Everton Banter Archive August 25 2015

25 Aug 2015 22:20:47
47 games, that's all he's played. So how about we as one million for each game. Pretty good return on our investment. Because at the end of the day that's all these players are, an investment, and some you win but most you lose.

25 Aug 2015 22:11:52
Stones going to Chelsea because Terry has told him he is his real father. Let's be honest the way he put it about he could be.

25 Aug 2015 22:05:32
Let's just remember Stones is only 21. He has God knows how many people in his ear telling him what he should do, and an agent who has probably been given a nice incentive bonus to make this happen. We still haven't heard from the club about this issue (nothing new there), so before we hang the kid out to dry let's hear what the club have to say. I don't see this as a "Rooney" issue either, he was a match winner and scored goals. Stones when all said and done is a defender.

25 Aug 2015 22:03:56
. well here we go again. so we've gone from getting Yarmalenko to no Yarmalenko, no Charlie Austin, the guy Mores from River Plate can't even get a flipping work permit, Stonesey hands in a transfer request, all we are getting at the mo possibly is some youngster from Partick Thistle & some unknown striker from Uruguay. what a shambles of a club it's becoming.can it get any worse?

25 Aug 2015 23:56:19
Yes joleon lescotts return ahhhhhh

26 Aug 2015 00:02:44
yes, we could wear red

25 Aug 2015 21:32:58
Well I just popped over to the trophy buyers page and as I expected they are excited about the Stones situation naturally as he is going to be the future captain of England some day but it was not that that bugged me.It was comments like we are moaning saying he is leaving for money reasons, and that did we really expect Stones to stay at a club like ours and we are now actually worse fans than Liverpool fans blah blah blah we should be happy getting the money and then buy players and hope for a top ten finish Jesus I always had my suspicions they have no class just like there manager no class at all.But what's funny to me is we are still a bigger club than them with more league titles and when one day Mr Roman A walks away which he will they are screwed and my god how people will laugh but I guess it is true Chelsea have no history.

25 Aug 2015 22:04:32
Jose is a Snake always has been which is what he will be if he doesn't win the league this season Stef.

26 Aug 2015 00:50:15
That's all we have history an old stadium, tight budget and a training ground we rent, I'm around now were a club that's valued 1/6th of Chelsea and that's that, we'd love a Roman no one here cares that a blue supporters in charge only he dosnt have the money to compete so let's not be fickle and pretend we're big when we're far from it

25 Aug 2015 21:11:58
Let him go if he want to go no one big that the club and good luck john

25 Aug 2015 21:00:54
Celtic going out 2-0 down, so Van Djyk it is.

25 Aug 2015 21:20:55
You know we won't get him.

25 Aug 2015 21:23:03
Hope not he's having a mer.

25 Aug 2015 21:00:04
Small silver-lining, but I hope Browning gets a good run of games in the first team now.

26 Aug 2015 01:27:41
And not at left back

25 Aug 2015 20:49:05
so john wants to go, well let's play hard ball & not roll over.we either stand firm & say he is not for sale or we want 40 million plus terry as the window shuts in 6 days, take it or leave it.

25 Aug 2015 21:08:14
We need to move fast or we will be held to ransom, because we will be desperate. In respect to the inevitable, we need to be pragmatic; we made an astute investment which is going to fund team development. had he been found by villa or spurs then they would be getting a 30 mil cash injection. He wants to play at the top level and he is good enough.

25 Aug 2015 21:16:15
Please tell me that was a joke.

25 Aug 2015 20:33:00
I feel sorry for the younger supporters, at least I have watched Everton win the cup at Wembley twice and been at Goodison when we won the league. We can win the cup in the future but the league is beyond us unless something drastic happens.
As far as Stones is concerned I would play him tomorrow in the last five minutes so he is ineligible to play for Chelsea. Play him this weekend and only allow him to go at the last minute of the transfer window providing Chelsea pay us 40 million cash up front and Chelsea pay Barnsley their 15%. Otherwise he stays.

