Everton Banter Archive August 21 2015

 

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21 Aug 2015 20:09:41
Try this one Blues

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Will Yarmolenko be playing for us within two weeks, i'm normally positive but seems too good to be true

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22 Aug 2015 00:29:54
He may sign but then get taken out in training 'accidentally' by McGeady.

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22 Aug 2015 00:59:11
And a very strange training injury according to ssn.McGeady accidentally took yarmolenko out with a trailing leg and a mash hammer.

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22 Aug 2015 08:14:56
Hamstring injury guarenteed!!

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21 Aug 2015 19:33:04
Just googled Leonardo Rodriguez, nearly fainted he's 48 for ffs.
Then googled Leandro Rodriguez says he plays for us.
Other search engines are available as are other red wines to the one I am drinking.

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21 Aug 2015 20:57:54
He's 22 and a striker. There are some great videos of him scoring goals on U/T. Be a good buy and looks like signing tomorrow with Mori. Yarmolenko will be later in the week

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21 Aug 2015 21:04:40
Good one Tedster. Not in Web Design by any chance?

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21 Aug 2015 21:26:43
No DuncsMum too technical for me I've only just learned to copy and paste.

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{Ed025's Note - me too tedster..i will be skyping next mate.. :)

21 Aug 2015 17:36:05
Eds, if we keep hold of Stones, will we except to see his agent demanding a new contract and vastly improved salary etc?

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{Ed025's Note - i would expect so swinners..

22 Aug 2015 00:30:44
I'd give Stones whatever Distin was on and much more, he deserves it.

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21 Aug 2015 17:17:52
Hey ed I do enjoy a good conspiracy. Yeah some were right they are also consistent threats too. But so are we. I just think last season was a blip. No matter what one says having the extra EL matches did affect our form, our squad is not big enough for these extra games.

Roll on Sunday.

COYB

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22 Aug 2015 02:57:13
Extra games can affect tiredness not thr brand of football we choose to play, he mixed it up against southampton so hopefully more of the same.

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21 Aug 2015 19:03:11
Ideally, I would like three things in the next few days: Stones to stay, Yarmalenko to sign and avoid defeat on Sunday. Sadly, I think that none of these will happen. Time to be realistic. On another note, I have always liked Dwight Gayle and would have him as an impact from the bench, I've seen him be quality on many Such occasions.

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{Ed025's Note - now thats what i call lowering your sights lant..

21 Aug 2015 19:10:43
So Ed, which of the first three do you fancy us to pull off?

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{Ed025's Note - all 3 lant.. :)

21 Aug 2015 21:07:43
This Yamalenko bloke's agent and boss are nought more than touts. So far the only Team he has not been offered to is my Grand Son's under 9's side.

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21 Aug 2015 17:34:34
Think a cheeky punt on defoe wld be worth a gamble, obviously not happy at Sunderland and can still score goals for fun

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21 Aug 2015 16:32:10
I feel dorry for our club sometimes. Because they don't come out and name specific players and acting like gentleman and abiding by the rules of the game, they get more stick from our own fans than others.

We're a proper club boys not like plastic ones like Chelsea. Be patient it seems good things are on the horizon.

COYB NSNO

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{Ed025's Note - dont be dorry mate.. :)

21 Aug 2015 17:48:07
You can look it at like that. You can also look at it as a player we own got done for a drunken hit and run and the club have said nothing which personally I see as far from gentlemanly and actually quite vulgar. Even if he ain't getting the sack we should still be condoning this stuff. Before someone says not proved yet, he was breathalysed over the limit what more proof is required? The guy spent the night in a cell and is simply awaiting punishment not clearance.
You could also argue that pretending to build a new stadium every time season tickets are up for renewal is a bit low and certainly not the act of a gentleman.
I love our club. I know the board members and ultimately it scares me knowing the people they are. Look they are not criminals they are not satan on earth but they are businessmen with no association to the club at all. The 2nd biggest share holder is a life long previous season ticket holder at spurs. He is not an Evertonian

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{Ed025's Note - i think you mean NOT condoning it svenny mate..

