Everton Banter Archive December 23 2015

23 Dec 2015 20:32:21
getting away from takeover talk a win against the geordies on sat and a result at home against stoke could put us back in the champs league frame and set us up nicely for the game against spurs were those horrible draws we keep getting would not be a bad result.

{Ed025's Note - its just frustrating corny, we look so good at times and then so abject in some games, i dont think we are a mile away from being a really good side but we have to stop dropping silly points mate..

23 Dec 2015 21:15:29
cud not agree more ed its a case of so near yet so far its only frustrating mate because we all know were we could be but get annoyed at where we are but more frustraitng is ed is that this is the season for at least 2 clubs to really make a charge on the top 4 and the teams that are making that charge r the teams you would not put money on and this team is really capable of doing it but seem intent on blowing the chance. this could be our only chance for a few more years ed to get into the top 4, but if the take over happens then its a different ball game.

24 Dec 2015 13:22:51
easy solution
Team adopts a killer edge!
Manager adopts a killer edge!
simples.

23 Dec 2015 16:33:52
Just looking at some stats and we are conceding an average of 1.41 goals per game so far this season, up from 1.31 last campaign.

Also during Martinez's first successful season in charge Everton averaged 1.02 goals conceded per game. Steadily getting worse each season, but shouldn't be with the talent we have at the back.

23 Dec 2015 17:00:29
I wonder why it was a lot lower the first season? Anyone any idea?

Wouldn't you think with a £50m plus centre half who is a future England captain it would better. Along with the right back that has played there for years. A new left back who some people think should be starting before Englands first choice left back.

Along with the new buy who everyone is saying was a good signing. We also have the same keeper as 2 years ago. Apart from Howard's decline and the good defenders we have is there any other reason?

Manager? I can't really remember the season before Martinez took over. What was the defence like then? And 5 or 6 years before that?

Was the defence leaking goals easily? If it was it's nothing new. If it wasn't, what on earth would be the reason we weren't leaking goals easily back then?

Emmmmm.

23 Dec 2015 18:42:41
Already said that the first season the Team were still operating on Moyes residual, last season and this Roberto's staff methods are bedding in. TalkSport on Everton takeover, 'a team of Evertons standing should not be finishing in 10th or 11th, especially with an ambitious Manager', well he can have all the ambition in the World but he has to apply that ambition. Van Gale asking the media if they wish to apologise and he has a point, they say they are just reporting but what they are actually doing is stirring the brown stuff.

23 Dec 2015 14:39:10
Don't think anything will happen soon with this take over we need a new ground which will take years to happen and not sure how long our stadium will pass it's health and safety we could be forced to play else where think it's all a bit to late but hope I'm wrong.

23 Dec 2015 11:49:31
Everton have a history of trying to lift gloom of a run of bad results at Xmas time with a curve ball rumour, until there's big back page sold sign in the red echo I'll take it with a pinch of salt, a result at Newcastle will do for starters!

23 Dec 2015 19:06:54
It was back page of the Times Baz but I don't think they are the first group to be given exclusive time to look at our books. Suppose we'll know more in 6 weeks.
There's also an article on how we need investment or we will always be a selling club, pointing out we will find it hard to keep hold of Stones, Rom and Ross this summer.

23 Dec 2015 09:02:56
My concern if and when a takeover takes place is which way the 'pendulum 'swings for Everton. . Man U under US ownership partly successful but as I understand massively in debt. Also chopping and changing players and managers.

Liverpool under US ownership, getting investment in ground development, money available for players but far from successful on the pitch.

Then we have Aston Villa under US ownership, now up for sale, have sold their better players and not brought quality replacements and bottom of the league.

Evertonians will want investment in Goodison or a new ground, investment in the team. Any new owner should and will not be happy with the current results and performances. This will put pressure on Martinez to improve at his job or replacement will be found.

I personally keep an open mind about where a takeover comes from, because at the end of the day an investor wants a return on his investment. The days of an owner running a club for the fun of it are long gone.

Seasons greetings to everyone.

23 Dec 2015 10:36:31
Good! Martinez needs pressure on him as he has been in the comfort zone for to long now, so hopefully theses new owners will make him up his game as he needs too.

