Everton Banter Archive July 02 2016

02 Jul 2016 16:59:03
Anybody out there think Ashley williams would make a great signing iv watched all his games for wales he has been outstanding along with joe allen.

02 Jul 2016 17:25:00
I agree would love him at everton he is a team player an a leader would be great signing.

02 Jul 2016 18:32:21
He is 31, probably not what we need now!

02 Jul 2016 18:49:19
I beg to differ sidutton. Not getting fixated on Williams but with Jags going in the next season or two the rest of our CB's are 26 with Funes Mori and all the rest are 22 or younger!

Think we need an experienced CB to replace Jags for balance. Like a 28 year old or older to have the experience there.

02 Jul 2016 22:06:51
Agreed NBTB, he might be 31 but his age shouldn't count against him. I'm not saying we should buy him but it wouldn't be the worst signing, he brings a wealth of premier league experience and, imo doesn't look out of place at this level. He's also been solid and dependable for Wales in the euro's so far. We get too hung up on the age of a player, they are fitter than ever in today's game, but as long as they can do a job for us then I'm happy. Barry, by and large, has been good for us and he was no spring chicken when he signed. I bet there wouldn't be too many moans if we had managed to sign Zlatan!

02 Jul 2016 23:21:14
The only problem with him is he doing so well in Euros so might not be an option. I do agree with you though his age don't matter remember Richard gough was about 37/ 38 for us still was able to do a great job for us.

02 jul 2016 21:00:23
not botherd if he was 21 still woudint want him not good enough for us don't rate him. no. one talked about him before he scored against belgium now people are touting him for us give over will ye.

03 Jul 2016 00:26:16
He was linked with Everton plenty of of times this last year royalpaul. Its nothing new.

03 Jul 2016 03:01:38
Give over yourself royalpaul. williams is a consistant hard working defender. he would be a fantastic signing i believe. he's a typical british, get your head or boot in centre half. and tbf he was been watched by the likes of arsenal and that. ball playing centre halves are fine but you need a traditional norman ' bite yer legs' hunter type centre half. defends corners and most importantly his goal.

03 Jul 2016 06:38:53
I posted a couple days back questioning the same thing, I really think he's a good players and can really solidify our defence. For those of your worrying about the age I believe Scott Dann is a good player and only around 26-28.

03 Jul 2016 10:07:22
Williams, Ramsey and Hennessy would all be good buys from the Welsh squad. They all know what putting in a full shift means.

03 Jul 2016 11:50:58
Paul, this has been brought up dozens of times on this site so wobble your own head mate

Keenone, no chance Ramsey but would live him here mate.

03 Jul 2016 16:50:42
the fact that its been brought up on this site does not mean i am not entitled to my opinion.

03 Jul 2016 22:23:24
No one said you weren't entitled to your opinion royalpaul. You are entitled to it as much as anyone on here.

Your post makes out that its only since he scored the goal that he's been linked with Everton and people are only talking about him now. This is untrue, he's being talked about plenty before. Also been talked about coming to Everton for some time now.

Distin was what age after coming to Everton? Imho he was a very good signing and didn't get the recognition that he should of got. No one thought he was going to be as good a signing as he turned out to be. A top professional who done more than his bit for Everton.

Fair enough, you don't rate Williams. As you say, your entitled to your opinion. As is everyone. I rate him. Not only because he has played well in the Euro's so far but because he gives 100% commitment just like Distin.

Your wrong that no one talked about him before the euro's and now everyone is talking about him. Its only natural that people are going to talk about Wales and the amazing achievement if getting to the semi's. Doesn't mean Williams was a non-existent player before the euro's. Just shows he didn't get any recognition.

Imho he deserves every bit he gets. Every Wales player does. As every Leicester player does. Passionate team players. Any football club could learn plenty from both teams imho.

02 Jul 2016 13:08:41
I for one am not to convinced that Ronald Koeman was the right choice for us. we were in the best position for years to get ourselves a great manager and think we might have missed out . Now before you all start shouting me down, I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

And I do hope I'm wrong and will hold my hands up if I am, but must admit I have not seen many posts on here agreeing with me, but I will keep this post and re post it in January and hope I'm wrong.

02 Jul 2016 13:49:27
Every manager, just like every new player, is a gamble. That said, of those available he is, at least on paper, the best manager we could have got, and in terms of quick results we shold be prepared to cut him some slack. I know it's a no no, to discuse Martinez, but that man did so much damage to our club, it may take a season just to repair the mess he left behind.

02 Jul 2016 13:49:59
I do like Koeman as a manager, but I still have a tiny nagging disappointment that we had to head hunt him and coax him with money. I would have preferred someone who actually wanted the job in the first place, rather than had to be talked into it. That said, I think Koeman is better than De Boer. And certainly a step up from our previous manager. I do believe that Mr Moshiri has a very promising plan, though which must have been a factor in winning Koeman over.

02 Jul 2016 16:08:43
Skylark, who was your choice?

02 Jul 2016 17:06:48
I do share some of your concerns Skylark but Koeman I believe was the best of the potential candidates we had. There was no one else better and he is a big improvement on our last manager.

He seems proven in the premiership with Southampton. I hope so anyway as the team recovered from loosing a lot of players well. Hopefully this recovery was down to Koeman rather than the scouts which some believe.

I also share the disappointment of Koeman coming mainly because of money. Doesn't look like he's passionately involved. Say you want about Martinez and I said plenty of negatives, he felt privileged to manage Everton.

These minor concerns don't get in the way of choosing Koeman. No manager is perfect and will bring some negatives no matter how good he is. Some didn't even want Mourinho as they thought he is not good for the long term development of the clubs players.

