Everton Banter Archive February 22 2015

22 Feb 2015 21:58:25
Guys I think RM does think we are Wigan. He's now talking about how we need to reach 40 points to stay in the division. Jesus I just want to forget this season, but something tells me it's going to get real messy real soon.

I hate saying it, but I think I am now with the Anti-RM Club. There is no excuse for the team being this inconsistent.

If you listen to the pundits

(yep I know that they get wrong from time to time )

They imo are blaming RM as they insist that this

Everton squad

'' is too good to go down''

and '' should be challenging for CL ''


If any of this is true and correct? then where does the buck stop when it comes down to the reason (s) we are where we are now?

22 Feb 2015 20:58:40
I'm speechless after that performance.
The Whole team looks fat, slow and clueless.
Lukaku should be dropped for Kone, surely with all the chances lukaku gets Kone will take one.
Howard since he has come back in goal the defence look lost and petrified. Robles should be brought in. I could go on and on. I really do think we can go down!
if we stay up its not by Roberto's management but by other teams poor showing. I still can't believe how clueless we were.

Lukaku 4 goals in two ganes an ye wanna drip him

4 goals in 2 games, hides how many chances he has missed. We should be saying 8 goals in 2 games and that's not an exaggeration. Our forward line looks really square, we need something new and who knows Kone could be awful but at the moment it's not working.

23 Feb 2015 00:08:14
He hasn't got 4. He missed his header resulting in an OG

23 Feb 2015 08:14:52
Andy Cole needed a similar ratio and was always considered a good striker! We just need to keep the supply coming!

22 Feb 2015 19:24:04
I just want to say that after that today, it is obvious to me that the players are following instruction to play the tippy tap football. This is what gets us in trouble. We didn't really deserve to go 1 nil up and it was no surprise to me when Leicester went in front. Then guess what.we start going more direct and the crowd gets behind the team and we look 10 times better for the last 15 mins. We were direct in Switzerland and in Wolfsburg (our two best performances of the season in my opinion). It really frustrates me to know that players like Baines and Coleman who have the ability to break out and overlap and cross and score goals have to hang back and play the ball back to Howard or Stones or Jags and then get it back and then do it again until the opposition close us down and then Howard kicks it into touch or aims for the giant of Lennon. All our other problems could be dealt with if only the manager would realise we are no good at the tippy tappy stuff.

22 Feb 2015 19:16:58
Right after todays performnce anybody who Had blind faith in Martinez and who backed Howard to come back straight away needs to step forward and see the light. The manager is a fraud and game by game I see why the irish norwegians didn't offer him the job when they got rid of doglead and Howard don't get me started on him somebody please explain to me what he offers as a keeper without saying he's a good shot stopper because that's like saying a baker is good at making loaves its his job, again he failed to control his 6 yard box and was at fault for both there goals today. Sorry but if and its a big if we make it to the end of the season with our premiership status still intact then the manager needs to go and somebody with balls needs to come in. This result and this performance is indefensible and any evertonian who says different needs a reality check or was not around in the Mike Walker days! At least Walker was appointed in the back of finishing second wereas Martinez appointed on the back of a relegation at the third time of aaking. Time for a change and loae the fraud before we lose all our decent players and our top flight status.

22 Feb 2015 18:36:37
I will say Gibson put some great balls through today it was a positive in that point of view but other than that I'm getting worried.

22 Feb 2015 18:30:30
Another disappointment following Thursday's morale boosting performance in Switzerland. What is going on? Leicester (currently bottom of the League) should have been there for the taking today, yet controlled much of the game and having gone a goal down were then looking at taking 3 points but for Everton's late equaliser. Why are we doing this to ourselves?

To blame?
1. Tim Howard. At fault for both goals today, when Robles who'd kept clean sheets when brought in was again considered second best. His 'smile' when faffing a simple clearance said it all - as has been notified by another poster.
2. Ross Barkley. 'Phenomenal' and 'a world beater' if you believe our manager. Couldn't pass or defend today. Sell him in the summer if someone is stupid to offer £30m plus.
3. Leighton Baines. Now looking past his best. Not capable of crossing the ball or defending as he should. Drop him for the Europa 2nd leg in favour of Luke Garbett who should not be allowed to run down his contract and leave. He is the natural replacement LB for the future but will probably end up elsewhere next season.
4. Romelu Lukaku. Wasted at least 3/4 good scoring opportunities today before finally creating the own goal from Upson with a brave header. £28m striker? Not domestically despite Thursday's hat trick. He needs to hold the ball better and turn like Bony and other top strikers can.
5. Roberto Martinez. Now sussed out domestically, if not yet in Europe. Why wait to bring on Super Kev with less than 10 mins remaining? This game was crying out for someone to strike the ball either from dead balls or open play. We missed his talent today as we are likely to next season.
Relegation is still very much a reality despite the dross beneath us. This shouldn't be happening after the expectations of last season. A nervy last 10 games or so methinks.