25 Aug 2015 22:08:28
Squeeze the bloody pips out of the Russian gangster me thinks!

25 Aug 2015 20:00:24
That number 5 shirt is cursed. Heard it in January with Eto'o. "He's not going. Definitely not. oh wait". If Stones does go please just don't give anyone else that squad number please.

25 Aug 2015 20:12:22
Give it to McGeady

{Ed025's Note - love it tommy..

25 Aug 2015 20:17:50
Give it to mcgeady

25 Aug 2015 19:54:41
Blimey Ed that hurt.surely the board should now be coming out and making a statement on this Stones saga, all our fans must be truly sickened by this, and not much time for quality replacements what do you think Ed GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - its a killer guernsey, we really need some faces in now to give the other lads a boost, and i dont mean other clubs rejects like evans and lennon but a bit of quality, if we dont what sort of message does that send out to the likes of ross, rom and macca?...the first rat has left, lets hope the rest dont follow down the gangplank mate..

25 Aug 2015 20:08:14
What makes me laugh is they keep saying us fans will be first to know well sky are saying he has handed in transfer request surely the board can have the decency to let us know what's going on, if this is true then something has changed in last few hours as he could of handed in request in last few weeks not leave it till 6 days to go

{Ed025's Note - transparency has never been one of this clubs strong points metz..

25 Aug 2015 20:09:25
Thanks for the reply Ed really good I agree with you completely cheers GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - no probs mate..

25 Aug 2015 19:37:31
Not a regular poster but a regular visitor. Think it's hypocritical to criticise Stones for being greedy and lacking loyalty. You seem to conveniently forget that you took him from Barnsley who brought him through the youth system. Do you think you would continue playing him in the first team "giving him his chance to play in the premier league football" if he wasn't good enough. it's easy to be loyal to a player when he is top class. Everton discard plenty of players if they don't think they make the grade. Did Everton pay him the same salary he was on at Barnsley? I don't think so.

25 Aug 2015 19:57:35
The thing is, he only signed a contract 12 months ago for 5 years. And not exactly on poor wages either. It's not so much about his greed, rather that he has attempted to force the club's hand with only 6 days to go until deadline day, which in my opinion is out of order. I also think that it is a silly decision anyway, as he is a guaranteed starter here for every game he is fit, our number 5. With the Euros coming up next year why would you go to Chelsea where there's a chance he may only get 20 odd games this season.

25 Aug 2015 18:57:16
Devastated, massive shock that, 6 days to go and he does that, I would love it if we rejected his request like the Baggies done to behrahino, smug Chelsea fans are loving this, tell them to do one RM

{Ed025's Note - i cant see it though degs..

25 Aug 2015 18:48:45
Here we go again we ave a top cb an wot do we do again sell him bin a blue 4 46 years starting to wounder if we will ever get back 2 were we belong top 4 we won't if we keep selling our best players rm buy a quality cb 2 replace stones good wiv that 1 we need a goal scoorer aswell bill you say your everton throu an throu prove it now buy 3 top top players give us wot we want top 4 again coyb

25 Aug 2015 19:37:04
Three top players won't get you 4th that's the sticking point

25 Aug 2015 19:39:02
Think bout it, I've been going since 67'. My hero Alan Ball was sold n didn't want to go, because money talks we doubled what we paid for him. I cried my eyes out, but the older you get you realise its normal. Utd £80 mil Ronaldo, Beckham how ever much he was, RS £49 mil Sterling.

25 Aug 2015 20:07:00
Howie you have said to stick him the reserves to paragraphs down then sort of back tracked saying your not surprised, either I cuddent care less whether he stays or not, he will go for what we say and we move on, same way football has worked for decades don't know why poeple are so shocked, o ye he done it with six dats to go, Felliani done it at 8pm deadline day

25 Aug 2015 18:41:41
Simple thing to do with Stones is to turn down his request as he's just signed a 4 yr deal at EFC, so then put him in the u-21 for a season. Otherwise take the money and gets some players in. He will have to suffer the Judas n Greedy Bstd jibes, but so what, he'll be a rich man doing what he wants so suffer the consequences.

