Everton Banter Archive May 25 2013

25 May 2013 22:40:02
I have just emailed the following to the club using my real name.
"Hello,
I have supported Everton man and boy through thick and thin for fifty years. I have remained loyal to the club whatever the disappointments, but the new badge is an absolute disgrace.
It's no wonder that "nil satis, nisi optimum" is missing from the new badge, as anything but the best seems to apply to the new design.
Any thoughts I might have had about buying a new replica shirt - or new entire replica kits for the youngsters in my family - have been completely destroyed by the fact that it would have this abomination of a new badge.
Judging by the overwhelming negative response on social media, I'm not alone.
My attitude remains "once a blue, always a blue" as far as supporting the team on the field, but I'll never buy any item with the new badge on it.
We are a proper football club with a proud heritage and devoted fans. In my opinion, the new badge is contemptuous of that heritage and devotion. As the "people's club", please listen to the people - not to some contrived unrepresentative marketing focus group that you might have used to approve this change to the badge.
No matter what rationalisation, explanation, justification, or whatever that you might dole out as the club's official line, the negative reaction of so many fans is a clear indication of a massive foul-up by the club in this matter.
I have used my real name and not used abusive/bad language so that you appreciate that I am sincere.
Respectfully,
My real name"

How does it read, my fellow posters? {Ed007's Note - Sid I am actually talking to Steve EFC on Twatter just now about the badge. I don't know if you guy know but he is a very talented artist/designer, he has designed a strip and badge (probably for college work), I'm sure he wouldn't mind me linking it up here, I'm not an Everton fan but I do think he has made a cracking job of it, what do you guys think?

http://tinyurl.com/qaad5q6

That badge that has been designed by ed's mate is well better.
I read online though on evertons website they said the reason they changed it was because it was difficult to replicate the badge on certain media things, due to the text and small detail. seems a bit of a blag like, but even so, I think they would say the same about that badge that ed's mate designed.
good badge though, I like it.
i don't mind our new one, bit dissappointed nil satis has gone though.
Molly888

Badge looks spot on! That's more like it. well don Steven efc. Jlaff

I fu**ing love that Ed. Period. {Ed007's Note - It just shows you what fans can really do, if only clubs took notice Keith.}

Proper badge, i'd buy that. RW

Got to agree with everyone - that is one classy design. Every credit to the designer.

26 May 2013 11:52:39
Love the badge think its better than this seasons wish we had people like him designing our stuff

25 May 2013 22:26:29
Found some 'fans' on the official EFC site who the club claims to have consulted with about the crest. Jeez, they all look like they've been let out for the day! FFS! BlueTone

25 May 2013 22:19:42
If you agree with me that the official new badge is an absolute embarrassing joke, then please sign this petition.

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/everton-football-club-keep-the-wreaths-and-motto-of-everton-football-club-don-t-change-the-badge

Maybe the club might listen to the bloody fans if enough people sign/

I agree the new badge is a retrospective move, is totally unnecessary and robs us of our heritage.
The club should be concentrating on securing Vitor Perierra as our manager and not pampering to Nike or some wanton PR guru.
Nil satis nisi optimum - a motto that we should live by and NEVER forget.

I don't know how long this petition has been live for but it already has nearly 8000 signatures.

To the board, stand up and take notice of the paying fans

25 May 2013 22:08:26
is the clubs motto still going to be, NSNO?

25 May 2013 22:02:58
Cannot stand the new badge, will defensively not be buying a shirt this season. They have been designing this since last August. Looks ridiculous!

What do u all think?

25 May 2013 21:26:58
Ed I've tried to post a link to a petition re the new badge twice. Not my petition by the way, could you tell me why it's not been posted. The more people who 'sign' it the better, in the hope that the muppets who allowed it may be forced to think again. Cheers {Ed025's Note - i have not seen it mate...i will certainly post it..

I think you will find nike have already put it on everything, don't see it being changed this year!

Has it not come through again? Strange that. Just google the words petition Everton badge and it should be on the top. Changes. org. I urge everyone to please get on it, I can't see this piece of cheap garbage on the front of my beloved Blues merchandise.

Discusting badge hate it Thomas Paul

25 May 2013 22:01:26
6791 with my signature, get on it Blues, don't forget to state "no more money off me until it is changed back" on the form on the right of the page

Degsy

Thanks Ed, I feel very strongly about this as do most I would imagine. The most hurtful and insulting thing is that they claim to have consulted fans yet I've not met one supporter who's heard anything. They're quick enough to email people about sales on merchandise, tickets etc yet nothing about this disgraceful badge. Surely they'd have to take note with the amount of people who sign it? {Ed025's Note - lets hope so mate..

The google search works I've just signed up. I urge everyone on here who does not like the badge to do the same.