21 Aug 2015 19:49:20
You think right ed

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21 Aug 2015 21:24:13
Yeah best buds I bet. Anyway when you get your head out of your arse what gibson has done is not a reflection on our club. He is the one who has committed the crime is and is going to court which is exactly what would happen in any other business. What happens after is private between the club and employee.

Read this whenever you get off your high horse.

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21 Aug 2015 22:16:33
I'm not on a high horse mate just rate drink driving in my top 3 dispicable crimes, simply no excuse. So many alternatives especially if you have cash. It is just a complete lack of care for everyone around you.
In terms of best buds. Far from it. I have explained many times my connection to the club and it's twofold, fairly coincidently. One is related to where my father lives the other is related to a family friend who has since gone on to be massively successful in America and happens to own a large share of our club. Last time I went in to detail I was threatened with action, the eds will back me up.
If you have been done for drink driving fair enough everyone makes mistakes I am far from perfect, I just think a guy earning that type of cash in the public eye where half your job is playing football the other half is being a brand ambassador has failed massively in his job description. Also in any industry when you earn a large amount your contract does have stipulations about criminality which I'm certain Gibbo has broken

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21 Aug 2015 15:31:02
I saw this quote from Mourinho did make me chuckle.

Questioned regarding Chelsea's interest in either player, Mourinho has refused to comment on either story. "I don't speak about players from other clubs, especially when the championship is on," he said ahead of the Premier League trip to West Bromwich Albion, according to The Daily Telegraph. "So, I'm quiet." He added: "I know [Juventus manager Massimiliano] Allegri was all summer speaking about Oscar and Ramires, but I won't do that."

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21 Aug 2015 14:59:11
Now that his Agent has made public the fact that Everton are supposed to be in "advanced talks" with Dynamo Kiev, Yarmolenko, if we don't close this deal very quickly, will end up signing for an Italian or Spanish Club and I still wouldn't rule out another Premier League Club, coming in and offering more money! This is what we do over transfers, we drag our heels and haggle over money. Everton need to understand that "if we haggle & only pay peanuts. then we will only ever employ monkeys!!!" Yarmolenko is a class, quality attacking midfielder and would be a brilliant addition at Goodison. Whoever is representing Everton over in Monaco, meeting with the Kiev President should make sure they close this deal very quickly, He is a great midfielder with an eye for goal.The Transfer Fee of £15m is a fair price but if we don't move on this then Yarmolenko wil have his head turned by "bigger clubs". There is also a mention that "the RedS" are watching developments! read into that what you will. But all these comments about Everton waiting until the September 1st Deadline is stupid. get the players in NOW, before someone else signs them.PLEASE.

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21 Aug 2015 18:23:40
Things have been signed our end from what I understand it is about a medical and Kiev signing off on what they agreed on

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21 Aug 2015 18:46:33
Also depends on the player himself and his agent though mate. If they are after 100k+ per week then the deal isn't going to happen imo. Too much of a knock on effect, the other big names will want some sort of parity I reckon, could cause disharmony in the dressing room

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21 Aug 2015 13:50:38
Do you think we will sign Yarmolenko this weekend?

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21 Aug 2015 14:15:29
Mourinho quote ""I can't speak about a Juventus player, " Mourinho said.

"I know Allegri was speaking all summer about [Chelsea players] Oscar and Ramires, but I don't do that."

So talking about Stones does not count? Take the hint at 3 failed bids and a "Not For Sale" and stick it in your pie hole!!

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21 Aug 2015 15:11:22
Haha I read that quote and was thinking the exact same thing. What a smug crook he is.

