Everton Banter Archive February 23 2013

23 Feb 2013 22:40:12
i have completely lost all faith and confidence in jelavic. hope he leaves in the summer, what a load of cr*p

Jelly is a box player! that's where he belongs! down the middle! he is getting burned out by moyesies formation and lack of service in and around the box! the lad is trying but having to play the line alone! moyes has done it to all our past strikers, andy johnson, the yak, beatie e. tc!get it in the box regular and plat to his strengths! forest gump would be burnt out by negative batton up the hatches, davey!

Moyes was giving out about us trying to see out the last 10 mins as he wanted them to keep going for a second goal. I think we just ran out of steam in the last 10 due to the same players playing every game. Our squad is to small, think we will regret not getting a couple players in Jan. I would make a few changes by resting Baines swap with Oviedo, Pienaar swap with Mirrallas, Osman swap with Hitzelsperger, and Fellaini swap with Barkley and I would give Jelavic the first half with Vellios having a go in the second. If this team can not beat Oldham then we don't derserve to be in the cup. It will tell us a lot about our squad players. Something we need to know for the home straight.

Dero.

Agree with joeablue and I've been saying same thing for a long time as in regards to moyes ruining natural goalscoring centre forwards by running the b. llocks outta them chasing aimless long punts into the corners. {Ed025's Note - my biggest beef jimmy...is closing the keeper down all the time!, it never does any good, and then renders him offside when the ball returns, just a waste of energy for me ..

Agree with you ed. But as we all know he's only playing to orders. I do feel sorry for the lad his confidence is shot, those half chances he's been missing he would of buried a few months ago. You only have to see how many one touch finishes he's put away throughout his career and the positions he picked up to put them away, to realise he is a natural goalscorer not a winger or an Olympic marathon runner. {Ed025's Note - i agree jimbo..

23 Feb 2013 21:51:00
I think today's events just shows how inconsistent we are, no top 4 ambition and Moyes tactics are awful.

First he starts Naismith over Mirallas which gives us no pace on the right.

Secondly he brings a striker off with 10 minutes to go while we are chasing a 2nd and minutes later they go on and win it.

And thirdly he blames the referee for going overtime, I'm sorry but today was all down to Moyes and his mistaken tactics.

They always say that its a 'minimum' amount of added time, not three exactly so I imagine Norwich would of felt exactly the same if we scored after the three minutes

Timmyefc

23 Feb 2013 21:25:16
can someone tell me why we sign players and don't play them, its well documented we don't have money yet we allow players to be signed to keep the bench warm, vellios. hitzelberger the lad from barnsley kennedy and why are we not playing duffy. players look tired if they have a bad game they will play next week as they won't get replaced.

team for oldham

howard
distin jags duffy baines
kennedy hitzelberger fellani pinnear
mirralis jelly/vellios

Oviedo should get a game too

23 Feb 2013 21:08:55
Can anyone think back to the months just before David Moyes took over from Walter Smith (who many - if not most - supporters wanted out) and recall which other managers were wanted by the fans for the job? In fact, which other manager who was in the frame at the time - and would realistically have joined us back then - has since gone on to be a success?

Iain Dowie, Dave Jones, Gary Megson?? Rob Walker

Dowie - working as a pundit, not a manager, having failed at several clubs.
Jones - I like him, but he couldn't get Cardiff into the Premier League despite several play-off attempts.
Megson - Nuff said!
Who was in the frame that's actually been successful since then?

Who's Rob Walker? {Ed025's Note - he is the poster..

23 Feb 2013 20:26:38
Two tell-tale signs, I'd suggest, of DM losing it:
1. Publicly stating that more is expected of players, like he's recently done about Mirallis and, to a lesser degree, Jelavic. I was always taught, "praise in public", but "criticise in private".
2. Complaining about added time at the end of matches. He must really want to eventually succeed SAF if he's adopting the ManUtd boss's signature whinge. The better response is to defend better, as a team and as individuals, whatever minute of the match it is.

