Everton Banter Archive January 22 2020

22 Jan 2020 18:33:21
We need to get a bit of perspective of where we are and the expectations for the remainder of the season, plus what next season could hold.

We are currently going through a period where we have a lot of injuries. The big ones are in CM with Gbamin and Gomes out. We've also had Ricky out who has been one our top performers so far this season and Sig. Bernard has also only just come back after having a spell out injured.

We also failed to get that extra CB and the dramatic loss of form in Keane and Sig has seen us suffer this season. Also, Kean has and will take time to get use to the league as well as his team mates.

We lost Gana who was our most influential CM for the past couple of seasons and we struggled to find a way of making the best of the strikers we had at the club.

The shoots of recovery are there. 1 defeat in 9 league games against the Champions. Our young striker DCL now in double figures and looks dangerous every game now he is playing like how a CF should be playing. this has been the area we have been trying to fill since Lukaku left and we now look like filling it.

Lukaku scored 15 in his first season with us and in his second 10. Well DCL has reached the 10. I wouldn't be surprised if DCL got close to that 15 by the end of the season. If he gets to 16 he would be only the second Everton player to reach this since Kanchelskis in 96. Oh and he's still 22.

We now have a manager that I think we all believe in and get behind. We know this isn't his team and he will bring in his own players he needs to fit the tactics he wants to implement. At the moment he is building a team with someone else's tools.

22 Jan 2020 19:43:56
Best post I've read for some time mate.

22 Jan 2020 21:49:53
BJU, I like your thinking and it’s refreshing to read a more positive / optimistic piece that isn’t littered with daydreams - well in 👍.

23 Jan 2020 07:19:36
Brilliant piece BJU and well said, only thing I would add is the emergence of Holgate, still room to improve but I feel he’s grabbed his opportunity to showcase himself.

23 Jan 2020 09:23:46
Luv it BJU.

23 Jan 2020 10:06:07
The thing i like about Holgate is he can play it out from the back but is also prepared to put the ball over the stand when he has to, and send the opoonent with it if need be.

23 Jan 2020 11:14:48
Wasn't he more thought of at Barnsley than Stones? He's going to be very very good, maybe not a great but certainly a serious talent. I think he's great.

22 Jan 2020 16:23:55
Sick as a pig after last night looking at table in 90th minute thinking we can still get top 6 finish this season 4 mins later we dropped 2pts, only Everton could do this, but so many positives to take especially Kean getting a goal and performed well, that will do him the world of good.

22 Jan 2020 16:50:54
I was devastated last night as I really thought perhaps we've turned a corner and could get our season back on track. Maybe start looking above us in the table instead of down. In typical Everton fashion we blew it and defended diabolically after 90 minutes. There are positives to take from the game but obviously it's 2 points dropped.

22 Jan 2020 20:52:11
Subs that cost us imo. Davies and niasse were terrible.

22 Jan 2020 13:32:28
Just when you think Everton can't embarrass you anymore by getting beat by a bunch of kids they let a two goal lead slip in the last 2 minutes of injury time, as for Pickford completely misses punch for the first goal and the second goal he is a foot behind the line when he catches it with his feet a further 3 foot back what's he doing standing four feet behind the line no sorry not good enough and certainly not big enough have a mate who works in the players Lounge said he's the most arrogant person you'll ever come across really need to get shut of him. Could of been eight ahead of Spurs looking at the top 6 if it wasnt for him.

22 Jan 2020 15:02:43
If you want a goalkeeper who commands his box, is good at crosses, look no further than Burnley’s pope.

If Pickford has a good Euro and a good offer comes in, I would look to cash in when his stock will be higher, but only if we get cover in first.

22 Jan 2020 14:56:07
You need to watch the game again it was a freak result and for 94 mins we where in total control no wonder managers don't work out and players can't wait to leave when we have fans who can't wait to jump all over the players when we lose a lead 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ I'm actually embarrassed by social media and our fans today you would think we had be battarded 6-0.

22 Jan 2020 09:46:49
in regards to the subs, bernard and kean were absolutely knackered. The bench is thin and they were probably the best options to what needed doing (apart from maybe gordon instead of davies) its rough at the moment with squad depth. HOWEVER tha plyers out there should have been able to hold on to a 2-0 lead with 4 minutes to go lads come on? they should even worse be able to hold a goal lead for 30 seconds! keep the ball from kick off (delph fails to do so) leads to davies giving away a needless foul to let them pump it in the box. these are basics that every football fans knows, and these two have don't exactly what you shouldn't do, carlo getting stick for this is an absolute joke.

22 Jan 2020 10:23:02
Totally agree wblue2.

22 Jan 2020 10:38:01
People on here will always look for any opportunity to moan whoever's the manager is. Davies is garbage and so is Pickford. As stated squad depth is dire at the minute.

22 Jan 2020 10:56:44
Pickford is quite the anomaly, he has these games where he pulls off a string of great saves and gets you something from the game (West Ham) , then has a mare. I’d say wait until after the euro’s, hopefully has a great tournament which increases his value and puts him in the shop window, then take stock.

22 Jan 2020 13:12:55
Can't believe that these professional footballers are knackered after 70 minutes. Roy Vernon smoked three packs of cigarettes a day and lasted 90 minutes, no substitutes in this days. The problem yesterday is that we went from an attacking mode into a defensive mode and once again it hurt us. How many times have we lost points in the final few minutes?

22 Jan 2020 19:28:33
Players from the 90s couldn't play now. Nothing to do with talent. GAZZA would never make a pro contract in this era. Athletes required. Our sick list is starting to really hurt us. Bernard subbed after 45 and 60 mins. He's being played to get fit because we're bear bones. He might last 90 mins next 2 games.

