Everton Banter Archive March 20 2015

 

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20 Mar 2015 23:07:18
Just wanted to make a quick point on the winter break. In spain they have one weekends break. Most clubs still train or like barcelona fly to their sponsors country and play a match.

We were knocked out of the fa cup and had the same break and flew off to go to the beach. This is not an excuse for bob to use. Its always been about having xmas off with family.

Probably the bigger issue is the two domestic cups we have compared to other countries but we were knocked out early the the cc as well.

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20 Mar 2015 22:43:45
As there might be a few people on here who have spent thousands of pounds supporting the blues in europe. this season.
Thankyou ( and no thanks to. the shambles of our club who treat their customers life dog @@#%e)
Would any other business survive in our present economic. climate with such
dreadfucl customer
service?

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20 Mar 2015 17:56:37
Right blues I have now accepted that we are stuck with Martinez for at least another season. We will stay up but it's going to be an interesting summer Mirrallas is as good as gone Lukaku will stay at least 1 more season but will want significant strides next season.Martines has to spend his transfer money wisely in the summer we need absolute quality no more squad players example we need a creative midfielder who can unlock teams, a quality winger to replace Mirallas, another striker that can chip in with plenty of goals, also another centre half and maybe a right back to keep Coleman on his toes but here's hoping let's see what happens.

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20 Mar 2015 19:37:05
Lets hope he's gone and forgotten well before a new season Stef

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20 Mar 2015 20:33:06
We needed all those things last summer stef and the fraud didn't get any of them. i'm sorry i'm trying really hard to be as positive as I can but we simply can't trust him with another penny in the summer. I just can't for the life of me understand what bill is waiting for. This seasons performance is simply unaceptable and before people compare it to moyes second season there is no comparison. Before moyes took over we were regular relegation candidates this complete idiot has taken over a regular top six team and within 18 months wiped out ten years of hard wirk and put us back were we started. Things are only going to get worse with time because he is completley delusional and i'm begining to suspect the man is has a screw loose judging by his unbelievable post match comments. We can't aford to wait untill next season sack him now or disaster is around the corner.

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20 Mar 2015 21:25:41
I hadn't actually heard his latest comments with regard to Winter Break. That is something everyone has been calling for the difference being that from his lips it is yet again another excuse and deflection. Why the heck can't any of the journalists ask him does he actually know what he is doing and why won't he accept it is his tactics and selections that are messing this great Club up.

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20 Mar 2015 21:55:04
Unfortunately Mushy I think we are stuck with him mate for another season it will take a lot of money to get rid of him now mate and you know what Bill is like ah it's just a blip. And Sheeds yes we did need those players last summer but Bobby blew it all on Lukaku who I have to say is starting to justify his price tag now mate I know a bit late but let's just get this nightmare of a season over and pray for better things next season.

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20 Mar 2015 17:43:58
WTF was that last night how can he justify that team selection .Are biggest game in years and he plays Atsu Barry an Alcatraz Atsu has done nothing in a everton. Shirt He wouldn't get in most liverpool Sunday sides how he got the nod was beyond me as for the donkey at the back he should not play for everton again .Why when we have just beaten Newcastle and tried to restore confidence in the ranks with a positive performance did he then change a winning setup all he had to do was take the donkey out for stones and naisy for Lennon Even distin would have been a better option than Alcatraz we needed leaders osman and Gibson should have played.Was stones injured?because if not he is going when the manager plays donkeys ahead of the best young ch the country he must be thinking WTF .I can not see how Rm can remain in the job beyond this season he has been found out

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20 Mar 2015 16:32:07
Talk Sport phone lines log jammed with blues calling for him out.
The little weasel is hinting he wants more money if we want to progress!

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20 Mar 2015 17:05:55
People calling for Brown Shoes to be sacked are wasting their time. It is not going to happen. Do you really think that Bill has got the bottle to sack him? The answer is quite clearly no. He didn't have the bottle to sack Moyes years ago, just like he won't now. The only way he will go, is if we go down, as he will tell Bill that the Championshp is below him and he is not the man to bring us back up.

Bill loves Brown Shoes, we came 5th and he got a mural and a new 5 year contract. He is going nowhere unless Real Madrid pay compensation and he goes to replace Ancelotti. He is who they will want right?