He publicly states he wants more goals and assists from Mirallas, and then proceeds to leave him on the bench in favour of a Sunday League quality player. I don't understand. He's a boring, clueless dinosaur and the sooner he goes the better for all concerned at EFC.
That side today, man for man, should have comfortably beaten Norwich who had scored 1 in 6 games? Then score 2 in 9 minutes against us down to Moyes' negative tactics. The whole team should be ashamed to pick up their wages this month. Embarrassing.
Banana Balls

23 Feb 2013 19:58:26
Use the Agree or Disagree buttons:
Agree - you want to see Everton playing riskier attacking football even if that means a match might be lost 3-4
OR
Disagree - you want to see Everton playing safer defensive football that gets 1-0 wins

Silly question that mate, if the first one happens all season we get relegated, the second one we win the league!Rob Walker

The seasons that NUFC under Keegan lost the occasional match 3-4 was also when they were challenging for the title. Obviously, I don't want us to lose every game 3-4, but an occasional such defeat would be grudgingly acceptable IMHO if it was part of a policy of playing expansive, progressive, exciting, attacking football.

23 Feb 2013 19:36:14
I know that we are all disappointed and depressed at failing to get a result due to another late goal, but I feel that there are too many knee jerk reactions to the Moyes situation. We are still a great club, with a decent team and yes we still have a decent manager ( and yes I would prefer that he commits himself to the cause sooner rather than later ). As supporters we have a duty to get behind the team and the manager, starting on tuesday night. After all, we still have Wembley and European qualification through our league position to play for, so all is not yet lost. Let's get behind the team and be positive.

I don't think it's a knee-jerk reaction to be criticising DM at the present time.
Of course the lack of strength and depth in our squad is a major factor, but we've seen too many examples of the team's individual & tactical errors costing us dear. It's up to the manager to prepare the team and motivate the players. If we once again fail to perform when we play that lot across the park, when so called lesser teams have defeated them this season, then it surely will be a case of DM having taken this club (with its current financial setup) as far as he can.

Whilst I agree that Moyes like most managers does have his failings. I feel that as most of us felt that this was our most realistic chance of reaching the top 4 that he has been badly let down by our wealthy board members, who either failed or refused to put their hands in their pockets early enough during the January transfer window. Moyes can only work with the hand he has been dealt. Not for the first time some of our board members should hang their heads in shame.

23 Feb 2013 19:18:39
Fed up moyes has run his course I think it's time for a change. Many people are suggesting Roberto Martinez but I'm not so sure, he has regularly spent at Wigan in the last 3 years it has been 8 million, 8.3 million, 9.1 million, granted not a huge amount but a far bit compared to us and with this they are still in a relagation scrap year in year out. If we are looking for a manager who knows how to play nice football and get bargains we should take a look at Michael Laudraup. If he could sign us a Michu or somebody who could actually score it would be amazing. Another potential replacement which I do not think many of you would agree with however is Paul Lambert. As seen at Norwich he can work on a smaller budget, has great knowledge of the European game and plays fairly attractive football. I know he is not doing great at Aston villa but I he never had the players there and has to work with basically the youth team. Also Benteke for 7 million would have been affordable for us. As I have said before I'm not sure all of you would agree with me but I think that he has shown what he is capable of at Norwich.
Would be interested to hear what people's 3 man short list would be.
Cheers lads
BlueClarkey

23 Feb 2013 19:44:26
id take martinez if he would come, at least we would play football and be a bit more positive, and you make out moyes has had no money to spend, in the last 3 windows he's spent 20m, and yes he had to sell to get the cash but he has still had that much that's more than martinez has.
5.5m mirallas 4.5m pienaar 5m jelavic 3m stones
0.5m gibson and kennedy, and naismith on a free.
ste c

Martinez, Laudrup, Hughton.