22 Jan 2020 09:25:30
I think you'd had a little too much sugar when you posted Skylark and I know it's frustrating when we drop points like that but the signs are good that we are moving in the right direction.

Davies came on and he was shocking. I like the lad and think he's got what it takes to make it (I know many don't) but I won't defend that kind of performance.

I agree with Pickford. I have never rated him as a goalkeeper because of his temperament. He allows his emotions to control his performance and again last night he collapsed. I though in the first half he handled himself well, in fact for 90 minutes. However, when you need that rock in between the sticks he, i'm afraid crumbles.

There are loads to be positive about. DCL and Kean's performance was outstanding and Bernard deserved that round of applause when he came off.

Schinds and Delph put in good performances but for me we need two right backs and a right winger badly. The three of them (Walcott, Sidibe and Coleman) are not good enough.

Finally, Holgate is turning into a real player. What's more I heard him constantly shouting and screaming at his defence which we have missed for so long. Him and Mina are working well together.

Finally, Niasse. Never, ever put this guy on a football pitch ever again. There are under 5's that will do a better job than this tool.

22 Jan 2020 10:19:12
You saved me typing the same message John. I agree with all you say especially about Davies and Pickford. Maybe they’ll develop into decent players but at the present time they are liabilities. DCL has changed my opinion on him so who knows.
The most pleasing thing about last night was we totally dominated the game from start until the last 40secs but with a bit more composure we could’ve won 5 or 6. So that means we can and will improve more under Ancelotti.

22 Jan 2020 10:28:24
I think your being a bit harsh on Pickford BJU he didn't stand a chance with the second goal. To be fair he was throwing himself at shots that were blocked right in front of him which unfortunately put him behind the line for the shot that he did have a chance to save. First goal was a weak punch so can blame him for that.

22 Jan 2020 11:16:31
I'm not saying he's a bad goalkeeper sa it's just his composure really let's him down. He might get better and he's only young but this isn't something you train it's your make up of who you are.

The screaming and shouting when he makes a save is over the top. He should be confident enough to say "it's just another save". Staying calm at all times transfers to the rest of the team.

22 Jan 2020 12:12:36
Think in addition to his horrendous attitude he's got an issue with crosses and controlling his box. Very rarely he comes off his line and calms a situation by taking the ball cleanly. He's a great shot stopper and if we ever switch to 5 a side he'd be the first name on my teamsheet.

22 Jan 2020 12:55:45
He did the same last season at St. James Park, 2 nil up cruising and he baits their fans, we end up losing 3-2, same last night, lost focus, same at Anfield 2 seasons on the bounce, 2 mistakes deep in injury time gift our neighbours 2 goals.

If memory serves me right he nearly cost us a goal against Burnley with not coming out for a ball that was 80/ 20 his to win.

Then the Bournemouth away a few seasons ago.

How many goals has he let in with shots going over his head into the far corner.

Great shot stopper for sure but no command whatsoever in his area.

I pity the younger generation who never got to see Neville Southall who made the area his own, rarely punched a ball and never ever parried a ball out forward, it was always pushed away from danger towards the byline.

The finest goal keeper ever, what a shame we won’t offer him a coaching job, Pickford would learn so much from the big man.

22 Jan 2020 16:20:30
One thing I loved about Holgate last night was an incident where Digne and could of be Morgan messing about at the back, holgate sensed the potential danger and booted it high into the stand, it wasn’t that he just kicked it out it was the fact he smelled the danger and dealt with it, turning into a real quality player, hope he continues to listen to CA as he will make him top drawer.

22 Jan 2020 21:14:51
I think that was digne and bernard.

22 Jan 2020 07:47:44
Just watched the reply for Newcastle's 2nd and tom davies makes a pathetic attempt off a header and to make things twice as worse he stands still wile the other 9 players are trying to defend from a missed header he made if anyone has time to look at this its shocking the lad is not good enough. He is weak gives away possession to many times and never gives 100% on the plus kean and bernard an dlc Were quality today put a shift in 👍🏻.

22 Jan 2020 08:34:15
Hes not good enough like many of our other players.

22 Jan 2020 09:39:38
gave away the foul for the free kick aswel, 30 seconds to go you don't give them a chance to pump it in the box by giving away a pointless free kick on the halfway.

22 Jan 2020 10:39:36
Again boo boys go for 21 year old, there was plenty of opportunities to clear after that, everyone praising Holgate, he took Mina out leaving both CBs behind goal. It was just sloppy by whole side had already finished playing with 3 points in the bag need a leader to step up. Need to take it on the chin and don't do it next time.

22 Jan 2020 11:39:46
But we never learn Bluejohn, twice in the Derby 90 odd minute goals, against Newcastle a season or so ago let a 2 nil lead slip after Pickford barrocking the Newcastle fans, Bournemouth away a few seasons ago.

Last night faffing about near our own corner flag was bad enough, but to then not be able to keep hold of the ball from the restart disgraceful.

From restart that ball should have been booted towards their corner flag and then penn them there for little time left.

22 Jan 2020 12:16:19
Didn't realise that Davies got booed last night Blueboy - I agree that's unnecessary and unhelpful. But the simple fact is that Davies isn't good enough by a long way.

22 Jan 2020 13:11:56
Blueboy i couldn't care less how old tom davies is at the end off the day he is not good enough to play for everton football club he lacks the quality's he has played over a 100 games for us an not once av i thought this lads going to be decent.

22 Jan 2020 14:13:35
Goof point evo. His age doesn't stop him being paid tens of thousands a week does it so it shouldn't stop him being criticised for being incapable of the basics.