Everton Banter Archive November 29 2017

29 Nov 2017 22:42:47
Fantastic result; but, that score line flattered us.
Williams, Martina and lennon bring nothing and dcl looked light weight but rooney as a deep midfielder might just work.
Lookman always brings pace and skill whilst that game was crying out for Sandro.
Coyb's.

30 Nov 2017 00:22:31
I have thought Lennon has been good recently, we are talking about the same player aren’t we?

30 Nov 2017 00:35:55
Grow up mate just take the result and enjoy it
We’ve not had a lot to be happy about this season
Have we become that twisted that we can’t enjoy a win.

29 Nov 2017 22:03:59
No more NEGATIVE posts please 1 Swallow DOES make a Summer.

29 Nov 2017 22:11:30
With one exception mate. That bloke Martina is absolutely hopeless, seriously I have watched a lot of Everton games every season and this bloke has got to be one of the worse players I have ever seen pull on an Everton shirt. Williams while still slow and prone to errors looked a lot better with Holgate (legs) next to him. I still think Sam will make us better. For a start the bloke has never had money, let's see what he can do.

29 Nov 2017 22:20:24
You are right mate but I am HAPPY first time in ages cheers.

30 Nov 2017 10:31:00
‘No more negative posts’. You must be drunk or something mate! I’ll try and get behind the bloke but this has got to be the worst appointment in the clubs history. I’ll obviously wait to tell you I told you so but the future is most certainly not bright. This appointment is how you throw money away and maul a football club which was close to top 6 material last season. Unfortunately we will now be a mid table team with other teams over taking such place. Moshiri’s seriously doing my head in already, we were doing better before the likes of him and Walsh turned up. Sorry but this is nothing but a negative.

29 Nov 2017 21:59:04
WELL WELL WELL.

29 Nov 2017 22:08:06
AND ME AND ME AND ME.

29 Nov 2017 20:00:37
Prediction for tonight is the ultimate rock bottom. Allardyce has his biggest challenge ever. No club has conceded as many as us in this amount of games and stayed up. That stat will be even more damming after the next 90 minutes. Can't see anything other than a 0-3 or a 0-2. Please superman let me be wrong.

29 Nov 2017 20:47:48
UGive your head a wobble mate what a daft statement.

29 Nov 2017 20:53:25
We are Everton. One thing we're good at is bucking the trend.

29 Nov 2017 20:56:41
Cmon Big Sam.

29 Nov 2017 21:03:05
Well Svenny it is 2-0 at half time but we are winning.

29 Nov 2017 21:52:53
what a load of tripe.

29 Nov 2017 22:04:42
If your a true Evertonian always believe!

29 Nov 2017 22:13:39
Well said Wakka mate.

29 Nov 2017 22:31:09
Sod off the lot of you. That result papers over major cracks I’m glad we have Big Sam in. We were not great tonight at all. One win and everyone is buzzing. Reign it in. We had at best 5 shots on target. Had they scored at 2-0 it would have been a different game. The only team with less going for them this season than us is West Ham. Rooney was majestic and he’ll be Sams superior Kevin Nolan but let’s not kid ourselves anyone who actually witnessed that 90 mins won’t leave with great confidence.

{Ed025's Note - come on svenny if you cant be happy after a 4-0 win mate then its time to pack in, not brilliant i admit but better than the recent guff..

29 Nov 2017 22:46:42
Ed I’m over the moon we got 3 points because it’s so vital, I’m just saying any evertonian that’s watched that and thinks we’ll be fine now is deluded.

{Ed025's Note - its a building block though svenny, all points are vital now so when we get 3 its hard not to celebrate mate..

29 Nov 2017 22:47:26
4 goals. Clean sheet. We ha dpossesion, energy and fight. All good ingredients for results.

29 Nov 2017 22:50:05
Ed we were brilliant going forwards at times but even I am agreeing that Williams is becoming a liability. And we sit off far too much. We need to press more when not in possession.

{Ed025's Note - its still not great degs but its a step in the right direction mate..

