Everton Banter Archive May 20 2016

20 May 2016 22:29:45
Stones is poor that is why it is said but so is sterling and Barkley so was bale but looks at the valuation people say rom is crap weren't for him we were down full stop.

21 May 2016 01:05:25
Bale was poor :')

21 May 2016 06:51:01
Sterling was overpriced and greedy, loves himself too but there is talent there, not 50 million pound worth but that's what City paid so that's what he was worth

Barkley was class and that's why top clubs were looking at him, cue Roberto with his tactics, "Ross I don't want you to run at their defence because you look good when you do that, you have power, pace and both feet, Ross try your best not to pass forward either, Id prefer it if you just done 5 yard lay offs or passed back, I know Ross it doesn't help us but at least we keep posession, and finally Ross under no circumstances are you ever to track back, tackle and retrieve the ball"

Bale was unbelievable, running 50 yards whilst dribbling around 3 players then slotting it in the net from 25 yards, that was Bale, cue £85 million transfer fee

I disagree with your statement that we were down if Rom never scored his goals, it would have simply meant Roberto got sacked earlier.

21 May 2016 07:32:25
Stones is poor? Barkley, sterling and Bale are/ were poor? Have you been out in the sun without a hat on?

21 May 2016 08:02:46
Stones is not poor. Stones is top quality. That is why every club in Europe want him. The problem is he is 21 years old and people forget that he was given first team responsibilities at a very young age for a center back. Then when he had made a few mistakes and should have been rested, he was continually picked. We were thin on the ground because Distin had been "shifted out". Mori had not yet been signed and the crowd were getting on his back. I remember reading stupid comments about how Martinez gave youngsters a go and Moyes held them back. It was Moyes who signed him. It was Moyes who gave debuts to Barkley, Stones and even Rooney, Baxter and Vaughan all at 16. But Moyes knew to blood young players slowly and keep their feet on the ground. Perhaps that is another part of why Stones thinks he is Franz Beckenbaur at times?

21 May 2016 08:47:58
My two penny opinion for what it's worth.

Stones - I've wondered if he's overrated but deep down there's a part of me that thinks with a proper manager he'd be top class.

Barkley - again with a proper manager he'd be top class, needs to learn to let the ball go a bit quicker though.

Bale - top of the range, would walk into any prem team.

Sterling - I have no time for women beaters. The most overrated player I've ever seen and wouldn't get into my team if I was that lucky to manage one. You only get 11 players, can't afford to carry one for the vast majority of the season. I don't think he'll last 5 minutes with Pep.

21 May 2016 08:53:20
Distin probably got the boot because he disagreed with martinezs tactics especially when it came to the defense maybe the truth will come out now.

21 May 2016 08:58:45
Bang on Degsy. Stones has been mismanaged as a player and abused by his own supporters. Constantly getting slagged off here and other Internet forums, slagged off by the boo boys on the terraces and left in the firing line by his own boss when he should have been taken out of it. Personally, I'll be gutted if he goes - even for £100m. Same goes for Barkley. People forget that these are kids. Remember how he was treated by our own "fans" when we played Barnsley in the cup? Who'd blame him for getting off.

21 May 2016 09:53:33
Moyes Moyes Moyes! Can we please stop talking about this guy.

He treated us like dirt!
If one of my mates treated me the way Moyes treated EFC and us fans then I would proper chin him if I saw him again.

It actually angers me that there is a possibility he could return.

21 May 2016 11:05:17
I agree ToffeeAce. I feel like I'm always having a go at Degsy but it's nothing personal. Degsy every post you have at the moment is about how great Moyes is. You obviously want him back. I do actually appreciate that he did a good job with limited funds, and probably helped lay the groundwork for the clubs current situation. I also actually enjoyed the football sometimes. I don't even care about the Manchester United thing, I'm over it. But let's not kid ourselves that he's the next Brian Clough like. The fact is now we need to get a manager capable of winning us the league (not saying that will necessarily happen even if we get a top quality manager) . I will go out on a limb here and say that I believe that Moyes will never win any of the top leagues (by which I mean ours, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A or Ligue 1) . That is not the kind of man we need at our club.

