be too close to the deadline to re sign players to replace those that leave. CraigHuytonBlue

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I take your points lads and very well put.
One other thing though let's say the bids, whatever they are, get accepted. The Everton board is aware right now if they are going to sell or not so regardless of when they happen e.g deadline day. They should have replacements ready/lined up if you do sell?
The 1st bid for baines was 6 weeks ago and the fellani bid was possibly expected.

K-Stand Red

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K stand,

You may wish to dream about how big a club and how well off you are, despite the fact that you are in debt to the tune of £307 Million of which you have recently refinance £178 Million of to a variable interest rate, to try and cut costs thanks to your owners, this move has cut your yearly interest payments from £71 Million to £61 million, so long of course as the interest rates remain in your favour. But as your net profit is around £60 Million more keeping your head above water than a well run business. Thanks to the fact that your club is paying for the Glaziers to own it!

The question you should be asking is where are your top signings this year, the ones you so desperately need? Ronaldo? Lots of talk no bid, Bale? Lots of talk and no bid, Fabregas? Top end of £30 Million. (laughed away) Now you are down to trying to get our two for £28 Million. See a pattern here? Maybe that is all you have to spend this window, 30 Million seems to be the magic figure, perhaps that is why you did not get a top manager to replace SAF?

The fact is the size of your club does not dictate how well or badly run it is as with any business. Gross turnover, minus overheads equals profit, or what is available to re-invest. Thus realistically if interest rates sky rocket or you fail to make the top four this year, big problems for United. If either happens it does not affect Everton one iota.

If you think you are better run from a business perspective than Everton, good for you, but do not think you have to right to tell me or any other Everton fan to blame Bill Kenwright for the fact that United are unwilling or unable to put a sensible offer in for two of our players.

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All I can say is utd will not ever be champions again and will finish 3rd or 4th. City and chelses will rip u apart

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Swap deal felli and baines to utd rooney and hernandez other way

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20 Aug 2013 12:09:37
Right, no one else seems to be saying it so I will. It's a high probability that we will lose both of these players. Not certain but more than likely. The club have not come out and said that they are not for sale all's they have done is say the offer was disrespectful. This to me smacks of "come back with a sensible offer and we'll talk" United issued a NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE over Rooney, rubbish did over the chinchilla and most other clubs will come out and say that if they have no intention of selling. We never.

No this doesn't automatically mean we are looking to sell but let's all put our hearts aside for one minute and be honest and sensible about it. We're skint, we need money and the only assets we have left are the ones on the pitch. It's time for us all to face up and realise that we have no financial clout and we live on the bread line and we probably don't even break even every year and unfortunately if we have to sell to stay afloat then we will. The board will do what's rright by the club and none of us have any idea what's really going on behind the scenes.

Then we get to the players, if you were them could you honestly say you would not want to go. Forget it being Everton, say you played for Villa or Newcastle or anyone and then United came knocking on the door. Bigger contract, more money, champions league football a trophy cabinet full of winners medals and so on. Would you really stay? This is Baines last shot at a move and playing champs league football if he stays now he stays for good.

We will be fine if they go, the club will carry on like it always does. Yes it will be disappointing and I'll be as gutted as the next blue but no players are bigger than the club. If they want to go let them go and let's move forward with players who want to play for us.

It won't be the end of the world people, in 12-18 months time they'll be forgotten about. remember Lescott. Arteta? A lot bigger and better than Baines and the wig have graced the Old Lady and gone and we're still here today.

COYFBB!!!!!!!!

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It's not so much them going its the manner in wich our ex manager is treating our club he helped turn these lads into international players and has previously spoken of there worth so after stitching us up on his own deal to the mancs he now wants our prized assets on the cheap any deal has to be on our terms and should involve at least one player coming the other way
I would take henandez

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Good post Paddock. While I agree with most of what you say I am not altogether sure the finance side is as bad as it may seem on the surface. We simply do not do our laundry in public like a lot of other teams do. If BK and RM say we do not need to sell then I have no reason to not believe them. Plus if we do have some spare money it is good business to let the rest of the World think we are skint when it comes to negotiating with other teams for players.

