Everton Banter Archive May 25 2016

 

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25 May 2016 22:05:49
Evening ladies and gents.

I am currently very positive about everything EFC. From our new manager to our potential new stadium, I think things are definitely looking up. I know that we are going through a stage of uncertainty but I am hopefully we will come out of this better than ever.

I am hopefully that we will get an exciting manager that will be able to bring our youth on and given a decent transfer fund will bring in some really good players.

I believe our new owner will really want to push the club forward and to the next level. I personally think he wasn't able to do what he wanted at Ansenal but here he is free to express himself and make our club his own.

Although it looks as though Big Rom and Stones will be on their way, this will only go in to new players. I believe that the days of the outward players funds going to the bank are long gone. Hopefully we can bring some classy players in to push us to the next level.

The thing that excites me most is the thought of anew stadium, especially at the docks surrounded by Peel Holdings development. I'd like to think it could put us on the world stage. Does anyone have any updates regarding the stadium as I've been searching the web and have found bits and pieces but nothing concrete. I think things must be in advance stages as it surely takes 2-3 years to build a new stadium and Joe Anderson (major of Liverpool) seems to think that we'll have the keys to our new stadium within 3 years.

Here's to a bright future :)

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25 May 2016 22:30:01
Good post Everton AI.

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25 May 2016 21:56:40
Pellegrini 11-8 odds on favourite tonight for the job at Everton. someone somewhere know something?!?

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25 May 2016 21:13:50
I think fellaini is a good measuring rod of what to expect under moyse. granted he is effective and has done a job at utd., but. and for me the but is a big one. do you want to watch a fellaini type player every week? Moyse bought him twice. both times over the odds. for me not a school of science player and I would prefer to watch entertaining wins. not ground out points. we can afford to give de boer a go. money in the hands of any of the candidates mentioned is a risk. koeman less so but he is staying put.

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26 May 2016 06:41:17
Sorry mate I am one of the old gits who has always supported my Club through thick and thin, to me a win is a win no matter how that comes. When Fellaini first came to Everton I thought like most others has Moyes lost the plot but as things turned out the bloke came to the fore when we needed him. He then went to Utd and initially under LVG he did not start but then look at Utd's finish with him in the Team. Even though I too do not want Moyes back, under him at times we did play good football and the Team certainly had passion and that is the key word 'passion' because with that comes application, hard work and pride. We lost all of that under Martinez, we now need a Manager that can bring all that back. FDB or Pellegrini for me and despite all the other candidates that have been bandied about it has always been those two particularly Pellegrini for me.

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25 May 2016 21:08:24
Can anyone think of any names that have not been mentioned my be there is a little diamond out there that no one has thought of.

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25 May 2016 22:04:29
Jocelyn Gourvennec. Ed002 mentioned him a few weeks ago. I did some research on him and he has massively overachieved albeit with a small club in Ligue 1. He got them promoted to Ligue 2, then promoted to Ligue 1, won the French Cup and the following year kept them in Europe longer than any other French team. All with a team based in a town of 7,500 people. He's kept them in Ligue 1 on a shoestring, which has meant he's had to bring young players through. Lower finish this year but just keeping them in the league is almost miraculous. He's clever, passionate, disciplined, possesses good man-management skills, tactically astute and loyal. He's nbeen likened to a young Klopp. He would be a great fit for us. I know he's not got prem experience and he hasn't managed a big club, but as Jr78 says below, a lot of the best targets now seem to be out of the frame and I'm with Woburn who says we should go for a young up and coming manager. Koeman has been pants everywhere before Southampton, Pellegrini I'm not convinced, Moyes nuff said, de Boer I'd be happy with although seems to have gone a bit stale the last couple of years. I would actually interview Gourvennec and see what he's got.

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25 May 2016 22:07:43
roy cropper.

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25 May 2016 22:10:04
The more I read about Lucien Favre the more I think he could be great. Decent record most places he's been, plays a fast counter attacking style and likes to give the young pups a game. Admittedly he's not as big a draw as some of the names mentioned and he has a reputation for being highly strung but if we can't get our first choices then he'd be worth looking at.

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25 May 2016 22:11:41
Roberto Martinez? :-)

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25 May 2016 22:16:32
maybe cocu.

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25 May 2016 22:19:17
Favre has gone.

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25 May 2016 22:49:40
Koeman pants before Southampton. emmm. Yes had bad spells at Valencia and AZ but other places he's been he done pretty good from what I've seen. Didn't he win some Dutch titles with 2 or 3 different teams? Psv and Ajax, didn't he win some other trophy somewhere else as well?

I'm not saying he done fantastically right through his career but pants until he got to Southampton? I think he's done well so far in his relatively young managerial career. A cert for Arsenal if Wenger goes next season.

FDB or Pell for Everton it looks like.

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26 May 2016 01:50:44
FDB for me. and as dags cheekily put Martinez. shame on you. imagine when Wenger steps down dags and bobby brown shoes gets your gig lol.

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26 May 2016 05:35:21
NBTB Koeman has won four trophies worth speaking of but always near the beginning of his time at a club that had been dominant in their league before he took over. The exception was the Copa del Rey at Valencia but his time there was a disaster overall. Look properly at his legacy everywhere he's been. He's left every club worse than when he took it on. Not saying he hasn't been decent at Southampton - he has. But he has been pants everywhere else. He never beat FDB to title when they went head to head over 3 seasons, he's never built a team like FDB had to at Ajax. He's had a very lucky career so far.

