Everton Banter Archive January 24 2015

24 Jan 2015 19:27:24
Hello Ed`s and fellow blues, I`ve read all the posts and reactions to the current dismal run of form and tried to be as objective and optimistic as possible.
The Manuel/Basil Fawlty dig I had was an attempt to make light of the clubs current plight. We are all totally gutted/disappointed/disgusted/angry/embarrassed/brassed off. well you know.
What worries me more is the fact that during this current period of unacceptable performances the manager/club/chairman/board, whoever, have the audacity to sanction a jolly up to Quatar.
Now I`m not saying that they are all off pissin` it up, and I`m sure they are working very hard, (let`s hope on corners, set pieces and defensive mistakes), but it seems to me that the club as a whole are totally out of touch with their supporters. We`ve been subjected to this absolutely shocking sequence of performances and after the Mirallas penalty debacle, the utter disgrace that was Martinez` attempt to defend the action of Kevin Mirallas. I think the club as a whole needs to show a LOT more character and steel off the pitch as well as on it. DO NOT patronize me, do not spew out your inane drivel and expect me to happily accept your explanations/excuses. Everton FC right now are showing a scant disregard to their supporters and the financial sacrifice make week in/out.
They get knocked out the cup and get rewarded by going on a jolly to the sun. They should be made to go to Finch Farm and lie down in puddles in the pissin` rain for hours at a time then sandblasted from close range. This trip has angered me more than the shocking performances. Also there seems to be only one set of b_llox in the Martinez household and Bobby`s wife got the swingers.
We are perilously close to the abyss. We need something to happen, NOW. To be relega. I can`t even bring myself to. FFS Roberto Martinez surely you cannot destroy us.
I am afraid.
Hugster, EFC.

{Ed025's Note - good post hugster, this trip has been arranged for a while mate, but that does not mean its a good idea, a lot of what you say is correct hugster, and i must say the club is beyond a joke when it comes to transparency..

We only got knocked out the cup 10 days ago. It can only have been arranged for a while if we knew we were getting knocked out. Which doesn send a good message

{Ed025's Note - the trip was arranged a while back preki, but no definite date was set..

I thought about this trip myself. I put a previous post on in which I called it a jolly. Then I reconsidered and thought. "Man City" have been on exactly the same type of trip and they have just got back. If it's ok for Man City, then surely it's ok for us? Perhaps I am too old fashioned and don't realise the sort of team bonding that goes on with these sort of trips. By the way, I missed the results today, how did Man City get on?

They got beat degsy so did chelsea and swansea mate

I was being sarcastic fozza. Meaning that Man City had been on a trip just like us and it therefore must be ok. how did they get on again? What are their fans moaning about? A pointless trip to a sunny climate!

Fair enough degsy had a lager and scotch hangover yesterday mate never again

Hope it was worth it mate.

24 Jan 2015 18:09:12
FA.Cup.
City OUT, Chelski OUT, Spuds OUT, South'n OUT,
United should be OUT.
What a time for us to have had a cup run.
O.K. some good teams still in the mix.
I hope Mr.Blobby & the boys have had a nice rest in the sun, because after todays result, Palace will be on a high for the game next week.
If we loose that then what do we do?
Answer! nothing, more of the same from the Goodison think tank.

24 Jan 2015 14:07:52
A ship with a captain sails in whatever direction the captain says. A ship without a captain goes round and round in circles, never getting anywhere. Before we turn our club into a ship without a captain, we need to have a new one ready lined up. As far as I am aware, we do not have anyone lined up. Although RM is not my choice nor ever has been, it worries me that some supporters are calling for his head now. I trust BK will make the right decision at the right time. That time is NOT now. Not unless he has a new manager ready to take over. We all need to get behind RM and the team and allow them to play with confidence and pick up the points necessary to stay in this league.

24 Jan 2015 14:50:08
this a text I got off my smug faced red rubbish mate soon to be ex mate. HI ITS ANOTHER FA CUP WEEKEND BUT FOR YOU EVERTONIANS ITS CALLED SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. So I am off to the pub in my everton shirt to give those red smug faced b--------s. a hard time come on you Bolton.

A sinking ship has no captain or crew!

For once I agree degs :)

Wakka, like you ate I suspect we are going down. But let's hope that the one thing RM does right is to get us sufficient points to stay up. Then we can all call for his head. Look at the debacle at Newcastle if you want to see how not to behave as supporters. They nearly got Pardew the sack yet he managed to turn them round and then walk away.

