Everton Banter Archive July 20 2016

 

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20 Jul 2016 19:47:30
Ed, are you able to give us a transfer update at all please mate?

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{Ed002's Note - I told what I knew the other day.}

20 Jul 2016 21:20:20
Ah ok, must have missed it so I'll take a look. Thanks!

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20 Jul 2016 19:05:49
Witsel to Inter.

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20 Jul 2016 20:12:17
Not particulary bothered but Witsel now. Would of been a decent signing, but other out there.

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20 Jul 2016 18:20:16
Be very interesting now if Steve Walsh does join which is looking likely, Mr Moshiri doing things right getting the people in at top, obviously Walsh will know what players are out there at the moment but won't see his main work until next window or even summer, I think we should start seeing some real bids go in like official ones rather than the gossip pages and rags my god we have been linked to all sorts Witzel, Mata, I'm not saying all the links are rubbish but half the ones that's been mentioned are not even gossip.

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20 Jul 2016 18:19:54
Berkovic and koubaily will the first 2 signings hopefully by the weekend what a start coybs.

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20 Jul 2016 20:21:21
Gut feeling or inside info Tbone?

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20 Jul 2016 22:36:19
You heard it first.

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20 Jul 2016 17:57:45
Like most of us, I trawl the papers and net for rumours but I have to say that today there are more rumours, more chat about Ron chasing certain players. Now Walsh is here, I think we are in for a great few weeks. COYB.

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20 Jul 2016 18:09:37
Have we actually got Walsh have not seen statement as of yet.

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20 Jul 2016 16:22:05
Go get Kasper in first - his goalkeeping alone will gain us 15 points over the course of a season!

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20 Jul 2016 15:55:00
love this headline from the Echo

How will the new Premier League initiative affect the Blues, then?

Under Roberto Martinez, they were deemed too soft, and almost won the Fair Play League.

Southampton had one of the worst disciplinary records, however

Its going to be a completely different team come the start of the season, I hope at least one of the kids has impressed Ron, my favourite being Tome Davies, would love to see one of these as a 1st team starter, roll on Spurs.

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20 Jul 2016 15:43:13
Just read a report that Witsel has agreed terms for £12.5m five year deal with inter who are haggling over the £18m transfer fee. Bit of a change from the £30m last week.

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20 Jul 2016 16:16:37
we were probably never even in for him or Steve Walsh but the stop on this before he got the job, may have someone better in his black book of gems.

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20 Jul 2016 20:14:21
That could well be the case. I'm pretty sure there was enough info out there to say we were bidding for him but the idea that Walsh has said hold up a mo is very plausible.

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20 Jul 2016 21:02:58
Do you not think Leicester will be well informed also of these players?

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20 Jul 2016 10:52:42
I'm not panicking for one minute about the lack of signings, Farhad seems to know what he wants and is quietly going about getting them. Koeman by the end of this week will have had a look at the squad and will have assessed what he needs. I expect things will gather pace over the next week or so.

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20 Jul 2016 13:09:38
Agree mate don't want us to make signings just to keep us all happy or we might get stung again (Niasse) not his fault i know but need to do our homework better this time around.

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20 Jul 2016 14:52:56
The priority is/ has been to get backroom staff sorted. Now that's allmost done they will look at what we need to who is available. don't stress just let the powers to be do their work.

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20 Jul 2016 15:56:48
It's not the back room staff that play on the park is it. We do need some signings so they can jell before pre-season starts not last minute signings.

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20 Jul 2016 16:58:08
No the don't play ab. But they run every thing else. Including player sales/ purchases. Why panic buy before the club is set up the way moshiri and co want.

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20 Jul 2016 10:39:22
Walsh coming, hopefully he brings Casper with him. 20 million is peanuts for us now new manger new d.o.f, new players? New stadium look and wipe your eyes kopites. no it's not a nightmare, efc are coming back with a bang.

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20 Jul 2016 14:31:59
20mill isn't peanuts at all haha. We aren't stupidly rich like Man city where a few years ago. The word to describe us would be comfortable in my opinion plus every Bpl club has money to spend from the TV deal

We no longer have to sell to buy but that doesn't mean we will be splashing out on players for the sake of it. And I wouldn't want us to tbh.

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20 Jul 2016 10:18:30
Still earning more than us while we are dancing through the dark. he can't be that bad, shall we say skodran mustafi what a shout by moyes. pogba what a shout by Ferguson free transfers now worth 160 million between the two of them.

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20 Jul 2016 09:52:50
My assessment of our squad and "told you so" attitude is just how I see things. Sorry guys if it winds you up. However, 2.5 seasons ago when I was warning about the type of midfielder that RM was signing and the lack of Osman and Pienaar replacements, everyone told me things were great. But we ended the last 2 seasons looking absolutely terrible and close to relegation. On a more positive note, the signing of Steve Walsh is exactly what we needed. I posted about 2 months ago that Koeman may be a good manager but perhaps we needed to sign his talent spotting staff. The ones who had brought so many quality players into Southampton. Well, I see the Walsh signing as being exactly that. Niasse may turn out a great signing. but I just don't think he is good enough from what I have seen. which I admit is not a lot. But hopefully Walsh and his assistant will sign andd we will then have a source of good lower priced players who will lead to the success we all crave. That is likely to be in 2 to 3 seasons. Right now I feel our squad is not as good as some of the Premier Leagues average ones. eg Leicester, West Ham, Southampton have better squads in my opinion. Add those 3 to the usual top 5 or 6 clubs and we are ending up bottom half. that's my assessment. I would love to be higher and love to sign 4 players now that would take us into the top 4 but I just don't see it. I see bottom half and will be happy to see 3 or 3 signings without losing Stones or Lukaku. I would be happy to see 1 or 2 youngsters establish first team positions and would be absolutely delighted to end up 9th. Caall me negative if you like, but that's how I see it.

