Everton Banter Archive May 28 2013

28 May 2013 23:22:14
Many fans (the majority?) don't seem to want Martinez, and as we have seen with the crest fiasco, the club does listen (eventually) to the fans. More importantly, rumour is the players don't want him. This is more worrying. The minute the players start acting like John Terry, then that is bad news for Everton FC. Tim Howard has already made ominous noises about what a close knit group the players are. Players know nothing about what's best for a football club, but we all know they can make or break a manager. I feel sorry for Martinez if he gets the job. He'll need all the support he can get, but I doubt he'll get it.

The majority you say! Just because a few vocal ones post on here doesn't mean the majority of Everton's thousands of fans don't want Martinez. I respect your opinion, but no one can possibly know the views of the majority of the fans for sure - and certainly not based on the views of the minority who post on this and other forums.
RhinoSoreAss

29 May 2013 09:44:54
Er Rhino are you new to this site if you know your history of 'Everton Rumours, Banter' top man is VP. CHeck through if you don't believe me.

28 May 2013 22:55:54
Man utd finish 26 points above us moyes goes to them we finish 26 points above wigan Martinez comes to us. 2 teams finish below wigan we finish 6th the 2nd and 6th letters of maritinezs first name are ot which means nothing just thought I'd say {Ed025's Note - you need to get out more mate.. :)

I don't understand the second sentence.

28 May 2013 22:29:51
with all the negativity on here about martinez and I admit I am the same he wasnt my first choice or 2nd or 3rd!
but I found the following piece from a article lightened my mood on him a bit to think maybe its not all doom and gloom

He brings beautiful possession football and tactical flexibility to the table, making every game he takes charge of an enthralling watch.

It's arguable that his tactics were too advanced for a mediocre Wigan squad, and it led to defensive mistakes, but that won't be an issue at Everton considering their stellar roster.

Many fans have pondered whether the Toffees could switch to a three-man defence to release Leighton Baines and Seamus Coleman, and Martinez is the man who can make that happen.

There would be no more protecting one-goal leads, and above all Martinez would be a long-term project in the same mould of Moyes' reign.

He's young, he's hungry and he shows more loyalty than most in football.

The Mirror clocked Vitor Pereira as the favourite for the job last week but he's a big, big risk. Bill Kenwright would be wiser to stick with the English Premier League-proven manager who also carries a little European flair.

29 May 2013 09:47:59
Yer let's stick with Premier league proven manager!
Are you having a laugh?

28 May 2013 21:45:05
The latest club statement about the crest is bitter sweet for me. While they have acknowledged that they could have done more to involve the fans, the fact remains that they made this huge change in the first place. I don't want to sound negative but if they can't get a simple decision like this right then what else are they going to do.
Come on Everton please think about decisions more clearly in future as even the smallest ones can have massive repercussions.

Wish ya'd all get over it ffs. Get out yer History book and have a look at a photo of the Greatest team of all 1969-70, might make this badge malaky, make ya think twice before moaning.

Argue all you like about the history of the badge/crest and the changes over the years - the bone of contention this time is that the club claimed to have consulted widely, which they've now admitted they clearly didn't do. Their statement says they'll consult more effectively for any changes the season after next.
RhinoSoreAss

28 May 2013 21:43:25
not a rumour or anything just thinking don't u think its a disastrous move by the club over the new crest as they've said there going to change it again 2014/15r
who on gods earth would buy any kits/training tops etc this coming new season knowing the badge will change again the year after?
could be a dissaster low sales wise {Ed025's Note - they may well end up collectors items, as someone said before...you can bet your life someone will buy them..

The shirts all change every season and that doesn't stop people buying them

Hmmm might get one for ebay in a few years lol {Ed025's Note - very astute of you...you budding entrepreneur...

28 May 2013 21:22:37
personally I think our summer is this-

outs-
david moyes free
marouane fellaini 25m
johnny heitinga 5m
magaye gueye 2m
phil neville free
nikici jelavic 6m
ins-
roberto martinez 2m
roberto soldado 10m
keusuki honda 2m
callum mcmanaman 5m
leroy fer 8m
dragovic 2m

squad-

manager - martinez

gk-howard
rb-coleman
cb-jagielka
cb-distin
lb-baines
rm-mcmanaman
cm-fer/gibson (knee surgery)
cm-honda
lm-baines
cf-mirallas
st-soldado

subs-
anichebe
barkley
gibson
osman
dragovic
mucha

thoughts ed?
pw efc {Ed025's Note - would do me mate..

