Everton Banter Archive July 25 2012

25 Jul 2012 19:54:19
think its about about time them lazy rich board members get there wallets out cuz this gr8 club isn,t that far away from the top 4... moyes has done a fantastic job for us and those of u that still give the guy s*** ... GROW UP ..we av one of the best youth sides in the premiership and we av rich pickings from there without the transfers. take a good look and u will realise how good our youth are and we aren,t to far away from a trophy or 2 i,d like a rich billionaire to take us over and give moyes a big transfer chest.. of course i wud..... bk isn,t that bad of an owner if u look at portsmouth or rangers altho he cud open the wallet up just that little bit more .

Mate if all the owners could give 5-7 million each we wud have money to spend its not that much when rob earl can have 1 b kenrwight has 70-75 ithink and another who is rich idont remember his/her name and we can have atleast 20 million to spend


PakistaniBlue

25 Jul 2012 18:58:02
Yobo agent saying deal still on ,....nothing has changed ,thank god,....just a day in the life of a evertonion,...nothing is straightforward drama,drama,drama,.....we love it. Though,.......tristen

What's an Evert Onion? {Ed025's Note - they make you cry more than spanish ones!!..

Lol ,ed

Apparently they go quite well with a nice Felli Mignon... ahhh sorry lads, but I do love a good pun! Haha

Murf

They taste a bit bitter to me ed. Joking.

Mike

25 Jul 2012 18:15:20
Fair enough Timmy is moving on but I get pissed off at those that say Timmy Cahill should be sold and so on.. He has been loyal to the club for 8yrs, played hurt a lot, yeah finally caught up with him the last 18mths but where would the club have been without him and his huge heart and will to win? He bleeds Blue and this is the reaction by so called toffee's? Ya all starting to sound like the red s#^*e to us Aussies who follow the club..

Read all the posts mate we all love tim cahill lad, if you see 1 or 2 that say what you have said then say then just ignore them mate you cant please everyone. Tim is a blue for life and gave 100% everygame he will be missed so much and is a legend and top man. Terry blue

Yeh have a read of the posts before you go slating us genuine supporters fella, timmy is a legend

Degsybluenose {Ed025's Note - yes he is..

Go ed degz,..you put I'm in his place m8

Timmy was good for me cos my mrs fancies him so I get a bit of peace when watching the footy. Oh yeah pretty good in the air too

COYB

Toffee ace

25 Jul 2012 17:48:49
Hey Ed what does the Spurs Ed think about the Pienaar Deal, has he heard anything?

QatariBlue {Ed025's Note - i have not spoken to him about it mate..

25 Jul 2012 17:28:17
Just a thought Ed,
why not try this, if any poster Does not leave their name Don't post what they have to say, and that might filter out all the RS and others that are trying to wind us Blues up

y0rksh1re_blue {Ed025's Note - if i had my way i would yorkie..but at the moment, its not the sites policy...it would make it a lot easier for me mate.

There are some sensitive souls on this site. So some Liverpool fans and others post here. So what. Either ignore them or grow a backbone.

Mike

It's not really a great idea. RS supporters will just leave a name if that's what it takes. It's no exactly difficult to think one up.

The Stud :-) {Ed025's Note - if you had to register to use the site, and declare your team....it would..

25 Jul 2012 15:48:19
John Heitinga seems to be the topic of discussion in the media of late, with a move to Fenerbache mooted this week.

However, the Dutch defender has two years left on his contract at Everton – having signed a five year deal in 2009 – and said earlier this month that he has no intentions of leaving Goodison Park.

While acting as co-commentator on EvertonTV for the game at Dundee United, Heitinga insisted “I’m going nowhere.”

A £5m move to the Turkish club is dominating headlines across the web, but when less than a week ago the player himself was declaring his love of Everton, it’s hard to see it coming to fruition, especially when the same club won’t pay £4m for Joseph Yobo.

Heitinga added, “It’s a real family club and I love it here.”

toffeeblue {Ed025's Note - i really want johnny to stay mate...and we should not deal with fenerbahce, after them screwing with us over yobo.

Guarantee heitinga will stay the 2 years, run his contract down and go a free. ? Would it be better to cash in on him now and save on his salary.? Think that would be my preference.

Nick O

Me too ed, i was thinking the same thing, the cheek to even ask about jonny after the jobo feasco lol

25 Jul 2012 15:19:24
Not a rumour but anyone else seen the young evertonian on ssn who's going to see the first olympic fottball game. His mums a r/s and the reporter asks him why everton, his reply "cuz I'm not manufactured and I'm born to be a blue". CLASS!!