30 Nov 2017 09:25:43
Yes Ed it sure is and the goal by Rooney to be remembered for life. I think people were hoping for top 6 or even top 4 which really was unrealistic. I am happy with that clean sheet as much as anything. That is THE building block to start from.

{Ed025's Note - very much so degsy..

29 Nov 2017 19:10:37
Well I'm made up, i am pleased we have signed Big Sam as our next manager, we have been headless chickens since the moment Koeman came on the scene, also through the Gordan Lee, Mike Walker and Walter Smith times, Big Sam is going to have at last an owner who is prepared to back him, he has an 18 month contract to start and I believe he will be breaking the door down to get our team performing well, at the end of the day we could have ended up with some foreign coach who knows nothing of the Premier League, we now have a guy who knows it like the back of his hand, remember how Wenger, Mourinio and Pep etc all moaned about him because he dared to take points off their star studied prima donnas, this is a job for Big Sam with a Big Club at last, it will suit him down to the ground believe me he will be loving this, COYBS.

{Ed025's Note - you could make margret thatcher sound like mother theresa GB..

29 Nov 2017 19:18:43
That maybe so. Have you seen the starting line up tonight. Looks like Unsworth is trying to give Big Sam a losing start. How the heck can you have Williams and Martina in the same back line. Tell you what, let's see how it goes but those two in particular better perform because munching on pig cheeks is Sam's favourite dinner.

29 Nov 2017 19:21:15
love it mate, we need some luck and I reckon Big Sam will bring it, positive vibes man lol.

29 Nov 2017 19:52:45
I agree with most of your comments Guernsey in regards to big Sam, even the Walker and Smith, but I cannot agree Gordon Lee being in the Walker Smith camp, he had us playing some great football, baffling why he let Dave Thomas go but fully understand letting McKenzie go, overall we played some great football under Gordon Lee.

No silverwere but such great memories of Latchford King, Dobson, Thomas McKenzie and the like, some very good memories, whereas Walker and Smith, all bad.

29 Nov 2017 20:48:57
It was only Gordon went sideways in his last season mate.

29 Nov 2017 15:33:14
Big Sam only getting the job because no one else of any quality is available. As I said before I'm going to sit on the fence. I, like ed25 do not like or want big Sam but I am prepared to keep supporting the club and if he does well then so will the club and that can only be a good thing.
I just worry how much goodwill he will have banked if we continue to struggle. It could get very nasty at goodison unless he works miracles.

{Ed025's Note - if he does not fix things then the gloves come off geoff and i can assure you that hell hath no fury like ED025 scorned mate..

29 Nov 2017 17:47:20
Getting ridiculous now. With respect after all the dithering and messing about in a totally unprofessional manner from the Everton Hierarchy, who the heck do you think the Board could have hired?

29 Nov 2017 17:57:27
As you suggest the board has been totally incompetent. They should have had a list of candidates or even a manager lined up (agents can talk without it being tapping up) before koeman was sacked. I wanted koeman out but maybe he would have done better than unsy in the last 7 games or so.
It just frustrates me because after man city away we were looking at challenging top 4 and good cup runs, now we looking at staving relegation and big Sam. So depressing how far we have fallen, even if we were extremely optimistic.

29 Nov 2017 19:16:34
And I was celebrating 50 years following Everton this year. Good luck to you all who think Fat Sam is the second coming. In the space of 6 weeks we have gone backwards in my opinion. Laughing stock of the PL and will soon lose some of our best players. Hope he is gone by next May if he is not sacked in January.

29 Nov 2017 16:18:29
People saying they're going to stop supporting our club is a joke. All clubs go through rubbish spells but it's still our club. IMO people saying we've lost it all giving it to allardyce are ridiculous. If we went down we lose everything but I'm 100% confident SA will keep us up comfortably. "Everton til I die" people need to remember that and get behind the lads and the manager.

