Everton Banter Archive July 20 2012
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20 Jul 2012 22:40:46
I was at a function earlier today and bumped into a guy I know who is a ManU(re) supporter and has close links with the club. I happened to ask what all this baloney is about Baines and he replied "the clubs have been talking for over 6 months"!! He did say though he didn't expect him to sign if it was only as cover for Evra. He seemed more convinced Utd are going to sign RVP and apparently first approached Arsenal over a year ago! Somebody he knows at Arsenal has told him they do not want any more of their players going to City and if he is heading to Manchester, would (with obvious reluctance) prefer him to go to Utd. I guess what we can take from this is that if Utd pay in excess of £20M for RVP + big wages, can they really afford the £16M+ for Baines? I think most Utd fans would love RVP and Baines at OT but would concede that it's their midfield that needs strengthening. Anyway, just thought I'd pass this on. BlueTone
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Thanks for the info BlueTone.
Joe EFC
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Back man utd to win league they will sign RVP as a major statement of intent I know odds won't be good but you can get 5/2 in some places RVP and Rooney = deadly
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I don't think baines is going anywhere
Everton Dave
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20 Jul 2012 22:38:14
if baines has to go to manu we shud try get berba in the deal he is still a class player and he would suit jelly up front
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Need to keep baines
2dog blue
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Berba will be after big wages and a big contract somewhere to finish his career, anyway he is not a moyes type player, i would like to see velios getting a run in the first team next season
Everton Dave
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20 Jul 2012 22:27:03
What time is kick off tomorrow Ed? And now that Naismith has clearance will he be playing? {Ed025's Note - its 2 pm mate...dont know if naisy will play..
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Are you sure, Ed025? It's 1:30pm according to the club website and Sky Sports.
Cowpat Sid {Ed025's Note - it says 2 on the website sid..
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Just checked the official website again, Ed025 - on the main page it definitely says KO 13:30.
Cowpat Sid {Ed001's Note - I would trust the official site mate, 025 is old and senile now, always ranting on about the war, when he was dating Florence Nightingale.....}
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20 Jul 2012 22:00:37
Naismith given International Clearance!
TonyEFC
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Bit late on that lad
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20 Jul 2012 21:44:49
Ed ...when the clock ,..gets nearer,..midnight ,..and the posters ,...have had there fill of the Amber nectar ,...do you wish you were some were else,..........tristen {Ed025's Note - no tris...ale affected posts are much easier to delete..
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I think mine only get deleted when I'm sober! ;)
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20 Jul 2012 21:40:36
There must be a reason Crouch has had so many clubs in a relative short space of time. It aint cos he's a good player! BlueTone
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20 Jul 2012 20:56:45
Think the Pienaar deal will be complete by Thursday. In regards to a striker i wouldnt mind seeing Nicolas Bendtner. Should Caroll go back to Newcastle who's to say Demba Ba wouldnt consider us if we had the 7m for the release clause. Talk of him going to Chelsea seems to have died down and he was playing out of position after the Cisse arrival. Just an idea... {Ed025's Note - do you realy want bendtner?...hes pants..
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I dont think think hes all that bad, he doesnt suit Arsenals style i think he would do well with Bains and Pienaar putting the crosses in, only has to be a short contract anyway he is hardly flooded with offers {Ed025's Note - theres a reason for that..
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The only person who thinks he is good is himself
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Bendtner couldnt score paint with a hatchet
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20 Jul 2012 20:33:42
For all those who kept saying Naismith hadnt officially signed well Naismith has now been granted clearance.To be honest I never thought it was in doubt.
Joe EFC {Ed025's Note - and you were right joe...now wheres that nostradamus guy?..
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20 Jul 2012 20:28:31
Just watched the first half of team g.b....if the r,s bye Joe Allen for 15 mill there finished ,..he is crap,....tristen
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He does look shocking, go get him BR, haha
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If they spend 3 million on him i will p--- my self laughing never mind 15 million, he is crap,my god they have a cheek to moan about other clubs wasting money and destroying football with over priced players,15 million on him am in shock ha ha ha ha. Terry blue
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20 Jul 2012 20:28:05
Naismith has finnally been given clearance. His deal is done and dusted. No drawbacks or anything else he can finally play for us.