I can't wait till the end of the season. The Great Escape DVD we will bring out will be epic. It will go alongside my Magnificent 7th one. The Glory Years.

#Wedontwinanything
20 years and counting

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20 Mar 2015 20:23:41
He is hoping that like Moyes, Martinez will go ahead and recover from this blip, however Martinez is totally different from Moyes. His arrogance and utter belief that he is never wrong will I predict from here on in see us struggle every season. How the hell in one and a half seasons can he take one of the best Squads (experts and commentators all say it) we have had in recent times and totally wipe out all confidence and have them playing like a Sunday League side apologies to Sunday League.

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20 Mar 2015 22:14:17
Bk won't even come out and give us his thoughts in a statement never mind sack roberto bill is spineless

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20 Mar 2015 23:55:17
I hope it is the great escape Mike. The directors cut doesn't bear thinking about .

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20 Mar 2015 16:01:41
Won't bore everyone to death with the details, but, given the crap he has come out with, i'm begining to think we might be able to get rid by having him sectioned. This man is totally delusional, any connection with what we all witnessed last night, and the analysis offer by mr matinez is in his head, he still does not get it, HE'S THE PROBLEM.

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20 Mar 2015 15:31:59
Kevin Ratcliffe did Captain a very good & capable Everton Team. and got it spot on last night when he questioned the Team Selection by Martinez. I said after last weeks 1st leg result at Goodison, that we would NOT progress any further as we cannot defend. their goal in the 1st leg proved that, it was shocking!They only needed to score 1 goal last night and they were through on away goals. When Lukaku scored, the Everton players to a man celebrated like it was job done. ludicrous!Our defence was not solely to blame either in my opinion, Martinez midfield selection was a joke! The only creative midfielder we have was once again left on the bench, and wasn't used at all.Gibson. Atsu was a complete liability, and even though Barkley hit the post with a couple of great strikes, most of the game passed him by. as it always does. he doesn't do enough, and for a big lad does not put himself about like he should. Lukaku never won much in the air. again, and as for the performance of Alcaraz, I have watched Everton for 50 years and never have I seen such an abject, totally unacceptable, chronic display by a defender in an Everton shirt. It was obvious to everyone that he was having a nightmare of a game, he never had a clue and was solely responsible for at least 2 of their goals. Martinez should have taken him off at half time and put Stones on. but the idiot never even used Stones. unbelievable. This great Football Club of ours is far too big for someone like Martinez, it is always about stats and the technical side of the game with him. wrong!! Its about tackling the man with the ball, and doing so as far away from our defence as possible, not allowing the man with the ball to advance 30, 40, 50 yards with it so he arrives just outside our box before any Everton player approaches him, not necessarily tackles him. so the pressure is right on our defence. Our midfield last night was non existant, until it was too late, they offered no resistance and Yarmalenko must have thought it was Christmas for most of the game, as he ran the show. Attack is the best form of defence, the higher up the pitch you are forces the opposition back. Once again last night Everton made a mediocre team look much better than they actually are, and ended up being humiliated. These players are all millionaires. just for playing football. this is not the Everton I have grown up with. I don't recall Howard Kendall standing on the sidelines with an ipad taking 10mins to explain to a player what he wanted him to do . I am well aware that the game has changed over the years etc, but the basics have to be observed. you pass to another Blue shirt. not like last night. Even if he doesn't play too well, Gibson needs to play from now, he is the only one who sees a pass, and can create openings for the strikers and also he has a hell of a shot with an eye for goal.Martinez has to go. he is not the man for this Club. I don't know who is, but we need someone with a long term plan. maybe someone like Frank de Boer at Ajax. if he would come here? We are going to lose a few players at the end of the season & some will now want to leave through the lack of European Football.Mirallas wants away, Atsu goes back to Chelsea, McGeady isn't good enough, Alcaraz, Distin & Barry are finished, Everton may well come back in for Coleman. and if so He will go, Barkley is never going to be "the messiah" Martinez makes him out to be, Osman & Piennar are also past it now. and so it goes. But who will want to come & play here, even Lukaku is linked with Wolfsburg due to the fact they will be in Champions League next season. So we face the prospect of a New Manager with new ideas, and the need for not far short of a whole new 1st team. We don't even have many coming through from the under 21's, good enough for Premier League. maybe Garbutt? I am sure loads of you now are looking at this post and thinking. "call yourself an Evertonian mate". I am and always will be but this drivel we are being served at the moment is insulting to the Club Motto, and we are still in danger of being sucked down into the relegation battle. and we are not too good to go down. We showed last night that we have no backbone! Sorry, but like you I am a very passionate longsuffering Everton Fan, and its about time it all changed for the better. please! COYB