Good point degsy I think we would only Ever be a stepping stone for him, but his true quality has yet to show

If he went now I'd be happy. To keep him on you have to believe he has the ability to keep us up by getting the required points.

One win in thirteen matches?

I don't see how keeping him in post helps us just because there is no decent manager to take over. He is killing us now, slowly but surely.
If you're bleeding to death do you wait for the ambulance to arrive before you put pressure on the wound? Of course not, you use anything at your disposal to stem the flow.

Keeping him as manager is just like waiting for an ambulance. But in our case nobody has bothered dialling 999 because they can't see how bad the wound is.

I like the analogy BlueMacPK4, so I will try and take it further. It is like you are bleeding to death and you don't trust the guy you asked to phone the ambulance. So you get rid of him. Hold on a minute. we need someone to phone the ambulance or I will bleed to death. Too late we got rid of the other guy and didn't have anyone else lined up to take over that responsibility. I suggest we get someone lined up first.and hopefully that is exactly what BK is doing now.but don't hold your breath mate.

24 Jan 2015 12:32:25
Did anyone see the little Aussie bloke that scored 2 goals against China in the Asian cup? I think his name was Kahil or Cahill something like that, I read he's Australia's all time leading scorer and is still top quality at the age of 35. Might be worth having a look at, thoughts Blues?

24 Jan 2015 13:08:20
Don't understand the clamour from some fans for Cahill to return. Was diabolical in his last season for us, a few years in that rubbish league across the pond won't have changed much. A great servant but we got rid at the right time.

Very true, there were so many current Everton players that performed better at the World Cup wasn't there?

24 Jan 2015 13:41:16
i'd have him back in a coaching role. He certainly wasnt one of the daft footballers, and did have a good eye for the game. Plus he loves Everton, and maybe he can show some of our current players how to act accordingly whilst donning the Royal Blue Jersey.

Who says he would come back anyway?

25 Jan 2015 05:15:05
Dont think he'd be welcome back in with the legends like ossie degsy, the one who said he shouldn't of got a cheer from the fans for being a great servant?. Which is a shame because all osmans got is years, being here for a bit longer than everyone else bar hibbert, see osman scores goals though that's what, wait a minute, cahill got more goals then osman? How could this be, so, if we are going to have a bit of door swinging bith ways, cahill surely deserves a little respect himself? ain't that right, so how disrespectful of mr perfect to talk about someone like that. Cahill should be brought back immediatly, fortune teller degsy has spoken, he's said osman is the cure, cahill has more goals in less time, get both of them on either wing and bingo, champions league winners 2016 here we come.

Don't make it so personal Swan. By the way, I would welcome Timmy Cahill back at the drop of a hat mate. If ever I wanted a battler on the pitch who had a decent shot ad could change a game. he is the one. Even in a coaching capacity he might inspire. A real footballing legend that still is going. And re Osman.when we winour 2nd game of the season without him. YES SECOND game without him, I will throw a party and you are invited. We are half way through the season and he has played a handful of games and yet we have only on 1 game without him. yet the guy has supporters such as yourself on his back all the time. I think that is one reason why I defend him all the time. We will see if he recovers.then we will see if we start winning a few games again. Certainly our run without him has been catastrophic!!

Further to the last post.Ossie and Cahill have scored more goals between them than Alcaraz, MCcGeady, Kone, McCarthy, Barry and Besic ever will for us. GUARANTEED! None of them score more than 1 a season. period.

25 Jan 2015 18:40:39
Wow, why so aggressive? You know I never did believe in many conspiracies. What I don't get is you defend him for people rightly getting on his back, yet you have a go at mccarthy and besic etc and if we go by what you said about defending osman, we should get behind everyone shouldn't we? Now I do want to question, seeing how made up you were when utd went above us last season, whether you are loving our slump and want us to go down so you can come back and say 'i told you so'. i'm not so sure if you're as much of an evertonian rather than an attention seeking narcassist. Oh now who looks aggressive, my manners, now I don't pray or believe in any supernatural entities, but you obviously pray to your moyes god, and his 2 servants, leon osman and phil neville, osman whom you told me you had a crush on. You should have a good season degsy, your beloved real sociedad avoiding relegation, have a good one.