So martinez would sign moyes's planned target if he had stayed?

Why are we duplicating baines {Ed025's Note - hes worth 2 players.. :)

Everon scouts would obviously be talking to martinez about leroy
pw efc

I'm sorry but Pienaar has to still be in that starting line up.

28 May 2013 20:53:11
IMHO the key thing in a team's success (i. e. win ratio) is the quality of the players and how they gel into a team. The manager - no matter how messianic some suggested names might be regarded by sections of fans - can only work with the players available to him.
Remember our most successful manager's (Howard Kendall) first period in charge. The first few years (1981 to early 1984) weren't great, but we were successful once he'd brought in better players and got them working as a good team (1984 to 1987).
In his second period (1990 to 1993) the players weren't as good (so many of the good mid-1980s players had moved on) and he wasn't as successful. He left because he wasn't allowed to bring in a player (Dion Dublin) he thought would improve the team.
By the time of his third period (1997-1998) too many players weren't good enough and he did well to avoid relegation.
My point is that Roberto Martinez will have better players - especially defenders - at Everton and they have been a decent team for a while now. His challenge will be to rejuvenate the ageing squad by bringing through our young talent and making judicious incoming transfers while developing an attacking, expansive, progressive - and winning (!) - playing style. Oh for the Everton team to prove they really deserve to be called the "school of science".

28 May 2013 20:16:24
Looks like Martinez then.
I have a feeling Gibson may be replaced by McCarthy/McArthur. With Gibson getting an op, he will be fully fit next season and he was so consistent at the end of the season with an injury, would prefer Gibson.
Think he will bring McMannaman back as well,
What do you reckon Eds? {Ed025's Note - i dont think he will bring many from wigan prejj..

28 May 2013 21:02:20
If he brings in McCarthy and I hope he does it will be to replace osman not gibson i'd also have mcmanaman and maloney if maloney could avoid his reaccuring injury problems and was 4 years younger

28 May 2013 20:07:02
although RM is going to be speaking to BK does not mean he will be our new manager ( although he gets my vote). Its whether they get on with each other and they can agree a realistic target for the future.
I am sure BK has interviewed other candidates, not just from within and who knows he may have others to speak to. I think there will be a shortlist and therefore we may not get an answer till later in the week.
i know BK has been criticised but I am glad he is taking his time in order to get the right man.
Exciting times ahead me thinks

I have to agree rushed decision is not what is needed over something so important as a manager.

SA90

28 May 2013 19:59:16
Ok. For those who aren't overly keen on having Martinez as manager, there is an online petition for Vitor Pereira to be made manager on change. org
Im not saying I wouldn't back Martinez, but while there's still chance, no matter how small, let's get our voices heard and sign it!
TEAM PEREIRA!

Blue Dazzle

Yeah and we should have another petition to make messi our next signing, let's make our voices heard, TEAM MESSI! saddo get a life

28 May 2013 19:38:51
anyone else think we should go in for Kevin De Bruyne? seen a lot of him and been nothing but impressed and apparently he will be available for around 2mil. Him + Lukaku for Fellaini wouldn't be too bad.

We need a manager first

28 May 2013 20:56:46
In your dreams! Lukaku had a great season and they payed 18m for him plus his age so he's probably worth about 27m now and de bruyne played well too plus his age and the huge influx of belgians he's probably worth 22m so 49m for fellaini is stupid and chelsea would be personic to accept that I think de bruyne plus 8m is a bit more realistic

28 May 2013 19:19:09
Could of been worse. Hughes'oneil'pulis'stop moaning and get behind martinez if he comes he will be more attack minded than moyes and we have better defenders than Wigan. ryan

28 May 2013 19:17:39
Can I just say fellow evertonians, Martinez is the manager that started all that pretty football at Swansea. Brenda get's all the credit, what a joke! Yes there are doubters out there, but if he does come to our beloved club, he will inherit a better squad of players than he had at Wigan! Give credit where it's due, Whelan has advised him that we are a well run family club and it would be a top job for him. COYB

28 May 2013 19:16:28
know the way you get to the end of a rollercoaster ride and you can breathe easy again, well I think we all got caught up on the Vitor Pereira rollercoaster and it was exciting while it lasted, well we seem to be coming to the end of the ride, but, all good rollercoasters have a twist right at the end!!! And I hope it`s old Vito because I`ve got £15. 00 on him at 33`s. C`mon Bill do the right thing. I love this great club and will fall in behind whoever is appointed. NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM.