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20 Mar 2015 17:27:31
Couldn't agree more!I just hope Bill has the bottle to get rid of RM. How about Sean Dyche? His team gives you nothing less than 110%. I would love De Boer but I don't think he would come to us?

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21 Mar 2015 08:16:27
For the last two seasons I have posted about our ageing squad and the signings RM has made. In particular, Lukaku aside, he signs players who hardly ever score goals. Look at the stats for Besic, Barry, McCarthy, Kone, McGeady, Lennon, Alcaraz.

Between them, they score less than 5 goals every season. Added to which, Replacing Anichebe (age 23) with Kone for 2 million more than we got for Anichebe was just plain crazy. We already had ageing players such as Pienaar, Osman, Distin, Jags and a few others. To bring Barry in on a lucrative 3 year deal was nuts.

Ok as Swan pointed out to me, Alcaraz was on a free. So what he is absolute crap as I said at the time. I was slated for my negativity. .but I saw it as reality. Our big problem now is we have 9 or 10 players on their last legs. Any squad that undergoes a major overhaul like this scale struggles for 6 months to a year before they gel together.

I also think whereas Moyes trawled the Greek League, the Irish League and the Championship and even League 2 for quality players, RM seems to be driving at least 1 quality player out and bringing in average players no longer needed by our potential rivals for top half of the table.

Back to the beginning of my post, there are 7 players scoring less than 5 goals together every season (check the stats out on Wpedia).Add the keeper in as 0 and that leaves 3 outfield players to score our goals if that lot play.

Obviously that does not happen, but the pressure that puts on Lukaku, Mirralas and the 2 full backs to get all our goals is enormous. Add all these things together and I only see a bleak next season.

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20 Mar 2015 15:02:22
According to google it's 'Happiness Day' tell that to the poor beggars coming back from the ukraine.

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20 Mar 2015 14:54:12
He never knows when to shut up does he?
I selected alcaraz instead of stones because of his superb communication skills with the rest of the defence!
Chuckle brothers or what ( to you to me to you to me)!
You can kid some of the people some of the time.

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20 Mar 2015 15:01:42
He's an idiot. Can't wait to see the back of the fraud.

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20 Mar 2015 15:10:54
He's totally deluded Mushy

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20 Mar 2015 15:26:31
No wonder it's a shambles communicating to Baines, Jags and Coleman and Howard in Spanish!

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20 Mar 2015 14:21:48
i think it is time for martinez to go. he has to go

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20 Mar 2015 13:35:41
Anyone else think RM is having a laugh with us all and just came to Everton so he could get Lennon and McCarthy back together?

I'll get my coat.

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20 Mar 2015 13:55:48
Boom Boom, Brilliant, how come I didn't think of that.

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20 Mar 2015 19:06:29
By George, I am off to the Ringo Bells to drown my sorrows.

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20 Mar 2015 12:40:35
I am staggered by the puff wind explanation of RM; "The whole team defended badly". No the defense were crap. OK RB hit the post twice and the team struck more shots at goal - BUT we did not score! Attack failed. And the defense was still crap. Over to the manager who is sadly. CRAP

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20 Mar 2015 12:13:26
I've been trying to find one positive from last night's disaster, & all I can come up with is that at least I won't have to listen to Kevin Ratcliffe as co-commentator again!
I could have sworn he used to play & captain for us but to listen last night you'd have thought he was a bitter red nose!

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20 Mar 2015 14:00:52
The man is a tit

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20 Mar 2015 14:04:23
no just honest we were '''te

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20 Mar 2015 12:02:12
I was a young lad in the 60's when John Moors
replaced Jonny Carey with Harry Catterick.
I didn't really understand what was going on,
until my dad told me that a great club like Everton, only the best will do (ref to our motto)& that goes for the manager.
If you don't get the right results you are out!
Now I look back, Moores, Catterick & my old dad must be spinning in their graves.
One of the good things that comes with old age is remembering the better days, a great team with good management, how I long for those days again.
But now alas we have this situation which I feel unable to comprehend.
Team choice, tactics & lack of positive management both at team & board level.
Lack of responsibility & accountability both
on & off the pitch.
Just glad Moores, Catterick & my dad not here
to whiteness this excuse for a team & management.