I did mate, cheered me up.

The reporter should be asking his mum why the RS? !!

COYB

Toffee ace

How old was the lad ? as that seems scripted to me.

Got a link please, want to see it

25 Jul 2012 14:04:18
I think the reason people are being negative is there is never any info from efc, if baines is not leaving say so, if he is then we,ll deal with it if we have no money tell us, but all we ever hear is rumours, mostly about us losing players not signing any. Everton could stop a lot of this by just being honest, whoever leaves it will be sad but we'll get on with it its what evertonians do but at least tell us! {Ed025's Note - i agree..

25 Jul 2012 11:34:56
Have it on good authority that the pienaar deal is off, we won't meet there £6 million valuation which QPR are quite happy to do, we also have not been able to agree personal terms, we were hoping to get him for around £3 and a half million and on a 2 year deal they want the £6 million and he wants to be guaranteed highest earner on a 3 year deal So it looks likely a deal with QPR is going to happen, hope moyes has a decent player in mind to come in if he can't get pienaar, wouldn't mind the south Korean lad from Bolton or McLean from Sunderland both can play left midfield and both of decent ability, the south Korean showed a lot of promise obviously in an ideal world bill would stump up 6 million and get pienaar in? Anyone know who could come in and be decent for us realistically? Please no one say holtby! Not realistic in any world, you heard anything ed?

scoober C {Ed025's Note - no mate..

I take it then that you are one of the Board Members of Everton Football Club ! Seeing as "You have this information On Good Authority". Either that or Bill Kenwright lets you know about everything He intends doing......before anyone else ?

25 Jul 2012 14:01:43
Before we all start panicking lets see where we are at at the end of the window! The way I see it we have gotten rid of two players and brought in one. I still think Peanut will come but if he doesn't Moyes will have a plan b. He always does. As for Johnny, I think he'll probably go and I'm not sure I'm happy with this or not. On the one hand he had a good season last year but there's no half measures with him he's either very good or very bad. No Matter what happens I'm still confident of a very good season!

Bluestu1878

I agree we should remain optimistic. In the circumstances, I think it was time for Tim Cahill to move on - for him and us. We must, however, off-load Yobo, almost at any price - we can't afford to keep him on the wage bill.

Johnny Heitinga is an interesting one. On balance, I would let him go if we get a good offer, but I think £5m is too cheap for a current, experienced Dutch international - somewhere nearer £8m needed. To put it in perspective, Liverpool are reported to be paying £15m for Joe Allen from Swansea - who is he? Ok, it's Liverpool, but even so, I think it suggests that Heitinga at £5m is a steal.

25 Jul 2012 13:46:11
Why is it our players are always under valued(in the press) ?
Baines £8m
Heitinga £5m
Yobo £2m
Cahill £1m
Arteta £1m
Piennar £2.5
Yakubu £1.5m

Where as rs players valuation like ngog £4.5m, babel £5.8,voronin (lol) £1.8m, Konchesky £1.5m, skrtel valuation was something daft like £20m

Robbie

When was arteta ever valued at one million?

Sorry arteta was meant to say £10m before anyone tries to correct me.

25 Jul 2012 13:33:42
got this from the sunderland site on a post about pienaar. annoyed me so much i thought i had to post it on here:

"If he has any ambition then he will sign for sunderland over everton, they have no money, players leaving like cahill, and possibly baines and heitenga, theyre a relegation club in the making"

I can't believe they seriously think this

And what do Sunderland have?? The reputation of being our whipping boys. Looking forward to our usual 6 points from them next season.

COYB

Toffee ace

I went on and read that post!, Lot of sunderland supporters came to aid, by singing are praises!..some really positive remarks... jmff

25 Jul 2012 13:25:12
Some serious restructuring taking place. Kenwright would be doing everything possible to re-sign Moyes, and Moyes taking the opportunity to secure future financial commitment before he commits. While the commentary is all about banks recalling debt, the more likely scenario is that to secure long term player investment, the wage structure had to be overhauled.

In the past 12 months, Yakubu, Bily, Arteta & Saha have been moved out due to their super high wages vs their performances. Even Arteta who was a great player for Everton in his time, was earning much more than he was delivering back, and in the end (like Pienaar) requested to move. Cahill was destined for a bit-part role this year, and on serious wages was the right decision to move him on, Yobo the obvious other issue.

Distin, Neville, Hibbert & Osman are ageing but still useful. But essentially there is no point having Duffy, Barkley, Vellios, Gueye & Junior who can add serious value vs their weekly wage if we have OK players taking up spaces on big wages.