28 May 2013 19:04:37
don't know how true this is, I've just been told the club has issued an apology regarding the badge, and that the design will only be used for this season. {Ed025's Note - they have mate..

28 May 2013 18:50:02
have a funny feeling with rm we could be like sunderland with m o'neil good start then it all falls apart

1878Blue

28 May 2013 18:30:24
Evertons badge changing next season whoopee

28 May 2013 18:23:14
MARTINEZ says he leaving wigan because he feels he can't get wigan back up,,,,,,, but he can get the everton job. hillarious!!
god help everton if he gets job
be fighting relegation soon

FFS this is pissing me off now we will NOT be fighting relegation under Martinez because he is a good tactician and a good manager, we could do a lot worse and I'm certain that he is the man to take us forward. Heard of that guy Jurgen Klopp? Well he was relegated once.

Well said second poster.

BitterBlue

Great tactician? Most goals conceded this season. Wigan 73.
Played 38
Wins % 24%
Draws % 24%
Losses % 53%

A record that should fill us all with fear!!

28 May 2013 21:11:03
Really? Your comparing emerson boyce and ivan ramis to leighton baines and phil jagielka? Grow up mate he outwitted moyes in the fa cup he outwitted mancini in the fa cup and I for one am excited if he gets the job

28 May 2013 18:19:22
Everton have apologised for the shambles that is the new badge on the official website. They have apologised for not consulting the fans like they claim and have said they will redesign the badge again for next season with far larger fan input, however, it's too late for them to change it for this season due to the merchandise already being created.

28 May 2013 18:02:42
Martinez for manager!

But please let it be Porto or Malaga :0)

Hope we get him tbh

28 May 2013 17:57:57
VP=too much of a risk for kenwright. Not to much of a risk for most of us but then again we aren't chairmen.
RM=safe bet in terms of premiership experience, safe bet in terms of style of football he try's to play.
If we keep the same squad + a couple signings + barkley/green, etc. We will be fine and in all probability better off than we are currently. If he's appointed he'll be working with a better standard of player, especially defenders which seems to be most peoples concern, his teams ability to defend. His Wigan back four would struggle to get a game for Fleetwood town. People should chill out and IF he's appointed sit back and enjoy us playing two up front at home to Norwich.

Why do we want or need players from wigan. they went down. they play at their level let's leave them there.

Wigan back THREE you mean

28 May 2013 17:44:08
give the man a chance. could be the best thing that has happend to us for years chill out people//

Totally agree

28 May 2013 17:36:59
Wigans official statement below regarding Roberto Martinez

Wigan Athletic can confirm that following an approach made by another football club, permission has been given to Roberto Martinez to discuss a vacant managerial position.

After discussions between Roberto and Chairman Dave Whelan, it was reluctantly agreed that Roberto, who remains the Manager of Wigan Athletic, would be allowed to speak another club.

There is no further comment to be made at this point.

28 May 2013 17:28:09
Team under Martinez:

--------------Howard--------------------Coleman-Jagielka-Distin-Baines---
-McManaman-Gibson-McCarthy-Pienaar--------------Jelavic Mirallas-----------------
-Thoughts?

Bit messed up that ed, sorry.

Swap McManaman with Dries Mertens and that's one hell of a team.

BitterBlue

I think he will play 3central defenders with Coleman and. Baines as wing backs

28 May 2013 18:31:19
think we could add a few more transfer targets into that team as I doubt if and when fellaini is sold, the money provided would only cover the cost of mccarthy and mcmanaman to us. how about a centre back, a midfield general like fer, and a striker like soldado. surely we have a budget for rm to work with when he comes to us. although we are due to sign the wigan manager, our transfer targets surly should not just stop there. CraigHuytonBlue

And where's Caldwell and Scharner?

So the team we have now but with 2 relegated wigan players

Hopefully RM (if he comes) will bring in a top class striker and not just someone like di Santo

28 May 2013 17:14:27
I've got to say i'm not overly impressed to be getting Martinez (probably) as the new manager. However, it could be a damn site worse, it could be Hughes or Lennon. Every cloud has a silver lining.