23 Dec 2015 11:04:32
your right mike robbie has been in the comfort zone far to long and this might be the kick up the arse he needs, you never know mate if this gets done and jose or any other big name manager hear about it they might think wow everton a huge club with massive potential a huge fan base this club could really take off with cash to spend, and with superb players allready there it could be a happy new year, so just hold on for a few weeks jose and pep and be very worried robbie la COYB.

23 Dec 2015 11:17:27
I wouldn't be getting carried away. Pressure on Martinez would be no harm. But talking about Jose and Pep coming is slightly pre-mature. Don't you think?

I have faith in Bill. I do believe he will only sell if he thinks its in Everton's best interest. One step at a time. If we get taken over then we can start dreaming.

Kind of.

23 dec 2015 11:33:43
thats all i was doing mate dreaming. zzzzzzz.

23 Dec 2015 11:54:01
These things tend to drag on, especially in Everton's case (transfers discussed then discussed again then again, you get the picture) , however, we have waited 10 years and that should be some kind of record. Hopefully this can be completed before the window closes and real pressure put on Martinez to extract that finger. The fella is really made of Teflon, when you think of the speculation surrounding Utd and Cities Managers, 5th and 3rd respectively, it is absolutely amazing Martinez does not even rate a mention.

23 Dec 2015 11:59:46
We are playing great football and with any reasonable luck and less of poor referee decisions we would be in the top 5. WE outplayed Leicester at the weekend but didn't get the breaks. We have excellent young talent and good experience to balance the enthusiasm. Yes there is a problem with your goalkeeper and yes Martinez is stubborn about selection and subtitutions but to say RM is in a comfort zone is bullshit. I would rather watch the boys playing the way they are this season than any under Moyes.
wellzee.

23 Dec 2015 12:46:46
wellzee, nothing to do with luck, Palace at home I will gove you, Norwich too many missed chances, Goalkeeping errors against Liverpool, Arsenal and City, didn't create anything against Leicester and they took their chances. We are were we should be give or take a place.

23 Dec 2015 14:40:05
Well said Swan. It's a cliché but its true. The table doesn't lie!

O yea and bluecorny who am I to get in your way of dreaming. Dream away!

23 Dec 2015 18:02:37
The truth is we have become too predictable, everyone has sussed us out. Its the same old same old every week. Same tactics, same line up, and our managers inability and stubborness to change things making it easy for other teams to set up against us. When plan A is not working you try plan B. Thing is Martinez hasn't got a plan B, resulting in us leaking goals and dropping points time after time, we can't carry on like this week in week out its a dangerous game to keep playing imo.

23 Dec 2015 19:47:15
I'm with you wellzee this page is depressing : ( (

23 Dec 2015 07:56:46
Just putting two and two together to possibly make five but over the last three months has Martinez been told, you must play Tim Howard regardless?

23 Dec 2015 08:20:23
Maybe Mush, Tim is loved in the States so could be a decent conspiracy story.

23 Dec 2015 06:25:10
Talkspo saying the same about takeover 200mil from some yanks. Now we all want our club to move forward and are desperate to be bought. But I do not trust yanks to run a 'soccer team' they do not instand what football is.

{Ed001's Note - considering one of Everton's major shareholders in the last few years is an American, that is just a bigoted viewpoint from a small minded individual. I bet you weren't saying that when Landon Donovan was in the team.}

23 Dec 2015 09:32:25
Great response ed. Agree completely.

23 Dec 2015 12:00:21
ZuluToffee, I wouldn't worry, they make so much money in the States that investment in our Club is just chump change and their expertise in clubs such as Utd is not brought into question, what these guys do is bring in local knowledge and expertise (Mourinho etc! ) .

23 Dec 2015 13:13:32
Ed 01 it is just my opinion yank owners are not great in running football clubs. And has Robert earl invested in taking the thr club forward. Oh donovan was a great player for us not an owner or part owner.

Happy xmas.

{Ed001's Note - it may be an opinion, but it is a small minded and bigoted one. You are judging people based on their nationality. There are plenty of Americans who know far more about football than you do I am sure. Try educating yourself.}