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20 Mar 2015 12:25:16
I hope Martinez reads the above post. The decline has been remarkable in its rapidity and no matter how we look at it, it has to be down to him and his staff.

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20 Mar 2015 12:39:34
HH: my dad often talked about this episode, wasn't it something like 'sacked in the back of a taxi'?

We now live in a different age so how about 'thrown out of a mini cab'?



FFS SACK MARTINEZ!

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20 Mar 2015 13:03:49
Can I drive please, and could we make it the m6, the money for my defence could come from the vidio sales.

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20 Mar 2015 13:57:08
i am 73 yrs old and remember Johnny Carey being sacked in the back of a taxi so the story went.
I remember Harry Catterick introducing a young teenager to play centre forward, think against Blackpool, and don't think it went down too well with some supporters. The lad who came in was Joe Royle. He didn't let the club down. Can anyone remember which No9 he replaced. The nearest I can think was it Fred Pickering??

Also I seem to remember an incident when seat cushions were thrown from the main stand. Can anyone recall this and why. It was the old main stand, that I do remember, so it's back in the John Moores era.

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20 Mar 2015 16:28:46
Keenone, I think I was at this game away at Blackpool,
we lost 1-0? & I think 16 year old Joe replaced Alex Young.
After the game, there was trouble outside, at the car park
when Evertonians protested about Catterick dropping the
"golden vision"
what would we give now for either Joe or Alex in this "team"
we have?

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20 Mar 2015 16:34:15
247, I posted some time ago "taxi for Mr Bean"
better me it a minibus now put Kenwright, Alcatrash, Howard,
Barry & the rest of the carpetbaggers in it with him.

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20 Mar 2015 19:15:16
Thanks for that Henderson. I've been scratching my head trying to remember but that long since and not knowing Joes age couldn't work back to get a year on it. Like yourself would love to see either Joe or Alex Young in today's team. Plus a few others from that era. We always seemed to get some excellent players at that time from Scotland. Eg Alex Scott, Alex Parker, Tommy Ring, Jimmy Gabriel and think Sandy Brown all serve the club well plus others.

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20 Mar 2015 11:41:35
I have posted this b4 but what is RM's obsession with Barry and Howard, Barry although individually not at fault last night gives us nothing in a creative or attacking sense, Howard is off form yet continues to be first choice giving Robles no confidence in getting his chance again. under Moyes the same back four were one of the tightest defensive units in the PL WITHOUT any defensive midfielders sitting in front of them. This is maybe a reason for the lack of understanding in the marking when defending set pieces?

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20 Mar 2015 14:12:18
Good point on the defence. I would have, Robles, Coleman, Stones, Jagielka and Garbutt with McArthy Besic and Barkley and then lukaku, mirallas and lennon in front of them. Martinez has to accept that his system does not work, we will see the best out of Lukaku either with someone to take the pressure off him or two real wide men.

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20 Mar 2015 11:23:09
OK last night was horrible and the likes of Alcaraz should never kick the ball for us again but one person out of all those culpable seems to avoid criticism, and in my eyes has been equally poor all season. That player is Coleman, he is half the player he was last season and now appears unable to go past a player. I have lost count of the number of times he has had a chance to either go round a man or get a ball in the box and just kicked it against the opposing player or fell over it. I know there are lots of others that can be blamed for our poor performances (not least the man in charge) but I would like to see all those not performing having a finger or two pointed at them rather than just the usual suspects. I know this may be unpopular in some quarters but the buck doesn't just stop at Barry, Alcaraz, McGeady, Baines (also not the player he was) Lukaku Kone (in my opinion both less culpable due to lack of service)and the list could go on but let's not pretend that some are performing when they aren't.
At the end of that rant I would lay most of the blame at the managers door who appears unable or unwilling to drop players who don't perform. I think we may just have enough to stay up but if he remains in charge I genuinely fear for our top league status for next season.