28 May 2013 17:21:36
Ha ha, imagine one of those two Lee, that would be bad mate

Degsy

28 May 2013 17:10:34
Go Martinez. Attractive football awaits us. Markyg

28 May 2013 17:08:27
Lets be honest a lot of people had there heart on vp. Probably not going to happen now. But listen. He's won more that DMdid in last 11 years. He's had a lot of injuries at Wigan last season. He will have better quality of players at everton. He's got a good eye for players. Hope he brings a few Wigan ones with him. So lads let's get behind him let's be positive. It's not like everton to knock someone before they have tried. So let's get behind him and welcome him into our family.

28 May 2013 16:53:04
Be ready for devastation at my beloved club.

His SP will be

Make money in the transfer market,

Reduce our wage bill by 20 million

Don't argue with the board

Keep talking hard luck stories

Use as many kids as you can, without being full time professionals

Get loan players

Make sure you have 42 points by the start of may.

If you do all this, there is a million bonus in it for you.

Don't worry about the flak you get off the supporters, I will back you all the way, and I've got special TEFLON coated ear plugs just in case you want to lend them.

Signed. Bill K and the board. {Ed025's Note - thats what we want!...a bit of positivity..

Positivity. don't make me laugh, FOR THE FIST TIME IN OUR HISTORY WE HAVE GONE FOR A RELEGATION MANAGER. what's there to be positive about?

I will remortgage my house and put the money on we don't finish above the REDS {Ed025's Note - thats a big shout biffy..

28 May 2013 17:06:06
But at least we won't get battered at home by Wigan.

Sad, sad man.
Look on the bright side we may at least have a new manager. Now for a new owner?

Who do you want as the manager then Biffy?

Alastair

Someone who will keep us around the 60 point mark in April, with a chance of Champions league.

But for that to happen we need a bigger squad, not lose any key players, and play more attacking football.

We will lose key players, we will lose 20 points, on this season, and we will play defensive football. remember this guys win record. says it all.

Martinez is a ready made replacement for DM as far as BK is concerned.

I actually think RM could do a dam good job for us. Having seen a lot of the names linked, it could be a lot worse.

Hank

28 May 2013 16:36:34
Anybody know how the on-line petition is going? {Ed025's Note - 20,000 up to now..

28 May 2013 16:11:46
I'm not saying martinez is a bad manager by any means, but does anyone think he will actually get us into the champions league spots within the next 3 years?

I feel we need a manager who could do this because this is the best team we've had in a long time, I'm not too sure martinez could improve us imo what about you eds? And fellow posters?



Ryan {Ed025's Note - im not sure with our finances, that anyone could ryan

He is not my own first choice, but, as other posters say we could have ended up with Hughes, O'Neil, Lennon or someone equally as useless. How well he does only time will tell, but like I am sure the majority of our supporters will I will get behind him 100% if the man can instil an attacking mentality with the quality of players we have, who knows what can be achieved?

Great point Ed, we want top 4 we need a serious load of cash. Simples!

28 May 2013 15:50:11
I really don't understand the bad feeling towards Martinez, or the love for Pereira. What we need is a bit of stability, from a manager that plays good football and knows how to get the best from a stretched budget.

Martinez got relegated - ok, but have you seen his wage bill? Its 38m compared to our 63m. He's worked wonders in the prem in recent years, its the boards fault that their commercial and matchday revenue are nonexistent, not his.

If we get Martinez, you can bet he'll stick with us for at least 4-5 years and keep building the squad, albeit with a better style on the pitch. If we got Pereira he's either bomb and get sacked, or would do really well and go somewhere more prestigious.

People need to get real.

Couldn't agree more lad, well said

Yeah well said Stevo. Martinez did well to keep Wigan in the league that length of time. He's young, plays attractive football and is fairly loyal. And he has won a cup more than DM managed in 11 years. Pereira managed Porto to two league titles, which looking at the standard of the other teams in Portugal (Excluding Benfica), probably wasn't very difficult. I would imagine a lot of people had never heard of him until the bookies and media linked him to the job. Some people will never be happy regardless who we appoint.

Alastair

28 May 2013 15:44:52
I was one of those shouting for Rafa or VP. But it seems likely Martinez is en route to Goodison. He will get my full support. Wouldn't mind Kone coming with him.

28 May 2013 16:16:42
Not Kone mate, poor poor player for me, laziest striker ever, would make Le Tiss look active

Get the three M's in

Degsy

Anyd you would know Kone is lazy. How exactly?, my son is a Wigan fan and I go there from time to time. I've seen Kone about a dozen times this season. Apart from when he completley bullied both Distin and Heitinga in the FA Cup and the DW he works his socks off and can play. With our limited resources he would be a great signing.

