Everton Banter Archive August 27 2017

27 Aug 2017 21:49:53
A common theme that I have noticed i'd being mentioned is that we have had 3 hard games in the past 6 days - sorry to say but if we stay in the Europa we will have 3 games every week until we are knocked out - there are no easy games in the premier league whether home or away. so should we get use to this type of performance week in week out!

The players we have bought do not fit the system RK is trying to play - 3 at the back is a no no - a good manager learns from his mistakes but RK seems to go back again and again to a back 3 - unless you lived on mars everyone knew Lukaku was leaving - why leave it until now to start looking for a decent replacement ( Rooney will score goals but not on Lukaku level ) .

A quick point about walsh - he was brought in at great expense to unearth " hidden gems" - other than Gueyre who has he found that is going to make it in our team - the young players purchased will never get a chance with RK.

27 Aug 2017 22:09:41
I think Koeman is good with young players. We've bought youth and he's put them in the team. We've had three really good windows and bought quality.

In general Koeman is doing a damn fine job but sometimes a bit like Moyes he trusts being compact and defensive instead of using more of the offensive players.

Would Madrid, Barcelona, Arsenal, Liverpool or even Chelsea use so many defensive players? Of course not. 4 center backs today in the starting line up and Holgate offers nothing going forward.

27 Aug 2017 22:44:27
Behave did you see arsenal today absolute shambles reckon we could've won 8-0 against them if lowly Liverpool can score 4 with there rubbish players also Liverpool didn't look that good I think we will stuff them this year.

27 Aug 2017 23:13:51
Playing 3 games a week is not an excuse and it is not a theme as you say it's an observation how many points do think any of the top sides would get playing this for example
Man City away on Monday
Barcelona away on Wednesday
Chelsea away on Saturday eve

How many pts do you think Man Utd would get from that schedule.

28 Aug 2017 09:20:05
Haven't posted for a while, I don't think it's the result that concerns us blues too much, more the nature of the defeat. I can accept defeat if guts are busted in the process. We have a lot of room for improvement across the park but particularly in the last third. We need to at least have a go. Zero shots on target whether we've played 4 games in the last 10 days or were playing arguably the best team in the league isn't acceptable. I'm sure it will come and the players will gel but Tom, Sigi and Holgate looked really disinterested. Mo I thought showed some good touches and it's good to see him back, Sandro clearly has pace and he needs a big man or players that can get quick balls in behind the defenders for him to latch on to. DCL looked sharp and a bit dangerous when he came on, Gana and Rooney were neat and tidy but didn't have much going on around them. I'm not convinced with Jags and Williams in the starting 11 we won't ship goals. I was in the Matthew Harding stand as I couldn't get an away ticket and the Chelski cockney geezers around me were commenting how easily Willian, Perdro etc were slicing us open. If they had their shooting boots on we could easily have gone 6 down, (we didn't but can you imagine the comments on here if we did?! ) luckily Pickford had a handful of shots straight at him. Hopefully we can add to the squad and get all the players pushing each other for positions. I doubt many teams will go to Stamford Bridge and boss it so overall it does show us where we are compared to top four sides.

27 Aug 2017 21:06:20
Honestly find this all hilarious. We get called bitter but in my eyes I day fickle. Iv seen people change from saying we are on our way to cups to being relegation fodder. We possibly are the most negative fans that i know.

27 Aug 2017 21:36:53
No one more negative then tranmere fans and people need to reliase squad needs time to adapt.

27 Aug 2017 22:49:56
No need to be negative we are the best team in the premier league at the moment possibly even Europe we would possibly have a tough game beating real Madrid but we have as many world class players as them. Sigurdsson would easily get in reals team and rooney, klassen, Keane. Bring it on. Come on you mighty Everton.

27 Aug 2017 20:40:47
Koeman I feel will be a successful manager for us and we have done the best bit of business in the transfer market in my lifetime. We still need a striker and a winger in my opinion and if there's money left in the pot another centre back.

However, Koeman has to wake up to these mistakes. I said before a ball had been kicked that it could be over at half time and I'm not paid to manage football teams.

He makes sense when taking about ball possesion and retention but when you have more defensive types of players on the pitch you lack the creativity to make things happen. It was 85 minutes when their keeper made a save. That is not good enough.

I hope he learns from this but if you don't when you've been hammered 5-0 using this tactic I'm not convinced he will after a 2-0.

All being said we have been beaten once so far but I think it's time to loosen the shackles and look to some of our creative players and give them a bit of trust that they too can perform against the big sides and we are more than just a defensive outfit.

27 Aug 2017 18:53:08
Sorry but i am blue for years, but we didn't turn up today, disgusted, wheres the problem, defence, midfield and attack gawd knows, maybe the board will wake up now COYB.

27 Aug 2017 19:53:36
Its been one game against the champions. Yeah we rolled over today but most played 90 minutes in Croatia 2 full-days ago. Get a grip.

