Everton Banter Archive May 22 2013

22 May 2013 22:21:19
I don't understand the clamour for pereira to get the job. The Portuguese league is no more competitive than the SPL, it's a 2 team league. More worryingly he has won the league twice on the run yet Porto haven't offered him a new deal. Porto fans also say he is tactically enept. No one has seen his teams play yet everyone seems to be hoping he gets the job!

I agree.

Yeah, because AVB and Mourinho have done really dab since they left! I watch Porto a lot, very fast paced passing attacking football while very organised defensively. He has a very high work ethic and good going into big games like Benfica and SportingLisbon. He has also worked on a low budget and has worked wonders. He may not be Mourinho but from the Porto side I have watched they are rather exciting.

TC

I posted a link yesterday about him and he is nt loved. However isn't that the same league that gave us Jose and Ava. just posing the question. Also dm came with no prem exp. jlaff

Fashion I would expect, Spurs have an ex Porto Manager, Chelsea may well end up with another so it is assumed he is in their class, plus a cool sounding name, I just hope that Victor Pear-tree (try a translator or two) with zero experience of the EPL or even English football per say is up to the job. If he is as good as his own publicity great, if not the effect on our club, well that is something I do not even want to think about.

So you think Everton never offered Moyes a new contract seen as though he was only contracted to the Summer? Of course they did! Just as Porto have offered Pereira a contract he has turned it down in the hope of a move to the EPL. There is a huge difference between the SPL and Liga Portuguesa, look at the players who have recently played in that league, Falcao, Moutinho, Hulk, Ronaldo, Cardozo, Witsel etc compared to the calibre of player in the SPL i. e Samaras, Hooper, Jelavic. You are quick to critisise Pereira but Mourihno and Villas-Boas were in his position not so long ago and look how they turned out. Plus, I can assure you they both had better teams than Vitor has had but he still has a better record than both of them.

BitterBlue

Mourinho is a one off, but he spent a lot of time getting experience working with some of the games too coaches, e.g bobby robson. AVB on the other hand has far from proven himself in the prem-was sacked by Chelsea after a couple of months and has taken spurs from 4th to 5th. Spurs played much better football under Harry. Pereira inherited a very good Porto side, a lot of his signings have not impressed-shoestring budget or not. As I mentioned, it is a 2 team league-Lisbon are no longer challenging the big two so it is easy to play expansive attacking football against inferior opposition, Celtic are a prime example of this. I don't see how pereira's record is any better than neil lennons (don't get me wrong I don't want Neil Lennon) I just feel many blues are getting caught up on a fella they know nothing about just because he is the most 'exotic and glamorous' name we've been linked with

Yeah the portugese league is like the spl, that is why benfica and sporting lisbon spanked us big style

Portuguese league is miles better than the spl, you will not see a spl come close to winning a major cup like porto and benfica have

Comparing the Portuguese league to the SPL is a joke. Yes, the Portuguese league is a 2 team league, but you could probably say the same about the Premier League the last 2-3yrs with the 2 Manchester clubs above the rest.

The Portuguese league is an improving league, make no mistakes about it, yes, Benfica and Porto are the standouts, but they also have Sporting Lisbon, who I a well known club, and although they have struggled in the last year, they are still a decent side. Braga, the side who finished 3rd last season is a very good side as well and made a good account for themselves in the CL. And now Pacos, who finished 3rd this season have developed into a decent side under a good manager (although he could leave to replace Pereira at Porto)

The Portuguese league is no where near as bad as the SPL. In fact, the Portuguese league as of last year, took over Ligue 1 as the 5th most rated league on the UEFA coefficient, first time that the top 5 (PL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A and Ligue 1) have been broken up in a very long time. That rating has meant they get 3 teams possibly for the CL. Compare that to Scotland where they are ranked 18th on the UEFA coefficient.

I'm sure the SPL used to be a two horse league, even though when Lennon took over it was practically a one horse league.

22 May 2013 21:11:22
Eds, can you confirm that the Svenny posting today is the same as always? thanks {Ed025's Note - its hard to check, but i will try..

22 May 2013 20:21:29
Ed do you know if Martinez is first choice I just don't get it he went down with wigan were as Periera won his league with Porto. Stef the blue {Ed025's Note - it looks like a two horse race stef, but we wont know till after the interviews mate..

22 May 2013 21:16:52
pereira came 2nd
EFL

Erm second poster. Pereira won the League with Porto.

