Everton Banter Archive February 20 2015

20 Feb 2015 20:12:58
Great result and performance last night let's get some points on the board now with a win on Sunday nice to see some positive comments on here at last :) Martinez still the one for me :)

Here, here to that!!!!

It's good to see the improvement.
However, I'm still not yet expecting to eat humble pie at the end of the season, but I can see that the recipe is being dusted off and the availability of ingredients is being checked.
:-)

20 Feb 2015 04:49:45
Wow, what a great away performance in Switzerland having gone a goal down against the run of play.
So why is it that we've left our best performances for the Europa League and yet played like a Sunday pub team domestically?
I thought Rom looked awesome tonight and took his hat trick with ease. Indeed he could have scored at least another couple, but for two good early saves from their keeper.
The only sour note was John Stones' red card. It seemed a little harsh to me and now he misses the next 3 Europa matches. But the way in which Everton held firm for the last half hour with 10 men against 11 bodes well for the Leicester match on Sunday.
All in all, I'm a proud Evertonian tonight.

Wow three games is more than I would have thought! Seems harsh in a knockout competition

Daveyboy Blue: Are you sure that Stones will get a 3 match suspension?

It is because Martinez has no plan b. We were great last season as teams did not know how to handle our new style, this season in the league we have been found out and he refuses to try anything different to surprise the opposition who have a clear and effective game plan to nullify us.
In Europe we are facing teams who we don't play regularly and they get caught out as we do not play in typically English way. If we were in Europe consistently playing these teams regularly then again we would eventually get found out.

20 Feb 2015 10:53:32
I thought it was just 1 game as it was a professional foul?
Also I think it will help him more than not as he is still young and obviously the potential is there but he sometimes dies still overplay it and this will hopefully teach him that there I'd a time to play and a time to get rid, in the long term I think bthis will be a valuable lesson and allow him to fulfill his potential in becoming England's best CB!

Stones should get just a 1 match suspension - unless UEFA make an exception and extend it, but I couldn't think why they would do that.

Article 22 (Yellow and Red cards) of the UEFA Europa League regulations States:
22.01 As a rule, a player who is sent off the field of play is suspended for the next match in a UEFA club competition. The Control and Disciplinary Body is entitled to augment this punishment. For serious offences the punishment can be extended to all UEFA competition categories.
22.02 In case of repeated cautions:
a) before the group stage, a player is suspended for the next competition match after three cautions in three different matches, as well as after the fifth caution;
b) from the first match in the group stage, a player is suspended for the next competition match after three cautions in three different matches, as well as following any subsequent odd-numbered caution (fifth, seventh, ninth, etc.).
22.03 Single yellow cards and pending suspensions are always carried forward either to the next stage of the competition or to another club competition in the current season.
22.04 Exceptionally, all yellow cards and pending yellow-card suspensions expire on completion of the play-offs. They are not carried forward to the group stage.
22.05 Cautions and pending yellow-card suspensions from club competition matches expire at the end of the season.

Svenny: I'm sure that every opposition has done their homework on us - analysing our tactics and assessing our strengths and weaknesses. In general, I don't imagine that our style of play - even given that we might make a few tweaks here and there when playing against certain teams and special opposing players - is that much of a surprise to any team we play.
I do think, however, that we - as a team and as individuals - have just not been "going for it" in too many matches this season. Whatever the reason, we just haven't been truly "up for it".
You might have a point about "RM and no plan B", as we haven't always seemed to be able to adapt to the opposition's tactical changes during matches this season.
However, imho the performance against YBB - and hence the result - was much more like it and very welcome and a hopeful sign for the remainder of the season. Having established a comfortable lead - and therefore in no need to chase the game - when we went down to 10 men we sensibly retained the ball passing it around simply and accurately (possession football!), but didn't just sit back and we continued going forward without being gung-ho. A very professional display.
:-)

Svenny: In my humble opinion, teams are so well drilled these days - and coaches have tactics and formations (their own team's and the opposition's) well documented and diagrammed (for example on iPads) - that most aspects are covered.
I reckon that it's most frequently mistakes by players - including failing to follow tactical instructions - that lead to most of the conceded goals. That and the occasional flash of brilliance (worldies!) from opposing players. By definition, even the conceding of a goal because of some wonderful and intricate interplay could be considered a failure to adequately defend against such a move. Of course, the scorers would be looking to exploit the defensive weaknesses of the opposition, but - again by definition - it's mistakes by the defenders (be that down to their technical, tactical or organisational inadequacies - or they're just not good enough!) that lead to goals being conceded. That and the scorers being good enough to cause these "mistakes" by the defenders.

Does anyone know if sangogo is having action taken against him,for kicking barkley in the side of his head,when laid on the floor.it looked deliberate to me.

{Ed025's Note - i would doubt it dentie..

Cowpat mate, you should know by now that several posters on here only post just to get a reaction.
# we are Everton
#we don't win anything
#is swan Adrian Durham?
#is The Real Mike fat raffa?
#is svenny Sven goran erickson?
The Real Blue Lee

Blue Lee: Some of those posts - with all due respect to posters of genuine & honestly-held opinions - seem so nutty that I guess the reactions they're hoping for are allergic reactions (anaphylactic shock)! I wonder if that's why some posters are so anti Pienaar (aka Peanut)?
;-)

21 Feb 2015 12:23:15
Cowpat. I'm more than happy to bow to your superior knowledge regarding UEFA rules. I presumed that John Stones would be looking at a 3 game ban after his sending off on Thursday night. If as you suggest it will simply be a 1 game ban (next week's 2nd leg) no one will be happier than me. Thanks for putting me straight on this