Blueclarkey- I would go for martinez for a few reasons. firstly I think he would jump at the chance to manage us. I think he is affordable.
he has been brought up to play football the right way and he was instrumental in totally resurrecting swansea and got them playing good football which was carried on by brenda and now Laudrup.
he has then gone on to manage in the premier league with limited resources at a very small club and the fact he has kept them there is a miracle. I think he plays attractive football and isn't afraid to take risks and am confident he would bring a lot of our younger players on. I worked with a lad last year who was a big wigan fan and he told me even though they are favourites to go down every season he is never defensive or negative and goes out to win every game with style.
Just what we need I reckon.

Why would Laudrup leave Swansea to come here though? Would be a waste of time for him to do that. He may as well stay at Swansea.

Mike

Not hughton he's even more defensive than moyes if that's possible.

Roberto Martinez would be my first choice.
Laudrup is having a very good season, but it's just his first in the EPL. Besides, I reckon he's got unfinished business as a manager in Spain.
Whoever eventually succeeds DM, he'll have a difficult job blending a team/squad during the next few years as the core older players come to the end of their Everton careers, and as our younger talent take a while to develop into players suitable for the EPL, and as our list of available incoming players is restricted by our lack of funds (both in terms of transfer fees and wages), and as there'll probably be no lure of European football. {Ed025's Note - thats one thing i hope is looked at, our inability to bring young players through citizen..

1. Laudrup 2. Martinez 3. Bilic

23 Feb 2013 18:54:01
Eds, where did Feb 21 and 22 disappear from banter 2 {Ed025's Note - i dont know mate..

23 Feb 2013 18:49:13
Frustating that today. Should be beating teams like norwich, especially if we were one nil up away from home. I don't mind grinding results out, but i'm just not as confident as I was three or four years ago ( when we did win loads of games one nil and the steel of the team was there to be seen). Still don't think Moyes out, wish he would come out with the contract talks though, and would have liked someone fresh in the team in january, frustrating all the deals that we hear about where in the last hours.
However. if we can save money and spend some more in the summer, then I can somehow see the sense in it. Just seems like we're paying for that now, would have liked to get someone in and hopefully push for that fourth spot and a cup win. I've said for a while now 6th is the best we can hope for I think, squads just not good enough, end of. The starting 11 on their day are more than capable, and I do agree that the rest of that falls to the manager, but by and large, I think Moyes should stay.
Sign a new contract, some money spent in the summer after we win the FA cup and take it from there. if we get a new manager, I see the rebuild taking longer than its worth. only because were so close to our targets now with Moyes.
And yes Moyes is negative. but let's face it, our squad is not good enough to play attacking football week in - week out, before this season Moyes has got us to wear we out by Solid hard work, excellent defence and determination. I feel its the Determination, and motivation that is missing. purely from the lack of jan signings and moyes contract talks.
Come on the blues, let's get to wembley and not let the reds finish above us. {Ed025's Note - you make some good points molly, but for me we missed the boat mate!...we were in our strongest position for years, and a couple of signings could have seen us make that final push, but now that boat has sailed, and its crew look demoralised and flat, just my opinion..

23 Feb 2013 18:42:15
Liverpool fan here, from Liverpool but living overseas. First off, I'm not here to take the Mickey over today. Wanted you lot to clear something up though, because I don't get it. Why all the negativity from a lot of the fans about moyes and some of the team? For me, moyes has done well without winning silverware. He hasn't had much money to spend, and most of the time spends the bit he gets wisely. It's nearly March and you're still in the cup, and have an outside chance of 4th. and you're above us! Wouldn't you have taken that last august? As a red I can say that moyes would be a welcome departure from goodison, because I don't think you would attract a 'big' name due to the lack of transfer kitty, and others that would take the job would have to be very good to do as well as him. Don't look at this site much, so don't know the score with the bigger picture at Everton. Just think some of the fans are a bit eager to start moaning. Anyway, all the best for the cup, I'd rather you won it than the mancs (but I hope we get above you in the league!). Davedee {Ed025's Note - as you say dave..you dont watch it every week, those of us who do, feel that moyes failure to sign a new contract, has been one of the reasons for our recent slump. if a player ran down his contract( like pienaar did) moyes would be very angry, and brandish them disloyal...so, people who live in glass houses and all that...by they way...give my regards to dozy, beaky, mick, and titch.. :)

It's all about the football or lack of it with moyes. I think after 11 years most blues fans are fed up with his negative approach to games, a bit like your club when Woy was in charge, plus his contract issue has turned a lot of fans against him myself included.