BitterBlue

A thought has just come to mind are we all being taken for a ride by Billy boy. " I have interviewed everybody and feel Alan Stubbs is the man for the job" have we heard this in the past from Everton. we have made an offer for players which is clearly below the asking price just for them to say we made an offer. am I loosing it guys.

22 May 2013 20:18:13
Here's a question for all you blues, do you think there will be a woman manager in the prem? And if so when?

No never they wouldn't be taken seriously

We already have one, Brenda's in charge of the Reds!

Kurajan

22 May 2013 22:04:36
And what would happen when they have there 1st dodgy period?!
Ste c

I'd love to see the first female manage in the prem. She would last 2 mins, get sacked and hopefully also be the last female manager in the prem. {Ed007's Note - You better not let Ed002 hear that kind of talk, she can be very bitchy, strangely it is usually for 5/7 days out of 28.}

Is there even a female manager in the football league? never mind talking about 1 in the prem

22 May 2013 20:13:32
First and only choice for the job. Well done Bk lad

22 May 2013 20:06:53
I believe that Pereira's agent, who has apparently negotiated the contract, is Christophe Henrotay. He is the agent of the following players. :

Romelu Lukaku - Chelsea
Yohan Cabaye - Newcastle
Super Kev
Vadis Odidja-Ofoe - Brugge
Jonathan Legear - Terek Grozny
Daniel van Buyten - Bayern

Hmmm.
Lukaku, could be on loan to us next season? Involved in part of Fellaini deal?

Obvious connection with Vadis as well

22 May 2013 23:07:14
i'd take cabaye too if we are going down the route of agent talks to both parties and strikes a deal for us!

22 May 2013 19:19:06
I have a feelinh the deal for fereira is far from done. I hope i'm wrong. just hope its not another case of everton dragging there heels. just get it signed sealed and deliverd bill.

22 May 2013 18:49:01
tv Roberto Martinez on Evertons shortlist, really hope its periera but if not would be happy with Roberto, please not Neville, Stubbs weir long as its Vitor or Roberto come on bill put us out of our misery we are everton let's push on!

22 May 2013 17:48:31
Imagine the disappointment now if nev was announced.

22 May 2013 16:44:08
Dean Saunders seen buying a kebab after a meeting with Bill Kenwright in London, the greedy little taf even asked for more meat in his kebab

22 May 2013 17:05:21
Did he do any of his side splitting impersonations, he was so famous for at RS?

He had them rolling in the aisles at Molyneaux

Hysterical some of em!

22 May 2013 16:17:27
Talk of Jurgen Klinsmann again in the echo, are the behind the times or are we missing something?

Nothing else to print more like

22 May 2013 17:39:32
Klinsman has already said its nonsense.

Already sold over 21000 about same as norm

22 May 2013 15:50:15
hows the season ticket sales going?dont be fooled by these rumours, I hope i'm wrong.

Please don't use season ticket sales as to who were getting as next manager!

22 May 2013 17:04:52
Op you can't be serious can ye, crawl back under your stone

Degsy

22 May 2013 15:22:33
Where net getting pera well end up with Stubbs. Well sing no one I'm predicting well finish 15 th nwxt seson 10 th at best

Billyboie {Ed025's Note - my opinion(based on english language, and spelling) is that you are 8 years old, and dont have a scooby..

Where you the copper in Allo Allo? {Ed025's Note - love it twoold..

22 May 2013 15:34:20
Why so negative? AntEFC

And here's me thinking Stanley Unwin was dead?

22 May 2013 15:43:09
Tickled me that Twoold, ha ha

Degsy

Me too got a fit of the giggles now

Didn't he used to escoope through the pissage way? BlueTone

22 May 2013 14:47:48
At this stage anyone other than VP is going to be a huge disappointment, this includes RM, DF, AS, PN. I even saw Klinsmann name getting thrown about yesterday which would have been acceptable as its an attractive name that good players would sign for, personally I'm used to the club throwing big names around in the past and then just coming back with small fish, I wouldn't build your hopes up.

22 May 2013 14:39:42
Why I have I got a bad felling Martinez is going to creep in there now I had no problem with Martinez last week its just I have my heart set on Pierra now he is a winner come on Bill you said you would listen to the fans just read the websites blues everywhere want this Porto guy come on give us something to cheer about please. Stef the blue

Stef the blue, trust me VP has agreed terms. The delay in the announcement is although he is out of contract in a week and a half it was never expressed he would definitely not sign a new contract. He will hold a press conference stating so first and the on June 1st we will welcome him to Everton

Svenny

Tthanks Svenny I believe you mate keep the info coming.