29 Nov 2017 16:28:39
How funny it will be if he wins us the fa cup 🤪.

29 Nov 2017 17:27:25
Forget the cup. What if he wins a derby game.

29 Nov 2017 18:58:12
Forget the derby any win after last month.

29 Nov 2017 15:45:45
Look we have to look at this as a balls up by the board giving Koeman all that money without questioning his No10 fixation, and believing all the hype that followed.
This season has gone and what we need now is to ensure we stay in the Prem. Enter Sam.
I believe we now have two options for the future. See how Sam goes and if he is a success then we have something to build on. Or pay him off and have someone else lined up prior to the season starting.
Either way we have to stay in this league, and that is all that matters right now.

29 Nov 2017 16:13:26
Agreed Woburn.

29 Nov 2017 16:40:30
Nice to have you back Degsyp.

29 Nov 2017 15:01:55
my biggest take from this whole fiasco is that communication between club and supporters need to improve. We got the majority of the information from Moshiri through Jim White, rather than club statements. that's just negligence.

I know Ed002 has mentioned that there has been issues with the communication department and the fans in the past, but surely it has to be improved?

{Ed002's Note - The club were very unhappy with the fans in the summer.}

29 Nov 2017 15:35:03
In what way were they unhappy? We are their customers. we could always take our custom elsewhere. oh no we are Evertonians. we don't do that sort of thing lol. Seriously why were they unhappy?

{Ed002's Note - I dealt with this in the summer.}

29 Nov 2017 16:06:03
Ah. Well I missed that one but won't get into a debate about it.

29 Nov 2017 16:39:26
The fans are the club absolute nonsense fans can be unhappy with the club not the other way around.

29 Nov 2017 14:29:07
Hope them let down players put a shift in for unsy tonight he deserves it, he's one of us 👍. No going to mention the new management team again until there gone .

29 Nov 2017 14:47:44
Cant see it myself they haven't bothered so far. Feel a bit sorry for Unsworth he was put in a poor situation with expectations far to high.

29 Nov 2017 15:20:15
Alerdice on orders from the Emirates.

29 Nov 2017 13:41:40
It truly shocks me how many so called evertonians have believed the propoganda surrounding SA from all the pundits recently.
We aee only in november!
Its almost as though they were paid to say these things.
Who the heck is steve walsh anyway?
A scout who is apparently now running our club?
Pathetic. Allardyce, lee, shakespeare?
What a joke of a club.
I can't believe some of you fans are actually believing we need him to save us!
We have been hoodwinked for the umpteenth time and i said what i said last night because i will not allow this board to break my heart yet again!
I will always be a blue because its in my DNA but my heart wull be taken out of it from niw on.

29 Nov 2017 15:11:13
Why do you think it is the pundits who many Evertonians are now believing regarding SA?, Do you think we are incapable of making our own minds up? As for saying it looks as though they have been paid to say what they say, all I can say is wake up!

When you are making statements that Steve Walsh is running the club, without any solid proof, perhaps you are trying to spread propaganda.
Steve Walsh is the DoF at Everton, that is who he is.

You say you will always be a blue, sorry mate but I don't think you sound like one. A true blue may not always agree with things going on, that is their prerogative, but they will always support what is going on and will NEVER call the club a joke.

29 Nov 2017 15:34:16
Take the blue nose glasses off mate.
Im a blue through and through but this club is a sham.
If you have made your mind up that he is the answer then i question your knowledge and understanding of our club and football in general.
This board relies on fans like you to blindly follow and support every decision they make.
Its sickening that they serve up broken dream after broken dream and yet people like you question the integrity of lifelong fans like me who simply will not put up and shut up with the sham they are.

29 Nov 2017 15:35:40
If you want solid proof about steve walsh then remember he is a scout not a DOF and he wants SA sammy lee and CS.
Whos running the club mate?
Joke.

29 Nov 2017 16:32:30
I'm certainly not questioning your integrity Pauly it is your validity that I was questioning.

Fact :- Steve Walsh IS THE DoF AT EVERTON, for some reason you can not accept this, Just because he was a head scout in his previous history does not alter the fact that he IS OUR DoF at this moment in time.