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20 Mar 2015 13:59:35
I have to agree last season Coleman muted at £20m transfer fee (a bit ott) this year he looks £5m tops, still a good return on £60k but worrying the extent of his poor form. Baines hasn't looked much better, crosses not getting to the target and can't remember his last converted free kick?

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20 Mar 2015 11:10:07
I see Bobby is now 2nd favourite at 9/2 for the sack next. please let this happen.now!!

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20 Mar 2015 10:06:40
I'd give Alan Stubbs a go until the end of the season. He's done amazing in Scotland and got himself above Rangers.

He's no more of a gamble than Martinez.

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20 Mar 2015 11:18:49
and at least he can head a ball

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20 mar 2015 13:14:39
i know it's another dour scot, but david wire has done a hell of a job, and is about to be rewarded with the push, so they would not be looking for a big conpensation fee.

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20 Mar 2015 10:01:32
I am the last person you'd probably want to see on your pages, I am however disappointed Everton didn't go through. I guess you could say I am one of these old school fans that actually doesn't have a big problem with Evertonians. there is also the small matter that of the selfish side I hope English clubs do well in Europe generally so the EPL points ranking system isn't affected, hence a European place isn't taken away in the future.

On another note, my blood granddad played for Everton back in 1963-1965 until his life unfortunately came to a pre-mature end in a car crash, your club holds some sentiment so my opinion is based not on being a red but being a supporter of Merseyside.

Your manager, El Roberto is clearly not the right man to help Everton achieve the things they want to achieve. I guess all I am doing here is echoing your opinions, my view is being a cup manager isn't good enough these days, I posted on the Liverpool page that most clubs (maybe not yours) can't survive on the odd cup run they have to be able to sustain consistency in the league aswell. He is showing no signs of changing his stance, formation or the term most used in football these days 'philosophy'. Well to have a philosophy they say you need to be a philosopher and Roberto isn't that nor a premier league manager if I'm being brutally honest. The big thing to accept sometimes is your way may not be the right way, we are in a day of age where systems and formations get easily sussed out and you have to be openly flexible to change things when they aren't working. He is showing no desire to change anything and his idiotic comments give the fans no particular hope or insight into what's ahead for your club.

I don't think you will get relegated, nor do I hope you get relegated as that would remove 2 important English fixtures off the calendar which I look forward to every year. There are teams worse off than you and neither do I think it would be the way forward to revolt against him in the stands with bed sheets and spray paint which i'm sure won't happen, just see the season out and re-look at your options in the summer. If things remain the same there is no immediate improvement and Bill sticks with him for another season I think the problem is at a much wider scale than El-Roberto and it's the people above that would need questioning.

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20 Mar 2015 11:09:19
FFS SACK MARTINEZ!!

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20 Mar 2015 11:13:43
Great post, we are not all the same mate, I quite like some of you ;-) . but your correct in all you state

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20 Mar 2015 11:28:01
ps who was your grandad?

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20 Mar 2015 12:11:49
Ha ha are a ok bunch when we haven't had 7 or 8 lagers tipped down our necks before a derby. My Granddad was Barrie Rees, No 9.

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20 Mar 2015 09:52:38
just woke up has he been
sacked yet?

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20 Mar 2015 11:16:27
would u have moyes back . I think it could happen better devil u know at least he can defend

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20 Mar 2015 09:29:55
well lads last night was sickening to say the least!! a was lost for words last night staring at the tv. rubber toe really is clueless a knew as soon as a seen alcaraz in the team and barry it was game over, both 30+ one was part of the wigan side that conceded a bucket load and got relegated. I could tear right in lads - none of our senior players this season have been good enough, and were in deep trouble- 9 over 31+ who need replaced - no european football next season- coleman barkley rom mirallas could leave potentially!!

will sack martinez change any of this as much as I want him gone!! what you think ed, worrying times

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20 Mar 2015 11:17:26
cant head the ball so wheres shane duffy gone?

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20 Mar 2015 11:42:59
After last nights disaster the club chairman and board have to act (If not they should go as well).
I agree with dazza that there needs to be a total overhaul of management and players.
OUT- So called Mgt: Martinez and assistants.
OUT Players: Howard (past sell buy date), Alcaraz (Rubbish), Distin (Good servant just past it now), Pienaar (Is he still at the club?), Kone (very poor striker), Barry (OAP), Mirallas (AWOL), Hibbert (great servant and clubman but past it now). Lennon (too expensive), Mc Geady (crap).