25 Aug 2015 20:04:39
Can't afford to do that though mate.

25 Aug 2015 18:39:00
Get him out now Martinez don't start all this he is not for sale get this deal done he does not want to be here anymore can't waste time on this one not long left in the window put him in the reserves and we lose out big time I want players here that want to be here Baines and Coleman classic examples love the club and want to be here.

25 Aug 2015 17:37:05
Hey ed Chelsea need reporting for this. this is a disgrace the way there manager and captain have tapped Stones up, the FA should step in. Plastic club they are nothing without the Russian. I'm hoping John has a change of heart because Everton is a proper club one of the biggest in the world.

{Ed025's Note - im with you alan, but the fa love chelsea mate..

25 Aug 2015 19:46:41
Take your blue glasses off mate, nobody's getting done for tapping up, this is how footballs been for years, there club my not be steeped in history but there a far bigger global brand these days and yes maybe they are funded by a billionaire we have a couple of them on are board that don't do anything, we don't even own are training facilities for Christ sake get some perspective.

He was bought for a few mil about to be sold for 30+ to move to a club with better prospects for the future and for more money some fans need a reality check sometimes

25 Aug 2015 19:20:25
Imo we should do a Levy,tell Stones he's going k nowhere unless Chelsea come up with a 50 million pound bid end of.I mean if sideshow bob Luiz is worth 50 mill for being one of the worst centre backs in world football surely we hold all the cards here?

25 Aug 2015 19:00:19
Right then RM. what's your plan?Stones is going. we seem unable to do a straightforward transfer for ANY player and cannot get the players we target to sign for us and now we will be made to pay ovee the odds if we can find a suitable replacement for JS. so much for getting business done early. RM clearly cannot handle this job.

25 Aug 2015 18:33:30
From a united fan Evans plus 25 million for stones? Surley you'd rather sell to us then Chelsea the way they have acted?

25 Aug 2015 19:33:09
Mate I wouldn't pick Evans pudding or beef on the holler he's crap. I've got two dodgey knees, a whopper of a cockys,hut drink like a fish and smoke like a laboratory beagle and I am ten times the player Evans could ever be,so no thanks you can keep another one of your dead wood united keep mugging us over for.

{Ed025's Note - i could join your team jimmy, it sounds like i have all the attributes mate.. :)

25 Aug 2015 19:35:13
To be honest don't care who he joins I just think that it's a shame the big clubs have to pinch the best talent, sad really with all the money these clubs have yet can't produce or nurture there own players, no offence but utd are on the decline why you ask you threw your DNA out the window your aim is to finish top 4 again you are miles away from being champions again and big players going to other clubs now pedro to chelsea sorry but that would never of happened under fergie that's for sure, LVG is a big head that thinks he is the best and has for his philosophy well I don't think he knows what it is Everton won't win title for at least 3 or 4 years so get used to it

25 Aug 2015 19:42:59
evens is crap, and you know it, still with our board he will, one way or another, end up in a blue shirt, but you will still av to pay us 40m up frount.

25 Aug 2015 18:24:40
Does anyone else feel sick to their stomach?
No messing around now Everton, we need another centre half (van dijk preferably) and a top class number 10! Spend money already ffs, we've already got it nevermind another £30m+
Sort it out Everton!

25 Aug 2015 18:10:11
so what now? can't see stones playing for us again so with spurs on saturday we have jags and maybe a defender who has never played english football before, worrying times.

25 Aug 2015 18:06:53
John stones, just why leave it til now, with hardly any time left in the window, where's your gratitude for us giving you a platform. Tell Chelsea 50m not a penny less or stones stays in the reserves til his contracts up in 2019. Proper wound up Yorkshire blue

25 Aug 2015 17:47:20
just face the facts, everton are a selling club and always will be, once a blue always for you!!

25 Aug 2015 19:15:50
Every club apart from Chelsea, City, United and Arsenal are selling clubs mate. I'm gutted but unfortunately that's just how it is.