27 Aug 2017 18:51:21
Will someone please tell me why Koeman waited till the 82nd minute before putting on a wide player with pace. And why did Sandro replace Calvert Lewin in the starting line up?
Koeman has to go -he is tactically inept.

27 Aug 2017 19:17:31
Surprise Surprise you are being negative yet again.

27 Aug 2017 19:27:53
has to go do me a favour go support that lot from over the park your an embarrassment.

27 Aug 2017 19:45:18
Oh give it a rest, that was our 3rd game in less than a week away to the champions. We're in transition, it's not going to happen over night.

27 Aug 2017 16:39:24
Today was our third game in 6 days and if you are to perform to your best each game you need to have quality in depth, we haven't and as much as defeat is hard to take it was expected and I would have happily taken a point if offered.
The 3 at the back splits opinions and I am not a fan but I feel it is the managers way of suffocating the attack of Chelsea, yes it didn't work but its early days and if we would have nicked a 1 nil then fans would be saying what a masterstroke, instead they pick faults with the system, out of interest how would these fans have set up with the personnel available? Interesting week ahead regards to ins and outs so let's see how we go and then maybe at Christmas if we are still inconsistent then its time to moan.

27 Aug 2017 17:08:35
For me Bluegray it's a common theme when we play 3 at the back. We have NEVER played well with it. Even Koeman himself said at half time against Stoke he made a mistake and went to a back 4. Why not learn fro. That mistake?

I like Koeman but this is turning into an obsession that is derailing and threatening real progress.

27 Aug 2017 18:29:18
Liverpool played the same amount of games and look how good they were today. Squad is not deep enough - granted we have injuries - and we don't have the pace to trouble the better teams. When Bolasie and Coleman are back this will help, but will this be this year, or sometime in January?

27 Aug 2017 18:51:10
Hartlepool could have beaten Arsenal today so big deal.
Yes we have injuries and with Europe are squad is way to small we are a work in progress, at least another two windows I reckon before we can really challenge.

27 Aug 2017 19:02:22
what have Liverpool got to do with it they played a very poor Arsenal side whereas we played the champions today played in Croatia midweek and against city last Monday who are favourites for the league doesn't matter how big your sqaud is any team would struggle slightly with that never mind at the start of the season when your building your fitness up here's a Novel idea how about you stop worrying about LFC or any other club and concentrate on our own great club I'm proud of how the guys have done they just ran out of steam today but apart from utd and city no other top 7 club has ran clear from us and we have played 2 of the toughest away games already up the blues.

27 Aug 2017 19:29:40
Concentrate on our own side lads eh! I have no interest in Liverpool (the Football Team) as I am not a supporter, I am an Everton Supporter and the lack of quality was there to see against a Chelsea side that hardly broke sweat.

27 Aug 2017 22:53:37
As I said the 3 at the back was wrong but the performance was due to it being our 3rd game in 6 days and our 7th competitive game of the season, compare that to Chelsea who were playing their 3rd competitive game, what do you expect, its not FIFA, the players are real people.
Interesting to hear Koeman after the game regarding Mirrallas, I think he's a goner after those words.
I will put my head on the line and say come Friday we will be stronger, with a Winger, a Centre Back and a Striker signed, as for using them lot as an example, not really feasible considering they played Saturday last week and then Tuesday before playing the late game today, all at home may I add, so not the same really, remember this is the Everton page not the Norway Reds page.

27 Aug 2017 15:41:06
Poor today boys right through the team shows how far there is still to go before we're anywhere near the top 4
Put this one behind us and move on
COYB.

27 Aug 2017 15:53:54
I wish Koeman would put out a more aggressive team from the beginning of the mach. It was only near the end were we had more attacking players on that we looked anyway near scoring. I know they are a good team but sitting back and letting them hold a high line is not the best way to play them.

27 Aug 2017 16:13:53
One of those days. Chelsea got convincingly beat by Burnley the other week. they had a point prove. we just got our tactics wrong imo. I'd have played 4-5-1 with Dom up front. let's not get carried away.

27 Aug 2017 16:29:08
Didn't Chelsea beat us 5-0 last season? 2-0 is disappointing but I wouldn't get carried away with it. A lot of new players. It will take time to integrate them properly.

27 Aug 2017 16:38:25
You can't expect the kid to play 3 times in a week upfront on his own we need to look after him.

27 Aug 2017 18:54:48
We really do need a goal scoring centre forward Sandro is not good enough his signing was a big mistake for me and nothing has changed my mind.

27 Aug 2017 14:24:04
I hate the 3 at the back an wing backs system y not 451 or 442 we can't do 3 at the back we haven't got the quality in gbe squad for tha system
God sake.

27 Aug 2017 14:12:20
Didn't Koeman learn nothing from last seasons hiding? 3 at the back once again and it looks like now we're on for abother hiding and its not even half time.

27 Aug 2017 14:25:15
We look to be struggling, plus Chelsea look very solid at the back (and Mid) Not our day today unfortunately but hopefully we don't concede any more.

