Everton Banter Archive May 22 2016

22 May 2016 23:27:31
Emery although not seen much of how his teams play, but looking at his record it's very good considering how it looks like he has had to sell his best players season after season but led Valencia to 3 3rd finishes on limited budget and has won 3 consecutive Europa leagues.
It's not bad just looking at players he had to sell during career

David Silva
David Villa
Juan Mata
Negrado
Navas
Kondogbia
Rakitic

You don't win 3 consecutive Europa titles if your rubbish.

22 May 2016 23:52:08
daily mail reporting pelligrini in talks with everton.

22 May 2016 21:41:33
So the board are going to speak to emery this week, so by the end of the week we got.

Emery board.

22 May 2016 20:54:03
It's just been said on the game between Barcelona and Saville that Emery has over 700 scouts world wide. No wonder they keep finding gems and selling one tends not to make a difference.

22 May 2016 21:59:03
To be fair, most clubs have access to a huge network of scouts. It's my understanding that, although clubs do have their own scouts, they get a lot of referrals and recommendations from essentially freelance scouts.

22 May 2016 18:59:52
Glad he has gone to the mancs thank God we never got him.

22 May 2016 18:31:26
Okay let's assume that Koeman is a no go, De Boer, Favre and Emery seem to be the managers we've spoken to or sounded out. Who would you all want to get in as manager? .

22 May 2016 19:39:09
Torn on this one. de Boer has won 4 titles in 6 seasons, but everyone says he is in a poor league (like koeman was) , emery has won Europa league 3 times off the trot, yet hasn't won away in league this season. Farve has took a near relegated team and transformed them into champs league and euro league, playing good football, good attack and solid defence. But I've seen on here, some saying he is just going to be a Christian Gross, judging by the fact he is Swiss obviously. So De Boer for me but whoever gets it, there will be moans on here.

22 May 2016 19:46:02
Favre for me.

22 May 2016 19:52:01
Emery has a history of saving teams from the rut and kicking on to new heights, imo it would be amazing if we pulled off either of favre or emery. fingers crossed.

22 May 2016 21:15:25
Each manager has their pros and cons, yes emery has had a bad season away from home but you can't argue with 3 back to back Europa league wins which I think is harder than 4 Dutch championships with Ajax, I worry that I've heard De Boer plays like Martinez but I haven't seen it myself. Favre has form turning a bad side around. At the moment I'd take Emery, Favre and De Boer as I think Emery and Favre have done well in better leagues with lesser teams.

22 May 2016 21:41:44
Emery, Favre, de Boer in that order because Emery has transformed the fortunes of two clubs at the top level and done it very quickly in both cases. Favre one massive transformation in a competitive league and had been brilliant wherever he's been. Would be happy-ish with De Boer though.

22 May 2016 16:44:53
If we get Emery as manager can he please bring Konoplyanka with him to solve our left side out.

22 May 2016 17:26:08
doesn't play him.

22 May 2016 17:29:44
Emery could certainly give us an interesting psychological edge in the derby.

22 May 2016 19:30:32
Del boy will be out if that's the manager, If we can't have Jose mourinho I would get Koeman offer him big salary has the knowledge contacts and knows how to recruit,
anyone else I'm worried pellegrini is ok but he has spent lots on bad players most managers would of won a trophy during his period there, de boer could be too much like Martinez and can't take that risk now, I would love too see hoddle back in management, genius football brain him with unsworn has assistant.

22 May 2016 16:17:12
fdb managed a team in a poor 2-3 team league,
emery 4 away wins out of 31 away games
need a proven premier manager
koeman, benitez or even avb.

22 May 2016 16:53:37
Agree to an extent, Dazza, but a proven premier league manager doesn't guarantee success. In this case I take proven to mean successful. Morinhio was successful at Chelsea until he wasn't. Ranieri spent a long time being unsuccessful before being an unprecedented success at Leicester. Pulis is considered by some as a top PL manager, despite his teams playing in a way that sucks the fun out of football. Arguably, Roberto De Matteo is a successful PL manager, or certainly Champs league manager, but I don't see many wanting him. Isn't it actually more ambitious to go for someone like De Boer, Emery or Favre? How else are we, or any club going to find the next Pocchetino, Koeman etc. If outside gambles aren't chanced? All the current contenders are a big step up from Bobby brown shoes, in any case. If anything, this season has proved that every manager in the PL has to think very differently and evolve the style of football needed to compete next season.

22 May 2016 18:10:42
Think emery won the important away games especially in basel. at least we are taking our time to get the best option.

22 May 2016 20:36:03
Emery has something like over 50% win rate at his current club. Rested players for the domestic league in order to win the Europa. Paid off for the third time in a row! Anyone take a top 6 finish and a trophy 3 years in a row? I certainly would. Overall seems impressive to me but I have to admit I don't honestly know much about the man.