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26 May 2016 09:06:08
Ok coyb he has done bad at Valencia and AZ, I already said that. He might of been lucky to win with previous clubs but he won none the less. I don't rate Benitez but I can't say his time with the reds was pants because he won trophies.

Here's why I rate Koeman really. He has built damn near 2 teams with Southampton since he took over. He had to deal with a lot and was successful with what he achieved with what was at his disposal. This is all in the premiership. He could attract top players also.

His own playing career is amazing and I can imagine plenty of players wishing to play under him. Imo he is a very sustainable all round good manager. Gives youth a chance and Southampton seem to play a balanced system.

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25 May 2016 21:06:58
In 1966 I was hoping for a Dalek at Christmas,
got a Lego set. I manned up and thanked my mum and dad.
Bit like our appointment, er anyone actually want the job?
Give it to Unsy, usual bloody rubbish with this club.

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26 May 2016 06:47:42
I got the RAF Mushy and for the next 25 years no matter where I was in the World this great Team of ours was always foremost in my mind. Seen em come seen em go. We are now I believe ready under the right Manager to emulate the Team of the 80's.

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25 May 2016 20:55:51
We have a lot of young players so why not a young manager. I personally like DeBoer, and no he's not like Martinez. He believes in pressing the ball and if you lose it getting it back within 3 seconds (3 second rule) . How is that anything like Martinez sit back and watch tactics. We gave a guy from Preston a go once and he didn't do to bad. even though he's now history to me. So come on Everton give the guy a chance.

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25 May 2016 23:27:59
De Boer =relegation he would be a disaster another Martinez.

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25 May 2016 20:33:36
Not sure if it's just me and I know it's just paper talk but it feels like our club is being stripped off its assets. Player after player is apparently being sold, wanting to leave or end of contract. The sooner we appoint a new manager the better, at least he or she! (Don't want to be accused of not being pc) can get a grip of our club.
As for my choice of manager after most have been ruled out, FDB is most probably the best of the rest.

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25 May 2016 20:59:16
please no don't tell me its true. it is its 100% true trevor royal died in hollyoaks.

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25 May 2016 20:10:21
How is Frank De Boer "begging" for a job? He's a high profile manager with a high profile job available. He had talks with Swansea and Spurs, sure, but i'm not sure how that's "begging". Has anyone read an excerpt where he himself has come out and said "I want to be the manager at Everton Football Club? " Or is it his brother and agent who are saying it, who can say or do as they please, unless it's FdB handling them like ventriloquist dummies? Those who are saying "He reminds me of Martinez" : How would you possibly know that? Just because you read it in some article somewhere or on twitter. I think it'd be a sound appointment, as would Pellegrini. It won't be Moyes.

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25 May 2016 19:46:55
Benitez stays
Mouriniho however unlikely it was at Man U
Emery not moving
Koeman not moving
FDB begging for a job
Pellegrini not a fan of
Moyes shoot me now

Anyone else worried about it lmao.

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25 May 2016 19:27:48
Moyes don't make me laugh were suppossed 2 be moving forward not back taxi for moyes i hear villa park is isbabgood place to be this time of year see ya.

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25 May 2016 19:24:49
Can we please stop talking about moyes my God we are making ourselves look and sound like a laughing stock going on about him us blues are better than that we are starting to sound like the other side going on about the past let's all just wait and see what happens and please note more talk about him.

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25 May 2016 21:06:07
I ment to say please note no more talk about him . but doesn't matter but didn't last long did it.

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25 May 2016 19:23:01
Why is there so much negative opinion over Pelegrini. He's a top manager with a good record. So what if he didn't win the premiership this season. Neither did morhinio but most want him.

I bet pep will be making changes to that team as I'm sure Pelegrini would if he was still there.

I'd love him to coach us, he's a winner as he has proved on his CV. There aren't many options that will compare to him with what he's achieved especially in the premier league.

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{Ed025's Note - fair point ace..

25 May 2016 19:38:47
We would do very well to get a better manager than him Toffee Ace.

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25 May 2016 20:03:31
City's defence was utter crap when Kompany was out. He didn't have a plan B. He indulged Yaya even when he wasn't trying and it cost them games. He galvanised the team in his first season but it went downhill from there. He scraped 4th with the most expensive squad in the league, which has to be underachievement. Sound familiar? Did well in Europe this year, to be fair. Anyone remember last year (? ) though, when they needed one more goal v Bayern to top their group and he didn't realise it, so they sat back, finished 2nd and drew Barcelona as a result? If those faults are there with City, what could happen with us? Talk to City fans and they'll tell you: lovely guy but not up to it. Again, sound familiar?

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25 May 2016 20:06:00
I would take Pellegrini providing he accepted Unsworth as his assistant and taught him over the next two years.

Now stop talking about dithering Dave as you are making me ill and that Severn Bridge is looking more and more tempting each day lol.

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25 May 2016 20:07:58
I'm with you guys. City didn't hire him because he was an unproven manager. He got skills!

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25 May 2016 20:33:19
His record with Villareal and Malaga speak for themselves. Have him in a heartbeat. Force him to take Unsworth as his assistant? Not too sure about that.