While we seem like we are a selling club, I still think that we have reached a cycle where players were over-valued in their wages (based on their most recent form), and we needed to move them on to generate space & value from our lower paid squad members, which is a good decision.

Everyone is getting impatient, but investment cannot be committed to based on intent, cheques need to clear before the finance controllers will allow new investment (contracts to be signed).

Pienaar, Phillips & a loan striker in. Donovan & Cahill back on loan in Jan. Still think we should all be positive.

Good post!......jmff

25 Jul 2012 13:18:38
Let me tell you all how it is:

1) Baines isn't going.
2) Heitinga isn't going.
3) Just because the lads from the rags say that half our squad is leaving the club DOES NOT mean that they are leaving the club.
4) If Pienaar is to move to another club from Spurs, it will be us, why oh why do people think he'd go to another prem club like QPR or sunderland, especially when they are smaller clubs.
5) Yes we don't have lots of transfer funds, but our club is well run, so you're stupid if you think we're going to become pompey or rangers or something. It's probably the other board members fault who won't put any money into our transfer pot.
6) Stop posting saying "Kenwrong out" or "Moyes out". You're stupid as well if you think that'd do any good, any one else in their positions and we'd be screwed.
7) Stop posting such negative things, most of the people of this site speak as though every rumour they hear is fact.


Big rant I know, but stay postive, transfer will come, big names won't leave and we will beat the mancs on monday the 20th of august!!

MickTheBrickWhoHasARatherLarge...

MickTheBrickWhoHasARatherLarge.... A$$ ? Cause you're talking out of it !

You don't "know" any of this, just guessing like everyone else.

Guess what, its a RUMOURS site, people can post what they like AND have differing opinions to you and each other.

I wish ppl would stop telling people what they can and can't say! Its a public forum!

Absolutely agree Mick, the negativity on this site is unreal! We need to positive!

ToffeeTony {Ed025's Note - i second that tony..

To quote an Everton song:

"We've got the best supporters from any football ground, as long as they're behind us, we'll never let them down"

So lads, get behind Everton and stop being so negative

Dave {Ed025's Note - love it dave..

The to the first comment, the difference between my post and other people's is that I'm being POSITIVE. I'm not coming on here to post the crap that the rags spew out everyday and in turn bringing people down, I'm posting POSITIVE things because that's what we should do. Why? Read Dave's post, which btw Dave, was great!

And why, can I ask, are you having a go at me for being positive? Do you want half the squad to be sold? It sure sounds like it.

Ed, what happened to this site, it used to be a lot better and a lot more banterous, now its Pienaar not coming after Baines leaving after Heitinga leaving.

MickTheBrick (should I keep WhoHasARatherLarge...?) {Ed025's Note - i was thinking the same mick!...a week ago, all the posts were upbeat, but now, people are hearing rumours, and paper talk and are slagging off the club...they need to get a grip!..

I think we need Degsy and Tristen back Ed! The sites in chaos without them!!

MickTheBrick (WhoHasARatherLarge...)

25 Jul 2012 13:05:08
The cheek of fenerbeache ay! Try to bump us for yobo and now heitinga for 5 mil! Do one turks

Bundle Yobo in with the Heitinga deal. 7Mn both or just go back to 2Mn for Yobo.

Would rather Yobo off the wage bill and risk losing Johnny for a reduced fee in January. At least we will get 18 games from him in the meantime. If we sell Johnny and keep cant get rid of Yobo, then we get stung with close to 3 Mn in wages for the year without getting a game from him.

25 Jul 2012 12:22:39
any one know when david moyes contract is up as he must be getting sick of of this once great club sellling and giving away youngsters ie wallace and baxter etc and having weir sign playing registration .being linked with every poss freebie and every player we try to sign is like drawing teeth everything is a long saga whether its a takeover a new stadium buying or selling a player freebies or new kit or a pre season tour.next saga moyes contract .and I dont even want to think about whats going on behind the scenes at my beloved blues..we are a club that turned john ruddy away and brought in mucha .all these comments are just my opinion and im a nobody just a fan.last one out please turned the lights out tp

25 Jul 2012 12:17:41
why has our tour been cancelled because all the players were at the airport ready to leave anyone no why? {Ed001's Note - it was an issue with promises that were made to the club, they came to light when one of the proposed opponents dropped out.}

Now they know how we feel being let down all the time

25 Jul 2012 12:12:57
Ed do you think Johnny will leave? {Ed001's Note - it is very possible, last year of contract, holding off signing a new one, a number of clubs showing interest. It does seem likely, shame because I like him, I think his career would be best served staying at Everton myself. It must be said though, this is a chance for Rodwell to show what he can do in the position I personally think is his best. It might be best for Everton to get the money, put it towards Pienaar and drop Rodwell into the defence.}