I believe Koeman was the right appointment and was the best possible manager we could of got at this time. The concerns I have I hope don't develop. Time will tell I guess.

02 Jul 2016 18:24:22
I Don't believe Koeman did come for the money, after all he is worth millions in his own right.

It is now well known that Southampton wanted him to sign another contract which he refused to do, this was before we had gone in for him, Southampton had apparently told him that working his final 3rd year with them before signing a new contract was not an option. Agreed we have only heard this from Koeman himself and only after he joined us, so it may be that he has started off with us by telling us few lie's. personally I doubt he is.

The money he has been offered is surely just the icing on the cake and there a lot of other things that made him come to us.

I have made it no secret that I would of preferred Pelligrini but now accept that maybe Koeman is the right choice after all.

{Ed002's Note - It is fundamentally correct - he was contract for a year and even though they cannot say it is not an option - they wanted a commitment and he wasn't prepared to do that.}

02 Jul 2016 18:52:41
I hope your right Grumpytoffee.

02 Jul 2016 20:58:06
the amount of good to quality players that have left Southampton during Koeman's time is worrying of me.

I don't believe that saint's board hired koeman as manager to be a feeder club.

02 Jul 2016 21:56:40
Koeman didn't stay because of the ambition of the club. Already they are prepared to sell their best players.

I'll be honest and say I'm amazed at seeing this post. I couldn't give two shits about skylark and his bud down the pub. Can we not get some positivity?

The fact you WANT to repost this in January makes me feel sorry for you and wonder why you even bother.

I'm going to get back to SUPPORTING the manager and players.

02 Jul 2016 22:19:04
I didn't expect us to get Koeman, what with Southampton's reluctance to let him speak and his own statement saying he was staying on the south coast, and was leaning more towards MP. I can't profess to know too much about our new manager and the way his teams play. I've heard rumours, good and bad, about his managerial style but there is no way of knowing which ones are true. The amount of cash thrown at him to take over us was undoubtedly a decisive factor in his u-turn over staying where he was, only a fool wouldn't listen when such figures are dangled in front of them.
We can only judge him by what he does for us, the slate is wiped clean for him and the players as they adapt to the way he wants to play. Suppose what I'm saying here is that let's just give him a chance to settle in and get the season under way before we start grumbling about him. It's an exciting time to be a blue.

02 Jul 2016 19:18:47
Cropper16 I haven't got a clue 😯😯.

02 Jul 2016 12:31:02
Hi ed, what number will Maarten wear?

{Ed007's Note - You'll need to wait until they're announced mate.}

02 Jul 2016 10:52:59
Morning Blues

Looks like Stones is off according to reports, i'm sure we will cope though, 50 million is a good price, spend a third of that and get Ashley Williams in, would do a great job.

02 Jul 2016 13:31:57
I doubt Williams would leave Swansea. Not just because Wales are the new Brazil and this is going to raise the profile of the only Welsh team in the Premier League, but because the Swans are about to be taken over by an American consortium, so may be in a similar position to us and have a new project that their players will be interested in staying at the club for. Williams has had chances to move before and preferred to remain loyal to Swansea.

02 Jul 2016 22:02:18
He's been leaving for the past 12 months. Let's see what happens over the summer. I think the players we buy will have an impact on the players we keep rather than the other way around.

02 Jul 2016 09:21:38
All the speculation about axel witsel this morning don't no why but just isn't getting me that ecxited not a bad player just don't personaly rate him tbat much especialy at 30 mil plus id be more comfortable with us getting sniderlin for a litlle cheaper as well that's if u belive paper talk and valuation any thoughts ed.

02 Jul 2016 09:59:33
i Think many people share your opinion after his performance both last night and during the Euros in general. I think he's a good player. but in reality he's not worth more then about £20M and the inflation of money that clubs have to spend are bumping the prices of players up.

regardless i do think he'd be an improvement to our midfield.

I would much rather pinch Naingolan from Roma. i know Chelsea were interested and i know Pjanic has signed for Juve so Roma has lost 1/ 2 main midfielders (with Naingolan being the 2nd i'm not sure teyd want to see him go. )

02 Jul 2016 11:39:01
I know that I am biased as I am Welsh but of all the midfielders at the Euros, if I could pick one to join us, it would be Ramsey. Has been Wales' best player even though Bale gets the headlines. Just wish he had joined us when Moyes tried to sign him.
Gingerblue.

03 Jul 2016 06:54:06
Biased or not I agree that Ramsey is a good player. He's still young and I think he is an ideal fit to our midfield. I'd gladly pay £25 - £30M for the lad but he's need to sort his hair out first.

02 Jul 2016 08:07:57
Guys, we need to calm down a bit. Remember we already have a good squad of players, all they lacked was leadership. Now if that means RK taking his time then fine, as long as he strengthens the team. Which I'm sure he will. We know we are lacking a spine through the middle of the team, so if we get a keeper, centre back (who can defend) , attacking mid, and striker (who scores goals) . Then that's four players, that's all. So let's all take a deep breath and relax. Very exciting times ahead I'm thinking. Watch this space. 👀.

02 Jul 2016 08:37:33
Totally agree Woburn. I don't think I have ever been as relaxed and confident over a transfer window before.
I'm pretty sure I won't be glued to the Internet this transfer deadline day searching players like Stracqualursi I have never even heard of.

02 Jul 2016 09:14:52
I'd say we need a good left midfielder as well and if possible bring In 2 cms.

02 Jul 2016 12:50:37
So a new team then etc. Agree with Woburn omits all about the spine of the team. Need 3 or 4 at most.