I've signed up. BlueTone

25 May 2013 20:45:22
team 2013/4

manager - harry redknap/vitor perrira

gk-howard
rb-coleman
cb-jagielka
cb-distin
lb-baines
rm-mirallas
cm-gibson
cm-fer
lm-pienaar
cam-honda
st-soldado

25 May 2013 20:27:03
The new badge is awful! It looks like something from a comic, does not reflect the history of our club and everything we stand for! I would like to think that it is the start of a new era in which we can start bringing home the trophies and becoming more successful. I'm excited about the prospect of a new manager and I'm pretty hopeful of retaining our players, one thing is certain, if we keep Fellaini and Baines then they must have had some pretty decent assurances about our future! COYB

MikeBlue

25 May 2013 19:40:08
This forum is suffering from premature speculation.
Lots of those posting rumours too soon are claiming it's never happened to them before. Yeah - right.
But it's completely understandable given the emotional distress of the end of a 11-year relationship.
Finding someone new is always difficult and it will take a time for things to get back to normal - but once things are bedded in, it'll all come together.
Everybody - just keep your peckers up and let the club rise to the occasion.
;-) {Ed025's Note - great post that jonesy...really cheered me up that mate...cheers..

The only thing that will cheer me up is when we've got a new manager-providing he's a good appointment

Whoosh - the OP seems to have gone over the head of the first reply's poster.

Hardly just stating an opinion and its not gone "over my head"

25 May 2013 19:04:28
I am usually supportive and loyal to the club, but I am disgusted by the decision to change the badge. Whoever chose the cheap and nasty new design has done a massive disservice IMHO to the the tradition of our great club. I can only imagine it's less expensive to produce and threfore increases the profit margin on replica shirts - not that our club seems capable of generating acceptable commercial income anyway! I dread to think what we'd end up with if the naming rights for Goodison Park (hopefully modernised in situ or a new location elsewhere in he city, but I'm not holding my breath on that) were up for offer. If the same clowns who redesigned the badge were also responsible for the naming rights, I fear we'd be watching football in something like "The Dyno Rod Arena", which would soon be nicknamed "The Stadium of Sh*te".
Even though we have no money and we haven't won a major trophy for nearly two decades, we are a proper football club with a proud heritage and devoted fans, but this new badge treats that heritage and those fans with complete and utter contempt IMHO.
Am I a solitary voice in his matter?
Once a blue, always a blue! {Ed025's Note - your not mate..im with you..

25 May 2013 19:37:33
Not on your own mate, They have just lost out on 3 replica kits and will not buy another until Nil Satis Nisi Optimum is back on the badge

Majority rules and we will see how long it takes if we all stick together

Are ye with me Blues

Degsy {Ed025's Note - im in degsy..

Sorry - forgot to login before I submitted the OP.

Words fail me. nothing more to say about the badge. jlaff {Ed025's Note - words dont fail me jlaff...OI..EVERTON!...GET THAT SHIT BADGE OFF OUR SHIRTS, AND GET NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM BACK ON!!!...I urge all supporters to e-mail the club, and boycott this disgrace of a badge, until the powers that be change it!!

Nil satis nisi optimum, means nothing but the best is good enough, and that badge just ain't good enough {Ed025's Note - here here jimmy..

Just thought blues, do you know what this reminds me of, when the government sneaks things in behind a bigger story so that it gets no attention, they sneak a badge in when we are all in new manager mode, well i'm not havin it

Ed can you guys do a page for a petition which states we will not buy a shirt until at least our motto is returned on the badge, we can then email EFC to show them what it will cost in sales

Money talks

Degsy {Ed025's Note - im not sure how to go about it degsy mate..im a bit of a duffer when it comes to IT..

Ed 25 absolutely spot on!!

Everyones going on about tradition, we had the badge for just over 20 years! that's not tradition! we had efc as our badge for longer! should that not be tradition? maybe we should go back to that! I think nike have had some say on this, everyone who gets there kits seems to simplify there badge, arsenal, Manchester United etc

Ed 25 I have drafted the following message and prepd my email for 10 pm:

As a life time blue I am contacting the club to register my complete dissatisfaction and embarrassment of the new badge. This badge does not reflect the high standards and tradition of my everton. I will cease all procurement of everton merchandise until the old badge has been re-instated. Please revert to the old badge.

Kind regards

I urge all readers to do the same at 10 pm. {Ed025's Note - im in mate..nice one fella..

26 May 2013 00:24:39
Ed 25 jlaff here going to do exactly as you said. Address is everton@evertonfc. com. I propose we all email tonight and overload their system at the same time. they will get the message. I propose 10 pm mailing time for everyone. are we agreed an in? Jlaff

26 May 2013 00:28:29
Ed love the reply u gave to Jlaff, haha

I am going to email them myself so come on blues let's get our motto back

This is a nice a break from new manager talk, come on blues send your emails to the following

everton@evertonfc. com

Degsy

25 May 2013 17:48:47
Know this may not be how everyone feels, however, I am not in a minority of one. I am overjoyed to see the back of Moyes, and his back room crew, this is not a reaction to his move to united or the disrespectful way he has conducted himself since, but, his lies, about the circumstances, do not help. Still I can see why he went to their victory parade, he wanted to see what a trophy looks like.

