Everton Banter Archive February 27 2018

27 Feb 2018 20:58:18
To accommodate a winter break, I would like the following (but I'm pretty sure most clubs and many fans - and the broadcasters - wouldn't agree) :
All league cup matches - except the final - to be midweek (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday? ) with no replays and the final held at Wembley immediately before the winter break. Semi-finals to be held at neutral venues, but not Wembley.
All FA cup matches - except the 3rd round (which is iconic) and the final - to be midweek with no replays. The 3rd round on the weekend immediately after the winter break. The final held at Wembley on the weekend immediately after the end of the PL season. Semi-finals to be held at neutral venues, but not Wembley.
Premier League matches to be scheduled for weekends (Friday through Monday because of television) with few (preferably none) to be midweek.
Boxing Day and New Years Day fixtures to remain, but would be held on those days instead of the weekend closest to them.
Other bank holidays are at "weekends" (Mondays - or Good Friday) , so PL matches would be considered "weekend" PL fixtures if played on those days.
I appreciate that midweek matches are required for lower-tier clubs, as they have 46 matches to fit in, but most aren't likely to be playing in the later rounds so could have scheduled league fixtures instead.
The mid-season PL transfer window to coincide with the PL winter break.
The Europa League matches would stay on Thursdays, while Tuesdays and Wednesdays are for Champions League matches.
The length of the winter break is a moot point, but the current proposal - 5 PL matches on one weekend and the other 5 the following weekend so that each club gets about a 2 week break - seems a reasonable way forward for the time being.
Bottom line, I'm afraid, is that broadcasters demand live football throughout the week and the clubs can't exist exist without the broadcasters' money.

27 Feb 2018 21:13:00
That will take all the magic out of the cups for anyone but prem teams Bobby.

27 Feb 2018 22:12:03
"Bottom line, I'm afraid, is that broadcasters demand live football throughout the week and the clubs can't exist exist without the broadcasters' money. "

I wonder if the fans stopped going Bobby, how long would it be before the broadcasters pulled out due to poor atmosphere in the grounds, putting TV viewers off watching and, cancelling their sports packages?

It used to be a working mans sport. Now only the wealthy can go or those prepared to give up things in life to afford it. I would certainly agree to reducing the amount of matches and having an xmas / winter break.

28 Feb 2018 18:35:03
The Winter break being discussed is in February. Logic dictates that the break should be along with the majority of other workers and that is over the Christmas Break, but of course that cannot ever happen, money as always rules.

27 Feb 2018 18:01:59
Just a thought on Premier League experience. Martinez, Koeman and SA all had Premier League experience and it never really did us any good. Whereas Morinho, Guardiola, Klopp and Konte seem to have done alright without having any when they came from other leagues.

27 Feb 2018 18:45:32
Miss the point of Prem Experience we need, winning eperience. Those you mentioned only experienced lower Prem Experience.

27 Feb 2018 20:14:00
Does that include Ranieri, Howie?

27 Feb 2018 20:27:07
Spot in Howie. Winning experience whether they’ve worked in the Premier or not.

28 Feb 2018 07:30:21
thats why i want marcelo gallardo man has won something with every team he has played for/ managed born winner and would accept nothing less.

27 Feb 2018 16:52:27
As much as I like the idea of getting someone like Fonseca as our next manager. I can't help feeling if he was a success he would get snapped up by the Spanish boys, or dare I say it, one of those in the top four.
Given that I can see why Eddie Howe would look a better option for the long term. Could easily see him doing a Moyes type tenure. Which long term could be exactly what the club needs.
Probably worth mentioning that he does have Premiership experience too.

27 Feb 2018 17:29:19
If Fonseca got us in the CL in two or three years then got snapped up by Barcelona or whoever, I could live with that mate. Then when we get a higher profile we might be able to attract a top manager who want to stay long term.

27 Feb 2018 17:51:54
I don’t want a Moyes Everton again. I know it’s better than now but it’s still limited. We need an experienced DOF and a manager who will not fear playing against the top 4.

27 Feb 2018 18:06:45
Well said mate.

27 Feb 2018 18:13:34
If we did get him in and, after a few years, he gets targeted by the big clubs like Barcelona then surely that is a good thing for us? Mainly because it would mean he is doing something right and that we would have benefited as a club. It would also mean his replacement would have a better platform to build on than what we currently have. But, let's be honest, it was only a few years ago that RM was touted as a manager for the likes of Arsenal and Barcelona and look how that turned out!

27 Feb 2018 18:21:11
WB, why would any top manager take the poison chalice that is Everton FC, since 1987 we have been extremely poor bar one season, the only man we'll get is someone with the same mindset as Koeman. we are a stepping stone, we haven't been a top club since we sold our crown jewels after 1987. just wish you dreamers would get your heads around this. get real, there's a great big Red Shadow over Everton, and we will never catch up, financially attractiveness for players or anything else Morishi is a sad dream.

27 Feb 2018 18:34:47
Game of opinions mate and I don't agree with yours, how you can say Mr Moshiri is a sad dream is beyond me.

27 Feb 2018 18:41:53
SM believe it or not there are good managers out there looking for a challenge. As for the Moyes anallergy, I was using it as an example of how it brings stability to the club. I was not asking for another Moyes. Get your head out your backsides and consider what is being said before giving a negative answer.
By the way we are not a poison chalice, we are a club with massive potential, and the finance to back it. Makes us a very attractive propersition.

27 Feb 2018 19:00:35
You are right Woburn mate we are attractive, why are we getting this toxic stuff again from some posters it has no place on here.

27 Feb 2018 19:12:28
15 years ago City fans may of thought like you Smokes.

Football is a funny old game. The top 6 is not a smoke dream and success could be just around the corner. We as a club must learn from our mistakes but I back them to do it.