28 May 2013 15:30:26
If its RM let's get behind him and show him some support. Given a proven solid regular defence he may well surprise us all.

Peolpe slagged DM off enough times for being negative at least we may have an attacking minded manager who will be willing to take the game to the opposition.

He may even get the strikers scoring again and if he does; well who knows?

DBEFC

28 May 2013 15:24:03
Been posting plenty today, eyes fixed on tv News. off school for the week. Personally I'm happy that it looks as if Martinez will be the next manager.

However, I do know that many of you aren't, but let's face it, there was never going to be an appointment that everyone was happy with.

So, whether it be Martinez or someone else who will take charge, let's get behind him and not be like those Chelsea fans. they only made it harder for there team to succeed.

Everton 'til I die.

28 May 2013 15:19:26
We want Martinez I said we want Martinez. We want Martinez I said we want Martinez

No we don't anonymous poster!

JawannaToffee {Ed025's Note - speak for yourself mate....jawanna be a bit more positive..

Ed025:

Maybe it's a case of some people just don't relish the thought of a freshly relegated manager coming here like he has just been marvelously successful in the league, so not everyone is doing cartwheels here.

I think the pro-RM camp should respect these opinions a little bit more!

Just sayin like. {Ed025's Note - and thats fair enough 247, no guy is going to be everyones choice...but is there any need to say we are going to get relegated, or become a laughing stock?..im just saying if he does get the job, then cut him some slack, and support the guy..we should be looking forward to a new era, not wallowing in self pity thats all...come on guys, he has not even got the job and some are already writing him off..

Ooooh, Ed stepping it up. :D

Who then jawanna who do you want because if your going to say laudrup who we can't afford or pereira who isn't coming who else come on then tell us mr man of the people

Ed025:

Personally I would not recommend any prediction of his (if he gets the job) performance negative or positive!

I would recommend however that we as concerned fans express our concerns as loud as possible.

The reason being that (again if he gets the job) RM will be aware of them and hopefully give them the consideration that they deserve.

Still just sayin like ;)

28 May 2013 15:13:53
Ed who do you think we will get as manager? {Ed025's Note - i think martinez is a good guess..

28 May 2013 15:09:38
it has just been reported that Malaga are reported to be interesting in taking Roberto Martinez to Spain and Everton will now look to Celtic manager Neil Lennon who has his odds slashed and is now the fav {Ed025's Note - lennon is 16/1 you liar...so have a bet on it big shot!..

28 May 2013 14:54:51
cast your minds back to when LFC were looking for a repacement for Kenny. Who was first choice? Who spoke to them and then turned them down? {Ed025's Note - hmmm...let me think!..

Martinez was never offered this kob. FACT. Do you seriously think if he was then he would have stayed at Wigan

28 May 2013 14:34:49
If Martinez does sign, it will be purely because the board can't afford to remove the IMWT sign at Goodison. and then It'll be In Martinez We Trust (good joke right?). But he is a good manager and I hope he does well with us. COYB!

QB {Ed025's Note - not too sure on the good joke bit QB..

There is no sign that has 'imwt', there is a sign that says 'in moyes we trust' so it would need changing anyway

28 May 2013 14:15:25
Eds do you guys find it theraputic to read all of this stuff. or do feel that you provide the therapy and as a consequence need to find oustide assistance for your own mental well being. the negativity that's posted on here sometimes is incrediable. how do you guys do it! We should smile and say "we are everton" and that's that. we don't need to call ourselves relegation fodder. we can leave that to the sad tappers across the park! jlaff {Ed025's Note - i just keep smiling, and thank the lord im not a red..

I was wondering the same thing, ed 025 I take my hat of to you sir
Uncle Ben

28 May 2013 14:11:16
Everyone is saying Martinez isn't good enough for us but seriously look at the job he has done at Wigan! He has kept them up for many seasons and all of them seasons he hasn't had one world class player, he has got them playing some really good football so it will be even better with the players we have, I don't care what manager we get we our still everton and maybe the crest has changed but guess what WE ARE STILL EVERTON. Hope we have another good season and push for either a trophy or top 4

28 May 2013 14:26:18
Dosent kenwright ever listen to the fans? We said we want pereira why don't go for pereira kenwright?

