Everton Banter Archive April 22 2018

 

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22 Apr 2018 21:28:28
I see in the papers it's saying brand is on his way, it also says he has 2 players in mind for his first 2 transfers, both in the dutch league, now i might sound abit negative towards dutch players, but haven't we got one already, that when he came had scored 20 goals from midfield ECT ECT and hasn't been able to get a sniff, why would we make the same mistake again, spurs did the same thing with Jansen. Scored for fun came over here wasn't good enough, we need to look in the tougher leagues for players, Spain, Italy, Germany where the standard of football is higher.

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22 Apr 2018 22:05:14
So we buy a Dutch player, who were not sure is good or bad because he hasn't been given a chance in a team playing well. Because of that we don't buy anymore Dutch players?
Apparently Sandro was a flop, so let's not buy anymore spanish lads either or Croatian.
Absolute rubbish.

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22 Apr 2018 22:17:04
Haha love it smit. Plus I'm pretty sure one of thems Mexican and the other morrocan.

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22 Apr 2018 22:46:44
Ye your right lozano from Mexico and ziechy however u spell it from Morocco also brands is meant to be big fan klassen read quote of his saying if he could sign one ajax player it would be klassen.

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22 Apr 2018 23:04:35
If he was good enough he would be playing in stead we have kids playing, sandro played and looked well out of his depth, I'm not talking about every Spanish player, it's the same in the English league there are good and bad players, but with klaasson he was one of the better dutch players and hasn't been anywhere near it, plus keoman tried playing him then soon had him on the bench and so did unsworth, 3 manager can't be wrong, dutch players these days don't seem to be able to come from the dutch league and play over here. so in my view try else where.

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23 Apr 2018 02:33:50
Yeah but again, neither of those two players are Dutch. There's a lot of great players to come from the Dutch league who aren't Dutch. Zlatan is a prime example. Piennar came through there too and was a great player for us. I know what you're saying mate but we can't write a league off because of a few of them haven't lived up to expectations.

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23 Apr 2018 06:55:02
The dark side bought a certain Suarez from the Dutch league, he didn't to to bad in the PL.

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{Ed025's Note - fair point KK..

23 Apr 2018 09:28:20
Certain Christian erikson was bought from the dutch league, remember him not setting the world alight in his first season for spurs. not saying in any shape or form that davy can get that standard but yeno.

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23 Apr 2018 10:33:03
Isnt the Turkish league an inferior league?

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23 Apr 2018 13:00:37
It's all depends on weather we can buy players and wait a year for them to adjust, we can't, we have struggled this season due to players not up to speed, we need players to come in and make an impact from the start, and yes the Turkish league is, and I'm still out on cenk, but at the moment beggars can't be choosy, scored 2 and missed 2 sitters, so let's just see how he turns out, Sam said he wasn't up to speed ECT but I thing he's got desperate and put him in as he had no other choice,

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Fraser Forster

22 Apr 2018 19:13:38
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Fraser Forster

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22 Apr 2018 18:26:37
Hopefully the Brands rumour is true and he's already signed woohoo.
If the Allerdyce meeting happens I hope he goes the same day. No point what so ever keeping him until after the season ends. The guy just upsets me with everything he does. Not playing players rubbish tactics and threatening Lookman. An absolute arse. I've never hated a manager so much as I have Allerdyce. Even with Koeman. I never wanted him but I only felt bad for him towards the end. Allerdyce just makes my blood boil. He see us coming and homed in on a massive pay day.

People get Wenger moving to any club let alone ours out of your head. 22 years at Arsenal the bloke lives and breathes Arsenal. The only management he may do. I repeat may do is with the French National side. Apart from that he's surely moving upstairs on the board.

HE'S NOT COMING TO EVERTON.

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22 Apr 2018 19:11:34
He will go to Japan as national manager imo but definitely not to us.

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22 Apr 2018 20:50:07
Sam is hoping it happens so he gets his pay off, will still get same for standing on the touch line, why do that when you can take the full pay and put your feet up next season.

If you were employed and had a 2 year contract, but know if you still got those two years full pay, would you burst your gut for two years, or take the 2 year salary without having to work those two years, I know which I would choose.

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23 Apr 2018 14:04:19
id make him stay and see out his contract, cleaning dressing rooms, sweeping stands etc, if WBA want him make them pay.