25 Aug 2015 17:36:46
Think this is now one of the biggest weeks in our clubs history. If we don't get some top quality signings and still sell Stones, don't think there is any way back for Kenwright and Martinez

25 Aug 2015 17:27:19
What a S@@t few days to be a everton fan, first getting caught up in the yarmelonko(sorry about spelling) fiasco. Now stones handing in a transfer request, I personally would like to wish him good luck in stalling his career on the bench. IMO anything less than 35 million is going to be a slap in the face, hopefully they might throw remy into the deal.

The timing isn't brilliant though, 7 days before the window closes. Teams are going to know we have got money to spend and going to jack the prices up of players.

So its going to be like shopping in a store that closes in 5 minutes, can see Lennon, Evans and going to take a punt on Austin at slightly elevated price. and then there is going to be the usual few random and hopefully high profile names coming in.

Got to smile haven't we, other wise we will go mad :)

25 Aug 2015 17:29:06
Van Dyke and 20mil to strengthen are attacking options I could cope with. Gutted stones is going, played great football on Sunday and he is destined for CL. Will Hughes hasn't been mentioned for a while (is he a poor man's Barkley)?

25 Aug 2015 18:38:42
Will Hughes was injured in Derby County's opening fixture and may well be out for six months after the resulting knee surgery. So, whatever you may think of him as a player - and not many other Premier League clubs seemed to be really seriously after him - any transfer is unlikely until next year I'd imagine.

25 Aug 2015 18:54:53
Think Hughes is out with a ligament injury

25 Aug 2015 17:54:30
I see the comment over and over again, stating that Evertion shows no ambition selling JS. Did anyone accuse the Reds of having no ambition when they sold Suarez and Sterling for tidy profits? RM has known about this for weeks. He has targets in mind. 30 million can improve the team. Not if the management just a pockets the sum, we have a problem. I wish JS well.

25 Aug 2015 18:35:34
Have the RedS sold Sturridge?

25 Aug 2015 17:09:01
Jonh stones is a fine player, but, keeping someone who's not committed to the club, is not good policy, 40m and he can go, but still leaves the question, had he flopped, he would still have expected everton to honour his 5 year, 30,000 per week contract!

{Ed025's Note - thats a fair point JCW..

25 Aug 2015 17:31:02
Hopefully it will bring other clubs to the table and we can push for the highest bidder!

25 Aug 2015 17:46:12
Oh of course he would, personally I think if a player is crap a club should be able to get rid with minimal compensation, because what happens in the real world if you're crap at your job, you get fired. Why should football be any different.

25 Aug 2015 17:07:10
I actually feel really sorry for Martinez, he now has 6 days to get a good enough replacement. Funny thing is Stones' first game will be against us, let's hope Lukaku absolutely terrorises him. Oh wait it won't because he will be on the bench, for about 18 months. Have to admit I am absolutely gutted, 6 days, 6 bloody days JS has given us, wonderful.

25 Aug 2015 17:44:02
Lost all respect for the lad now could of done it earlier as he knew Chelski were interested months ago! Hopefully United will join the bandwagon and let the price war begin.

25 Aug 2015 17:56:24
I we can't get anybody in to replace him I wouldn't let him leave swan do it when it suits us! Not stones his agent or Chelsea

25 Aug 2015 16:55:58
If I was martinez I'd come out and say yes he wants to leave 50mil no less take it or leave it! Gutted!