That is 10 players of this years squad that we must replace so we must get a good manager in, someone like Kloop who knows the German league and who can pick up good quality players - he done a great job at Dortmund.
Whoever we get it is a massive Job and Martinez is definitely not able for it. We will probably avoid relegation this season but if that pleb is left there any longer he will only bring us down. I hate the sight of him and all the rubbish he talks he is an embarrassment at this stage.
Also a big well done to all the supporters who travelled I hope they all get back home safely - we are all very proud of you. The Board, Mgt and players let you down badly last night and it should not be tolerated any longer.
Roy

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20 Mar 2015 13:17:04
klopp will never leave dortmund for us mate not a chance the situation reminds me off the ferguson leaving utd saga . did moyes leave us because he knew we were a sinking ship?. am maybe being harsh there but unless drastic action is taken were in trouble . drop the below par players now roberto, save our season
joel
browning stones galloway garbutt
besic mcarthy/rotate gibson
mirallas barkley naismith
lukaku

jags, howard coleman baines , have been too comfy for years and this season don't look bothered, drop them! wether there fan favs or true blues etc, the table doesn't lie, that starting 11 will only get stronger season by season

goodbye the lads from moyes era whole new fresh start
pienaar- sell for minimum
distin - release
hibbert release (coaching role )
osman - (coaching role)
alcaraz - release
distin release
barry release
kone - release

promote a few youngsters - long, ledson mcaleny
sign 5 players in summer - 2015/2016 - new look everton

stubbs as manager

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20 Mar 2015 09:29:50
Rrrr well boys and girls, at least you went further than " THE RED S~~~E ", hoover the dust off that open top bus and get around the City at the weekend to celebrate. Come on the hoops, help send them down. Are you have'n that Daveyboy, hehehehehehe.

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20 Mar 2015 11:36:48
''Hoover the dust off that open top bus ''

Hello Waro this wretched bus you mention was in a bit a state

Apparently a Kopite keeps taking it on practice runs, last season for the PL title and this season for just about everything .

However hope springs eternal eh Jim?

Hold on wait I almost forgot ''hehehehehehe.''

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20 Mar 2015 13:36:48
we heard youse had a open top bus for sale from last season, but didn't get used when somebody slipped

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20 Mar 2015 09:10:21
To run a football club u have to be ruthless to be a manager u have to be ruthless kenwright martinez says it all to nice don't like to make the tough decisions WELL GET SOME1 WHO FECKIN WILL Before its to latttteeee!!!!

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20 Mar 2015 11:46:26
Football clubs are a business these days if RM was in charge of the Gas suppliers we'd all be freezing and he'd be quickly out of a job!

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20 Mar 2015 19:32:08
Wakka. if Martinez was in the real world applying for a job he wouldn't have been appointed taking his past experience into consideration. At least if I was conducting the interview.

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20 Mar 2015 09:02:13
Just after a census Blues, is there anyone on here who actually wants Martinez to stay now.

i admit I was in love with the guy last season but that love has vanished big time, I want him gone now but will probably have to wait until Monday morning at 0900 hrs (after QPR)

We won't go down that I am damn sure of, only reason is because there are some woeful teams below us, but he needs to go, his decisions are awful, I can't stand listening to his voice either anymore.

Come on Bill, you read these pages, come out and give him the vote of confidence as we all know whenever a manager gets it they are gone in 10 days

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20 Mar 2015 10:24:33
id like him to stay but not as manager maybe a coach wid the youth teams he's seems like a nice guy but tooo nice to be in charge

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20 Mar 2015 10:41:57
Not so much strange but baffling why we have not heard a word from Bill Kenwright. I refuse to believe that he is happy with the bloke he picked to take our Club forward, so what I wonder is going on. You often hear the chant at Football grounds 'you don't know what your doing' well this bloke really does not, and god knows what his 2 IC is saying to him.