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25 May 2016 22:05:31
Would you still pull your balls out for your boss if you knew you were getting the bullet? And especially if you had to manage a side like city with so many prima donnas and egos.

It's between him and FDB for me now.

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25 May 2016 22:08:19
Talk to City fans. Ones who go the game.

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25 May 2016 19:16:13
Knowing everton it will be someone who as not been mentioned in the papers or on the Internet plus I think they already know who our manager is but can't announce it for legal reasons because they are being very quiet about it.

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{Ed025's Note - its all about the process litts, im actually happy we are taking our time and not rushing into a knee jerk appointment mate..

25 May 2016 19:03:04
Ed025 you serious when you say your done with club if ginger returns? I wouldn't be done with the club no matter who is appointed. Would get annoyed and moan about it but never say I'm done. I know your loyalty is as good if not better than mine. So is it just a passive remark and you really mean you'll just be very annoyed?

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{Ed025's Note - i mean i will be done NBTB!, i have defended everton and put up with so much crap for donkeys years but that would be the final straw mate, i have always championed BK through much adversity and feel if moyes did return it would be because of his input, i dont think i could justify paying money and watching the team under his leadership again, i know it might sound radical but thats just the way i feel im afraid..

25 May 2016 19:37:39
I will never go the match again if Gollom returns, not going to though so not worried.

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25 May 2016 20:06:01
It's a 3 horse race in my opinion, Pellegrini, Moyes and de Boer.
Pellegrini is experienced but is not a long term solution could he keep our best players happy to stay on? Man City did look weak in defence last season.
Moyes knows the club inside out would sort us out into a solid team with money to spend could take us to next level unlike last time. I think he would sell Stones and buy a couple of top defenders also try his best to keep Lukaku giving him £150m to invest into the team. He would need to tell the fans the mistakes he has made and say that we are not a smaller club but one that is going places with the new investment at the end of the day in the past the club has done well to stay afloat and to punch above our weight that is why our players like Rooney, Arteta and Fellaini wanted to go as the chances of us stepping up where very slim. The club is at a different place now and if Lukaku, Stones and Barkley can give us another season with the investment going to be made I think we can be consistent top four. I understand peoples anger with Moyes but if he gets us challenging again he will win them over as its a results business as Roberto found out. I don't agree with people who said it was boring Football in the early days we dug out wins when needed but later on we played some nice stuff and mixed it up when needed. I am an Everton Fan and will never turn my back on the club we are all entitled to our opinion and may feel passionately about individuals, you can't just switch of feelings for your team, we have been through that many ups and downs through the years. Everyone hated Rooney but most want him back now.
Frank De Boer has come out and said he wants to come to Premier League but it is an appointment that doesn't fill me with confidence. He should say he wants to take a sleeping giant places not just come to PL. I just think it would be a gamble.

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25 May 2016 19:41:08
I totally agree with edd I have been there through the worst and by worst I rem5sibging bring on the Angell as ekoku and Norwich embarrassed us but if we bring Moyes back I will be sending my season ticket back oh and I have heard from one of the scouts Moyes is top of the list but no decision has been made.

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25 May 2016 19:41:24
Fair enough Ed025. Respect your view. I suspect it wouldn't be easy for you to do that. Personally I don't think he'll get it. Looks like FDB or Pell, only way Moyes would get it if they both say no. Can't see both of them turning it down.

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25 May 2016 19:49:21
so can i have your job ed if he gets it. haha.

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25 May 2016 18:58:41
Think we need to stop looking at twitcher, Moyes really, yer having a laugh, board will announce when ready, Pell or Deboer or a n other top target, stones and Luk going, poss £200 mil to spend, 40 on Hart mmmm no, wouldn't trust Moyes with my £65 pension.

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25 May 2016 17:58:08
I'm starting to think ed it's going to be pellagrini. Not my first choice but could be worse. Do u think it's going to be him mate.

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{Ed025's Note - i would not be disappointed if it was him john, anyone bar moyes for me mate..

25 May 2016 18:41:55
Bloody hell I've been on every site i no and there's nothin bout us evan been in talks with any manager why can't the board for once just say here we go blue fans we are going to talk to joe bloggs bout bein our manager but what do we still get silence and there's me thinking mr moshiri would make a difference lmo still the same old story no wounder we go off people mr moshiri do a micheal jackson make a change tell us blues what we want to here don't be like bill let us no what's happening.

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25 May 2016 19:29:17
What would it achieve by them telling us that they are talking to people about the vacancy? It is just stating the obvious don't you think? Some managers that have been sounded out will be currently employed so they can't come out and tell us, for example, that we are going to have a chat with Mr. Koeman in the morning can they?
Maybe it's just me belonging to a certain age group, but I think we should conclude our business behind closed doors and then we find out once deals have been done. On the whole, the majority of our fans are just too impatient. Let the board take their time instead of pressuring them into making a knee jerk appointment. They need to get the next manager right, let's give them the time they need rather than slate them.

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{Ed025's Note - i will have that spud, but there is nothing wrong with speculating who it might be mate, it relieves the boredom of having no footy to gas about..

25 May 2016 19:43:17
without doubt ed and there is no getting away from the speculation these days anyway. But there is no sense, despite some fans demanding, for the board to disclose their targets to their supporters. With you on the Moyes thing too ed, think I'll be done if he is reappointed. RM limited me to only a few games last season, it bored me to death! But DM would be a backward step when we should be entering a bright new era with Moshiri steering the ship.