Fair enough Ed025, makes a bit more sense now. Oh, and the rest of the boys are good thanks, but our Legend of Xanadu sounds crap these days! Davedee

23 Feb 2013 18:35:07
Moyes out martinez in least he has a football brain for a plan B.

23 Feb 2013 18:17:30
Moyse blaming Lee Mason for defeat what a load of rubbish, He is to blame, team selection, substitutions, we have got to get the players who are not performing out of the team. and off the bench. give kids a chance, can't do any worse. KK.

23 Feb 2013 18:10:27
I have to finally hold my hands up and say I've had enough. Moyes has put doubt in the minds of his players with his comments about his contract. I have no qualms with Moyes ability to buy quality players, whether this is his ability or that of his scouts remains in doubt. What I do have a problem with is his inability to get a full season out of his players, his tactical decisions and his decision not to give youth a chance.

Moyes comments were akin to your girlfriend saying "I'll stay with you as long as nobody better turns up", and I was shocked at how blas� he was about internal matters.

I respect Moyes for the stability he has given the club and the group of players he has assembled, however I now believe he is no longer the man to take us to the next step. His somewhat cocky statement that HE will assess his situation at the end of the season should be taken out of his hands.

Popeye

23 Feb 2013 18:03:15
once upon a time moyes said the only way ill leave this club is when the fans don't want me anymore. at the moment davey a lot of fans don't want you, I do, and more too. but us fans don't deserve this, we give it all to ye, including our hearts and hard earned money, sick to the back teeth with the lot. just show us some respect, and that goes to every player and suit involved in our beloved everton. {Ed025's Note - well said mate..

Is it the beginning of the end with the love affair with moyes?"ill go when the fans have had enough of me"well Davey your actions and reluctance to sign a contract are slowly testing the fans patience and I think due to this, many fans have had enough of you

23 Feb 2013 17:51:45
If we win 8-0 on Tuesday Ed, I'll give you my entire belongings which isn't that big considering I'm only 15. :D

It just sounds weird doesn't it? Everton keeping a clean sheet. More chance of Moyesy not sitting back in a match. {Ed025's Note - unless your belongings consist of jack daniels, and superking ciggies keith...theh they are nit much use to me mate... :)

23 Feb 2013 17:46:03
Is it time for mr moyes to go, I think his mind games over his will I won't I sign is starting to effect the team and all the rumours can't be helping steady the already rocking boat,
Is our season going to be all about tuesday, can we beat Oldham, will we finish in the top six, every year I buy my season ticket full of hope, next year I will do the same and will carry on year after year with the same feeling that this is the year but that hope is now begining to fade, I do hope i'm wrong,
mr moyes please if this is it, thank you and good luck for the future but we need to sort it out now not when all our hope has faded for another year.

southport john {Ed025's Note - im with you john...its time for him to make his bloody mind up!..

I agree with John, I to am a long standing season ticket holder and think the D. M may have done all he can for the club, we had a great start to the season and played some very attractive football but since the defeat at home to Chelsea our overall performances have been well below par, come on David either shake this team up or leave gracefully.

