Everton Banter Archive November 25 2017

25 Nov 2017 22:06:43
Right everyone saying they don't want O'Neil as the manager. Yet they want a strong manager who won't take any crap from the players?
Have a think!

25 Nov 2017 22:44:14
Yes Woburn we want a strong manager who won't take any crap from the players but also one who is half decent. O Neill has done nothing in the club game, won a couple of league cups when the league was different to now. His transfer dealings are suspect to say the least.

25 Nov 2017 23:30:35
Ya know when a child is crying and nothing will shut it up. You offer everything to the child just to shut it up. Yet it refuses everything that is offered to it with no solution of its own.

That reminds me of plenty of the supporters at the moment. Any manager that is mentioned is not good enough.

I couldn't care less who it is as long as they know how to set up the team to stop leaking goals. We do that then we can improve. Not a moment sooner.

26 Nov 2017 01:23:43
If you look at clubs he managed apart from Sunderland he actually overachieved.

26 Nov 2017 09:41:10
Totally agree Truebluemetz79. He even overachieved with Ireland currently. Got further than Austria and Wales who got to semi finals of Euro. He gets the best out of what is at his disposal.

26 Nov 2017 10:22:47
Good posts TrueBlueMetz, NBTB and Woburn, Sorry Smit mate not 100% with you on this one.

26 Nov 2017 13:08:15
Listen I wanted Koeman and no one else as our manager the other summer so I'm probably not the best person to advise on who is good or bad as a manager. SMIT666 over and out.

28 Nov 2017 16:00:19
Smit666 your as good as anyone. About 90% of us were very happy with Koeman. Doesn't mean you don't know your stuff or have an opinion.

25 Nov 2017 20:09:05
Rafa Benitez rarely gets a mention as fans choice as manager for obvious reasons. But he has premiership experience, European and champion league experience and managed one of the biggest clubs ie Real Madrid. With the Newcastle situation unknown he maybe interested with the added factor he lives locally.
If he was interested and the board approached and appointed him all he would have to say is, that it is intention to RESTORE Everton to being the No1 club on Merseyside. Then win the FA Cup this season and top 4 next season.
I then woke up at 4.00am to go for a wee. So no doubt others will tell me go back to sleep.

25 Nov 2017 22:49:39
I would welcome him with open arms. Technically brilliant, likeable and a winner and still a world class manager.

25 Nov 2017 19:36:24
These O'Neill rumours are getting stronger. It has to be a paper trash. If he does get the job that really will be the last straw for me. I never wanted Koeman and I said so in here numerous times, that I would quit Everton if he become the manager. Obviously I didn't because I couldn't quit Everton. But this time round I think I really will. Are we that desperate that we will take anyone who wants the money. Sorry job. You know what. I'll do it. 1 million a year (I'm not greedy) I'd prefer a 5 year contract. But I'll take what I can get. When I completely fudge the team up and get the sack. I'll just take my compensation for the remaining years left. I'll go quietly and I'll say nothing to the rags.
I've played fifa 17 on the PlayStation 4 and actually won the league with Everton. Previous to that I played Premier Manager 97 and took Halifax to the Prem and signed Ronaldo.

25 Nov 2017 20:35:28
Ah FIFA17 that’s how we recruited our last two managers.

25 Nov 2017 21:45:41
The only thing I can say in O'Neil's defence is he can install confidence in players who have lost their way. He can make a mediocre team difficult to beat, but, I fear that he has worked too long on small budgets, that I worry could he handle the big egos. Certainly his track record is good apart from the last year at Sunderland. Not so sure he would work with a DOF either but would prefer him to Allardyce if it came down to a choice of the two.

25 Nov 2017 15:59:35
I'm not surrgusting that suporters should have a veto, but, if those in the boardroom take any note of suporters feeling, they cannot help to notice that O'Neill's apointment would be deepley unpopular.
At this time the thing that is needed most, is that the club, players and suporter come together to get us out of this mess. I do not claim to have done any kind of survey but anecdotally, support for O'Neill's appointment is running at less than 1 in 100.

25 Nov 2017 18:12:22
I'd be surprised JCW he doesn't fit any the owners wants. He is old, not foreign and not a big name.

25 Nov 2017 18:20:25
hope you are right mate, Silva for me.

26 Nov 2017 01:26:24
I would not say he is not a big name depending on how old you are he won champions league twice as a player and won things with most clubs.