22 May 2016 15:42:06
Unai emery meeting Everton in next 72 hours, telegraph.

22 May 2016 12:42:45
Lukaku has said he's made his mind up were he's going next season. Who does this guy think he is. He should be fined by the club for all this talk to the press its so dissrespectfull. What would happen if the new manager comes in and decides he wants to keep him? After all he's still under contract and it will be the boards decision if he goes not his.

22 May 2016 13:03:18
Alright mate, Chelsea fan here. Not sure why you're so shocked about Lukaku's quotes/ actions. He did the exact same thing to Chelsea when he left us and showed a lack of respect to the club and also apparently upset a few important people at the club. For that reason I certainly don't want him back. The money being suggested for him is ridiculous for someone with the first touch worse than my gran. He'll score goals but I get the feeling he wants to be the superstar of the team and he won't enjoy himself so much when he gets the chance for a top team. Don't like the man at all and I'm not surprised you're all angry at him.

{Ed002's Note - You clearly don't understand why Lukaku left Chelsea. Lukaku was forced out with teh decision being made six months prior to him leaving.}

22 May 2016 13:06:34
The bloke has no respect for Everton football club, we put him in a team and made him what he is today, he might not be the finished article but then he might just be, He might be as good as it gets, Remember he's playing every week in a team where he's the only striker at our club, but in a so called bigger club with 2 or 3 top strikers he might find himself sitting in the bench if he's on one of his lazy days, once that happens it will be like being back at Chelsea, then once he's not playing week in and week out his form could dip and who knows what will happen, let's be honest he knows where the net is, but his all round game isn't that great.

22 May 2016 14:14:30
Lukue and Stones my well wish to leave, but for treating everton as a stepping stone, they should at the very least be made to put in a transfer requst, thus forgoing their cut of the fee.
Everton are knoewones stepping stone, this should be made clear to any future signings.
PS. I know this might cut us off from some talent, but imho, we shoud not deal with any player represented by Lukak's agent, no principals and no respect for our club.

{Ed025's Note - all agents are the same JCW, cutthroats and leeches who prostitute their players to the highest bidder mate..

22 May 2016 15:20:27
He is under contract I hope moshiri shows him who runs the club.

22 May 2016 15:32:42
Exactly jlmcr5. I like Lukaku and am grateful for his goals with Everton this season. But I always felt especially in the second half of the season he gets too much credit. No doubt he deserves plenty of credit but some people go over the top praising him at times.

He can either improve and become one of the best in the world. He has everything going for him in this regard. Or he can stall and not develop any further. He will need guidance and help to keep developing. No doubt in my mind he would get that at Everton. Imho he'll do well to get as good attention at his next club.

Martinez imho relied too much on him. We don't have another striker worth mentioning this last 3 seasons. Hopefully Niasse proves everyone wrong next season and does well. All our hopes and set up play was worked around Lukaku up front.

I don't think this is a good system. You need competition for every place imo. Someone to keep the first choice player on their toes and to allow them to recover properly when injured.

If Lukaku leaves we need 2 good strikers imo. Having one made options very limited under Martinez which effected our overall results imho. Our whole attacking play was concentrated on Lukaku not good to have a player thinking he's the only option and that without him the team would be much weaker.

I'm a big believer in not putting all your eggs in one basket. 2 decent strikers should be the minimum for any team.

22 May 2016 15:40:37
Rom's comments are a bit cryptic, but I think they can be interpreted in different ways, which is probably his intention, under instruction from his agent and his dad. It could be he's using the media to bait interest from other clubs, or to improve his deal at Everton, but his comments also don't necessarily distance himself from Everton. It was the same with Fellaini's dad when he was spouting off about his future. Maybe it's a Belgian thing. Hasn't everyone's dad said a humdinger in public that you can't take back and just have to grin and bear at some point? In my case, usually at weddings, congratulating distant cousins on pregnancies, when they're actually just a bit overweight, or at Goodison Park itself, such as shouting at players who left the club twenty years ago, or moaning about parking round the ground while everyone else is lamenting conceding a goal. Rom could just be torn with appeasing his dad, his agent and not actually knowing what he wants. If we keep him, I'd be elated, but if he has to go, we can probably get 3 decent goalscorers for his fee instead.

22 May 2016 14:32:22
Hello ed don't want to get on your wrong side and obviously you know much more than me but I'm sure you've said on a number of occasions that staff members of Chelsea would need to be persuaded to bring back Lukaku as he upset him? Sorry if I am wrong though. However, whether or not I know the ins and outs of why he left I do believe he's shown a lack of respect to the club since he left and so I stick to my original statement that I don't want him back.