22 Feb 2015 18:13:25
Couple of positives. lukaku got into the right positions to score, pity his shooting was dreadful. And boy, the range of passing from Gibson was brilliant. Pity Bobby won't play him next game.

22 Feb 2015 17:56:50
Pitiful to watch.Howard utterly useless and should never of got back into the 1st team. Atsu tried to make things happen as did Gibson when they came on and both deserve another chance.Barkley hasn't got a clue and confidence destroyed. No plan b as usual. Martinez has to go for me? But who is available at the moment? Maybe Bilic? Soul destroying to watch and to make matters worse the reds seem to be getting better whilst our great club is in decline.Squad needs a huge overhaul in the summer and hopefully we get some creative players who pass the ball forwards instead of sideways.

22 Feb 2015 17:08:57
It shows up Evertons poor performance when Leicester play with a 42 year old goalie and the most work he did was taking goal kick after goal kick due to poor finishing by 25m striker. Everton playing with 5 current or ex England internationals plus other countries. It beggars belief what they do in training other than drink tea because same problems week after week. Managers problem and not being addressed. Under John Moores chairmanship Martinez would have been long gone. So Martinez can be thankful he has a very patient Chairman at the moment.
Howard and Baines must be dropped now.

Martinez OUT. said it for weeks. he is a clueless clown. sick.of people defendin his awful subs etc. but I am BORED now.please f off Roberto

He actually cost £28 million. And he scored 3 against the equivalent of a league 2 side, so he is classed as a bargain. Isn't that right Bobby? Clown

Arsenal and Stoke are going to wipe the floor with us, so back in the relegation dogfight we go.

We are Everton
#Wedontwinanything
That's what we do

22 Feb 2015 16:44:33
Once again I say, if Man City or Chelsea are mad enough to offer £20m + for Ross Barley.Please take it, because he will never make a top class midfielder. Hodgson knows better than Martinez! When Gibson came on the passes from midfield flowed & a few of his passes split the Leicester defence. oh. & he actually had a shot! Yes blues.A shot.remember them? Lukaku may have scored a hatrick in midweek but should have scored 5 or 6, and should have scored another 3 today.He doesn't impose himself enough on defenders & as Carragher said, he doesn't turn with the ball & run at defenders like other strikers do. He just doesn't use his strength enough to frighten them. Martinez keeps saying about the age of both Barkley & Lukaku. 21.They should be well established & be dictating games NOW. like Kane at Spurs, Sterling across the Park. That match performance today was abysmal & completely unacceptable for this Club. It was 68mins before we gained our 1st corner.totally unacceptable. Do our players actually know how to shoot. nobody seems to want to shoot from outside the area, nor are they encouraged to do so. So our season is over. We will not finish anywhere near the top 6, and we aren't good enough to actually win the Uefa Cup either. At this rate it won't just be Mirallas who wants to leave come the end of the season. We are now beginning to resemble Wigan. and we are in trouble!

22 Feb 2015 16:33:24
Ratings: Howard-3-hes garbage like actual rubbish you put in a bin that also holds your crap. I've taken so much stick on here about howard and did nothing but increase my dislike for him. He doesn't leave his line and you know what? Bar the fact he's awful at everything, the thing that annoys me most? He loves slapping the ball straight to the opposition to score. If he isn't dropped for the game on thursday then we know martinez has to go. Coleman-6.5-few decent runs but meh. Stones-7-did his job. Jagielka-7-see stones for more details. Baines-5.5-wow, today again proves he's not as good a crosser as oviedo or garbutt, he's definitely weaker and slower and worse at defending. I have to ask, what does he do? Another martinez fav. Besic-6-not at it, oh well. Mccarthy-6.5-ok I suppose. Lennon-6.75-suprised, worked his socks off and i'm happy with him. Barkley-5-cant pass, shoot, dribble, run, jump, see or tackle but he's enjoying his football and is a phenominal talent and I have no evidence to support these claims but he scored against norwich. Can anyone honestly tell me with a straight face that he's premier league standard, the game passes him by and we look so much better without him, he's awful. Naismith-6-i don't know. Lukaku-6-if you want to play for a bigger club (so he names chelsea lololol) then you have to score goals and you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a boat today. Gibson-7-changed the game, dictated play and did this thing called passing, you should learn how to do it ross. Atsu-6- mirallas-6- wow, i'm actually breathing a sigh of relief that we just drew with leicester, abomination of a performance, "but we showed phenominal character to come back from 2-1 down at home to bottom of the league and despite missing god knows how many chances everyone is enjoying their football and is playing with a real lack of intensity which I like and we look forward to playing championship football next season which I promised when I joined"-Roberto Martinez post mach press conference. We are disgusting to watch #martinezout #barkleyout #justiceforJoel #takeyourinabilityasabasicgoalkeeperandgobacktoamerica