23 Feb 2013 17:44:45
Awful, awful result. Fed up with negative tactics. Wouldn't quite say "Moyes Out" yet, as he's done a lot of good and frankly, we have no idea who we'd replace him with. Even if we went for say, Martinez, there's no guarantee he'd join. But what I would love is for David Moyes to make a decision now on his future. Stop mucking around, and playing with the club that made you the respected manager you are today. Either sign, or make it clear you aren't, so we can line up a replacement. I'm 95% sure we won't get 4th. Even if Spurs completely collapsed, don't think we'd catch Arsenal, and even Liverpoo look like they're on the up. Think we need to focus on the Cup now - try and win a trophy. That wouldn't persuade Fellaini to stay, and if anything, I think it might even persuade Moyes to leave - as he can then leave with a nice send-off, knowing he has won a trophy here. Let's face it, we really SHOULD beat Oldham tomorrow, and we should beat Wigan at home too. We are then looking at Wembley, with a 50% chance of it being Milwall/Blackburn. And even if we get City or United, we've beaten them both recently. Who's to say we wouldn't do it on the day?I think the squad looks tired and the club needs something new. January is where we lost 4th imho, but time and time again under Moyes we throw away leads playing defensively. Hopefully, let's bounce back with a big win vs Oldham, then get to Wembley. Anything in the league is a bonus. But I would be absolutely devastated if we finished below Liverpoo. {Ed025's Note - great post that AJ..

23 Feb 2013 17:39:55
very hard to say this but this is the first time that I've not been bothered that we lost usually i'm doing the bap says it all I've had enough of moyes rubbish tactics never has a plan B he's supposed to be a master tactician well if he was he's losing it or maybe he's got his sights set other places. irish blue {Ed025's Note - well im very bothered mate!!

23 Feb 2013 17:36:22
Give up on moyes now bye bye top 6 never mind top 4, I've given up on jelavic one season wonder like pappis cisse, time for change at Everton now, let moyes win the fa cup (though we will probably get beat 5-0 by oldham), then let him go and we can go back to being a bottom table team

Phil, coyb (Moyes Out) {Ed025's Note - come on phil...we are still a good side..a side in a slump...but like the terminator...we will be back!..

23 Feb 2013 17:29:41
In reference to the OP who said about dominating them and taking nothing: We didn't dominate the game. Norwich deserved a point, if not the 3 they eventually got.

Unless the board want to back Moyes with pure dosh, he has to go, not only for the sake of teaching the Board a lesson, but also for the club. His tactics and just everything is wrong when we go ahead.

I know Moyesy's problem, in his 11 year reign, has been sitting back, but I thought that changed at the start of the season (eg: sticking it to Villa when they were down and grabbing 3 goals when it would normally be 2 at a big push, and taking Orient for 5 when we just would get 3 at the most up before sitting back - not to mention getting 3 vs. Swansea, Saints, etc), however we've crashed down since then.

If Moyesy leaves now (at the end of the season I mean) then he'll be remembered for the good he did, because no one can have a go when he's been backed with virtually just a packet of Jaffa Cakes in the Transfer Windows.

There comes a time when everything has to change, and Utd. will be hit hard in the same fashion when Red Nose leaves them, but our time has come. And don't say I'll change my mind if we pick up a win or two.

The perfect ending for us now can be:
We win the FA Cup.
Then win on the place where we can't seem to - it's like they have the Indian sign over us - An*lfield.
We then bid Moyesy a farewell and thank him for the places he's took us, considering his Jaffa Cake budget.

Thanks Moyesy, good luck in the future, but we need to change. {Ed025's Note - good post that keith..

Good OP from Keith EFC.
DM's time as Everton manager is at a close, surely? Thanks for what you've done, good luck in the future, but let's bring in someone who'll start a new era based on younger talent playing attacking football - even if that means a transitional period of finishing mid-table for a few seasons. It can't be any worse than the prospect of our ageing, knackered, unable-to-clinically-finish, unable-to-properly-defend, current squad disappearing down a bottomless pit of boring, clueless, heartless, winless, negative dross played in front of dwindling crowds of despairing supporters.
HeWhoDaresWins {Ed025's Note - and i thought i was depressed!..