Fact :- Because some media have said SW has championed the appointment of Big Sam against the wishes of others does not make it true. In fact it could be mistaken for propaganda, so it now begs the question of why do YOU believe in some perceived propaganda and not others?

Fact :- EFC EXISTS so for that very reason it can not be a sham.

Fact :- The board serve up what is actually happening and what they plan for the future it is US FANS who exaggerate that information and turn it into dreams. The board do not break our dreams they only react to changes of circumstances.

Fact :- Just because my views differ from yours does not mean that my knowledge of both football and our club should be put into question, after all maybe you are wrong. Just because I am willing to accept that I cannot change things that are going on, does not mean that I endorse those decisions, What I will do is support them, that does in no way mean I am following blindly.

Fact :- If you really honestly believe the club is a joke and a sham then maybe you should choose another team to support, a team that will meet your high standards, a team that is not a joke or a sham, I'm sure they exist after all I support one.

Now here is my little part, If you support a club then support it fully, Don't only support the little bits that you agree with as that does not make you a supporter it makes you a whinger.

29 Nov 2017 17:15:30
I think we'll agree to disagree.
Go get ya big bill and big sam scarf on and head down to goodison mate.
Enjoy ya night and the big unveilling x.

29 Nov 2017 13:07:43
any opinions on sammy lee coming in with big sam. one of my worst nightmares about to happen, big sam and sammy lee in our dugout. how has it come to this. it's been both wonderful and tough supporting the blues for the past 49 years, but i think we've just started our demise as a top club, and to think it was loads of dosh unwisely spent that caused it. gutted.

29 Nov 2017 13:26:49
Agent Lee reporting for business.

29 Nov 2017 13:56:02
What difference does make who comes in, as long as they get the team playing and winning. Come on lads let’s drop the negitivity and get behind the manager coaches and team.

29 Nov 2017 14:14:15
Pathetic comment about Lee, for those that remember did Beardsley, Johnson, Sheedy or the late Gary Albett give any thing but their best for this club?

29 Nov 2017 14:44:37
Agreed Wakka.

29 Nov 2017 15:07:52
Nail on the head Wakka.

29 Nov 2017 10:44:53
I'll be happy if it's Big Sam because to state the obvious we r in deep deep s@@t and don't have time for experiments r we will be relegated FACT so if Big Sam is appointed today then I will be 100% behind him we r the best fans in the world time to show COYB the club is the most important thing.

29 Nov 2017 11:10:05
Well said mate we need to get behind the lads and the manager whoever it is, time for negativity to end folks, starting with tonight big game fingers x Rhino deserves a big prezzie from the lads tonight he's been in over his head but done his best and a true Evertonion, onwards and upwards COYBS.

29 Nov 2017 12:07:18
All this talk of Sam well were is he?
WBA now got there man but again nothing from Everton probably waiting for another thrashing tonight before they make a move .
Missing another trick having Sam there to improve the atmosphere .
They really are a joke
Will really have to motivate myself to get there tonight in the dark and freezing cold on two trains
But thing is I LOVE EM.

29 Nov 2017 12:18:55
Chill out mate Sam will be there AND we are going WIN, trust a Guernseyman lol.

29 Nov 2017 12:54:21
I hope so My friend from Guernsey
COYB
See he just signed according to Sky.

29 Nov 2017 13:05:11
Think you might be wrong Trebor mate. Looks like the big man will be there.

29 Nov 2017 09:51:38
Looks like a new motto for the crest " bigus kickus getus gameus" Let's never have the audacity to mention School of Science again. Goodson Park now Wasteland. Deverstated.

29 Nov 2017 11:00:24
Big Sam brought Jay Jay Okocha and Youri Djorkaeff to Bolton. OK that's enough straw clutching for one day.

29 Nov 2017 09:31:29
The fans expect nothing but the best from the team.

The board should expect nothing but the best when appointing a manager.