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{Ed025's Note - i was so looking forward to a new era spud, in fact still am as long as a decent manager is appointed..

25 May 2016 18:39:41
Hey

. it is going to take a little patience fellow blues like it or not. I to cannot wait to see what happens but we must trust FM to get it right, as after all, we all know he has the final say. imo there is no way in this world that FM will employ a former manager ie DM. he will want to place his stamp on the club and will leave no stone unturned in terms of finding the right manager to take us forward. after all he has invested heavily in our club with more investment to follow. FM is no fool so let's just sit back n let things take there course n trust n support his eventual decision. COYB

Mart.

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25 May 2016 18:37:29
Why is everyone freaking out about Moyes etc. I get it, we all know how he left etc but if our takeover is anything to go by then we shouldn't rule out the Pope getting the job.

Lets be honest we all thought the Americans were going to take us over the then Mr Moshiri came out of nowhere to buy us.

So relax and be patient.

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25 May 2016 18:09:17
I would like to suggest my dream team for Everton. I would make Manual Pellegrini Director of Football. He has good knowledge of Latin American, European and English football and is by all accounts a nice person and would be a good ambassador for the club. I would appoint Frank de Boer as manager/ coach. He is used to working with a Director of Football and Pellegrini could introduce him to the English game. Between them they should have sufficient knowledge of young players on a global basis. I would make David Unsworth assistant manager with oversight of the U21's as part of his job. David would bring the passion we so obviously missed last year. OK Mr. Moshiri just get it done.

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25 May 2016 18:47:50
Mike, fantastic idea. 100% agreement if DB had help.

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{Ed025's Note - that would work for me as well mate..

25 May 2016 18:48:53
Not a bad plan BlueMike75. Would get people excited alright and I'm sure there would be plenty to talk about.

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25 May 2016 18:06:36
Didn't Chelsea play hard ball when we signed Lukaku, I seem to remember them saying this is the price so if you want him then that's the price you have to pay. He has 3 years left on his contact so we're in no rush to sell. So bollocks to Chelsea, pay up or shut up. We hold all the cards.

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25 May 2016 18:01:43
School of science saying its pelligrini. From there source

Just passing the info on don't shoot the messenger.

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25 May 2016 19:26:04
Dont worry niasse and kone are on firing range duty.

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25 May 2016 18:25:25
Elton Welsby saying on twitter it looks like it's going to be de boer.

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25 May 2016 18:36:09
If his style is like what has been reported, it looks like his football might be called De Boring.

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25 May 2016 18:51:09
Elton Welsby. He's a blast from the past.

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25 May 2016 16:39:01
Personally I think the lukaku situation is he has said he's made his mind about where he is going to play next season I think with Mr Brown shoes gone he's going to stay and help everton get champs leauge my thoughts anyway.

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{Ed025's Note - my thoughts are you are mistaken paul..

25 May 2016 17:21:44
According to a guy in the know he posted on GOT that we have only interviewed one person and only one person is in the frame at the moment. From that I surmise it is Pellegrini.

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25 May 2016 17:59:25
I wish clubs would hurry up and start bidding for him so we can get shot of the arrogant greedy disrespectful little get and the whole bloody awful ensemble that surrounds him and can't keep their mouths shut. The sonner he is gone the better.

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25 May 2016 17:46:17
Sorry ed i'm with Paul Lukaku to stay and champs league for EFC. You used to be such an optimist has RM knocked it all out of you?

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{Ed025's Note - no mate im a realist.. :)

25 May 2016 16:29:34
Had a bit of spare time today and got to thinking about past Everton greats and what their value would be in today's much over inflated market.
To put a bit of structure to it I decided o use the team of 85 as my starting point.
So, my thoughts on Kendall's all conquering starting 11 are.

Neville Southall: Pound for pound the best keeper I have ever seen. In his prime the best keeper in the world, easily. If Joe Hart is worth £40m Big Nev has got to be valued at £50m plus in today's market.

Gary Stevens: An athlete, strong and fast and for me a bit underrated at international level. £15m.

Pat van der Hawe: Psycho Pat, mad as a box of frogs. Ferocious in the tackle with an evil glint in his eye. £10m.

Kevin Ratcliffe: Club captain and good leader. Calm under pressure and one of the fastest defenders of his generation. His sheer speed often got out of trouble. £18-20m.

Derek Mountfield: Bought from the lower leagues but did not disappoint in the slightest. Weighed in with quite a few important goals too. £7.5m.

Peter Reid: A ferocious ball of energy, would literally have died for the club. Very unlucky with injuries but never gave up. £11m.

Trevor Steven: Fleet footed maeastro, a joy to watch as he turned defenders inside out, could shoot with either foot. £20-25m

Graeme Sharp: One of my all time heroes and someone I've been lucky to meet. At his peak a defenders nightmare. Unselfish, strong and great in the air. His style then would be perfect in today's game. If Lukaku is valued at £60m plus then add another 10 for Sharpy.

Andy Gray: A panic buy, last throw of the dice by Kendall but what a bargain and catalyst for everything this team achieved. Released far too soon to make way for Lineker. £18.5m.

Paul Bracewell: The perfect foil for Peter Reid, always there to cover and mop up in midfield. Blighted with injuries which surely cost him further glory. Injury free £25m easily.