27 Aug 2017 14:28:20
Jimmyc for crying out loud stop winging. If you can manage a football team any better why have we not heard of you?
Moan moan freaking moan that's the only time we hear from you lot, go support another team where moaning is justified.

27 Aug 2017 15:19:39
So you're happy are you grumpy? Easily pleased hey. And if you wanna go back through the years on this site and check my posts pal you'll find out what types of posts i send. Freedom of speach mate just like yourself. I've followed my team which is Everton by the way for 53yrs through thick and thin home and away and away in europe spent a fortune all been worth it no matter what so no i don't think ill be going to support somebody else thank you just because you don't like what i said.

27 Aug 2017 17:41:56
It's not what you said in banter Jimmyc it's the negativity. Basically saying RK does not know his job, Saying we are going to get a hiding even before half time.

As for being easily pleased well yes I'm actually pleased with how the team is starting to gel a little, I'm pleased we got a point against City, I'm pleased we got through in Europe and I'm pleased that our manager has more knowledge of the game than you do.

27 Aug 2017 22:01:07
Grumpy mate you're a passionate blue i can tell, so am i. Like all of us we hate getting beat. The only team i managed was in the canny farm junior football league (long defunct ) i managed them to a cup final where they got walloped 6/ 2. Anyway all i was trying to point out was the 3 at the back formation. We tried it at home againsst stoke and it didn't work RK came out and said it himsekf that he'd got it wrong in first half so changed it to good effect sound spot on. Last year we deployed the same system agsinst the champions elect and got a hiding. Nearly 12 months later we line up the same way against them albeit different personnel but all the same its the same formation different players first half we are woeful and 2 nil down being overun in the middle of the park and we're punting long aimless balls upfield to nobody and not a shot on target. What did you want to hear from me? We are playing great and everything in the garden looks rosey? I said it as i felt at the time 3 at the back won't work as it didn't last time against a team like Chelsea hence 2 nil up at the break. Could you hand on heart with all the positivity in the world see us coming out in the second half and putting chelsea to the sword? RK is the man imo to take us forward he has done that in his first year ie in the way we play getting rid of most of martinez's buys abd the quality players he's brought in. But to admit to it himself 3 at the back was wrong against the likes of stoke who are shite then to go and replicate the same formation to a team who gave us our biggest hiding last season just didn't sit right with me. i won a few medals for playing football through my career and as i said managed a junior team to a cup final but i am no master tactician but surely even you could see from the start what the outcome was going to be today looking at the starting formation. keep the banter going pal that's what its all about, it would be boring as f@@k if we all agreed with everything said on here.

27 Aug 2017 22:39:42
I hear what you are saying mate. I didn't intend to come across so harshly and I apologize to you for that. I am a passionate toffee ( after the boys pen you either love Everton or hate them ) and sometimes lash out needlessly when others are only putting their point of view across.

28 Aug 2017 08:08:28
No need at all to apologise mate it's banter. 👍.

27 Aug 2017 12:44:01
Oh my god. Koeman has gone a back 3. I'm sure last season we went with the same formation and got flogged at Chelsea.

27 Aug 2017 12:03:16
Dont understand how people can say they don't won't costa or vardy the 2 if them are goal machines i'd take any of them in a heart beat costa would be my first choice he scores goals for fun and would be an ideal replacement for lukaku hope is true about thw both of them 👍🏻.

27 Aug 2017 12:53:18
If he was long term yes. However, he wants to go back to Spain in January. We will need to buy again then and that is not so easy. Plus it will take him 6 weeks at least to get fit and more to gel with the team. Think long term.

27 Aug 2017 02:37:25
Plenty of Vardy rumours and i'd take him although he is not a target man. His pace in behind is blistering. However i would take a look at the teams really struggling as i'm sure there's 2 target men i think would realise their own teams won't be doing anything this season. Opinions divided but an out and out target man is Benteke . Say what you want but not many better in the air as we have found out to our cost in the past. Second choice at a poor team and although not strictly a target man, i think Antonio at west ham could be a very shrewd move. Anyway let's start with a bit of revenge at the bridge today. NSNO.

27 Aug 2017 05:45:18
Vardy very poor against Man utd yesterday, if we are going to spend money on a striker i for one would prefer it to be a target man in the mould of giroud, someone to bring the rest of guys into the game in the last third.

27 Aug 2017 08:17:28
Just sitting outside my sun soaked apartment in fornells menorca reading that we're readying a 40 mill bid for varying well that would cap of a perfect week for me.

27 Aug 2017 08:38:31
Haha vardy not varying.

27 Aug 2017 08:54:33
I know he's been mentioned before, what about a punt on Deeney? Experience, big, powerful good in the air can hold the ball up and would get around 10 goals plus a season in a good side. Thoughts lads and lasses.

27 Aug 2017 10:23:40
Deeney is awful. For me, Benteke but I think he would cost a lot, around 40 mill mark.