25 Nov 2017 12:48:32
So what do we all want for Xmas? A resurgent Everton playing with confidence. A tight defence and let our offensive players show what they can do.
We need a Manager to deliver our presents though. Mr Moshiri and Kenwright have written the Xmas list.
But who are the three wise men on it?
O’Neil
Dyche
Silva

Not sure about frankincense mer and gold but Silva would be good.

Merry Xmas blues.

25 Nov 2017 10:35:11
See your poll below and those two come no where near the worst manager for me, the one that takes the biscuit would would be the infamous Mike Walker he took us from mid table to relegation candidates in weeks and we got out of jail against Wimbledon in 1994 if the old brain box is working, we had Peter Johston to thank for landing us with him.

25 Nov 2017 11:47:42
With you on Mike Walker Guernsey.

25 Nov 2017 07:50:22
How about a poll then boys who was the worst manager koeman or martinez?

{Ed033's Note -


Koeman / Martinez Poll

25 Nov 2017 08:27:27
Had to pick Martinez as don't think it was all koemans fault Walsh needs to take some blame.

25 Nov 2017 08:56:45
It is definitely Koeman, can't blame walsh.

25 Nov 2017 09:50:27
Martinez for results, although it's tough to compare the 2 with Koeman only completing 1 season. Definitely Koeman for off the field management.

25 Nov 2017 10:13:33
Think this debate will split fans I know I picked Martinez but never felt this bad and worried watching this team.

25 Nov 2017 10:25:18
Sorry blues for the poll . it shows the state the club is in when you ask for a poll of who was the worst manager. but it will be interesting what the outcome will be.

25 Nov 2017 11:41:10
Strange but both managers before coming to us were tipped for top clubs. Martinez I remember touted for a possible replacement for Wenger, and Koeman for Barcelona. Within two years both were deemed bad and failures. Wonder if it something about us that does this. Maybe a complete clear out of the hierarchy, coaches and backroom staff might be a good start for a new manager.

25 Nov 2017 06:58:34
The main problem for any new manager is deciding on a system of play, a formation, and picking the best players to fit that system (irrespective of who they are) . Then the manager needs to stick with the core players and let them get used to playing that system. Apart from the majority of the players underperforming, the other major issue is an inconsistency in formation and team selection. Koeman used about 21 players and 7 formations this season, Unsworth isn't far off that himself.

25 Nov 2017 07:35:49
Couldn’t agree more, however I’m not sure of who and what system with the bunch we have now.
Maybe we bite the bullet, put what we believe to be the
Best on past experience and run with it for a few weeks.

25 Nov 2017 09:24:37
Agree with ALL of that but one other huge factor, the three most influential players of the last 3 seasons were not appropriately replaced. Romelu, Ross and Seamus. they were the back bone of our side.

25 Nov 2017 10:15:11
Agree. The problem being it is very difficult given our situation for anyone - in particular Unsworth with his inexperience - to hold their nerve and stick with a system and core group.

25 Nov 2017 12:28:16
I know what you all mean. It's bad times when Niasse is your best player and you can't wait for Funes Mori to get back (who isn't that good in my opinion) . I don't know what system would work with this disjointed squad but then again I'm not a top football manager. I think it may require some creative thinking, and upsetting some of the senior players.

25 Nov 2017 06:23:10
Where are all the toffee noses calling for Unsworth now.

25 Nov 2017 06:42:44
I was one of the ones calling for Unsworth. At the time I didn't realise how bad a state the team is in. I feel sorry for Unsworth and I now believe it's not only going to take an experienced manager but a pretty special one to save our season.

25 Nov 2017 07:16:56
Don’t blame David, the squad is what it is, simple they are not good enough for the top half of the premiership.

25 Nov 2017 09:52:16
The toffee noses your taking a dig at are called supporters rich, unsworth has been put in charge until a new manager is found and gets my support for however long that is.

25 Nov 2017 11:51:14
Good post Mick. If the board want unsie to be part of the future then one would hope that they include him in the next managerial appointment. Promotion from U23s to PL squad as a coach and possibly assistant to the manager. He is not ready yet by far for the full job but can learn over 2-3 years. He would also be invaluable to a new man as he knows the players. let's face it Jose was a nobody until he learnt from someone.

25 Nov 2017 12:17:46
Jose learnt a lot from Sir Bobby Robson. I think at Barcelona he was mainly an interpreter for Sir Bobby.