23 Feb 2013 17:27:33
negative football is killing us we can't all be wrong

23 Feb 2013 17:25:10
One positive today was Coleman, Baines was unusually poor.

23 Feb 2013 17:20:14
Wtf!1-0 up and still got beat norwich ain't won in 10 games aswel. can imagine moyes talking later it will be, we played well dominated and didn't take our chances--excuses excuses excuses. what aload of rubbish. ryanfromleic

23 Feb 2013 17:17:59
Unfortunately teams have worked us out, they know that our strengths lies on the left hand side, when they stop baines and pienaar playing we lack creativity. Mirallas is the only other creative player we have and he has been on the bench of late. Jelavic is struggling and moyes never has a plan b, and does nt seem to work on different tactics in training to develop one
He is good at getting players fit, but I struggle and have for sometime to see what else he has to offer. I have had enough.
Tays EFC

The manager gets paid to come up with an alternative plan but from what I can see our manager doesn't have a plan B it's one tactic fits all with him.

23 Feb 2013 17:17:45
wow I felt so positive not that long ago, now I think top 8 is beyond us! you just know with us that 1-0 isn't enough

23 Feb 2013 17:15:38
I'm sorry but I have had enough now. We have thrown it away yet again. we will finish behind liverpool aswell. i've always kept the faith in moye's but I think its time for him to go. Why play players out of position all the time. He goes on about how he wants this and that from players but leaves them on the bench. Yet again he doesn't give the younger players a chance. Last season I thought jelavic was a snip at 5 mil but now.

Andy {Ed025's Note - do you not think think the jelly problem may be moyes fault?..

I 100% believe it is moyes fault he doesn't seem to no how to play to jelavics strengths and this contract business is bugging me we aren't getting shown the real picture there's no good going on that's for sure

Moyes has destroyed jelly imo I've not noticed him coming out publicly praising moyes like some of our other players, but can you blame him.

23 Feb 2013 17:14:44
well I think we can assume that we defiantly won't be finishing in the top 4 now so I think we should go all out for the fa cup nearly 20 years without a trophy is to long for a club like ours

23 Feb 2013 17:13:39
Can't believe that can't help but to say its moyes's fault again. they wes there for the taking then nothinG. unhappy blue

23 Feb 2013 17:12:21
ok so reality check has hit us, didn't kill the game off and Norwich took advantage, think our realistic target is going to be 7th, Liverpool are playing well and were far behind arsenal and spurs now, need a top performance in the cup on tuesday or our season is over, oldham know were dodgy defending set pieces {Ed025's Note - it was not good today rob...but we will beat oldham 8-0 at least.. :)

Sorry ed but if we score 2 goals ill be shocked {Ed025's Note - you will be shocked then mate..

23 Feb 2013 17:11:07
I for one will be happy when we don't renew Moyes contract. Shocking decisions today. Naismith on all game basically playing with 10 men, Pienaar subbed says enough. Clueless.

23 Feb 2013 17:10:07
arrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhh. just aarrrgghhh bye bye 4th spot! we defend set pieces like that against Oldham Matt Smith will punish us like he did to those across the park! agefc

23 Feb 2013 17:08:02
fellaini is useless at defending set pieces {Ed025's Note - he could not trap a bag of cement today ryan..

23 Feb 2013 17:06:53
Negative Davie strikes again! The sooner he goes the better.

23 Feb 2013 17:03:06
f. cking pathetic

23 Feb 2013 17:01:35
Didnt see the game, but let me guess! We dominated play, missed loads of chances and then went to sleep in the last ten minutes. Sounds very familiar to the majority of our performances this season. Another season of false horizons. {Ed025's Note - you have it spot on ally..

23 Feb 2013 17:01:12
Why every game we play do we sit back and invite balls to be lumped in the box? Any body agree that is is a rubbishTY tactic {Ed025's Note - i do mate..

Instructions from moyes simple, blame him not the players as their only carrying out his orders.