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21 Aug 2015 14:01:23
the treaty of versailles was signed quicker than we can close a deal

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21 Aug 2015 14:53:56
Maybe, but they didn't have agents trying for a slice of the war reparations, or worries about image rights and TV money - I don't think Pathe were offering the same as today's satellite broadcasters, and social media in those days was just a couple of blokes talking down the pub - and newspapers really were the next day's fish and chip wrappers! Aaah - nostalgia just isn't like it used to be ;-)

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21 Aug 2015 13:26:28
We or any other club that don't have rich owners are powerless to big money offers its not a case weather we want to sell or not when big money offers come in its purely down to business your hands are somewhat tied, all this nonsense about rich clubs Man city Chelsea are not rich make that clear they have rich owners there is a big difference if Chelsea were still owned by Ken Bates do you think they will be top 4 no they bought the title just as Everton are trying to do that's not great management if clubs were given the same money to spend each year the table would be oh so different, top 4 clubs steal the best players from other clubs who have Chelsea produced Everton or Chelsea in last 10 years absolutely no one it's sad all the money spent on youth development projects and they still poaching the best talent

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21 Aug 2015 13:13:49
When questioned about John Stones Jose Mourinho said he doesn't like talking about other clubs' players. Hahaha, unbelievable, that's the equivalent of Floyd Mayweather saying 'Don't like flaunting money you know'. Brilliant, Mourinho's arrogance offends me. He's a great tactician but his transfers are not consistently good nor is he the messiah he thinks he is. Honestly don't think he will ever overtake Fergie as the best Premier League manager ever, no way.

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{Ed025's Note - egotistical big head for me swan..not you..mourinho.. :)

21 Aug 2015 16:09:35
Mourinho,Pelligrini,Mancini when He was at City. All these so called brilliant Coaches/Managers would be absolutely knackered and wouldn't have a clue if they had to actually build a Team,and not just ask the "Club Sugar Daddy" . ie. Abramovich at Chelski.The Glazers at United and Sheik Mansour at City. So just how much would Howard Kendall be worth/sort after if He was out there today. He like Fergie built a team from 5/6 young lads,local or otherwise,moulded them over a few years together then built his team around them by adding some fairly expensive players.& they played for the Club.not like these big name foreigners now. Making multi millionaires out of far too many mediocre players at a time when most of us can no longer even begin to think about going to the match,cos we can't afford it thesedays. This isn't football as I know it as it is all about greed!

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21 Aug 2015 11:52:54
Nothing but good news this morning from Martinez.

Stones has not asked for a transfer and two signings are very close.

Something before the weekend would be a perfect set up for the match. I'll be in Barcelona watching but my heart still in the grand old lady.

COYB NSNO

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{Ed025's Note - if your in barcelona john, try a bar called FERRAN 59...its quality mate and cheap..enjoy..

21 Aug 2015 14:25:48
John

go the Georg Payne in BCN cheap as chips €1 BOTTLE

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21 Aug 2015 16:25:58
On it. Flight in just over an hour, lands in another 2 off to villa then I'm hitting the bars. If I end up picking up a chick with a you know what then I'm blaming you two!

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{Ed025's Note - have a nice time john..and take a scrubby brush.. :)

21 Aug 2015 19:30:28
If you do pick a chick up with a you know what, then remember the old Xmas saying. its always better to give than to receive. have a good holiday mate :)

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21 Aug 2015 11:32:09
Sky use Footy Manager to analyse real life players. I.AM.DONE. In other news, if Yarmolenko doesn't happen I have to admit I will be absolutely gutted.

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21 Aug 2015 18:50:05
It's a strange one Swan but this has been going on for a few years if I remember right. I think the two brothers who invented the series are both blues and, under Moyes, we had some sort of access to their database when it was offered to clubs all those years ago

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{Ed001's Note - you still do have access to the scouting database, as do hundreds of clubs around the world who use it. The makers employ professional scouts on a worldwide network to get the stats they use.}