As for not coming out and sticking a not for sale at any price tag on the lads concerned. Well I do see everyone's point, however, we need to think about this from the Everton perspective. Utd have done it with Rooney, as have the dark side, but they have bigger squads than we do and could put up with either of the players involved having a sulk. If either Baines of the Wig want to leave we will realistically need to replace them ASAP as having them sulk and give half hearted performances till say the New Year window could well be a disaster for us.

If they do go fair enough, I expected the Wig to go at any time for the last 18 months, and to be honest I would not begrudge Baines his chance to shine on the European stage, of course I would have loved him to do so in an Everton shirt but if that is not to be then so be it, good luck to him.

My gripe is with the actual amount of the bid, yes they will no doubt come back with higher ones, however, it will be dragged out until near deadline day, which again could be a disaster waiting to happen if we can not replace them. Moyes of all people know this as do Utd. It is not just disrespectful it is totally calculating in terms of the damage it could cause to Everton FC.

My thoughts on this are simple, if Utd want these two players, put up an acceptable offer, then let the players decide if they want to stay or go, we can replace if we need to and we all move forward.

It is all about the timing for me, they have left it late and do not seem to have other targets to go for, which does suggest they will be back with another offer. This could have been done much earlier in the window, and that is my gripe with Moyes.

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20 Aug 2013 12:07:31
The last few days have fuelled my dislike of all things Manchester. Even the Corrie storyline! I'm sure that Lloyd was in more danger in that pub 'cos of his accent rather than his colour! So, I was on a downer on all things Manc. Then I opened my Daily Mirror this morning & saw those pics of Melanie Sykes in her skimpies, Ah well.life's too short to hold grudges! {Ed025's Note - love it tezza..

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20 Aug 2013 11:38:41
Right we have seen all teams play, we're do all in your heads not your heart think we will finish. also let's here your top 3 and bottom 3. no stupid ones please. Myself I think we are capable of at least 6th maybe better if we keep LB, However if we don't I see 10th, that is the class he is IMO. MAN CITY top, Chelsea 2nd and I think Arsenal will get it together 3rd. Palace won't get 26 points, bottom, Cardiff 2nd to bottom, and Newcastle 3rd to bottom, a bunch of individuals plus joe kinnear will send them down for me. {Ed025's Note - chesea..city..utd, top3....in that order.....sunderland..hull..palace..18th 19th 20th..

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You sure you didn't pluck them out of my head Ed? I'm not brown nosing but that's exactly what I think will be the outcome.
Goes to show you do know a little bit after all despite refusing to acknowledge moyes would have had any input into the bid. {Ed025's Note - this ball on my shoulders is not just a hat rack mate!.. :)

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20 Aug 2013 11:30:30
Dont want to sell either but a few idea's if we do for £40m+

Eriksen from Ajax £15m
McCarthy from Wigan £12m
Alderwerield £5m

I would be prepared to sell Felliani for £25m
and buy Alderwerield and Eriksen from Ajax for £20m

If pushed I would sell Baines for £20m but not a penny less.

Just my thoughts
Toffeepaul

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Sell felli buy Eriksen and mcarthy job done

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20 Aug 2013 11:24:55
Club statement should read

We are not willing to sell our best players to Manchester United period. By best players we mean anyone who plays for Everton FC So please take your pathetic offers to other clubs. Oh you already have.

Now Piss Off and don't come back

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20 Aug 2013 10:30:23
The only way IMHO that Baines and/or Fellaini will leave is if RM believes he can use the money to improve the overall team/squad in the medium-to-longer term whatever the detrimental short-term effect might be. I'm sure we don't have to sell because of pressure from our creditors. As many have said, the comparatively short time left in the window doesn't allow for finalising incoming transfers given the intricacies of modern deals. I'm sure we won't sell if we can't bring in other good enough players - unless our players force their moves by asking to leave.