25 Aug 2015 17:52:08
spot on true we still hold all the cards here stay strong everton let him leave on cheap it shows we are weak could see others do same in future

25 Aug 2015 16:52:09
If stones has handed in request. Tell Chelsea £50 mill, tell stones he is under contract. Unless they meet the money we say tough on them. Or we sell quick and knowing us it will be cheap and use money

25 Aug 2015 16:41:20
Let the fume commence. I honestly think he has just made the biggest mistake of his life, too soon for him, ah well, sell him for 40m or keep him, sign 2 Centre Backs and stick him in the reserves for a year. With a couple of days to go, nearly Arteta-Esque, unforgivable, he deserves everything he gets for this. Sorry John I loved you but you have just ruined any 'professional' and 'nice guy' reputation you have. 6 days left, SIX DAYS LEFT. Incredible, I'm not going to blame the board or Martinez. if Lescott gets booed for giving us all Summer to replace him, John Stones deserves any and all abuse he gets.

25 Aug 2015 17:09:32
I blame the board they knew this was going to happen ,same with Rooney,lescott,Arteta ,Fellaini don't tell me they didn't know .
Leaves us six days we will end up with donkey Evans and a Argentinian defender ,when was last time there was a good defender from Argentina?
pathetic!

25 Aug 2015 17:59:03
how can you blame club we made it clear he not for sale no control over stones handing in request

25 Aug 2015 18:28:03
Samuel, Coloccini, Otamendi, Rojo, Zabaleta. Stop talking rubbish!

25 Aug 2015 18:31:25
It's a Piss take for use lot tbh.

This should of been sorted weeks ago but maybe there would be mote expectancy for the money to be reinvested. Watch this take until the end of the week and use up with a loan player or a 5 mil player.

The sooner Merseyside rules the league again the better.

Holgate does look good though btw

25 Aug 2015 16:29:02
Well don't I look absolutely stupid now, cannot have an unhappy player at the club.

25 Aug 2015 16:41:57
Makes my blood boil. Well done Terry Cahill shearer Murphy Jose you all had a part in robbing us of our player.

So Chelsea. You may now start the bidding at £40 million. And as for you Jon. Well if you're not in the England squad end of season then unlucky.

25 Aug 2015 16:44:47
Well let's get 40 mill quick for him and reinvest it bye bye Stonesy and good luck

{Ed025's Note - good luck stef?....in the theatre they say..break a leg.. :)

25 Aug 2015 17:01:56
We all look stupid now but not as stupid as Martinez and Everton Football Club. This has probably only been released today as we have no home game for a few weeks. This could trigger a backlash on the board if the fans don't blame Stones.

25 Aug 2015 17:10:11
Joe, the thing is mate, the club are not the one's who have announced it. Stones had to wait 6 days, if he wants to leave then fair enough but making it public with 6 days to go? He has brought it upon himself.

25 Aug 2015 17:48:39
Swan there have been chinese whispers that Stones handed in a transfer request 2-3 weeks ago. Martinez was mumbling and stuttering when asked about it last week (obvious now he was lying). We will probably never know the truth of when he asked to leave. I'm as gutted as you as I posted last night he's going nowhere. We need 2-3 marquee signings to appease the fans now. And your right 6days is a disgrace no matter if it is Stones, the board or both their faults.

25 Aug 2015 17:24:15
Exactly ed but the lad is young and had his head turned by Mourino and the media and no doubt his agent we are running out of time he should of done this last week not on the eve of a game and 6 days left in the transfer market tell Chelsea we want the money by the morning or he is staying and then if they cough up go on a spending spree.

25 Aug 2015 14:49:09
This summer we have seen the worst campaign to sell a player in the history of football. Pundits, commentators and everyone in between have been trying to sell Stones to Chelsea ever so desperately. Everyone telling him he should move, obviously this is because Chelsea are one of those clubs that Sky and all that love, no bias eh? I will keep this short.