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20 Jul 2016 10:56:03
Even when we get a bit of decent news, you still manage to create a post which pisses on our bonfire! None of us can forget what you say, you continually repeat it for us anyway! Bottom half? You're having a laugh Degsy, this squad should have been competing for the european spots for the last couple of seasons. We all know that the previous manager and his 'philosophy' held back some very talented players.
We have a new investor who is willing to spend some cash, a new manager who is well respected throughout the game, possibly a new DoF if we can tie up a deal and talks over a new stadium are advancing nicely yet you don't mention any of that.

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20 Jul 2016 11:13:44
I have a feeling you are going to be pleasantly surprised with a top six finish. I disagree to some degree I think the youngsters coming through plus Tarashaj may be capable replacements for Ossie and Peanuts goal wise. I still would like to see a couple of new players brought in LM especially.

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20 Jul 2016 12:12:00
Right Degsy. A couple of things. Our goalscoring record over the past three years was nothing different to Moyes or anyone else since 1986. Goals were not the problem as I've stated to you in most of your posts. It doesn't matter who scores as long as you score.

What did matter was defensively we were pants over the past two years. That is were the problem was.

As for talent spotting. We've done alright over the past few years with signings but we are now shopping in a different department store and can afford to get a better quality of player. Not the elite but better.

Besic, Barry (Free) , McCarthy, Lukaku, Ged Fed, Mori, Robles, Even Lennon for £6mil are not bad players. Kone's injury finished him off but before that had an excellent record in the EPL and Spanish league and there were poor buys in Eto, Niasse and McGeady. His loan signings tended to be very poor as well.

However, we have a plethora of youth coming through and therefore the youth set up is very good and our recruitment there is probably one of the best in Europe not only the EPl.

Steve Walsh is a good addition but as with the previous management he will buy players to fit in with the managers philosophy.

As for not finishing in the top half. Leicester and Southampton have just shown what you can do with a good TEAM ethic and that you don't necessarily need to go out and spend £200 mil to win a trophy or compete with the elite.

Reminding people of your flawed views are probably not the best thing to do and instead if you have a valid new point leave out the "I told you so's". You have some good debate topics and mine is just an alternative point of view to yours which also maybe wrong but starting most conversations with I said 2 months ago just makes you sound up your own arse.

Either way just shake out those troubles and worries and go with the flow of seeing our club being positive on so many fronts. We've ALL been moaning for this for 20 years.

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20 Jul 2016 13:15:27
BlueJohnUns you said it perfectly. It's not that anyone doesn't appreciate an alternative viewpoint or indeed your perspective Degsy, and there's no need to continually give yourself a pat on the back for believing what you said 2 years ago to be proved right (wouldn't necessarily say that's the case in all points) . In addition just because you repeat yourself doesn't make you any more or less right than you already are. And this, I think is the crux of the problem. Your posts are mostly repetitive, to the point where I can describe 90% of your posts to a tee. They all start with "Last week/ month/ year/ 2 years I was criticised for my "negative attitude/ view" (which has to be in speechmarks, as if you don't realise every view you have is negative) . You then go on to repeat said view (e. g. Osman is boss, Moyes was perfect, no replacements for Osman/ Pienaar, lack of goalscoring midfielders, we aren't good enough, not enough money etc) .

The thing is, wrong or right (no-one can say as it's just a matter of opinion) hardly anyone agreed with you first time, so you repeat your post a while later hoping someone else will agree with you, but you are mostly speaking to the same people as before, which means you are mostly shouted down again. Are you just going to keep repeating until we all agree with you? Maybe you need to just say your piece, and if you turn out to be right, I'm sure some of us on here would be humble enough to admit that you were right.

I do value your opinion and do think you make a good contribution to debates but maybe next time you write a post think to yourself: Have I said this before? And then if that answer is yes think: has anything happened related to what I said, and if the answer to that is no think again. That way you will wind less people up and won't feel like everyone is getting at you all the time.

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20 Jul 2016 13:24:58
Degsy you will do well to heed the advice from BlueJohnUns and Blue Tommy. Even if it is direct I think they are being kind to you.

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20 Jul 2016 14:39:37
Degsy do you ever give up trying to prove you're right and no other opinion matters 😂😂😂😂
I read the first line of your above post and can't stop laughing. Don't think i'll bother with the rest of it because I know it'll be about us not replacing Osman, scoring goals etc. I agree with everything said, in the replies to your message by other blues that are sick of reading your 'I told you so' last season.

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20 Jul 2016 17:50:34
Degsy is our own Dave Whelan. Do you know he once broke his leg in the cup final 😂.

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20 Jul 2016 22:38:15
We will see. I will take any one on a 1:1 bet that we finish bottom half.

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20 Jul 2016 00:25:14
55m Euros Koubaily.

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19 Jul 2016 23:59:33
I just hope Ronnie gets it through to the players that when Baines plays, he will be our penalty taker.

The way ofm allowed Kev, rom and others to take the ball off Baines should not have happened.

Much has been said about Moyes, but none tried to take the ball off Baines when he was in charge.

Hopefully now, Baines will be back on penalty duties.

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