Kevin Sheedy: Another of my all time favourites. Left footed genius but something of a luxury player at times. Who could forget his free kicks. Most people remember the one he took twice and put into both sides of the goal but for me it was the one in the derby when he scored at the kop end then ran to their fans flicking the V sign at them. He got off with the FA enquiry as well saying it was a victory sign. Priceless. £29-31m.

As I said only my thoughts, feel free to disagree or add any comments. Cheers.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree with a lot of them valuations RIB except for tricky trevor mate, if sterling is worth £50m then add another £10m for steven..

25 May 2016 16:57:18
A fair point on Trevor Steven when you put it into that context Ed although I do feel City got well and truly had off with the fee they paid. On the other hand a lot of that team is English or home grown which would boost their value more these days. Cheers.

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{Ed025's Note - i loved that team RIB, what a midfield of steven, bracewell, reid and sheedy...rivaled kendall, harvey and ball for me mate and that is high praise indeed..

25 May 2016 17:08:31
Sheedy would be a 50 mill player today easy.

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{Ed025's Note - probably svenny..

25 May 2016 18:24:02
Great post to break up the monotony of the Rom and new manager posts mate. I agree with the comments on both Trev and Sheedy, they were both exceptional and would be worth a bit more imo.
You're right about how injury prone some of them were back in 85. Imagine how good they would have been minus the drinking culture of that era, coupled with the advancement of sports science as it is today.

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25 May 2016 18:06:08
In this day and age of global football, how many of that 85 side would have been picked up by barca, real Madrid, bayern. Etc.

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25 May 2016 18:55:12
Sheedy is the reason I support Everton more or less. Was young at the time and thought he was absolute class.

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25 May 2016 19:20:05
Don't forget Adrain heath either, we had at least 3 quality strikers then. 20 mil.

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25 May 2016 19:38:32
Agree with most but Peter Reid has got to be more than that he bossed the midfield and if Henderson is £20m then £30m for Reidy!

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25 May 2016 10:01:10
Hi Ed who would you like to be our new manager mate.

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{Ed025's Note - i keep changing my mind litts, this week its favre but anyone bar moyes would do me mate..

25 May 2016 16:59:41
With u ed. He lied and then stated that we were holding players back. yes he steadied the ship under financial woes but they were different times. I'm with u. If he comes back ill b utterly disappointed 😞.

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{Ed025's Note - he did a fine job for us jcl and im grateful for that but he was paid fantastic money for the privilege mate..

25 May 2016 17:19:44
I don't dispute anything u say, and yes he was well paid, in fact I think he was 3rd highest paid behind Wenger and SAF at one stage. He moved on, and I now hope the efc board has.

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25 May 2016 16:07:37
I hope Phil Neville leaving Valencia has nothing to do with a moyes return to Goodson.

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25 May 2016 15:59:25
100 percent true just in from a reliable source everton to announce there new manager before the start of next season.

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25 May 2016 16:13:52
And we will field 10 men and a keeper too.

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25 May 2016 16:25:00
well that could be tomoz as its b4 the start of the new season.

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25 May 2016 16:44:29
Riveting stuff lads!

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25 May 2016 15:56:31
ARRRRHH i can't wait no longer picking up my phone every 2 min and flicking between here and newsnow i know it makes sence not rushing these descions but please let us know who r next manager is can't stand feeling so tence and highly sprung like a jack in the box i feel like my mind is going to explode ahhh feel a little bit better now I've got that out till another 2min time then ill be wound up again soz for the little rant needed to get that off my chest coyb.

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25 May 2016 17:46:54
I think your one of many I no I am wallyblue, the suspense is killing me, don't think there are anymore media sites I can check lol.

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25 May 2016 15:50:31
Bus driver wins 6 million on lottery and immediatly buys everton season tickets does he know something we dont.

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25 May 2016 15:30:29
is there going to be anymore departures apart from lukaku an possibly stones. on the managers side of things would it not be worth trying to persuade bilic to leave west ham and come to goodison?

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{Ed002's Note - There will be comings and goings over the summer. Bilic certainly won't be moving to Everton.}

25 May 2016 14:17:59
Manny P would be fine. His resume is stronger than the other candidates. Not inspiring, but low risk. Good credibility and has PL, Champions League, and extensive managerial experience across Europe.

I think he handled the last half of the season well at MC. FDB is a risk. Koeman has us to thank for his pay raise at Southampton. Manny P checks most of the wishing points for the next Manager.

DM: How many second times around work out for the better? Jose Mo?

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25 May 2016 13:42:48
I think David Moyes would be a decent choice if we don't get koeman or emery. Ok I was upset with his comments and derogatory offers for Baines and Fellaini, but I do believe he would improve our defence and with the increased money available would take us to the next level. I don't think he was that far away when he was with us. Perhaps we should give another go.

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25 May 2016 14:19:56
No chance, Moyes is a backwards step. This is our chance to push on. Bored of saying it, Moyes done well for us and won't knock him for it but it was best for both parties when he left. He couldn't take us to the next level, his big money signing on the whole were woeful and we played boring football. If we can't get emery or koeman then either pellegrini or take a chance on de boer but to the love of all that is ginger, not MOYES.

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25 May 2016 15:08:42
I don't think we have ever had a manager that has been so negative about our club. We can't do this and we haven't got that.