24 Jan 2015 10:45:02
Today were linked with pato I can't see this happening plus he always injured, if he was the same player he was when he was 18 it would be a good signing

24 Jan 2015 13:43:06
One from the same cloth as Drenthe imo, would just bring trouble to the changing rooms.

24 Jan 2015 14:46:09
I think your mistaken. It's a Patio for Bills garden.

Think this is the wrong loose threads being tied by the media. I heard that Pato was Sampdoria's other choice, if they couldn't get Eto'o. I doubt Bobby would take on a player with a history of being a troublemaker, with obvious signs of unrest already in the dressing room, unless he believes two negatives make a positive.

24 Jan 2015 09:25:08
This could quite possibly be one of the most relaxing weekends I have had for a long time. Mmm bored all ready. Where's the tension, the anxiety, the anger. I know I will go shopping at Tesco's with the missus that should do it.

{Ed025's Note - shopping with the missus is boring WB...mind you watching us is not much better mate..

24 Jan 2015 09:34:47
Not my missus Ed. She is the Roy Keane of shopping trolleys mate. If NASCAR did shopping trolleys she would be champ.

{Ed025's Note - love it mate..

24 Jan 2015 08:58:56
New to this. But read your comments a lot. Fellow blues. If this little Spanish waiter we have in charge gets us out of this I will gladly eat my hat. He looks the part talks a good game. But to me he is a fake and most of all. WEAK. Yes lost the players and the fans.bye bye Bobby it would of been nice but it isn't to be.

{Ed025's Note - im with you dave..

How fickle are some of you fans wanting Martinez's head, This is the guy that took s to a record Premier League points tally last season. We have had horrendous luck with injuries and referee decisions this year and yes I do not agree with all of RM's decisions, however the performance away at Wolfsberg cannot be forgotten and I am sure we will bounce back once mcCarthy and the others are fit. COYB

{Ed025's Note - i love your optimism mate, but there is something wrong with the club at the moment, we have become boring and predictable, and although some might not like admitting it we are in serious danger of relegation!, this is down to the manager, im afraid the buck stops at his door..

Other clubs go through periods with players out injured for long spells but still carry on winning and performing. It is the managers job to ensure he has the personnel in his squad to cover for this and adjust formation and tactics to maintain a winning mentality.
It's a good manager who sticks to his guns and not be influenced by others, but it's a bad manager who doesn't change things when it's all going wrong.

It is not fickle it is fear! Last year is last year, if you want to talk about el Bob in other seasons let's be fair and do his full Premiership record then.

End of Season

2013-14 72 pts good +22
2012-13 36 pts good -26 (relegated)
2011-12 43 pts good -20
2010-11 42 pts good -21
2009-10 36 pts good -42

Now let's have a look at the figures at the start of February each season.

2013-14 pts 45 good +12
2013-13 pts 24 good -18
2011-12 pts 20 good -27
2010-11 pts 27 good -22
2009-10 pts 25 good -27
Today pts 23 good -4

See a pattern? Other than a better goal difference we are around the level of 5 of el Bob's 6 seasons of managing in the Premiership at this stage of the season, that makes a lot of us look at last season and think "fluke!" And worries us, because 2 out of 5 of those previous seasons he finished under 40 points, let's hope for the clubs sake it doesn't end up 3 out of 6!

Ed, why did that last post turn good into the word good? Is it my end or yours?

{Ed025's Note - i dont know wedge..i never edited it mate..

It's not fickle it's realism . There's no heart no passion no leadership. It's slow dull and easy to play against. Possession football is not only about moving the ball you move the other team around into places they don't want to be. Quick accurate passing with movement players wanting the ball. We have none of that at all. Where's the direction where's the leadership. On the ppitch and on the touchline. Ed I just can't see where our next win is comin from. Fickle or not fear is set in to me and dare I say our players and manager. Just for our fans if nothin else. COME ON EVERTON

{Ed025's Note - i agree dave..

23 Jan 2015 22:36:54
When eto'o goes I woulnt mind us getting pato as his replacment

Have you heard the same rumours?

I seen them pato unsure of nearly injured as a much as gibson better option the defrel like. wingers I would have at everton who we could afford sinclair 2 mil pienaar replacement when we sell for 2 mil. would like bolasie 7 mil or if not sahko from wovles 5 mil