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22 Apr 2018 18:24:10
Just watching the end of City game and the pitch invasion, question is, of we won the league who would run onto the field?
I remember doing it after the Coventry result but as I'm now older and wiser and sat in the upper bullens I couldn't do it now.
I understand when lower league teams fans do it after beating the big boys but really its not a shock City winning the league so why the invasion? Just my thoughts.

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22 Apr 2018 08:46:04
Hey Ed 025 I see in the Sunday rags today, the Everton Board are to convene this week to discuss whether Big Sam goes or stays this summer if this is true surely the Board especially Mr Moshiri must take note of most of the fans and get rid and appoint a new manager, I personally would like to see Fonesca myself a young guy with plenty of ambition or even Wenger maybe if he would come to us, seems we have ties with him through our owner and also Usmanov, this could be crucial this summer as to what happens at Everton, what's your take on this mate cheers.

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{Ed025's Note - until the meeting is over its all speculation GB, i would hope he will be ditched but im not certain he will, wenger is a manager i admire but i dont think he is the right fit for us personally and would like to see a progressive young manager given the gig mate..

22 Apr 2018 13:36:48
I would not worry Ed25,the survey results will have been filtering through, hence the meeting this week, I know nothing surprises us at Everton any more, but even I cannot see Sam here next season on the back of those survey results, would not be surprised if he is gone before our final game, so have a nice cognac, stick the pogues fiesta song on and embrace the big broom about to descend on Goodison to make massive sweeping changes, the revolutions just around the corner. Audios Sam and Walsh, welcome Brands and hopefully Fonsesca.

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{Ed025's Note - love it nev..

22 Apr 2018 14:02:16
I will at Goodison tomorrow night, if Sam catches wind of the board meetingi, I fully expect him to play an attacking team, may even call Vlasic into the team along with a couple of others, just to make a statement as if to say we won, what’s the problem, with the likes of Merson and the other pundits, along with the press all up his-backside and slating the fans and the board.

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22 Apr 2018 14:30:43
Oops pressed submit too quickly there, he will pick Vlasic and might surprise us with Klassen, if we lose he says that’s why I did not select them, if we win he will say it was a matter of getting Everton safe, now I can pick these players for the remainder, win win for Sam.

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22 Apr 2018 16:50:35
What makes you think that, Ed?

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{Ed025's Note - in my view hugo the game has moved on and the wengers of this world are a dying breed, he basically runs arsenal from top to bottom and that is very difficult these days even for someone of his ability, i think he would make a very good DOF for someone but arsenals recent decline is not a coincidence imo mate..

22 Apr 2018 20:49:30
Sorry, Ed. Great answer about Wenger but I meant about Sam Allardyce not leaving. Should have made it clearer.

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{Ed025's Note - oh right hugo, everyone thinks sam leaving is set in stone and i know hes a big head but he seems to think hes staying, some will say he has achieved his brief and we can kick on from here, god i hope not but after nigh on 60 yrs of supporting this club nothing would surprise me mate..

22 Apr 2018 20:58:24
Good post bignev will be waiting anxiously for the team sheet tmw night to see what way Sam goes, this meeting I think may change how he sets his team up but it should be too little too late.
I just hope the board see sense and say he goes at the end of the season I think if they came out and said he was staying the fans would be hostile and it's not what we want for our football club.

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22 Apr 2018 21:00:07
I agree about many being presumptive about SA's departure. Me included. We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully FM has learnt from last Summer!

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{Ed025's Note - the meeting should be interesting hugo..

22 Apr 2018 21:04:38
To be a fly on the wall, eh!

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{Ed025's Note - very much so mate..

22 Apr 2018 12:00:33
Hi eds on a different subject I can't get my head around how Sunderland have been confirmed as relegated. I'm looking at the table and it is still possible to end on 40 points and a better goal difference than Bolton who are 4th from bottom. I think I'm missing something :-)

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{Ed001's Note - it is because two of the teams above them face each other and so can't both drop points.}

22 Apr 2018 14:22:41
Ok thanks ed.

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{Ed001's Note - I did wonder myself when you said it, but a quick look at the fixtures showed that Bolton would either beat or draw with Burton to give them 43/41 points or Burton would win and get 41. So that was why they are down.}

22 Apr 2018 11:40:03
If these rumours of Marcel Blands are true and also the board meeting being held to discuss Sams position are correct as well, this could be a decisive moment at Everton, with Fonesca being linked and maybe Wenger the future looks good for us, fingers x it's not just paper rubbish.