All the work done by Kenwright and Moyes running the club on a shoe string has been lost. If Allardyce is appointed it shows panic has set in in the board room in order to cover their own shortcomings.

I'm not a footballer but anyone can see if you stop the opposition scoring, you keep a clean sheet and don't get beaten, thus getting at least one point. Basics. I don't need £4m a year to see that.

29 Nov 2017 09:56:38
Be thankful Sam might be coming, no one else wants the job, or their club refuse to let their manager go, do not think Everton have Much option for now.

Not my first choice but if he is named as our new manager, he will get my full support.

29 Nov 2017 08:00:10
Well should see lots of goals tonight. Problem is if we set up the same as we did on Sunday then they will all be against us.

29 Nov 2017 06:46:18
Agree Pauly agree scoundrel I for one will not step foot inside goodison while he is there and I have lost all faith in FM and don't believe a word that comes out of goodison tonight could be the last game for me for a while if the rest want to sell to the devil then let them but not me.

{Ed025's Note - a good few are saying the same skylark and although i can understand that sentiment i think the team need all the support they can muster at this very difficult time mate..

29 Nov 2017 08:11:22
I for one would never turn my back on the club who has been a massive part of my life and now my kids lives, regardless of if its Fat Sam Allardyce on the bench or Fat Lolly Sam as long as we get back to basics of defending as a unit and putting in 110% on the field I couldn't care less.
I don't want Sam but we need him so I'm with that as if we don't get somebody like him we will be relegated and we will suffer a humiliating loss at Anfield.
If we turn up their like we did at Saints they will easily put 8 past us and that is not exaggerating!
If 'fans' want to turn their backs because they don't agree with a decision the men in charge make then so be it, but remember, its not the players on the pitch who chose Sam, so why turn your back on them?

29 Nov 2017 08:16:28
Would you rather play in the championship next season.

29 Nov 2017 10:01:22
Well said Bluegrey.

29 Nov 2017 11:46:57
We are Everton Football Club. This is when the club need the supporters the most. I hate Steven Gerrard more than any player on this planet, but if he coached Everton, he would get my full support. We are Everton. Support the club we all love, no matter what!

29 Nov 2017 02:04:16
If sammy lee and alardyce take over at our club then the club is dead to me.
This parasitic board has turned us into a laughing stock in my eyes.
Shocking! Absolutely shocking.
No matter what the reason bandied around will be we are now officially dead as a club.
No ambition. No direction. No leadership. No ideas.
Ive watched us cash in on all our best players over the last 20 yrs and when we had a chance to regain our place at the top of english football we blew it!
Disgusting. The soul of the club has been sold to the devil in my eyes and all you bleeding hearts shouting for big sam and BK should take off your blue nose glasses and wake up and smell the cheap coffee.
Pathetic!

29 Nov 2017 06:21:59
I always remember a banner at Wembley it read "Everton_F. C class and dignity! "
I thought it summed us up. Clearly if we appoint Sam I was oh so wrong. Think it's Dignitas I need. Lowest day in 35 years of being a season ticket holder.

{Ed025's Note - i know how you feel mate..

29 Nov 2017 06:38:18
The club is dead if we don't get stability big Sam will give us that it's desperate I know but have ye been watching or last few games we are playing like the worst team in the league.

{Ed025's Note - we are the worst team in the league irish thats true, allardyce as a short term fix may work but long term im hoping for better mate..

29 Nov 2017 08:07:04
Agreed Ed25 but unfortunately I feel the needs dictate that we need to stabilise and then build. Our ageing fragile defence needs a total overhaul and though the sentimental part of me hates to say it the realistic part knows time has come on Jags and Baines bring in replacements and ship them out in the summer. Williams doesn’t even get that he needs to go as seems a liability!
Perhaps the Fonseca deal will happen next summer I am sure I read his deal with Shakhtar was only 2 years and expires next summer.

{Ed025's Note - i cant pretend that im happy with the situation ST but it is what it is and for the betterment of this forum i am not going to moan just for the sake of it mate..