Now he's got the cheek to say if we go to him with something exciting he might be interested! He should be on his hands and knees begging to save him from obscurity. His ego beggars belief.

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25 May 2016 15:46:25
Moyes had cash at Utd and didn't exactly set the place on fire did he? We need a big name to attract big name players and keep our unsettled ones onside at least for this coming season at least.

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25 May 2016 13:41:30
benitez staying at newastle, another one gone.

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25 May 2016 14:35:19
Never an option anyway.

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25 May 2016 15:05:36
Yippee!

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25 May 2016 16:27:51
not another gone mate. one that was not wanted big difference.

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25 May 2016 16:47:20
Thank God.

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25 May 2016 13:04:17
I'm like everyone else when it comes to who our new gaffer will be I ain't got a clue who it will be we could even be suprised with a manager not even in the so called running and as the days tick by the long list of names start dwindling away koeman, emry, the waiter, jose all seem to have chosen the path they would like to walk we are by the way only guessing that these guys were on our list so I wouldn't get to down hearted because like I say we don't know

But as a 25yr season ticket holder I do know one thing whoever gets the job to manager our beloved blues we will give them a chance be it pellagrini, fdb or mr bean hey even David moyes we are Everton and when you come on board we give you a chance we might get one or two keyboard warriors giving it large but on that first league game at Goodison park in August who ever is lucky enough to get the job will have 40.000 toffees right behind them

That's all we can do
And
What we will do!

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25 May 2016 12:58:04
Ajax have appointed there new manager now.

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25 May 2016 12:45:24
Looks like I be glued to iPad. Can't find English paper anywhere hate been on holiday with transfer window open and the manager situation.

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25 May 2016 12:25:46
. it's going to be Pellegrini folks. he will be Evertons new manager. & b4 you all start whinging and moaning you need to get your head out of the clouds and realize what an excellent manager he will be and is a good fit for our club. check out his management record - it's excellent and his record at Malaga and Villarael is particularly impressive guiding both teams to their highest league finishes on record and entry to the Champions league and in fact the latter stages of the champions league with Malaga. he also has done well at Man. city and in my opinion things only spiraled somewhat when the owners announced Guodiola taking the reins. this guy is vastly experienced and has manager clubs at the very top I. e. - Real Madrid etc and although his particular strength in ability seems to be at clubs like Everton which are similar to Malaga and Villarael where they haven't had much success in a long while and are pushed in the right direction and i'm led to believe that Farhad Moshiri thinks the same and that if Koeman as expected confirms his extended contract later this week at Southampton Manuel Pellegrini will get the job. I think he will do a great job at efc next season and we all need to get behind him and the team from the outset.

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25 May 2016 12:38:59
I'd have him Sol, prefer Koeman/ FDB/ Emery but would not be upset if Pellegrini came, some fans don't want him at all though mate but everyone has their opinion.

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25 May 2016 12:41:46
I happen to agree, people are going on about him finishing 4th with that squad but they were going pretty well until guardiola was announced. He always handles himself impeccably and you just have to look at the kind of clubs he's managed to know its a step up.

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25 May 2016 12:44:20
Agree to a certain extent Soli. I think he is underrated and done ok to good at City. People do get too hung up on the money. He did have plenty at City but still done ok. On a whole his time there has been good. How much influence he had to put up with from 'higher' people he only knows.

I'd be happy with him. Definitely an improvement on Martinez. Only slight concern is defense. But I think it would be ok and he would be a good fit for the club.

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25 May 2016 13:16:05
. he did a brilliant job at Malaga. I think when he comes he'll bring 1 or 2 of the Man City players wiv him. maybe Hart, Bony or Navas.

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25 May 2016 13:46:09
Spot on Gibbo.

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25 May 2016 14:24:52
I would settle for pellegrini because the longer it goes on the more chance it has of being Moyes. Don't want navas though, awful football player and it is a concern that he got the most minutes for man city this season.
Still think there is a chance of emery or koeman but if not then pellegrini would do a solid enough job.

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25 May 2016 14:45:15
As most people would agree - Pellegrini is not my first choice, but as the list of potentials gets smaller, I'd prefer him over Moyes all day long.

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25 May 2016 12:06:11
I'm not sure which is funnier - Andy Gray's idea that "Moyes is a safe pair of hands"; or Andy Gray's idea that "Moyes could produce "another ten years of success for EFC".

Had Moyes stayed in 2013, we'd still be waiting for a win against the top 4, but we would be celebrating a top 11 finish! The only thing worse than Moyes would be Giggs. He'd have to buy a dummy so he could sit next to something in the dugout and practice his "Worried but not my fault" look.

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{Ed033's Note - surely post of the week for the Giggs part.

25 May 2016 12:17:29
Just read it to Brill, what planet is Gray on there mate.

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25 May 2016 12:20:13
How many times did we celebrate finishing 11th or lower under Moyes?

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25 May 2016 15:22:34
NBTB 2 out of Moyes first 6 seasons we finished below 11th. Finishing 17th in one of them. As for his transfer dealings OMG some of the players he signed I had forgot about they were that bad. Li Tie, Simon Davies, Per Kroldrup, Richard Wright, Nuno Valente, James Beattie. To name but a few. He also broke our transfer record 3 times so the no money argument is ridiculous. We do not need David Moyes, but David Moyes needs Everton. Swerve this man at all costs. Would rather have Rhino than Moyes.