I know it's been said Rodwell may turn out as a centre half but I still think he should be a midfielder I would not say he is a good tackler he reads the game well but I see him as a holding player just in front of back 4

25 Jul 2012 10:51:02
Now that Cahill is leaving does this mean Donovon is more likely?

Probably not a Cahill is going to a different club as they play in different positions

25 Jul 2012 10:29:13
just wondering if anyone knows about bjorn bergmann sigurdarson last i heard he was joining wolves, fee agreed and he was coming over to agree terms and undergo a medical! but since then i've heard nothing. we were linked and i thought this kid looks a decent talent and was'nt to expensive either so if he not going there anymore maybe we should pull our finger out

toffee 4 {Ed001's Note - hasn't he signed for them and made his debut in a friendly?}

.. believe he's signed for Spurs?

That was gylfi sigurdson. im talkin bout kid from lillestrom sk! have checked ed but cant find anything about it

toffee 4 {Ed025's Note - hes at spurs..

I know gylfi is at spurs im on bout bjorn bergmann sigurdarson

toffee 4 {Ed025's Note - i think he went to wolves mate..

25 Jul 2012 09:41:43
A more positive post for my fellow blues.........
Jags- staying
Distin-staying
Rodwell-staying
Felli-staying
Howard-staying
Junior-staying
Jelavic-staying
Baines-staying
Barkley-staying
Naismith-staying
Gibson-staying
Velios-staying
Gueye-staying
Duffy-staying
and as for Jonny, one report from a lazy Daily Fail journo and you all panic. The report is nonsense, we won't be selling him to anyone let alone Fenerbache and as for the Cameron link thats about 3yrs old. Have faith my fellow blues IMIT

EFCwhitesocks COYB

(p.s. there are even more who are staying)

I agree with all of them, except for Baines and Fellaini, who will probably leave.

25 Jul 2012 08:12:35
£5million for Heitinga is half of what he is currently worth. He was player of the season and has played in the world cup final - he was terrible in the Euros though.
I think Moyes is getting rid of his top earners, Arteta, Cahill, Heitinga and Yobo. It could be good business as long as he replaces them or maybe he has one marquee signing in mind.

Blues starting to get edgy during a transfer window, nothing new there.

BTW has Naismith youth completed his transfer yet?

Nostrawigus

1) Heitinga isn't going
2) Naismith completed his transfer weeks ago, thats why he's an everton player
3) He's not really youth, he's 25

25 Jul 2012 07:13:09
I don't know anything but normally when a company is about to be taken over they make a lot of staff redundant so that the new owners can start with a clean slate.

Perhaps we're losing so many players because a takeover is on the horizon and so the new owners arent stuck with a huge wage bill and load of players they don't want... Just a thought?

Or because were skint?

25 Jul 2012 02:40:12
Heitinga for 5 Mil? Gotta be having a laugh, paper talk is always reliable for a laugh, if he goes, then shock of the summer in my opinion, quality player, loves Everton, plus Distin getting on, he's staying.

BlueCon

Disagree. My take is that one good season is not enough. He says things in the press which can be negative or sometimes positive. He gives me the impression that he is not really a loyal servant like Cahill,Osmam,Hibbert; he justs wants to be thought as one - which is why he likes to give quotes to the media.
Just remember when he was trying to push for a move 2 years ago, hoping a bigger club would come looking for him.
My guess is that he is not one of the most popular characters at the club and that Moyes,an astute judge of character' has to ensure that above all - we maintain a special bond in the dressing room. He knows that when the going gets tough, weak characters impact negatively on that comraderie and prefer to look after themselves rather than the club.

Nick O

Well then Nick, you're an person

BlueCon

25 Jul 2012 00:57:12
What is going on at everton. Fair enough tim going. But still no pienar deal done. Honestly think the pienar deal will end up a no go er. Now looks like johnny going. Do they think at everton they can pull the wool over our eyes yet again. Well not anymore. We're all used to it know. Looks like we're in a right mess. It's a disgrace. Mad John

It doesn't look like johnny's going! a couple of the rags claimed he is, that DOES NOT mean that he's leaving!!

25 Jul 2012 00:34:03
fenerbahce looking to give johnny heitinga a pay-rise from 55,000 a week.. looks like hes going..

Not it doesn't look like he's going!

25 Jul 2012 00:09:05
Ed do you think this pienarr deal will go through {Ed001's Note - yes.}