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22 Apr 2018 11:55:43
It seems its for Fat Sam to see out his contract and what to do about Walsh now that Brands is coming in and transfer policy. They won't sack Fat Sam while sorting out Brands role at the Club and his thoughts on a new Manager. Brands won't want Fat Sam for sure, so until they know who they want they will keep FS rather than give him a hefty pay off. Sad and sick of hearing him as I am!

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22 Apr 2018 12:13:29
Allardyce by his own admission has never been paid out his full contract amount. So we are looking at 2-5 million for his departure.
Personally I would forfeit Kevin Nolans transfer fee next season to get rid of him. It's a dead cert Sam will try and bring him in next season.
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22 Apr 2018 11:22:10
I do think it's an odd time to sack him if talk about a board meeting is true. I don't want him as our manager as much as the next guy but I'd have thought they'd let him see the last 4 games out at the very least. Sam Allardyce has done what was expected of him but now we need to move forward. It's obviously not going to happen under his reign. The club already knows that the vast majority of fans aren't happy and I know you can't please everyone but I'm sure this news would please lots. If they are going to sack him then surely they've got a replacement lined up and it's not a repeat of earlier in the season, otherwise the club has learnt nothing.

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22 Apr 2018 11:51:13
You think they will actually say that's it Sam see you someone else is taking charge the last 4 games, ridiculous. If there is a Board meeting and I stress 'if', then it will be about a lot more than Sam Allardyce and on Allardyce there will be no announcement until the end of the Season, even Everton are not that stupid.

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22 Apr 2018 11:57:20
I do not want him in charge next season but I also don't want him sacked. He hasn't done enough to continue next season but he has done enough to not be sacked mid season.
They should part company in the summer with a handshake.

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22 Apr 2018 12:45:19
As long as there’s a big fat brown envelope in that hand then I’m sure he would be happy to go Smit.

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22 Apr 2018 13:08:16
I share your opinion there smit.

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22 Apr 2018 10:10:43
The mail reporting a board meeting this week to decide whether Allardyce will be kept on or sacked. Any truth in this eds?

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{Ed002's Note - I am sorry I don't know of any agenda for any board meeting.}

22 Apr 2018 08:05:23
The idea that Arsene Wenger should be offered a role at Everton is muddled thinking in my humble opinion.
He undoubtedly changed professional football in England and was very successful during his first ten years.
However, as many Arsenal fans have said (vociferously and ardently on Arsenal Fan TV and elsewhere) , he has not been as successful since that first decade.
His inability to genuinely challenge the "big" clubs for the Premier League or the Champions League has been noticeable for several years now.
His recruitment of players has been poor of late.
He appears to have "lost his mojo" and not moved with the times while other younger managers - Guardiola, Pochettino, Klopp, etc. - have embraced a newer approach.
Evertonians' wishful thinking about him being right for our club in 2018 should take note that he isn't the innovative manager he was in 1996-2006, but that he is the set-in-his-ways manager of 2007-2018.
We'd love to have won FA cups like he's done in recent years, but don't let that mask how Arsenal have slipped behind the rest of the "big six". The Arsenal fans know that and the vast majority know that he's been past his sell-by date for at least a couple of years.
We now need to replace Allardyce with a forward-thinking, dynamic, younger manager - someone who isn't afraid to be positive and go for wins rather than being defensive and afraid to lose ; we need someone to create an identity for our club's core footballing approach - giving us football we enjoy watching; someone who will recruit well and develop/ improve the players; someone with the ambition to aim for the stars even though it will take a massive effort, on and off the field, to become genuine challengers and a "big" club once again. Wenger might have been that manager twenty years ago, but he isn't now.
Farhad Moshiri, Bill Kenwright, and the board have a huge decision to make about the direction they want to take the club. I hope they are getting the best advice possible and I really do hope they don't let sentiment or wishful thinking obscure their focus on doing what's right for Everton Football Club. Time will tell of course.

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22 Apr 2018 09:14:03
You make some good points but then Arsenal did sell a lot of their decent players over the years and for some good money, mainly to Man City
I just don’t see Wenger fitting what seems to be the plan of a DOF and Manager set up. Although if he would work with a DOF that could take the player recruitment issue from his his duties.
I feel the Arsene links are flattering and more driven by the Moshiri history coming from Arsenal.
Right now the club seems at a crossroads and unsure which direction to take, hopefully as one of the Ed’s suggested Moshiri is taking some advice on driving the club forward and this could be where the Raiola situation comes in to assist getting the player recruitment done even at a price
I just hope there is some positive moves by the club between now and next season and swift ones!