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Why would we sell 2 of our best players for stupid money then have yo pay over the odds for replacements that are not as good also wigan want 15m for Macarthy so 30 for fellaini right in my opinion I don't think they will budge on price and he is a championship player

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20 Aug 2013 09:25:38
Hey guys, loving all the banter about our former manager but could we stop using the term 'ginger' as part of the abuse please? Some of us are, or have loved ones who are ginger and don't forget that our greatest ever player Alan Ball was of the ginger persuasion as well.
Cheers folks,
GingerBlue {Ed025's Note - i dont think its meant in a a derogatory way mate, his gingerness was a term of endearment when he was here, its just an identification mark, as in someone who is grey being called a silver fox, or someone fair being a blonde bombshell..

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I appreciate that Ed its just it seems to be used a lot to reinforce other insults such as ginger rat, ginger tosser etc. I don't want to come across as a killjoy and really am loving the site and the banter but you wouldn't use a persons race or disability to reinforce an insult. Please don't take my post the wrong way, the term ginger itself isn't insulting its just when its used to add weight to the following word.
Cheers,
GB {Ed025's Note - i see your point mate, and will take it into consideration on future posts..

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Cheers Ed, thanks for your time, top bloke.
GB

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Cheer up it'll soon be Saturday

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But I always tread gingerly in my choice of language - does this mean that's not allowed anymore?
Happy-Camper {Ed025's Note - thats borderline.. :)

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And I can't wait mate, the team looks lean and hungry and the pitch looks pristine. It's been a long time since May, here's to 3 points from the Baggies, COYB!
GingerBlue

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Does this mean we can't call the darkside's boss "Ginger Rodgers" because of the way he carefully danced around the Suarez situation?
Unhappy-Camper {Ed025's Note - thats ok..

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20 Aug 2013 09:21:44
Just want to state a couple of things.

Kenwrights press conference with Martinez stated we are aiming for champions league - correct?

Kenwright also stated he will give Martinez a few quid to spend on players - correct?

£6m is not a few quid that gets you champions league football or anywhere near - correct?

Selling two of your best players last minute is not what a team aiming for champions league would even think about doing - correct?

You do not sell to your rivals if you consider yourself possible champions league contenders - correct?

My point is this - are we a striving club aiming for that top four finish or are we a selling club that are content with survival and mid table?

These are the times that we need to say "NO! we will not give you our best players, we are ambitious and aiming to better you"

Baz

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Correct.

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Good shout baz, it's all about bill kenwright .got a feeling felliani will go, but must keep baines

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Any club should not be selling players if they cannot go out and get replacements before the window closes.

The exception to this is if silly money is offered, example, Chelsea for Torres and Liverpool for Andy carrol.

IMO silly money for Baines and Fellaini = £40m+

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20 Aug 2013 08:19:22
I said some time ago, BK is only concerned about the board and himself, how much money he can turn over into the BV account. David M knows his weakness and if he makes the carrot big enough he will bite, last weeks bid was just stupid, however if they come in at 33 million this week, it's still under, but you just watch, sometime next week. 37-38 million will be collected, and I have said in the past will sell these two, and I've been shot down. Don't trust BK, that's the bottom line, the man has made fortunes out of EFC, the dame will be doing the same again here. we are already looking at loan players to plug the gaps. Same old with BK, the man is always pulling the wool over our eyes, and loads the guns with bullets for other people to fire, when we lose our two best players, we will be lucky to hit 50 points. very deflated now, I did think that we may keep them, how stupid that was. {Ed025's Note - bit unfair that biffy, ok hes not the richest chairman, but he is trying to compete with these billionaires who can throw money around like confetti, hes all we have got mate, i say support him until something happens that threatens our clubs future, or derails the aspirations of us competing at the top level..