Source ssn
Blue kaz {Ed025's Note - it was never in doubt kaz...myself and whitey have been telling the guys this for weeks mate..
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I knew I could always trust you mate. You are the oracle of the footballing world.
Blue kaz {Ed025's Note - hardly kaz...just a true blue like you mate..
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I now feel quite smug, Ed025, as Ghandi said,
"Even if you are in a minority of two, the truth is still the truth."
IN TUPE WE TRUST
EFCwhitesocks
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20 Jul 2012 19:52:39
How much would John Guidetti cost Ed? Just think he would be an excellent addition as City clearly dont need him.
Joe EFC {Ed025's Note - sorry joe, i would be guessing mate..dont know much about him to be honest..
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He scored 20 goals in 23 games for feyernood last season ed.
AntEFC {Ed025's Note - oh right...cheers ant..
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With 8 assists as well
AntEFC
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He would be on a loan, he was only on loan last season as he is contracted with man city and they do not want to sell him {Ed007's Note - He is in talks with Galatasary.}
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20 Jul 2012 19:37:00
is it really this hard to sell yobo and buy peanut the board should be ashamed of themselves between them they have millions so a few millon to buy peanut should be nothing to them plus they would get it back by coning us fans somehow or even when the yobo deal gets done
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Why do tou support the club if you feel your being conned. go support city
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20 Jul 2012 19:35:01
As we are well and truly in silly season I have a feeling I will be needing to use the word Hmmm(spelling) a hell of a lot. I would like to know if it is spelt with three m's or four, or does it depend on the absurdity of the post?
EFCwhitesocks COYB {Ed025's Note - i use 3 whitey...lol
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Suppose you could us between 4 and 10 Ms Whitey dependant on how much gash was being talked, for example:
We are gonna get Crouchie. Hmmmm
Andy Carroll is worth his money Hmmmmmmmmmm
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Think I'll go with Degsy.
"Naismith deal not done"
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
EFCwhitesocks IMIT IMWT COYB TUPE
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20 Jul 2012 19:17:13
Who are everyone real targets ed? {Ed025's Note - only 2 people know mate..moyes , and kenwright...anyone else is just guessing..
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20 Jul 2012 19:02:55
I believe Crouch was Stokes' top scorer and player of the year for them? Why on earth would they want to sell him? He would cost a fortune to us. Not that I think we want him.
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20 Jul 2012 18:36:34
Been reading all abouyt Moyes supposidly meeting up with Crouch, now maybe its just me Ed but ive never heard of a manager discussing personal terms or such with a player, its normally done at board level through an agent!
Kurajan {Ed025's Note - a scottish ed reckons they met in glasgow, what got said is anybodys guess mate..
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Moyes probably said, 'Christ you're tall!' Then left it at that.
Wizard of Osman
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20 Jul 2012 17:29:23
I think that a perfect partner for jelavic would be a player with the style of Defoe... We can't afford his wages but if we can get a cheaper alternative it would be perfect.....................
TC {Ed025's Note - i agree...
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20 Jul 2012 16:18:14
Crouch has better technique than most big centre forwards and his goal ratio is not bad.....but I just feel the game has moved on and if you want to compete at the top end, you have to have speed in the last third of the pitch.....Jelavic has guile and precision...what he needs alongside him is someone who can turn quickly and make space for an opening on goal.......crouch does not fit the bill....heres hoping it is a rumour without substance that he might be goodison bound.
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That pretty much sums it up mate. Could not agree more.
Wizard of Osman
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I would have crouchie before Owen
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I cannot see where we would get the money from. I rate him but moyes rarely plus two up front. Blueboy72 {Ed025's Note - good point..
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8 mill does seem a lot for him, rhodes from huddersfield might be a better option
Everton Dave
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Rhodes or Crouch? I'd have to say Rhodes but we could afford neither.
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I totally agree, we need a quicker more skillful player to partner Jelavic.