Cant agree more! how is it every1 can see but moyes he is starting to bug me never takes a chance used to get away with it when his defence used to save him but they ain't doing it now and the cracks r starting to show in his tactics time for change its far far to stale new ideas needed

23 Feb 2013 16:58:19
please please go david moyes I have had enough of your negative football sick of your huff and puff football and buyin players to play them out of position well done norwich you attack and try to win games we try and defend when an person can plainly see we don't no how tooo

100% agree mate

23 Feb 2013 16:57:54
Am sorry, but tactically moyes is hasn't got it, norwhich where there for the taking today. why do teams put us under so much pressure in the second half, all we seem too do is defend then hoof it out of are own half only for the opposition to pick it up and attack us again. seems like the Everton players have run out of steam.

johnnyboy.

23 Feb 2013 16:55:42
noooooooooooooooo ffs we have thrown away another 3 points now we will go into the oldham game with no confidence if we could have got that second goal we would have been fine this is really annoying.

EFCMike {Ed025's Note - it is mike..

23 Feb 2013 16:55:11
Losing at Norwich - this website will be going into meltdown. {Ed025's Note - we should have wrapped it up in the first half!..

Dont no what game you were watching hardly created a clear cut chance

23 Feb 2013 16:53:20
How did we lose that game?
Dominated until the 85th minute then panicked at 1-1, need to go full out for the cup now

Dave Tuebrook {Ed025's Note - i agree dave..

We lost it, because of a negative approach AGAIN. Why was mirallas on the bench for an away match. Naismith is not good enough.
we should of strengthened in Jan. But everyone except Everton know that. like I said we will not get 4th and red will Finnish above us.
bluepaul {Ed025's Note - hard to argue with that paul..

23 Feb 2013 16:52:28
I give up!

Good bye, Top 4. {Ed025's Note - i think you may be right.. :(

Just as well wed get humiliated playing in the champions league plus the board would just pocket the money anyway

23 Feb 2013 16:52:00
Caving in to Norwich! That's it for me - I no longer care if DM leaves in he summer.

Fully agree. I love what DM has done for us, but the board don't want to know, and nor does Moyesy anymore.

23 Feb 2013 15:33:07
Why as moyes picked naismith over mirallis!is he injured again" {Ed025's Note - he may be resting him, or taking no chances with the cup game coming up..

23 Feb 2013 14:37:23
Howard, baines, distin. jags, coleman, pienaar, gibson, osman, naismith, felliani, jelavic. starting line up"coyb

23 Feb 2013 12:10:11
hope ross the nod today or at least 20 mins

Not a chance mate

23 Feb 2013 04:17:46
just picked up the following on the arsenal fans website after the defeat by Bayern: "Arteta was bought to be a deep lying midfielder but can't do the job the team requires of him, which is breaking up opposition play and slotting through balls to strikers, we got him 5 years too late. " True.
Although it is made out that Arteta made all the moves before getting his move to Arsenal, Moyse knew that he was not the same player and sanctioned it, which was good business for the club. I think Moyse, for all his blindspot over PN, knows what is going to work and who is labouring out on the pitch. Naismith�s career as a top player is already in doubt, and as much as Fellaini would be a loss, he is not in my opinion irreplaceable if the money were used shrewdly. If we move a bit faster than a trolley at Tescos in the summer transfer window, we could (Europe or no Europe) have a very decent starting squad in August.
Oscar

22 Feb 2013 23:44:41
How can anyone be sure that DM wouldn't take the job at Chelsea or ManCity just because we imagine that he supposedly wouldn't have total control of football matters at those clubs? Who's to say that he wouldn't say which players come and go at those clubs if he's their manager? And he'd certainly prepare the players, select the team, and decide the tactics. What he clearly wants, IMHO, is to win something in England and - be honest - is that more likely at those clubs at present than at our club?

Because he won't be offered the Chelsea job as they don't want him and neither do Utd, Arsenal or anyone half decant.

He will struggle to get another job if he leaves us. I mean his CV won't make impressive reading for any new chairman/owner.
Not a sniff of a trophy in 10 years!.
i can only see him going to celtic if lennon moves to EPL.
He may have a chance of winning a trophy up there but then again it is dithereing Dave we are talking about here!