21 Aug 2015 11:20:37
Just what is the club's strategy? Is it to be like Southampton - regularly selling their better players for (admittedly) big money yet staying in the Premier League as part of the group just outside the "elite" wealthy Champions League clubs? If so, what's the point of RM creating a "golden generation" if we're just a proving ground for players to be fed to the "elite" clubs? At some point, we'll surely have earned enough through incoming transfer fees, TV money, etc., to have covered our debts and satisfied financial fair play - then what? If players like Holgate, etc., do prove to be successful, then they too will surely be taken by the "elite" clubs. That's fine, but we'd like some success along the way. Otherwise, we're just a vehicle for giving Premier League experience to players who'll go to other clubs. RM has said he'd like Premer League clubs to have "B " teams competing full-tine in the lower leagues so that young players get real experience in truly competitive matches. Well, it could be that Everton are the de facto "B" team for some of the "elite" clubs. Oh what a terrible dream!

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21 Aug 2015 11:03:56
OK - I'll rise to the bait ;-) If - and it's a big IF - the speculation is true about Stones putting in a transfer request, then I have two comments. Firstly, we've got history regarding our players leaving it to the last moment before forcing a move (the likes of Lescott and Arteta) when those moves could have been sorted out long before. Leaving them late might have given us a bigger fee than first offered, but it left little time to bring in replacements. Secondly, if the club hierarchy are asking Stones to put in the request so that it won't look like its the club who are seen to just be a selling/feeder club, then that won't wash. I'd go as far to say that if we transferred Stones, it'd be a damnng indictment of the club and its ambitions. I fear that any fee for Stones would be wasted on exorbitant fees and wages for other players who would not be half as good. So far, I'd say that RM has stuck to his word about transfers (incoming and outgoing), but if his assertion that Stones is not for sale turns out to be false, then he'd lose what little tolerance the fans have left.
One final point: Stones - unlike what Lescott did - has played with character and commitment while the media speculation has been fermenting, so credit to the man for that.
I just hope that - as I believe was agreed with Fellaini - we get Stones to stay on at Everton and if we don't get success and an "elite" club comes in for him in a year or two, then we'll le him move on.
Bottom line: I'm increasingly convinced that the club will transfer Stones, as long as the fee is a record for a defender AND I'm also resigned to us being treated by the media as an irrelevance and not even as plucky little Everton punching above their weight.
But hey - what the flip do I know? And if the club don't communicate better, then how the flip am I or any other fans supposed to know or what to believe?

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21 Aug 2015 11:20:37
Just what is the club's strategy? Is it to be like Southampton - regularly selling their better players for (admittedly) big money yet staying in the Premier League as part of the group just outside the "elite" wealthy Champions League clubs? If so, what's the point of RM creating a "golden generation" if we're just a proving ground for players to be fed to the "elite" clubs? At some point, we'll surely have earned enough through incoming transfer fees, TV money, etc., to have covered our debts and satisfied financial fair play - then what? If players like Holgate, etc., do prove to be successful, then they too will surely be taken by the "elite" clubs. That's fine, but we'd like some success along the way. Otherwise, we're just a vehicle for giving Premier League experience to players who'll go to other clubs. RM has said he'd like Premer League clubs to have "B " teams competing full-tine in the lower leagues so that young players get real experience in truly competitive matches. Well, it could be that Everton are the de facto "B" team for some of the "elite" clubs. Oh what a terrible dream!

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21 Aug 2015 12:39:46
Sid lay off the coffee Sid. Calm down before you burst a blood vessel.

No transfer request has been made. If there had though of course we should sell. Why keep an unhappy player? Also we don't always sell our top players. Liverpool have sold more than us over the last few years.

Deep breathes now.

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21 Aug 2015 14:33:19
BlueJohnUns: I've tried the decaf, but I still get the urge to vent my frustration by posting on this forum - I guess it's not the coffee that I'm addicted to, rather it's the need to pontificate ;-)

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21 Aug 2015 16:28:08
Haha. Love it Sid.