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Ed, I applaud your loyalty. but I will mention three things. 1. AGM 2. Ground 3. Barclays Bank. all have been to the detriment of us loyal supporters, and I have not got time to go into the sale of our club, or lack of it, he pulls all the strings, yes he is a supporter but a very wealthy one, our board have at the latest count by the rich list. 1250 million pounds in personal wealth. that's not in the living in a cardboard box level. {Ed025's Note - our board maybe biffy, unfortunately mate, BK is the only one who puts his hand in his pocket though!...have a go at the other freeloading minge bags who are far wealthier but contribute nothing..

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If BK would allow a proper AGM we may be able to do something about it, unfortunately it's what's called THE GRAVY TRAIN. and BK is the driver, we are not allowed to stop or board the said train. {Ed025's Note - i think you have gone off the rails biffy.. :)

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Say what you like about billy he doesn't take a penny out of the club, it's prohibited by some law of some sort re shareholders. He will make a lot of cheddar when/if he sells but until then he can't take a penny.
This is not a defense of bk as I believe he's a charlatan and gobrubbish of the highest order but he can not take a penny in wages. Though he also doesn't put a penny of his own in because he can't afford it.

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20 Aug 2013 07:54:38
As much as the offer was way below valuation, and I understand the theory that it may unsettle players etc, I do think that within transfer dealings it is only the selling club that can be disrespectful and that is to its fans.
The bidding club is simply that, they bid, it can be accepted, declined or negotiated, if a deal is done and its for a poor amount it is Everton FC that we should turn our collective rage on, not Utd and Moyes.
We either hold out for something like 50 - 60 million and get a great deal for the club, or we simply decline anything less. If they go for around 35 million I believe as fans who spend our hard earned money it is our club that is disrespecting us not the club buying the players.
Just my opinion.

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Moyes knows more about are financial
Situation than most he also knows Bk
Chats rubbish to sell season tickets before selling a player last minute to balance his books arteta Rodwell lescotThis is by far the worst piss take we have had
If Bk sells two of are best players for under there value at the end of the window expect a rough ride this season
As Imo this could affect confidence in the squad how can Wigan expect 18mil
For McCarthy we won't be buying. this means expect Barry on loan and probably another cast off no wants show some class everton and tell them mancs were to go keep are team together its a World Cup year and players will be looking to hit form so let's keep our best ones what you think
Will happen Ed {Ed025's Note - i think felli will move to utd, and baines will stay, but thats just my opinion..

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19 Aug 2013 23:38:39
Hi lads first of all i'm the person who got bladdered and tried to watch the game on the internet with a crap signal and put up crap and boring football post.well I watched the game sunday when I sobered up and I was made up by the way we played . I could see a real change in our play a lot more intent so its just a quick apology griffo {Ed025's Note - happens to the best of us griffo..

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19 Aug 2013 23:55:11
Love how the fans banter with each other as if we personally put the bid in.
Opinion on this; thought better of Moyes. The fact he said we wouldn't sell Baines for 12mill last summer, what makes him think we will now. The 2 players are under contract at Everton, we DO NOT have to sell them!

Anyway, Gaz Barry could do a job with Gibbo being out.

13yog

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19 Aug 2013 23:14:57
OK we might not like it but they are both going to go because at the end of the day MU will up the offer and I reckon they will both want more wages, Champions League etc etc (but I hope i'm wrong)
So how much are we going to get? I can't see MU going from £28M to £40M which would be a reasonable price so its going to be circa £35M or maybe some players thrown in to the deal.
Lets hope it happens sooner rather than later so we can get some replacements in and get on with the season COYB

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Felli 30 Bainsey 20.

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£30m + Anderson and buttner. Then buy Rodwell Alderweireld Moses and either Barry or flammini. Sell Heitinga and gueye. £12m left in the bank for January if needed job done

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