22 May 2013 12:33:58
Deep breath people, count to ten. Our captain has stated that he doesn't know who the next manager is going to be, so don't think anything is decided yet. But news is its the bloke from Porto, god I hope so. Bugger now you've got me doing it.

22 May 2013 11:53:50
Hi guys, going to sound like i'm making this up and to be honest if I was reading this from the outside i'd probably think it has been, however i'm a blue suffering and I know i'm not alone.

I have come into work today and a colleague has told me he believes he knows who the next Everton manager is, he is a wind up merchant so I was unsure whether to trust him or not.

He went on to say a friend of his is a coach for the youth team and spends a lot of him time in Finch Farm. (remember this is 2nd hand information) Last week he said a few cars all blacked out arrived in Finch Farm, although he couldn't see who it was (sounds pretty pointless to mention it but adds to the meat).

He also said he was speaking to his cousin (who has no interest in football) told him she'd just sold her house in Formby. She mentioned it was a Portuguese "Football man". (could be anyone!)

As I say he is a wind up merchant so I didn't believe him, however he pulled him phone out and showed me a bet he placed yesterday £50 on 18/1 and he placed a further £20 today while I was sitting with him on 11/2.

He's not one to part with his money easily, so i'm starting to sort of believing him, that mixed up with all the comments on here, surely there's got to be something in this.

I have no idea about players etc however that's what i've been told.

Here's to hoping DiscoDave

So Ronaldo is going back to Utd then

22 May 2013 10:38:25
Last week Bill said that he would let the fans be heard and would make the best decision for Everton FC. ok bill then please do not appoint from within the club. It would be a backwards step imo. No disrespect to Stubbs or Neville who have been great for the club throughout the years, I can see them as an assistant to the new manager but not as 1st team manager. So bill to move this great club forward please appoint an experienced quality manager. Of course it's a difficult decision to make because we all want the best for the club and the best candidate for job and the best person for the job in my eyes is VITOR PEREIRA

Andy

Vitor will do for me Andy! ;)

He's THE MAN; good record for attacking football with a strong back line and a good work ethic. He is also credible across Europe and can attract the right kind of player we need. He's also a WINNER. He'll do me!

22 May 2013 10:12:46
well if you won't have Pulis it will
HAVE to be Allardyce

Puzzled

We are talking stoke here aren't we?

SA90

22 May 2013 09:53:56
what a mental end of, and closed season so far. Moyes, Fergie and Pulis all gone.

Bet Wenger's rusty sheriff's it's twitching like fook, wonder what the odds on him not lasting to the end of next season is?

Arsene Wenger Arsenal 16 years, 232 days

Alan Pardew Newcastle United 2 years, 163 days

Sam Allardyce West Ham United 1 year, 354 days

Martin Jol Fulham 1 year, 348 days

Brendan Rodgers Liverpool 0 years, 354 days

Paul Lambert Aston Villa 0 years, 353 days

Chris Hughton Norwich City 0 years, 348 days

Steve Clarke West Bromwich Albion 0 years, 347 days

Michael Laudrup Swansea City 0 years, 340 days

Andre Villas-Boas Tottenham Hotspur 0 years, 322 days

Mauricio Pochettino Southampton 0 years, 123 days

Paolo Di Canio Sunderland 0 years, 51 days

Martinez Wigan Athletic 3 years, 340 days but Relegated

22 May 2013 09:42:15
I hope people are right about pereira or am going to be very disappointed really excited about this guy. won't he be our first foreign manager ed?

COME ON YOU BLUE BOYS

22 May 2013 08:24:25
I read this site every single day and honestly laugh at a few peoplke claiming to "be from a reliable source, but can say who". I think that time wasters need to turn it in and let the people who do actually know something to let us fans know. Reading a few regarding an unamed manager who has held talks but cannot be named sounds really exciting. But regardless who the manager is, he will have my backing 110%. let's hope its done sooner rather than later so all these wild rumours can be put to bed. Onwards and upwards for the blue boys I think, and i'm getting really excited for next season. let's show the world that no matter who we appoint as manager, we still show the world that Everton FC truly have the best supporters on gods green earth. COYB!
Nathan {Ed025's Note - nice post that nathan, im with you mate..