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21 Aug 2015 11:03:56
OK - I'll rise to the bait ;-) If - and it's a big IF - the speculation is true about Stones putting in a transfer request, then I have two comments. Firstly, we've got history regarding our players leaving it to the last moment before forcing a move (the likes of Lescott and Arteta) when those moves could have been sorted out long before. Leaving them late might have given us a bigger fee than first offered, but it left little time to bring in replacements. Secondly, if the club hierarchy are asking Stones to put in the request so that it won't look like its the club who are seen to just be a selling/feeder club, then that won't wash. I'd go as far to say that if we transferred Stones, it'd be a damnng indictment of the club and its ambitions. I fear that any fee for Stones would be wasted on exorbitant fees and wages for other players who would not be half as good. So far, I'd say that RM has stuck to his word about transfers (incoming and outgoing), but if his assertion that Stones is not for sale turns out to be false, then he'd lose what little tolerance the fans have left.
One final point: Stones - unlike what Lescott did - has played with character and commitment while the media speculation has been fermenting, so credit to the man for that.
I just hope that - as I believe was agreed with Fellaini - we get Stones to stay on at Everton and if we don't get success and an "elite" club comes in for him in a year or two, then we'll le him move on.
Bottom line: I'm increasingly convinced that the club will transfer Stones, as long as the fee is a record for a defender AND I'm also resigned to us being treated by the media as an irrelevance and not even as plucky little Everton punching above their weight.
But hey - what the flip do I know? And if the club don't communicate better, then how the flip am I or any other fans supposed to know or what to believe?

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21 Aug 2015 12:48:59
Sid as far as I am aware the club have consistently stated Stones is not for sale can't communicate much better than that. the problem is the media want news so keep putting statements saying this and that. I am not sure what else the club and RM can do. Its annoying as fans we are concerned but can't really do anything about it. We could if we wanted to be mischievous and start posting unsolicited rumours on the web about other clubs internal goings on, some journo's would pick it up and run with it without checking any sources but then that would be stooping to there level.

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21 Aug 2015 11:31:41
Boss how every time we look at a defender its a "replacement for Stones" do the media not realise we got rid of 2 defenders this summer and need cover for Stones and Jags?

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21 Aug 2015 11:44:32
They don't mate, silly.

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21 Aug 2015 12:53:10
Were not aloud a squad,just a team of eleven and subs

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21 Aug 2015 10:21:39
We want to build a young team not a team of geriatrics forget the likes of Dante, we need players who we will get at least five years service out of them.

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{Ed025's Note - im with you mate..

21 Aug 2015 09:03:22
Funes Mori deal to be completed today 5mill he's already on the plane today

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{Ed025's Note - he could be taking 2 inches off his door?.. :)

21 Aug 2015 09:55:44
that was poor that Ed, not up to your usual standard mate, in fact it was that poor it was funny mate

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{Ed025's Note - the old ones are the best degs.. :)

21 Aug 2015 08:26:39
My thoughts for this transfer window was to pray we kept hold of our better players with three or four astute but relatively modest squad additions on top. This was based on my belief that Martinez wouldn't be entrusted with a large budget after last season.
The transfer window is mental to say the least. Most of the links are fabricated and we all read them. Whilst some of the players who I quite fancied such as Ayew, Payet, Traore, Hallovic have gone elsewhere we move on. An earlier poster said, I think, he went to bed dreaming of Shaqiri. For me it would have been Shakira all day long. Now if I do dream about footballers they usually have a sublime left foot such as the likes of Suker, Hagi and Cruyff with apologies to our younger readers.
Now this brings me on to Yarmalenko, another great left foot and apparently within our reach. Airport Mole said EFC representatives were off to the South of France. Now BBC apparently say we are involved in a meeting in Monaco, halfwayish from here to Kiev. Now this player has been linked with the cream of Europe over the years yet no transfer has ever come off. Ukrainian red tape and the wealth of Kievs owners usually the stumbling block apparently. It is said he could have been on a free but signed an extension out of loyalty to enable the club to get a fee.
I hope the player really just wants to play in a bigger league and it may not be his wage demands that will break the deal. I was told that he had some tie in with Lukaku's agent to try and broker his transfer. If this is true this Raiola guy does worry me a bit. I just hope we do manage to land him and if we do the fans will be buzzing and he will certainly get a great welcome.
Now if we do sign him it sends out a big statement and I hope the biggest statement it sends out is to John Stones. I think the lad has behaved impeccably. He is a real talent and by today's crazy standards is probably underpaid. Definitely underpaid if on less than Gibson. Another £5m or so is nothing to Chelsea so they won't go away. However if we land Yarmalenko and the place is buzzing on Sunday and we can show we can live with and sometimes beat the top four John just may be convinced that he should stay. After all playing for us has never done a players international prospects any harm.
But what do I know. You live in hope.