22 Feb 2015 17:06:23
Surprised Howard got a rating at all Swan. I wouldn't have been so kind.

We, as fans, can give Howard and the others a "rating", but I'd just wish that club insiders (surely BK and the board) would give RM and most of the players a "berating" for the performances and results so far this season.
;-)

22 Feb 2015 16:18:15
Having been buoyed by the result against YBB, I was looking forward to a victory over Leicester. In the words of the song, "What kind of fool am I?"
Leicester have played OK in many matches this season without being able to get the results, but they are firmly rooted at the bottom of the table. We managed to make them look more than OK - just like we've done against so many teams in the Premier League this season.
Howard was clearly at fault for the goals conceded.
Lukaku's hold-up play was better today, but his finishing was awful way too many times.
Barkley just wasn't at it and was deservedly substituted.
Baines's delivery from corners was poor.
Coleman looked better in his attacking play today.
Naismith works his socks off and can finish, but he just lacks that absolute top quality in his touch and passing.
Lennon and Atsu showed glimpses of what they might bring to the party, but surely need more time to bed into the team.
Irrespective of unexpected and/or unlucky individual mistakes by players determining actual results, it's the manager's job to prepare the team and to motivate them and to find a way to overcome the opposition's tactics & formation & organisation. However RM might spin today's match - probably citing how many opportunities we had (and missed!) - it's still another poor result and that frustratingly in a match following a good Europa League result. We had a great opportunity to move away from the relegation dogfight and to move a little closer to the team's above us - but we are Everton and we blew it.
Ho hum.
:-(

22 Feb 2015 16:02:49
Howard you are no good now. Martinez please ffs! Don't play him again or we will get relegated. This season has been an utter nightmare! Players who are past it, players out of form and you still play them. I'm over you Martinez!

22 Feb 2015 16:02:01
That was an embarrassment, we made Leicster look like world beaters, too slow, backwards and sidewards.

Howard should've started his last game for us after that complete shambles, at fault for both goals, and nearly cost us at the end with his flapping!

Rom. 9 shots and NONE on target, that goal will be taken off him and put as an OG! So so poor all round!

Time for Bobby to go, I'm fed up being a laughing stock!

22 Feb 2015 15:57:42
Martinez the only reason we're still in that European Micky Mouse cup is because we haven't yet been found out by european teams in that competition!
Your tactics have been completely found out in the premier league and you have no plan B, disgusted at today's performance despite a late equaliser, 1 win in 10 and drawing at home with the bottom side is a disgrace!
For me Martinez should have gone after the Newcastle game,
As for Howard - don't even get me started

{Ed025's Note - i have always defended tim baz...but im running out of excuses mate..

Baz you can't think of it like tha mste burnley not that far behind leister but they drew with cheski yesterday

22 Feb 2015 17:32:54
Shakey Chelsea aren't sitting on 28 points

22 Feb 2015 15:39:39
Swan takes a lot of flak on here and I don't agree with a lot of what he says but I'm going to hold my hands up and say he's been spot on about Howard that's another goal that an average keeper should not concede time he was dropped for me

22 Feb 2015 15:35:33
Surely Robles in for Howard now.

Agreed, if Robles was in he would have made the catch for the second goal. Point is though it isn't going to happen is it? I can hear it already! "Tim is phenomenal, he is in the best moment of form, blah blah blah."

22 Feb 2015 15:05:23
F in he'll back to slow sideways backwards passing. Lcfc time to get the men behind the ball And defend; change the tactics or the tempo! Oh there us no plan b

22 Feb 2015 14:02:05
Take a look at the club ad for season tickets. For once the club has hit the spot. Made me go quite emotional.

Why is that are they offering a full refund on this season and a free season ticket for next season if we have to deal with the blag Mourinho tactics any longer.