{Ed002's Note - The point is that he did not push to leave - Chelsea pushed him out.}

22 May 2016 12:12:01
The Lukaku thing is a bit weird. All he says is he knows where he will be next season. Why are we all assuming that is elsewhere. When pushed on other clubs he very politically says there are many beautiful clubs.
The reason I question why we are all jumping the gun on this is because the headlines miss quote him, the articles don't but the headlines do. If he is moving and it is clearly a done deal why is not announced and why does not a single paper have a clue which club it is?
The one thing he doesn't say is I will not be playing at Everton next season and I know the new club I will be playing at. All he says is I know where I will be playing next season which given a lack of any transfer news or confirmation leaves him at Everton.
Personally I would sell him if we invested the money wisely as I feel we are far too dependent on him but I'm just pointing out that we all need to actually read and listen to these quotes from all the players as mountains do get made out of molehills.

22 May 2016 12:50:53
Good point Svenny.

22 May 2016 13:05:38
also Sven why would he come out under contract stating basically he has picked where he is going to be, I reckon he is staying mate, may change his mind if he comes on this site reading what some are saying about the lad, let's see if he is actually leaving before we slaughter him eh.

22 May 2016 14:33:02
Nah he said "it's been difficult at Everton". Not the words of someone whose planning to stay.

Like others have said he's after the biggest meal ticket he can get.

Which is why we should be grateful for loyal talents like Ross and not slate the kid every chance we get. He's our future.

22 May 2016 15:36:06
He also stated some clubs have a 5 year deal already agreed. Let him go we can't afford to carry players who want to leave. Do what Liverpool did with Sterling and get top price of.

22 May 2016 15:44:28
I like your point about Ross there Aches. Gets far too much stick.

22 May 2016 17:07:57
Just shows how fickle fans can be Murf. He is the kind of striker we had been crying out for, our first striker to score 20+ goals in a season in many years. But now it seems he, or his agent, want out and now some fans want to rip him to shreds before he has even left! If he wants to go then let him but only to a champions league team like his agent and father keep mentioning. For top dollar obviously.

22 May 2016 18:07:53
Again people miss reading. The it's been difficult at Everton quote was in response to a question about his personal lack of goals leading in to the tournament.
He also never says he has a 5 year agreement at all. He says some of the clubs he's being linked with have been consistent teams for 5 years. Seriously.

22 May 2016 10:30:00
Have we got a buyer then for 65+ million, because until that is in the bank Lukaku plays for Everton. Just because he wants doesn't mean we have to oblige. I want loads of things me, but do I always get what I want?
3 years left on his contract so shut the **** up and wind ya neck in. If you start behaving like a baby then you can go join the under 10 squad until you start to show some respect. We hold the power not that idiot. Or the idiot,s father. Enough said.

{Ed025's Note - im afraid that does not work in the real world mowfee, its a shame but it just does,nt mate..

22 May 2016 10:57:31
If he wants to go imo he's got to go and its down to the powers to be to get top wack for him.
Even with the new shareholder we can't afford to let 1 of our prized assets rot in the reserves.
If and when he goes i for one will wish him all the best and be greatful for the goals he scored whilst here. God knows where we would have been without out them last season.

22 May 2016 09:32:05
Happy birthday howard kendal rip.

22 May 2016 11:58:58
Not so happy for him.

{Ed025's Note - you never know BCT he may be in a better place mate and playing in the angels team alongside the likes of ball, labone and speed mate.. :)

22 May 2016 09:03:49
Well I will really like to see the back of Rom now he reminds of anelka always wanting to move clubs and it's not because they are bigger and playing champions league it's all about the money mark my words 5 years time he will be playing in China.

22 May 2016 10:21:16
Maybe we should tout him to the Chinese clubs for 100m, and I bet you they'd pay it. Wonder if it would be about "champions league" when he's been offered 300k a week.

{Ed025's Note - his dad and agent would bite our arm off gibbo..

22 May 2016 05:30:24
Does anyone wish Rom would P**s off?

22 May 2016 05:56:08
Theres talk now that he prefers CFC even though he wouldn't be playing CL football straightaway .

The thing is and perhaps the only solid fact here, RM has been exposed as a weak character when it comes to determining his own career, so I say we take the money and RUN!

22 May 2016 06:00:52
Quick adjustment 'RL' not 'RM'

22 May 2016 09:19:51
I've said all along this kid is a super star but he is not bigger than this club if he wants out then get shut for the right price but if the price isn't right then let him rot on the subs bench for the last 3 years of his contract it's not like we needed money is it. This lad has not shown any respect to any of the club's he has bin at he just jumps ship all the time. And worst of all I can't comprehend why on earth he would even contemplate going bk to Chelsea.