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20 Mar 2015 11:18:23
Think he should stay till the summer and see if these 5 possible spainiards arrive.2 will have to be permanent, distin, alcarez to leave, maybe the board need tp spend tv money not just the incoming money from sales. Fellani only paid the price of lukaku and his form is improving.garbutt needs to start more and maybe more goals will arrive from corners.lets get behind them and make sure we get our points to stay up.

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20 Mar 2015 08:16:55
So according to Martinez last night was everybody's fault. Those who spent a lot money to travel to Kiev, it's your fault. The thousands of us sitting at home in increasing frustration and anger who could see that Alcaraz needed hauling off after 35 minutes, it's all our fault. Peter Reid and Kevin Ratcliffe who had the temerity to say what we've been saying all season, Matt Smith on ITV last night who broke ranks with the media with his 'Wigan couldn't defend and now Everton can't' comment you are also to blame.
Martinez do us all a favour and if you are going to go, go now.

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20 Mar 2015 07:44:50
oh well my forward thinking was to book May 27th last July flight and hotel 4 nights for the final, now its just a ciggy run lol
i have always gave RM100% but he has to go

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20 Mar 2015 07:35:54
i cannot believe we played Alcaraz the whole match and then RM says finishing was the difference! which match was he watching, defensively we were terrible, and I hate to say it but RM should go now before more damage is done.

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20 Mar 2015 09:03:48
shocking decision that Pat, how he couldn't see that Stones needed to replace him I don't know, oh yeh I do, he is stubborn

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20 Mar 2015 07:34:43
Martinez resorted to his favourite tactics and favourite players (howard barry Alcaraz coleman all hopeless) and got his favourite result.

This man will never learn - as soon as player and fan power gets us a win - it just gives him some breathing space to go back to his old methods and then we get beaten again

He has to go whilst we still have some good players at the club - otherwise we're looking at a summer exodus

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20 Mar 2015 07:45:43
I think Colemans display was down to Alcatrash being awful mate

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20 Mar 2015 08:36:52
I disagree Murph, both were awful but in my opinion Alcaraz was the main culprit for 3 of the goals. Playing as a centre back means you need to win headers. He barely won any all night.

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20 Mar 2015 08:53:35
You are probably right Tom, I may have been looking through tinted glasses mate as like Coleman a lot, well I did

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20 Mar 2015 07:21:28
Would have loved it if Peter Reid could have got into the dressing room at half time and given players and manager etc a 'pep talk'.

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20 Mar 2015 06:24:00
I have just read our dear leader's post match interview. So the reason we lost is we didn't take our chances and they scored good goals! The bloke gets more ridiculous every week. That makes the comment after the 3-2 defeat at St James Park earlier this season sound slightly less stupid, ("so Roberto can you take any positives from that performance"? "Ci Señor, well I was pleased to see that Arouna Kone looked fit and sharp"). We'll gloss over the appalling defending for each goal then shall we. Does he berate his players in the changing room, or is he so unbelievable stupid that he thinks that the performance last night was acceptable! I couldn't care less if we had scored 6 goals, we still conceded 5 goals. 9 points and then we need to get shot of him. I also suggest we opt for a new captain next season as jagielka doesn't even deserve a place in the team. Alcaraz, McGeady, Atsu (back to Chelsea), Barry, Pienaar, Kone, Howard need to be gone in the summer. Deadwood that needs replacing. Would rather hope that Lennon, Gibson, Stones and Ossie are back in the starting line up at the weekend. It's a shame that it's not worked out, as last season we played well and he was a breath of fresh air, but he has been massively found out this season. Nice bloke as he most likely is, but deluded, arrogant and very tactically inept. What makes it worse is I don't think BK has the bottle to get rid. So here's to another season of irrelevant post match interviews and Gareth Barry playing it sideways. Can hardly wait.

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20 Mar 2015 07:07:43
Dont you guys have some mural of him at Goodison? it would be pretty embarassing to have to remove that mural of the Messiah

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20 Mar 2015 07:32:54
Talkin about messiahs hows your balloteli getting on mate

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20 Mar 2015 07:35:53
Random you come second after chocking it.spent millions in the closed season and now fighting to make 4th people in glass housers.