27 Feb 2018 19:32:39
So do I mate.

27 Feb 2018 19:41:15
I bet it's a right laugh round yours at Xmas smokeandmirrors.

27 Feb 2018 19:45:13
BJU guess what?

I agree with you lol.

27 Feb 2018 21:45:02
😂😁 we agree on loads of things Grumpy. The biggest thing? Hope and vision for our great club😉.

27 Feb 2018 22:21:27
You're right mate, you're right.

27 Feb 2018 22:47:54
We need an experienced knowledgable football person as DoF and that would be Hoddle but as others have mentioned he has other irons in the fire at the moment. That said and as I have mentioned before, Moshri could do far worse than to throw some cash Hoddles way as a consultant.

27 Feb 2018 16:18:48
Finding it difficult to believe the support for Howe. On the basis we need someone the players will really respect and know they have good pedigree as to Form, winning, Trophy winner, Experience in Transfers, tactics, style of play. Man management. can't think of any of this applies to Howe bar possibly style of play, but even then he never learns to adapt when it doesn't work.

27 Feb 2018 16:34:12
Someone like Koeman then.

27 Feb 2018 16:56:15
Guys done his apprentiship, needs to move to the next level now.
Even the best managers had to start somewhere mate.

27 Feb 2018 18:15:04
Didn't Howe leave a club in the north to return to Bournemouth due to being homesick a good few years ago?

27 Feb 2018 19:13:57
Wasn't it Burnley?

27 Feb 2018 14:48:03
Hey Ed 025 interesting reports coming out mate on how Mr Moshiri has been taken for a ride re footballing decisisions by our powers that be t Everton, it quotes as saying he has spent over £277 million on 18 players and we have our worst team ever, surely questions need to be asked and some heads roll over this, we all keep blaming the manager but the players have to take some blame for this predicament.

{Ed025's Note - the players the managers and the DOF for me GB, they are all to blame mate..

27 Feb 2018 15:15:44
Your right there Ed mate, just hope something is done about it in the summer mate.

27 Feb 2018 15:28:50
Good post GB mate and you are spot on ED025 nice to see a broader picture being painted here.

27 Feb 2018 22:53:40
Present DoF is way way beyond his pay grade, a huge stride to far. It should not happen again, get some good football brains around you Mr Moshri and listen for Gods sake.

27 Feb 2018 23:06:52
We've got to learn and Moshiri needs to take a more business like approach. That is to identify the weak links.

I don't know who these are but Walsh and his advisors are surely the place to start but I'm an outsider looking in.

Agree though everyone has a share of the blame. Believe it or not I don't think Sam is to blame at all though. To be fair to him he's come in to do a job and the board must know what they're getting. We did as supporters.

I get frustrated with him as I have an opposite belief in how football is played. Doesn't make me any better than him though. It's board or Walsh or all of them that should have understood us as a club and tradition.

Maybe the next decisions they will get right. Whether that's players, a DOF or manager. Fingers crossed.

27 Feb 2018 09:34:30
I have watched with interest how well Michael Arteta has done at Manchester City. I like Pep's total football philosophy, but you have to have the players to implement it. henc past support fromme for John Stones. and yes I know he still has mistakes in him. but seeing as people seem to want more football than is currently being served up. how about Arteta as manager? He speaks about 101 lamguages and I am sure that is one reason he is in his role and that City have so many international players from different countris who can all seem to communicate. How about it Blues . what do you think? I think it would be a gamble and he might be expecting a bigger role ata Champions League club. but hee is an exceptionally intelligent bloke (qualified barister I believe) and like I say. so many languages and look at City. He must have learned a bit.

27 Feb 2018 11:04:59
I’d have him in a heart beat. He was a wonderful player for us and a true gent when he left. He’s worked alongside the best and that can only be a good thing. As long as we have a capable DOF to support him then why not.

27 Feb 2018 12:00:44
I will back you to the hilt with that one Degsy. He's an Everton man who will understand the club inside out.

Brilliant shout! 😉.

27 Feb 2018 12:38:57
I agree gents. Only issue is lack of management experience but everyone got to start somewhere.

27 Feb 2018 12:46:16
Better act fast. According to reports Arsenal are after him.

27 Feb 2018 13:36:33
I like the idea, but can't help think it would be a massive risk.
Imagine him trying to teach Williams, keane and Martina total football.

27 Feb 2018 13:52:28
You are right there Smit mate we need a proven manager if we are going to climb the heights of Mr Moshiri, s vision.

27 Feb 2018 14:27:03
He is a number 2 at city and in a comfortable position, not many make the transition to a Manager in the premier league, he needs like Unsworth to work his way to a top position.
We need an experienced manager not just a fire fighter or a caretaker but someone that can succeed and build the club.
This is where and I am sure the search is already on, the board must get good advice. I also like so many believe SW needs to go, I cannot see a real positive influence on our recruitment, it was just a job to big for him!

27 Feb 2018 14:41:26
Absolutely mate, Arteta would need to start in the lower leagues.

28 Feb 2018 07:38:42
why? why does he have to be good with oldham to be good in the prem? i bet jose pep and the likes would struggle in lower leagues as its a different game.

27 Feb 2018 07:31:41
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 27th February 2018

26 Feb 2018 23:26:39
1 goal and 1 assist for Lookman in two games and earning plenty of praise. I just hope we get to see him in a blue shirt again.

27 Feb 2018 06:17:14
I think we have two chances: Slim Chance and No Chance and Slim is on his way out of town.

27 Feb 2018 06:32:56
Should have three games but I hope not Glennk. I think he's going to be some player mate.

27 Feb 2018 08:50:55
he will be starting next season and this loan was best thing for him, we will see the rewards next year.