Evertonconspiracyrumours. com
Uncle Ben

25 May 2013 18:22:07
Yawn

Degsy

25 May 2013 17:08:59
Yep we now have become a laughing stock with the announcement of our new club crest! Whilst we now look like a team off Pro Evo ( Merseyside Blues anyone) the club have said it even consulted with our fans over it and were pleased with how the consultations went,
I will still support the club through thick and thin but as for now buying any merchandise with the CHiPS badge on I think my money will stay in my wallet.

25 May 2013 16:48:27
I can't believe they've gone ahead with this new badge, it's absolutely terrible imo others may disagree but I think it looks as if it has been drawn up by a class of five year olds.
Joe EFC

25 May 2013 16:31:05
Oh no its happened the new club badge is as feared! What a marketing disaster!
Elstone should be fired for this, they claim to have consulted the fans. If you were consulted please come forward you need treatment.
If there is one thing that wasnt broken at Everton it was the badge well done BK! go for gods sake go!

25 May 2013 14:23:09
This bank holiday Monday we will know who the new manager is

25 May 2013 13:29:58
Heard a whisper that steve mclaren is gna b the man in charge next season any forts people

My personal favourite fort was Verdun

Money for old rope. jlaff

"Heard a whisper that steve mclaren is gna b the man in charge next season any forts people"

English Translation:
Heard a whisper that Steve McLaren is going to be the new man in charge next season, any thoughts people?

25 May 2013 13:18:40
I don't understand all these posts who say certain managers haven't got PL experience so let's not employ them! The majority of football managers, eat sleep and breath football, yes they might not have been in that league before but they know what it is about! Our previous manager, said in an intervew that he watches all the top leagues in Europe and watches their styles of play!

So please stop saying they have no PL experience because I would rather have Bilic, Pereira or J�rgen Klinsmann than have some of the persons that have managed PL teams! (Pulis, Hughes, Martinez, Redknapp)!

25 May 2013 12:17:46
Joe royle in with carsley as no2 with view to take over in 3 years

25 May 2013 11:35:03
Ok let's say if pireira stays at porto who would you like then? Martinez I expect

Andy

Definetly want Martinez if we don't get Periera

25 May 2013 11:26:43
Why is everyone anti Martinez it makes me laugh if he comes he's going to have our squad can u see us only turning up in march get a grip we are huge compared to Wigan grow up
This vitor pereira no one knew him six months ago so seriously stop acting like you all no him
COME ON YOU BLUE BOYS

25 May 2013 10:47:14
Baines is a true professional he is talking about building on what we have and moving on without Moyes looking forward he is. Where as afro man is trying to sell him self to Manchester United never heard him say that many good things about Moyes before and here is the best bit I only want to play for a manager that really wants me hmmm che ching. I don't really care if goes I just hope Baines stays which I am confidant he will. Stef the blue

Totally agree, Baines staying is a priority, and even though I'd like to keep Fella I wouldn't be as disappointed if we cashed in on him compared to Leight

There's a lot more other cheaper alternatives for Fellaini but there's no one no who could replace Baines

King Chong

25 May 2013 09:36:13
Just heard its going to be David Weir

It will not be David Weir, either Martinez or Pereira.

It is david weir get ye money on him now at 40-1 all hinges on martinez staying at wigan {Ed007's Note - Weir has been heavily linked with the assistant manager job at Hearts. I know it seems crazy, just letting you know what is floating around up here in Scotland.}

25 May 2013 09:19:52
Hi, I personally think that Robbie Di Matteo would be perfect for Everton job on the basis that he won't cost loads and he won't be always asking for money, for any players off Bill Kenwright. I also think he has twice been wrongly fired. So if offered the job he would want to except it to prove himself to Chelsea ( the club who he gave the champo league).

Little Blue

25 May 2013 11:37:07
Not for me plays same squad every week does not do defending and its obvious he got a bit lucky with the cl getting 11 players behind the ball vs barca and bayern missing some great chances etc

25 May 2013 07:43:29
just a thought does any one think vp may be playing us for a new porto deal hope not and how much would it cost to get billic?

25 May 2013 06:08:23
With this long winded manager saga going on who thinks man city Chelsea and even stoke will all have someone in place before we do it really is doing my head in we just need to know something anything at the moment with the speculation we will have more managers than playing staff so come on bill talk to us and put us out of misery!stefc

Not like us, we normally make some stupid offer and tell the fans we were in for the player ha ha ha