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It is a myth that we cant afford certain players its called speculating we have sky money sale money of players season ticket money we have to wheel and deal but with a bit more ambition we could be challeging
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20 Jul 2012 15:34:36
Ed any truth in this crouch or Owen rumour posted a few times and no answer blueboy wozza {Ed025's Note - just speculation at the moment mate
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He is more likely to end up at stoke or villa
Everton Dave
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20 Jul 2012 15:18:42
Just seen that felliani was the top player in the prem last season for winning possession back. not bad for someone with his pace. one very good reason we need to keep him! blueboy72
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Fellaini won the most headers last season. It was Lucas Leiva who won the most tackles.
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No Fellaini won possession back the most,its on EPL Index.
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20 Jul 2012 14:57:44
Regarding the stream from Everton website last night.
I work with a lot of City fans and on the last game of the season they where banging on, rightly so, about the match but I never got to see it. So I searched YouTube to no avail and ended up going on City's website to see for myself.
Well................
What a website, video player is half the size of the screen before "full screen" Picture quality was HDish, very easy to navigate and no need to be a member to watch the videos.
Now I'm no expert, but SURELY we can find a few Geeks to sort ours the f**k out.
In contrast ours is blue square prem.
Gods Doctor
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Could you contact the club and let them know? - they may not know there's a problem - and your note showing them how it could be done might be of interest to them :)
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Yeah, I messages them saying I couldn't use the select your own seat function when buying tickets using a iPad as we all know apple and flash player don't mix, needless to say they have fixed e issue
J0hn80y
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20 Jul 2012 14:04:23
Sunderland lost 1-0 in a pre-season friendly against Seongnam. Look at the lad who scored... Everton Santos! Surely we should go for him on principle. Don't even care if he's rubbish.
Wizard of Osman
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He apparently could have scored a hat-trick before that as he had so many chances. we should be looking at his team mates.
Blue kaz
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I want him Wiz
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20 Jul 2012 13:26:34
how about Harry Kewell on a free, been in Oz last year so wont want the earth, plus has to be in the UK as his mother in law is sick with cancer.. he hasnt had the injury struggles since he left the red s#$t.. i think on the right deal he would be good.. {Ed025's Note - backward step for me..
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Let me know about this one.... erm....???. NO CHANCE.
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How about NO!
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No way pedro
Dgsybluenose
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Kewell will end up at a championship club
Everton Dave
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He was good at leeds finished now
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20 Jul 2012 12:25:25
Ed why doesn't this page get updated as much as others {Ed025's Note - it does usually mate, but we are an ed down at the moment, and work gets in the way most of the time..
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20 Jul 2012 11:52:57
If we need to sell Yobo to sign Pienaar then how in the world would we be able to afford Crouch?
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TV money comes through in August of course.
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Swap deal maybe??
Everton Dave
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20 Jul 2012 01:21:47
just been reading on news now that there is a potential sale off jonny h to raise funds for the peanut deal not to sure if its just me but i would rather keep jonny than sign peanut who is great for us i cant wait to see a deal done for him but i think jonny has alot more to give to the game and alot more to give to everton on his performances last year ok crap in the euros but bloody good for us
andy the one true chef
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Can't c blues sellin heitinga pienaar deal done next week only players who r leaving r those who ask 2 leve . Everyone s forgetting how up beat moyes was in last interview ,deals take time Weil have 4new players in at end of window if any go only because they wanted to go
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Don;t listen to it we have no reason or need to sell johnny
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Heitinga was amazing last season and he is as crucial as any other player for us, there is no way moyes would consider letting him go and johnny seems very happy and settled, maybe future everton captain
Everton Dave
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20 Jul 2012 00:44:08
Just to let you know guys Baines will be a last day deal,,, Just have this bad feeling like arteta deadline day messed us up baines do the same, I am happy though because coleman or hibbo right back and nev can go lb for a while, and if not distin and do it!,
Also anyone heard anything about this deal with a company from china to buy the club,
Just a rumour.