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22 Apr 2018 09:27:55
BobbyC, I agree. What we need is new thinking but primarily Mr Moshri needs to find a very knowledgeable and respected pure football man as an advisor. As to Managers, I do have a preference (Dyche, quite like the Wolves Manager to, got them playing great football) , we do not in my view require a Silva (why should we hire failed Managers, might as well go for Pardew or Hughes if that is the case) and we would be very lucky to get Fonseca (the guy will have offers from dare I say bigger Clubs than us) . We shall see the result of the touted Board Meeting this week.

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22 Apr 2018 11:04:12
I wholeheartedly agree with above on Wenger. He is not right for our club as manager at the moment but his time at Arsenal I feel is being unfairly judged. Yes in the last ten years they have fallen slightly behind even though they were they most consistent team in England to qualify for the champions league.

The part I feel is being overlooked for Wenger is the contribution he made to the club as a whole. In that time they built a new stadium. One of the few the clubs to ever turn a profit. Wenger offered and delivered much more than bring just a manager. He offered a business sense that Arsenal benefitted greatly from. All managers get judged on trophies. If there was a trophy for managers based on their ability to generate a profit for the club Wenger would be unrivalled.

In today's market a manager who is quite similar but more modern is Sean Dyche imho. That is why I would love to see him here next season. One of the Ed's wrote a few interesting points on how he would fit in at Everton. He seems tailer made for our club. His clubs goals against tally is excellent this season. An area we need recruiting in badly with our regular defenders almost all over 30. Dyche it is for me.

He hasn't got a foreign name or comes across as a prima dona. Just what we need.

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22 Apr 2018 11:24:25
Blimey, not successful in last 10yrs. What we'd give to be in Top 4 every Season the last 10yrs! Weve been there once since the Prem started! His first Season this out top 4, and he has won FA Cups aswell. Arsenal have had issues this Season with Sanchez, Ramsey and Wiltshire injuries, amongst other stuff. They say he doesn't spend money, he always goes big spends when he does to get quality. i'd be happy with his brand of footie and quality of players maybe with Unsy and or Arteta alongside .

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Review Of The Day 22nd April 2018

22 Apr 2018 07:05:36
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Premier League Match Preview Sunday 22nd April 2018

22 Apr 2018 06:41:47
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Sunday 22nd April 2018

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22 Apr 2018 05:18:19
Just a thought but does anyone agree with me that San Allardyce doesn't really want to be with us either but is just playing the game to get his payoff and move onto the next club 'in trouble'

We've been basically safe now for weeks but no change to the tactics, the team. No trying out Klassen and Vlasic to see what they can do with next season in mind. Trying to talk down talk of Lookman staying (why- is he trying to wind us up? ) No appreciable attempt to win over the fans ( although I admit we're not making it easy for him)

To me, he's showing no desire to stay the full term of his contract but just wants to make sure he is paid up. That's fine by me and just hope the club makes the right decision - actually any decision - soon, rather than let it drag out much to the annoyance of everyone.

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{Ed001's Note - what bothers me is he had said, both publicly and privately, that he did not want to do long term jobs any more. That all he wanted to do now was short term firefighting jobs for a big pay cheque, then go back and relax on the beach. So why did he ask for an 18 month contract, unless it was to increase the pay cheque?}

22 Apr 2018 05:34:27
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I think you are spot on. My view is that if he can get this contact paid up he will be happy and will have a nice rest until Christmas until the next panicking club comes along.

Good luck to him - just leave us alone.

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22 Apr 2018 10:42:47
Sam Allerdyce Everton manager should never have been a sentence that we had to use. He should never have been given 1 interview let alone dictate terms at a second one. What you can't deny is he ain't soft, he knew from the off we weren't in the brown stuff as much as the powers that be thought and he preyed on that weakness by getting a guaranteed 12 month payoff because deep down he knew us fans were never going to be happy with what he brings.
I just hope that the recruitment of the new manager is done efficiently and not a last minute panic. We should have sounded out potential candidates already to see if we have a chance of recruiting them.
We won't get Fonseca as he basically has Champions League and domestic glory in the bag at his current club so other than him being money motivated, which if he is then realistically he is doing the same as Sam, then we need to look closer to home and maybe look at Dyche or Rafa.

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