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20 Mar 2015 02:48:37
love this site and used to give my opinion a lot but this year I have been embarrassed to even see what's been said. i'm utterly shocked how a solid team look so bad at defending. I could easily berate alcaraz for not even been able to actually win a header he looked like he'd never played before half the time but for the most part our back 5 have been shocking all season.

granted RM has had them on the ball for 90% of games (that's how it feels) but we make mistakes too often, were so lucky we have the dross we do currently do in the prem because in previous seasons we could of been right in the mix.

we spend serious money following everton maybe someone should realise this

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20 Mar 2015 01:34:02
Down, distraught, angry, peed off, etc, etc. And I could go on, but I won't, because every poster on here knows where I'm coming from. I've thought long and hard before writing this post, since the end of that debacle tonight my head has been spinning with so many emotions, all of which surround anger. I, like the rest of you, could give a 101 reasons, and probably more, as to why we are in the mess we're in, Martinez, Kenwright, money and so on are just a few. At my age fellas (49), I've seen the good the bad and the ugly of our great football club, both at home and away, domestically and in Europe, and tonight was certainly down there amongst the low points. But the overall point I'm trying to make lads/ladies, is that when the dust settles, not just from tonight but indeed the whole season, then we'll take our summer break, brush ourselves down, and we'll turn up again on the first day of the new season ( hopefully still in the top flight ) full of optimism, because it's what we do, as Evertonians. We've all got blue blood on this website, and as much as it hurts like hell at the moment, and my God it does, WE'LL SUPPORT YOU EVERMORE

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{Ed025's Note - good post park ender..

20 Mar 2015 00:43:13
For ed 25, without brown nosing, you are better informed the most of us. so, without asking you to expose your contacts, can you offer any insight into why The chairman has not eiher fired martinez, or come out with a supporting statment. We are all understandable up-set, but, everyone is totally confused as to the silence. Their seem no one at the top, who is even concerned about the present danger to the club.Considering the situation, this seems very strange.

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{Ed025's Note - i am not as they say itk JCW, i do get bits of info but im afraid there is nothing on BK, as some are saying the silence is deafening, i really think he will be given till the end of the season though mate..unfortunately..

20 Mar 2015 05:45:36
I disagree Ed, if we get beat on Sunday he will be on the dole on Monday

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{Ed025's Note - dont say that murf...everyone will want us to get beat mate.. :)

20 Mar 2015 00:18:04
Ok boys 58 year old man here in tears at a total commitment of hari kari this has to be the end for the lunatic in charge it was like kids at school chasing around after the ball I can't remember any player in his position at any time during the game no midfield because jimmy mac covering barry does coleman ever beat a man anymore always leaving the right wide open baines the same as for the others jags alcaraz and howard I think its goodnight bring in robles galloway and stones besic with mcarthy in midfield and have barclay behind a front three of atsu mirrales and lukaku its a foregone conclusion we need nine points or I will along with all my fellow blues will be watching championship football next season then gutless kenwright wil never be able to sell look out for headline news in the echo tomorrow news on the new ground will probably rear its head as a smokescreen

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19 Mar 2015 23:35:49
I don't know about anyone else but I'm dreading Sunday. Defeat and we are right back in it. Confidence will be on the floor and no doubt some will be thinking about beeches and sangria.

For next season I think we will have a new manager and probably kev, kak and coleman will be gone.

Plenty of money for the new manager IF we stay up and the nightmare of this season well and truly over.

NSNO

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{Ed025's Note - sooner the better john..

20 Mar 2015 09:02:17
Well u can be sure after watchin that lastnite qpr r rubbing there hands zamora is sure to play along side austin and they'll bombard us wid long balls god help us when we play southampton 1 of the tightest defences and when they play us pele and long up front ahhhhhhh

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19 Mar 2015 23:20:38
Although it's clear that with the squad we have got we have under achieved this year I hate to say it but you can see how much we over achieved under moyes. Not that I'd have the Scottish person back but he did so a good job didn't he. Anyway if we do stay up this year I really do fear for next year. U can count on kenright sticking with the fraud and if we lose one or two players we will be In serious danger of getting relegated something which was unthinkable under moyes and for a club who spends as much as we do I think we all took that for granted. Back to reality folks!

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19 Mar 2015 22:59:17
Like Swan we are everton we don't win .
Yes okay but tonight we have been humiliated and surely we are better than that.
What is interesting is the 3% Martimez supporters who feel we are wrong and that they know that everything will be ok in the end.
WRONG!

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