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You would be happy if Neville went left back if we sold Baines! What a ridiculous comment! I suppose you would be happy if we sold Jelavic and put David Weir up front?
We must not and will not sell our best players! Otherwise we'll just go backwards.
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Are you for real? No everton fan would be happy if bains went and distin filled in,wow your so deluded and especially with takeover talk at the end..you getting bored on your own site you feel you have to come and try and aggravate a few Everton fans well don't bother coz were all on to you lot.BYE BYE.
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If Baines does go, you can bet on it being the last day of the transfer window, just so Bill can't give Moyes any of the funds.
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Nonsense, Arteta WANTED to leave, Baines has made it pretty clear that he is happy at Everton right now. We won't sell Baines unless the offer is right for us.
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You're saying it's just a rumour but when you say "just to let you know guys Baines will be a last day deal" that makes it sound like you think 1) baines is definitely going and 2) its definitely happening on the last day.
Well, I think that it won't happen and it definitely won't happen on the last day.
As on this site we seemed to have agreed to stop Baines rumours, you are either a r/s, a manc, or someone trying to stir up trouble.
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Baines is going nowhere, i think united only have a passing interest in him and they will never meet evertons valuation
Everton Dave
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20 Jul 2012 00:37:56
Was at tannadice tonight and we didn't offer very much. Roswell was awful, I can't see him fulfilling his potential. Barkley on the other hand looked more influential. Velios needs to be given a run too as little Conor mcelny (Sp?) is not first team material. We're missing that creative spark, utd actually had the better chances which I wasn't expecting.
Want to see Rodwell and Anichebe sold for good money. Bring in pienaar and an effective right midfielder.
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Aliens are back again Ed
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This Roswell bloke is alien to me..... (sorry mate, couldn't resist).
Wizard of Osman {Ed025's Note - love it wiz..
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Rodwell needs games under his belt and then we will see his true form, he can be a big player for us next season
Everton Dave
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20 Jul 2012 00:16:45
just watched tonights game gotta say tony hibbert is so poor dundee striker ripped to bits! moyes as gotta buy a right back !!!!!!!
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I am totally surprised and sad that we didnt go for Clyne. AO
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I know what your saying but dont forget our guys don't put 100% into these preseason matches till nearer the end and untill fitness is fully restored.dont worry to much about preseason performances,well thats my way of thinking anyways..
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We don't have to buy a new rb! hibbert was poor yesterday admittedly, but he is normally quality every game. Just because he has an off game DOES NOT mean that we need to replace him! If we replaced a player every time they had a bad game, we'd have a different XI every transfer window!
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20 Jul 2012 00:09:36
Is the crouch deal true or not? Would love to seen him up to with Jelavic.
TheBirch {Ed025's Note - still waiting for confirmation mate..
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I can't see the crouch deal happening, stoke want 8 million for him
Everton Dave
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If Stoke want £ 8 max then its a no deal. we have let 9 players leave or get sold saving us £ 130,000 a week but this is everton and we get f all from the chairman
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19 Jul 2012 23:19:21
Here's a thought,
Spurs need a centre half now that King has retired, We need Pienaar back!
How about we offer Yobo for Pienaar?!?
What do you think?!?
Mickey Blue Eyes
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Like Pienaar,Yobo only wants to move to one club.
Joe EFC
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19 Jul 2012 23:01:47
Donovan to Everton b4 end of August {Ed051's Note - hope so mate
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19 Jul 2012 22:41:42
Heard on talksport michael owen going to sign happy days {Ed051's Note - for stoke more likely
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19 Jul 2012 22:38:57
Our next pre-season game's in two days, so I'm expecting virtually a whole new starting line-up for it..so for those wondering where the first team players are, I'd say to expect to see some/most of them on Saturday against Motherwell!
Murf
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19 Jul 2012 22:25:31
But as the game appeared to be meandering to a draw, the impressive Coleman got to the byline and crossed for Barkley to head a controlled finish beyond the helpless Tangerines' keeper.
It's good to see Coleman is doing well, I said from the start of the transfer window that we should keep a hold of him and I am glad he is doing well.
Bobcat
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