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25 May 2016 16:52:59
Yes bluegray87 they were at the beginning of his time at Everton. His last 5 years when he had things the way he wanted after being at Everton 5 years where did the team finish?

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25 May 2016 11:42:33
ON SKY

Evertonians everywhere relax!

The Fat Spanish Waiter is staying at Newcastle Utd . Phewww!

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25 May 2016 13:18:06
Delighted. We can all relax.

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25 May 2016 11:18:11
Well we have had it all now Blues, when I said it will probably be someone we have not mentioned I didn't think it would be Giggsy ha ha, more press garbage.

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25 May 2016 11:25:17
Murf

Thats right mate, and given the latest 'silly season ' rubbish Giggsy (kinnell) will be seen at FM's side in michelin rated eateries in deep 'cordial' conflab hee hee.

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25 May 2016 11:15:54
How would you evertonians feel about having Rooney back with lukaku going the other way. obviously a part exchange with X amount coming your way.

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25 May 2016 11:51:55
Never going to happen really.

Utd would have to pay his contract up, cause we not offering him anything like that even with new investor, then he would need to take massive pay cut, chances are other clubs would offer him a bumper last deal pay packet on hearing he's available.

£50m + with Rooney might not appeal to Utd 😜

Then there the Mourinho factor, think he the type to hold grudges as long as an elephants memory.

Plus I just don't like the fat shriek b*st*rd 👹 kissing badges and parading himself infront of the LGS. His careers has been longer away from us than with us so better left that way IMO. Thanks but no thanks!

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25 May 2016 09:59:47
Please Bill for once let your head rule your Heart, you messed up big time with Roberto, you romantic you, please please don't make a bad situation worse by employing Moyes again.

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25 May 2016 10:17:59
BCT

I'm with you all the way mate, I just think this is up to FM not BK and he more than likely doesn't go in for the 'old school tie' stuff, he's more of a 'peaks and troughs ' pragmatist.

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25 May 2016 11:10:21
Bill won't have any say in the new manager Billcroc, we need to understand now that Mr Moshiri pulls the strings.

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25 May 2016 09:09:06
with koeman, mourinho, favre out of the running, and emery supposedly happy at sevilla that leaves, de boer, pelligrini, moyes. don't think any of them better than benitez. de boer plays same game as martinez, pelligrini couldn't win premiership with the best squad, moyes i like a lot but can't see club putting the fans through it saying that would they with benitez? damn it give it to stubbs.

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25 May 2016 09:33:12
Knowing us Daz there is someone no one has mentioned in the pipeline as everything reported up to now is just the papers and we all know how much garbage they speak mate.

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25 May 2016 10:28:00
Have to agree with Murf. Wouldn't be one bit surprised if someone that wasn't mentioned at all gets it. All the paper talk is entertaining but very little of it is actually factual.

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25 May 2016 08:28:15
There is so much guff on here about Moyes that I almost wish that he would come back and we can spend another 11 years regretting it. Moyes lowered expectations to the extent that he was praised for keeping us up. Martinez raised expectations to the extent that he had to go because he showed the potential. And now we have a professional set-up, a proper academy, a youth policy and the best, most marketable squad for 30 years thanks to RM - and we could seriously consider bringing Moyes back? The worst possible candidate on the list by a mile.

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25 May 2016 09:15:40
Did you never go to watch the Academy/ Under 18/ Under 21 or Reserves then brill! The Academy etc! were there under Moyes, the youngsters were there under Moyes. Who did Martinez bring in? Mcgready, Del Boy (no idea how to track back so a luxury player) , McArthy (we have hundreds of him wanting to join Everton) . It is a Myth about Martinez, I keep saying it till Blue in the face, look at the blokes CV and stats it is all there yet people still rate the guy, I just do not get it.

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25 May 2016 09:34:07
Who rates Martinez Bill, don't think anyone does any more mate.

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25 May 2016 09:49:02
martinez brought the club, squad down in my opinion. moyes done an excellent job, just look at the players he brought through the club. martinez got left an good squad (maybe near there end, wheres the pienaars, artetas, fellanis, mirallas, . martinez never replaced pienaar, osman, distin, fellani, brought in mccarthy, cleverly, kone, alcarez, eg. moyes had a good balancce in the squad, baines and pienaar, coleman and osman/ mirallas. does my head in when people say moyes not good enough, he is a good manager just p***ed a lot of people off.

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25 May 2016 10:07:06
Dazza

When he left us I was sorry to see him go mate, however he wanted to better himself and he failed (twice)

Now I want us to better ourselvse with a manager who won't hide behind lack of funds and because we are the 'peoples club'
No I want a manager who will take resposibilty for his desicions, believe in Everton football club challenging for the top honours and be bold enough to go out and win silverware!

David moyes bless him, has proved he doesn't tick those boxes.

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25 May 2016 10:30:29
You sum it up nicely there dazza good manager just pis*ed a lot of people off.

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25 May 2016 08:18:19
Good article in the Everton Echo regarding control of our club, the experts have spoken so everyone rest easy as Mr Moshiri is the boss, google the headline below:

Who controls Everton FC after Farhad Moshiri became the largest shareholder.

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25 May 2016 09:30:45
Just had a look. And now I'm going to check under the floorboards for any of the missing shares 😂.