20 May 2016 20:03:11
I think Rafa would do a good job . like he has at all the clubs he has managed.

20 May 2016 20:32:20
Rafa as manager? Are you guys for real. he'd be a ticking time bomb. You think the fans reaction to martinez was bad. Can you imagine the reception rafa would have with similar results.

20 May 2016 20:45:17
Anomblue: I agree that he would be an "Agent Benitez" protest waiting to happen at the first sign of poor results.
I also wonder if he'd want too much control over the club's affairs - which would not sit comfortably in the structure that Mr Moshiri might decide to put in place (e. g. a Director of Football) .

21 May 2016 09:01:12
Benitez got sacked from inter and madrid enough said.

20 may 2016 18:54:51
to all liverpool fans. ye can take ye flags down now hahaha.

20 May 2016 19:43:08
proof that them lot still live in the past. still flying them flags hoping its not true hahahaha.

20 May 2016 18:32:05
Ed's, do you believe the Mourinho story to be a smoke screen to make everton fans happy?

{Ed002's Note - I don't know of any Mourinho story and there are no smoke screens Lanny.}

20 May 2016 20:26:37
The only smoke involved in these rumours is the smoke being blown up our rear-ends by mischievous wind-up merchants on social media who instigate these stories and all those posters/ twitterers/ etc. who repeat the stories ad nausem and all of the gullible fans desperate for any gossip no matter how far-fetched :- (

20 May 2016 16:09:14
. so Lukaku wants to leave to play Champions league football. um, so why would he join Chelsea then? Didn't they only finish 1 place above us in the league placings? Bayern Munich more likely. or maybe Man U. But they're not in CL either. lol.

20 May 2016 17:06:46
If he goes to a club outside of CL then he's going to look a bit of a tool. We'll have the last laugh though as he will only go at the price we set. Three years left on his contract says we decide the fee and not his old man.

Our position is strong here. The papers will have their say but not much influence to us on price.

{Ed002's Note - I suspect he would consider clubs are are not in teh CL this season but will likely be back in it next season.}

20 May 2016 17:49:18
I agree papers can pluck stories out of the air saying he is going or his agent says he is going, and unless these players like Lukaku and stones go to cl clubs then they will look stupid but let's think about it business side of things the pair have a value of £100million start point so we're in full control no one else and Moshiri knows this, he will try and keep and a lot of that depends on manager he brings in. But if we do sell then £100million on top of what's going to be a bigger budget anyway, that's a lot of money for 2 players and one of them stones has had bad season your buying potential, personally I think stones should go play in Spain, he needs to play under someone who can make him the top defender he should be.

20 May 2016 13:55:44
Is there any real interest in unai emery of Seville or are we just being linked with him because they beat Liverpool in the final?

{Ed002's Note - No interest has been shown.}

20 May 2016 14:45:37
Cheers ed.

20 May 2016 12:06:50
Think a new manager is needed ASAP all this talk even it being mostly paper talk about all our player being linked to other clubs send ripples throu the team and if our players go into the Euros and get tapped by other player for other sides we will end up like Southampton with an empty training Field at the beggining of the season but without Koeman to sort it out!

20 May 2016 18:37:01
The season isn't over yet. Have a little patience. It's hard I know but we have to make sure this is the right one as this could be the most important summer we've had in a long time.

20 May 2016 10:43:50
chelsea £100 million for stones and lukaku or do a deal £75 million and cahill and remy. that's what i say.

20 May 2016 11:25:27
Gary Cahill isn't good enough haha is a far better cb and Remy is never going to be a replacement for Rom, is he going to score 20+ goals? C'mon aim a bit higher lad.

20 May 2016 13:48:10
Be a good second striker.

20 May 2016 00:50:24
I think its down to De Boer and Favre.

Just my guess.

De Boer has to finish up with Ajax before he can talk.

Favre is close with Wenger, who is close I suppose with Moshiri.

Both would be excellent, but based on my limited knowledge, I think I'd pick Favre He seems to have done a great deal in bringing a team up to compete in the Bundesliga and the bit I caught on his exciting style of play seems to me to be appealing.

In any case, great days ahead. COYB.

20 May 2016 09:35:25
New Blue

Wouldn't be the end of the world with FDB however my choice out of those '2' would be LF too mate for similar reasons.

20 May 2016 10:32:28
Me too NBinU, Favre 1st then FDB, knowing us probably neither :)