28 May 2013 14:24:57
Whichever it is. Martinez or Periera i'm getting behind em 110%. just a thought. Periera and Martinez joint managers. stops the arguing lol

28 May 2013 14:08:25
Don't know why everyone is being so negative about Martinez, his defence was shocking at Wigan not his tactics. With Jags and Distin at the bag he won't have the problems he did there. I say we give the guy a chance, he turned Liverpool down, that alone makes him a legend in my eyes!

MikeBlue {Ed025's Note - me too mike..

Plus we have stubbs and weir at the club to help him out with the defence

Aggree spot on

28 May 2013 14:01:59
has the second favourite Pereira at 14/1
The clear favourite Martinez down to 4/11

Think what you wish folks, its Martinez, time to get behind him, hope he proves a lot of us wrong, he's obviously got something about him for us and Liverpool to be after him in the space of 2 years

I think we all had our heads turned by Pereira and before his name got thrown around we were all shouting for Martinez, he's probably the best we could of got with the current lack of managers around

Its the relegation issue that has put many of us off a bit, me included

Alex {Ed025's Note - he is very sought after alex..not ours yet, but we could certainly do worse mate..

I guess you're right ed, hope we can keep Malaga away, couldn't see him going to Stoke.
I'd like to think we were the most exciting proposition for him

Alex

28 May 2013 13:02:55
We as Everton supporters have certainly been through the mill over the years. I am old enough to have enjoyed the glory years of the mid 80`s when Merseyside housed two football giants slugging it out year on year for league and cup glory. This is why we feel so aggrieved and dissapointed when the heirarchy of the club seem totally inept and devoid of ideas and imagination, even a lack of professionalism when it comes to conducting our business as a major English Premier league Club. I`m utterly sick of pundits and other managers condescending comments of how we have been punching above our weight for years and haven`t they done well on such a limited budget. Bill kenwright can be described as an Everton fan and I for one believe he truely is, but therein also lies a fundamental problem, I think he is unable to be ruthless enough in a business environment whereby he can identfy a situation and cold heartedly execute a plan of action resulting in the best/most favourable outcome for the club. E. g. We are told everything is hush hush at present because things have to be done the right way, we want to get the right man, don`t want to rush into things, Need to be sure. etc. etc. etc. BOLLOX
Manchester United showed absolute disregard for the integrity of our club, our fans and our history when they appointed, (and made known to the world) David Moyes to the job of Utd manager, but am I being too romantic in the notion that surely they should have done things properly, they should have waited until we had played out our season, they should have shown some respect towards our Club in all of this? Utd showed good business strategy, identify the need and fulfill the requirement, regardless of whose toes get trampled. Swift and descisive. We want transparency, we want information, we all want what's best, We saw Bill applauding moyes with tears in his eyes, genuine sadness, we know he has a heart and we know he loves Everton, can we also see some steely boardroom maneovers for the benefit of the club and all of us who love it so.

Well said mate, I've been pondering all day about posting something similar regarding the club's inability to make cut throat business decisions. Thanks for saving me the trouble.

I kinda agree with what your saying but Utd have a whole legal team to get them off in situations when foul play is mentioned. and even if there legal team fails they have the money to pay whatever small fine is given to them.

We do not have these resources and have to do our business the correct way.

one thing that get's me going is people say that if we do find a new owner they don't want us to turn into a city or chelsea! half of our 85 euro cup team was bought within 2-3 years of that win. I say bring that on again

28 May 2013 12:12:47
Says it all about the bitters when a relegated manager keeps them waiting for better offers ha ha {Ed025's Note - a relegated manager who your club courted for 2 months, before he declined..as it would have been a step down...now back to your 2nd best club on merseyside (sorry tranmere fans) and ask your carer if you can watch re-runs of when you were a big club on the history channel..

Well said ed025

And it says it all about you lot when you come onto our sites because you have nothing else to do but look at our site

1878barlow

28 May 2013 13:40:00
Love it ed although I love the way they call us bitter even though they come on OUR site and slate us and if we do get martinez all the better it shows the power on merseyside has changed as he rejected youse and joined us now go pack your bags kopite plane to norway leaves at 2:00pm!

And You get a manager who was not good enough for reading or Watford oh how the mighty have fallen concentrate on your own team and you call us bitter but at least if we do have a bad season you may finish 6th because we could use your phrase that got used so much last season as an excuse "transition" transition my arse! Stefc

Didnt martinez say no, to the reds {Ed025's Note - yes he did..