It's ridiculous and everyone involved from journalists, panelists, pundits, commentators and even Chelsea's disgusting manager and captain have tried selling Stones. It is beyond a disgrace, it has been obvious from the get go that Stones was not leaving, hell, HE SAID IT HIMSELF. Yet these persons have tried everything from trying to unsettle him to mentioning him WHENEVER POSSIBLE. How can a Champions League match between Celtic and Malmo get into a full on discussion about Stones and telling him to leave. Shearer, Murphy, Redknapp, Mourinho, Terry, Cahill, Thompson (don't even get me started on this big nose plonker), Martin Samuel, Dominic King, The Daily Mail, The Mirror, The Express, The telegraph, The other one that shall not be named, Alan Smith, MOTD commentators, The Star and all these are just a few examples of the people doing EVERYTHING they can to get him to go. It is not happening. GET OVER IT. Mourinho saying their is a campaign against Chelsea from official's was said with no proof at all. With this? Well, we have TONS of proof. I'm not talking about all the other players they tried to make leave like Coleman, Baines, McCarthy, Barkley, Lukaku and Mirallas. I mean JUST Stones. I have never seen anything like it in my life. Has anyone else seen such a clear goal from so many people associated with Football to try and get a player to leave a club?.

It's embarrassing for everyone involved because it is very obvious he doesn't want to leave nor are we selling him.

Sorry for the rant but the DM just printed 4 articles in the last 3 hours with Stones as the cover of each again trying to sell him and it made me reach breaking point.

Again, apologies from the rant it's just the whole saga has been a joke from the very start.

25 Aug 2015 15:21:51
I seem to remember the Rooney debacle was on a par with this. The whole of the English speaking world was selling him to Everton for us.

25 Aug 2015 15:49:49
I'm surprised Jeremy Kyle hasn't had an hour special on the subject,he's the only one who hasn't put their oar in.You forget to mention Karen Brady,when has any one from our board commented on what happens at West Ham

25 Aug 2015 15:00:21
Have to agree whole heartedly Swan. and don't forget that idiot Merson who said Stones would learn from Terry.I think he learns very well from the present England Centre half Jags. Terry might show him how to screw team mates wivesthat is about all
Wellzee

25 Aug 2015 15:13:52
That's Chelsea for u embarrassing!

25 Aug 2015 12:00:40
Its coming soon Ed, 38 million bid for Stones, I can see it in my tea leaves

on a lighter note Blues, how did Liverpool manage to offload Super Mario, they must be paying £99 grand and Milan are paying the other grand

Also Neymar to Utd, ha ha ha ha, so funny that, some of them actually think its going to happen, they are pressing the Ed's for more info, honestly unbelievable, he is obviously pushing for a new contract i.e. Ramos

Anyway Blues keep it together, just under a week to go

25 Aug 2015 11:15:50
Aston villa in for Ljajic can't see why we are not going for him seen as yarmelanko and the other 50 number 10's we have been linked with have no sign of coming off I think this would be a great signing imo whT you think eds any chance of us joining the race

25 Aug 2015 10:07:26
Wow look at the players we are being linked with this week gone a bit down hill from last week all players that are not going to make us better or put any pressure on the 11 that's started the last 2 game and after the next 2 prem games things might start to look a bit bad for us but as the great Spanish bob says be positive things are looking good.

25 Aug 2015 11:13:58
worrying thing is with all the 'rumoured' players we are after apparently going tits up, is it going to be the last ditch panic to secure a couple of loans by deadline day to try and bring anyone in!
What must Lennon be thinking as we have had so much time to tie his deal up or is he a last ditch signing as well if no one else can be bought?

25 Aug 2015 09:07:22
So we're now after a player named Bernard eh?

With our luck we'll end up signing Nursie from Blackadder.

25 Aug 2015 09:48:38
can she play left back?

25 Aug 2015 11:26:49
Reckon it's Mike Bernard, plays full back but right, not left -though would certainly add weight to the defence lol. Older Blues will know what I'm on about.

25 Aug 2015 04:36:25
You just never know with Everton whether all these links are just rubbish to make us think we're going somewhere or if the likes of Yarmolenko are genuine targets. Other teams get their deals done quickly under the radar, the fact that ours are so public and drawn out makes me think the board are just pulling the wool over our eyes and faking ambition. Hope I'm wrong but this has been a re-occurring situation for 10 years. Joao Moutinho is a prime example