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{Ed025's Note - great post tedster..

21 Aug 2015 09:37:12
Just to think if we could sign a striker like davor suker and a number 10 like hagi.

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21 Aug 2015 11:45:10
Brilliant post that mate.

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21 Aug 2015 13:25:25
Ed can we give this one the post of the transfer window award?!?

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{Ed025's Note - its certainly up there ace, there have been a few crackers this week mate and this was excellent..

21 Aug 2015 08:13:05
i hate to say it, but all you that don't like to hear stones is going to chelsea, wake up.he will be sold.better now than next year(anything can happen)and for a club with our finances it only makes sense.every player wants trophies and champions league.£40 million allows us to build that next step to keeping the team in the premiership for the next 10 years.we will never compete with the top 5 again unless we buy and sell or the club is sold to a billionaire.

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21 Aug 2015 09:45:34
Sorry your point is flawed if we keep buying and selling we will not get the consistency within the team to maintain a challenge. Say we sell a player buy 5 players and are at the top of the league by Jan, other clubs see we are a selling club and put offers in for our best players we then sell them all and buy some more players. Well this may be a great tactic for CM,FM and Fifa but its not going to work in real life. The best way for EFC to progress is to keep our best players and build a team around them. If it was me I would tell the other clubs to do one and if a player handed in a transfer request I would say fine and stick him in the reserves for the rest of the season especially if he is on a long term contract. I would happily sacrifice the money to be made to send the message to all the so called big clubs agents and greedy players that we are a club with a passion for the game not just in it for the money.

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{Ed025's Note - great in theory sa, but in reality only the richest clubs can afford to do that mate, it would be great though..

21 Aug 2015 10:06:21
why does it make sense to sell him when next season we are in line for a huge tv deal cash payout??

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21 Aug 2015 10:38:37
Sorry Dazza but why would it be better to sell now than next year? As I can only see him getting better surely next year would be better as we would get more for him?

Also your statement of a club with our finances I don't get according to all reports coming from the club we don't have any need to sell anybody to keep the wolf at bay. If we sell Stones for me it shows a complete lack of ambition within the club. The correct way to handle this has been how Martinez has which is to say he is absolutely not for sale.

You say that selling is the next step on keeping the club in the prem for the next 10 years. If we sold Stones we would be two defenders short of how we finished last season and for me it would be a sure fire way to bring us closer to going out of the prem.

You also say that we won't compete with the top 5 again. One way we certainly won't compete with them is if we keep selling off our best players to them.

We need to build on our squad not constantly sell our best to bring in players not fit to lace the boots of the ones we have sold.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont need convincing on that houghty mate..

21 Aug 2015 07:42:22
Everyone here rates Stones as do I. But let's get real. If we got 40 mil for him; a player who has played 20 odd premier league games that is good business IMO. My concern is we don't spend it! If he goes for that money it finally proves the EPL has totally lost its head.

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21 Aug 2015 08:03:19
By selling our best players now when apparently we don't need to it sends the wrong message and we will never be able to have any players other than average because if there good we will sell them for money therefor always being an average team at best. We've said he's not for sale so we should stick to that if we wanna cash in next year maybe we can do it on our terms and ours alone

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{Ed025's Note - i agree kingy..

21 Aug 2015 08:53:22
Smeggs if we got offered 40 million I would be happy mate, as long as it went on the team.

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21 Aug 2015 10:14:10
Ok then murf and and smeggs if we got 40 mil who would u buy?

