Everton Banter Archive April 23 2017

23 Apr 2017 20:23:31
Excellent story on why we need the new investment from the Chinese Consortium for the stadium to fund new players on NSNO, GuernseyBlue.

23 Apr 2017 23:01:19
Read it aswell Guernsey Moshiri guiding us in the right direction again, this summer is going to be big for us blues and the future looks bright with the right men in charge, let's hope us as fans keep calm and trust what is going on behind close doors.

24 Apr 2017 08:09:34
Ditto that mate, cheers GuernseyBlue.

23 Apr 2017 11:34:25
It's with a heavy heart I feel we need to sell Ross. The no 10 is a key position and 4 goals and his lack of vision are not good enough, his 360 degree turns on the halfway line just slow our attacking momentum. Hazard, Erikson, Courtinho, Silva all score more and play for teams above us. Coincidence?
Back on a balmy summer evening in August at Sunderland Koeman subs Ross at 0-0 second half we run out 3-0 winners. RKs tried criticising, cajoling, praising and still nothing a double deflected goal against Burnley changes.
Rooney WILL come home, he'll get us the 10/ 15 goals we need to challenge again, he has the vision to split a defence.
For Everton and the sake of your career you need to move on Ross but you'll always be one of us, an EvertonIan.

23 Apr 2017 12:54:20
The opta stats for the players you mention show that Ross has created more chances than most in the league this season. Only two players fair better, Eriksen and De Bruyne.
Silva has scored 6 in all competitions this year. Hazard has got 16, Eriksen 11 and Coutinho has 10 compared to Ross on 5. So while he may not be scoring as many as these players you mention, bar one of them, he is creating more chances for team mates. He is, however, probably going to finish this season with less goals than last but he has been more creative for the team.
Stats are deceptive. We can all see that Ross has progressed this season, especially since RK called him out. He has got a future at the club if he signs the contract on the table.
With Europa league all but sealed, we will welcome players such as Rooney to the club but we will need a bigger squad so we must keep hold of our better players if possible. Ross falls in to that category.

23 Apr 2017 13:44:14
I agree with all you've said, and like most Evertonians I'd be gutted if he left, however Koeman has shown with his sign or be sold ultimatum he's losing patience. Koeman is massively ambitious for our club and we'll back him or loose him. I trust Rks judgement he's a winner. There's only one no 10,one playmaker I just don't see Ross getting in ahead of Rooney (especially the wages we're paying to bring him back) I also think Rk will sign Sigurdson 3 into 1 doesn't go even with Europe. As you say we'll need a bigger squad next year so I hope your right and I'm wrong!

23 Apr 2017 14:20:55
I think the ultimatum is only to do with his contract stalemate rather than the way he is playing. If he signed the offer then RK would be happy to keep him. Not sure if Rooney would play in the same role as Ross, personally I'd put him up top as he is more effective up front imo. I'd bring him and Sigurdsson in regardless of whether Ross stays or leaves, the europa is relentless! Time will tell mate.

23 Apr 2017 15:27:20
What we do need if he stays is some quality competition for that position then if he isn't good enough we/ he will soon know as he won't be playing.

23 Apr 2017 16:05:01
His contract talks and his "questioned" ability have nothing to do with each other. If he is to leave, he will be a loss. unless we have better lined up to sign. At present he is starting to show his ability. I agree he had a bad patch. So did all the other players you list. So does every player. In my view we should do our utmost to offer him the contract he wants and only if he refuses to sign should we consider selling. That is what Koeman is saying. I know of no better player in his position that is waiting to sign for us? If you know of that player, please tell me who it is.

23 Apr 2017 22:22:11
Rooney has not been given enough game time under Jose, you watch Rooney now Zlatan is out, no coincidence Utd look a better team with Rooney in it, just hope it does not scupper our chances of signing him in the Summer.

24 Apr 2017 14:14:50
rooney will be for sale come summer a few goals here and there won't change that. Also our good performance have had nothing to do with rooney, we looked very good against chelsea and rooney was nowhere near the team, against burnley he scored a poacher's goal but it was pogba and martial who created the chance for him, other than that he ran a lot, gave the ball away a lot of times and was essentially rubbish.

22 Apr 2017 23:02:32
Hi end any truth in the Chinese consortium that are apparently in talks with Mr moshiri and bill been reported by mirror at 1035 this evening cheers in advance ed.

{Ed002's Note - Everyone hopes not.}

23 Apr 2017 00:15:27
Would the extra investment not be a good thing then? Saying it will help moshiri give more financial backing to rk.

{Ed002's Note - What extra investment?}

23 Apr 2017 09:45:50
Ed it's clear he's talking about the potential money from the Chinese consortium.

{Ed002's Note - That would go to whoever sells their shares to them - it doesn't go to the club. This is very, very basic finance and you all seem to be struggling with it.}

23 Apr 2017 11:25:52
The article I read says the investment would be naming rights to new stadium not actually buying shares ed so that money would go to the club would it not?

{Ed002's Note - If it is simply naming rights it would go to the club to help pay for the stadium in all likelihood.}

23 Apr 2017 11:44:07
How about investing in the naming rights for our new ground, pardon my limited knowledge of basic finance.

{Ed002's Note - That would simply be sponsorship starting in a few years time.}

23 Apr 2017 18:08:58
In a report I read the Chinese investment is in relation to finances for the stadium and allowing Moshiri to concentrate on financing the building of a team. Was also mentioned on SKY.

23 Apr 2017 22:25:26
If they put the money in can call it the Golden Phoenix for me, as long as we don't build a stadium like West Ham's.

24 Apr 2017 13:20:43
provided they don't call it Wan King stadium.