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25 May 2016 05:46:49
De boer for me now
Pelligrini don't inspire can't win with the players he had, and looks like he can't be arsed, de boer is fresh and will know about foreign players, if moyes comes back i m done can't cope with it. Stinks of bill and his plans.
Rather keep unsworth than moyes.

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25 May 2016 07:03:57
Moyes isn't coming Pb, guaranteed mate.

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25 May 2016 08:30:47
I hope you're right. Moyes would be the end. Just think :finishing 11th with two semis would have been a triumph in Moyes-speak.

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25 May 2016 10:05:20
Can't believe how short some peoples memories are. With no money we were in or about the European places year after year . Before that we were flirting with relegation year after year. Remember final matches against Wimbledon, then Coventry. Thanks to Moyes, and can't stress this enough, with no money, he did a unbelievable job. We went from selling Rooney for £30m and being grateful for it . To turning down £30 for lescott. We became a different club .

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25 May 2016 11:16:15
All I remember of Moyes was the refusal to sign a new contract simply because he was leaving us and he knew it, the stupid ridiculous sneaky smarmy look on his face when Sky Sports camera zoomed onto his face, just as he was getting a limo on route to London to speak to Bill, he knew he was going a year ago, one of the highest paid managers in the world at the time, he wanted to shaft us by not allowing us to get anything for him off United, United told him not to sign with us so they could save cash buying his contract out.

I have absolutely no objection with wanting to better yourself, I have no objection with him trying to buy our players at a reduced rate, I do despise the man for being a sneaky little beep though

in the past and should stay there, failed at his last 2 clubs, he is a dinosaur.

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25 May 2016 11:51:43
I remember relegation fights mate, not looks on faces.

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25 May 2016 12:06:47
Hear, hear.

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25 May 2016 01:44:48
What's all this on sky Jose has agreed terms with United did anyone think it would be anythink different sky trying to make us all out to be mugs I use to like Jose but after this the same as moyes done new about it six months before let on he never had a clue shown total dos respect for your fellow managers so hope you fail like notes did just after the money he always goes to clubs already made you are a fake Jose and everyone will see now this season at the mancs just money money money judas is that where lukaku has learnt from good bye rom asap because your not as good as you think you are time to cash in efc on another fake.

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25 May 2016 07:04:57
Its getting boring now Nod isn't it mate, its even on Sky news too, the Gulf war got less coverage, i'm having a £5 he is the first manager sacked should be great odds.

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25 May 2016 07:42:41
Yeah half of your lot thought it would be different.

Expecting Mourinho to manage your lot and had he come to everton he would be the Messiah

Sour grapes?

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{Ed025's Note - i never wanted him dave, and although he may well get you CL footy it will be at the cost of entertainment and flair, he does get the job done i will give you that but i want to be entertained mate..

25 May 2016 08:21:56
I didn't want him either Dave, no sour grapes from me mate, I just think that he is not the ideal fit for your high expectations from what is a massive club with a bigger history than Liverpool :) , he only needs a bad run like at Chelsea and will fold again, especially with some of your legends already slating him i. e. Cantona

Good luck for next season fella, should be a mad transfer window this year.

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25 May 2016 08:32:57
I personally think Mourinho will fix Manchester United and Manchester United will fix Mourinho my opinion is he is perfect for us so I'm delighted with the appointment.

Cheers Murf good luck for you lot too always liked to see Everton do well (except when your playing us)

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25 May 2016 08:59:21
Tbh discodave, I never expected him to come to us, I wished it cause he could of stabilised us IMO and progressed us 4-5 years in 2-3. But I think building a club up as in a real project is beyond him now, set in his ways of buy everything in rather than develop.

I think he is a excellent appointment for United, if he's the right onge? Well! time will tell on that one.

Look forward to beating you at OT next season ;-)

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25 May 2016 09:09:39
Dave you are dreaming of you think you can fix JM. He's his own man and will never change for anyone. We need to deal with realities here and for that history talks. He will bring you the title he will bring you cup success and he will play boring football. He will also bring reproach on your club by allowing his ego to rule when a little humility would be the classy thing to do.

If you want success with him - no problem, it's guaranteed.
If you want integrity to your club and it's fine history - forget it.

Sour grapes? You decide. But you can't argue with history.

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25 May 2016 09:19:08
Cheers Dave, we all now SAF is going to end up back in the hot seat mate ha ha.

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25 May 2016 08:15:04
Ed I see where your coming from I was just making the point that a lot of fans on this page wanted him 2 weeks ago and now he's a Washed up manager.

Mourinho was my 1st choice after SAF so I'm happy.

I think Frank De Boer will be your new man would you be happy with him ed?

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24 May 2016 23:55:09
Its official. I have no finger nails left. I know the board need time to recruit the best manager they can. However i hope it doesn't take too much longer.
I just got a horrible feeling its going to drag on and on. Leaving us little time to recruit players the manager thinks he needs.

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25 May 2016 07:05:49
Announcement Friday 1pm mate, I was only half hour out with the Martinez sacking so having another guess here, see if my luck is still in.

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25 May 2016 09:25:01
Haha let's hope your right pal. If the board are anything like me it want be though. I keep changing my mind who i want every hour.

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24 May 2016 21:30:09
What do you think of the Joe Hart thing then Ed do you really think he will come to us?

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{Ed003's Note - No idea :P }

25 May 2016 02:01:48
Complete tomorrow's fish paper wrappings BS.

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