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21 Aug 2015 10:43:13
12m would go to Barnsley mate. 28m is simply not enough to buy a quality replacement, cover, a qualitu number 10 and striker plus any others needed for depth. Silly selling for such a low fee.

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{Ed025's Note - it would be £6m swan..15% mate goes to barnsley..

21 Aug 2015 11:23:07
No wonder I didn't pass Maths til Year 13! Still, thankfully Martinez has said there is no offer too good not to turn down and it is up to him. I'm still not worried, the transfer request bs is just trying to stir trouble.

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21 Aug 2015 07:42:18
The yarmolenko deal is looking on sly soz mean sky have said they think fee is agreed 15m let's hope so to all you people who want bill out this will make u look silly to signing if we get it.

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21 Aug 2015 08:25:42
The bill out thing isn't just about this window it's about the last 16 years! But if he pulls this off he has done very well

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21 Aug 2015 08:53:52
Lad in work just said the Koppites are in for him now too, hope not

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21 Aug 2015 10:44:34
One signing means nothing, well done if he does it which is looking increasingly unlikely. Doesn't change the facts. 3 failed stadium moves, no investment from anyone and no communication with the fans, no excuse.

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21 Aug 2015 05:21:24
Right, thought I would Google this Ramiro Funes Mori, I have to admit, I was shocked, not because of anything concerning him, mostly, I was shocked because yet again it was all about Stones. First one from the Express and another from the Star. Both basically copying the other. We are signing Mori as a replacement for Stones, the Express have done this story and they have NOTHING, no sources, no nothing, they just assume Chelsea are closing in on Stones (remember that headline). The Star ran a similar story, almost the exact same, same pictures and same stuff. Their headline is Stones closing in on Chelsea move, wow, one switch around and they assume it makes it original. But you will love this, something worse than no source? A bad source. Apart from the usual 'well Everton have set Stones' price to 40m' (again, no source, everyone is running that bs and expect because it is repeated that it is a forgone conclusion). So after all this you're probablyb wondering 'who is the bad source', the Star's source, wait for it, is ANDY GRAY, their whole basis for Stones going to Chelsea is because a former player who has shown himself to be stupid which is why he was sacked but is well known to have a dislike towards Everton whenever he opens his mouth about us. The funny thing is, all he said was he will be shocked if Stones is still here at the end of August as Everton cannot reject 35m. So again, their big source and reasoning for Stones definitely leaving is a bias former player with not only no inside knowledge, but also clearly hasn't watched Football nor paid attention to ANYTHING that has happened this summer. Journalism at its finest, brilliant, unbelievable actually just how desperate these papers are for Stones to go.

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21 Aug 2015 07:27:50
I will be surprised if we let him go for anything less than 100m Swan, after all there are that many pundits that are on a percentage of the fee for getting him to Chelsea!
Think the two rags you mentioned are produced by the same people, their stories are always nearly identical.

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21 Aug 2015 09:02:06
Bbc are one of the only ones reporting that Mori will be a replacement for alcaraz and distin rather than stones, joke how the media have reported the situation

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21 Aug 2015 09:07:33
Swan thanks for the informative post, most of the papers ply us with bull most of the time but thanks for spending a bit of time and effort confirming what most of us thought.

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21 Aug 2015 09:41:08
Using Andy Gray as the source just goes to prove that these media outlets will do and say anything to boost sales. Personally taking notice from a booze addled, sexist, chauvinistic has been such as Gray just enhances the media's desperation.

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20 Aug 2015 23:45:17
ed are we in advanced talks or is this just speculation

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{Ed003's Note - I've never met you so put it down to speculation(I'm married).}

21 Aug 2015 04:28:35
Brilliant ed003 haha

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21 Aug 2015 07:28:49
hahahaha quality reply ed003!

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21 Aug 2015 08:21:37
Hahaha brilliant reply ed003.

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