28 May 2013 15:28:24
Isnt it amazing. I remember not so long ago when the club across the park were on the brink of financial collapse (thats not an exaggeration). and they were up in arms, moaning and crying. they got rid of laurel and hardy and they dug out a relic (great player and good manager, but had his time years ago) to try and appease the fans. He bought 50m pound of drivel (apart from eore of course), he gets sacked then they get in big brenda and all of a sudden they are the dogs again and everything is rosey.

Unlike you lot my friend we stay with our team through thick and thin (despite the digs and complaints on here), we've even stud shoulder to shoulder with you guys in a number of instances (some of us in agreement about Laurel and hardy. I was one of the said allies on that one). that's what commoradre is all about. But tools like you are unable to understand and reciprocate the kind of spirit me and rest of the "bitters" demonstrate continuously. have a nice day:-) jlafff

28 May 2013 11:35:08
I'm not usually the type to make stupid statements like this, and it annoys me when I see them, but I want Kenwright out. If you can't get VP, the man everyone wants, then that's understandable, but if you can't persuade Martinez, a man who has just been relegated - and manages WIGAN - then that's shocking. Then there is the new badge which genuinely makes me feel embarrassed to be an Everton fan.

He was apparently close to sealing a takeover deal but canceled it because we made a profit and he didn't feel he had to sell just yet. Well what are we going to do next year when we have dropped down the league because of whichever person he will likely appoint in addition to the huge losses we will make on merchandise sales? then we'll need a takeover, but who will want to buy our poor, cheap looking club? BK out.

Evertonconspiracyrumours. com
Pessimistsupporters. co. uk
Uncle Ben

Where is your evidence regarding BK pulling out of selling the club? Was it from the tea lady at Tranmere Rovers?

28 May 2013 11:51:44
stop moaning. be proud.

No one knows what's happening yet so you can't really blame kenwright at the mo.

I'll probably get caned for this but I don't mind our new badge one little bit. It's not exactly going to change the style of football we play or change the football club at all. That'll be up to the new man in charge which is much more important. We don't all want VP as our next manager and at the moment we don't know who its going to be! I say cut BK some slack until we know who the new manager is. then if we're not happy we can all kick off :)

Dog Puke Peter

We can't lose money on merchandise, we get paid upfront by Nike who then push our product. So for example they give us 3 mill for a season and will try to sell 4 mills worth is my understanding of the selling rights of our merchandise. Could be completely wrong though

Svenny

Never ever be embarassed to be a BLUE!

28 May 2013 10:47:16
Please everyone, can we all maintain a bit of perspective regarding the appointment of our new manager.
Some posters say the club is 'wasting time', 'dragging their heels', 'turning us into a laughing stock'. Oh ffs, the season finished 9 days ago and none of our players will be at finch farm for another 6 weeks.
Now is not the time for panic, its the time for patience. We're supposed to be Evertonians, made of sterner stuff than other fans. So to all the pessimists out there, c'mon grow a pair!

I (insert initial here)WT

Wake up players need bringing in, you don't do that without a manager

IMWT Martinez not Moyes obviously

Well in whitesocks. Good to know there are still some optimistic people out there. i'm with you on this. Nathan

28 May 2013 09:57:37
Bill is awaiting Vítor Pereira's decision on whether he's going to renew with Porto so hopefully him coming to Everton is still on the cards.

28 May 2013 08:38:46
I'm seeing a lot of posts saying today is the day etc how does everyone know it's happening today ed? {Ed025's Note - no one does D, i think its more hoping for a bit of closure mate, but im sure it will be very soon..

27 May 2013 23:07:18
Ed do u reckon we lost Periera or is there still a chance. Stef the blue {Ed025's Note - there is still a chance stef, but an outside one i think mate..

27 May 2013 23:52:21
i know we all say that the fa cup has been devalued by the champions league but was it not the fa who began its demise by allowing Manchester United to withdraw from the competition on there request so as to play in brazil in a non competative competition so as to enhance the chances of england getting the 2012 world cup which of course we didn't and allowing bury to take utds place having been already knocked out so when the fa cry about teams fielding weakened sides they should look in the mirror and hang there head in shame also wembley has paid for itself but still they insist on semi finals being played there to boost there pockets and the cup final as a 5. 15pm kick off to please its sponsors talk about football as the peoples game they are a disgrace.

I have the. same info on dougie freedman