Everton Banter Archive July 30 2016

 

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30 Jul 2016 22:41:53
Ashley Williams for £10m?

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30 Jul 2016 23:11:15
I'd take that. along with gueye should add some know how to the defensive side of things.

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30 Jul 2016 22:05:25
Sunning my skinny butt in Spain at the moment and it's amazing how many people expect Everton to do well in the coming season.
Football conversation is a great ice breaker and a lot of the blokes (and a few women as well) are sporting footy tattoos which leads into a bit of banter.
I think so far I've had conversations with Sunderland, Newcastle, City and United, Forest, Hull, Arsenal, Leicester and Tottenham fans as well as the odd kopite and they all speak highly of what Everton as a club are doing so far with our recruitment of a manager and DoF as well as the quiet and dignified way we aren't just lying down and let other clubs pillage our assets.
In the eyes of other fans we are a club on the up, the future's bright, the future's Blue.

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30 Jul 2016 16:46:38
This is a post based on the last 2 seasons, never mind the pre season, though it does highlight some of what i say. There have been players put on very high pedastals for the last 2 Seasons mainly by Martinez but aswell the press too have bulit them up, when there was no basis in doing so, because we have been poor as a team and poor individually too. I will mention those we all want in the team but who have not done it as footballers for the team ethic. Rom n Barkley have been poor with the odd flashes of their potential. Rom has never been a good footballer but has been reasonably clinical though you do feel it flatters him somewhat as he should have scored far more than he has done. Barkley, just too much too soon was said about him and continues to be said about him. The next Gazza, Ballack n so on. He hasn't moved on, great physique, great skills, but when was the last time we saw him take hold of a game and dictate, its just not in his game, his footballing mentality and space awareness are poor. Stones has been wonderful to watch, but allowed to play as he see's fit. that's ok for a while as you should learn by your mistakes, but as Big Nev says, if you don't learn by mistakes n keep making them, then you will always be that way. Our defence last 2 seasons been awful. Miralas, flatters to deceive, but in his defence he hasn't had the games to improve. Mc Carthy, i was a massive fan of, but his attitude last season seemed to have gone, very lazy in his passing, sideways n backwards, and not too comitted either, always injury prone now it seems. Barry again wonderful but his days are numbered, too slow for the team now. Weve needed a decent Keeper for too long, nothing has been done about it, same as right back cover, its ok using the young lads for 2 or 3 games but historically now Coleman (who is struggling with his game too) is injured for long periods every season. Baines what a player he's been, but has never been the same since his injury and Pienaar lost his way, fitness and ultimately his form. Gerri I've never been a fan of, yes great skills and crossing ability, but never a 90min player or starter, however how surprised and delighted i am to see him now, a new role, he has put on so much more bulk in muscle and his attitude is spot on, i'm looking forward to watching him this season so a huge plus point there. Those that have to go are obvious in Kone, Niasse just what the club saw in them God only knows. So it is obvious now not only to us but to Koeman and his team that he has an enormous task in either improving the players or as i believe we need to move on from some and get better in.

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30 Jul 2016 17:04:13
Not happening Howie, we stick with what we have.

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30 Jul 2016 18:29:27
Jeeezzzz lads brighten up will ya, av never said jeezzz before, ever but that's the exact word needed here, let's have a bit ov positivity ere.

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30 Jul 2016 19:09:08
There is a lot of truth in your post Howie. IMHO the majority of the blame is on Martinez. Maybe I'm being biased because I never wanted him at our club. His signings in general I was impressed with. The positives for me in regards to Martinez stops there.

Everything he done after that was abysmal. Be totally different under Koeman. I have no doubt we will be sharper, fitter, better organised, better cohesion and better fight this season under a new manager.

O yea, don't expect us to be as nice either. Martinez was far too nicey nicey. Our whole dynamics will change IMO. I may be wrong but that's how I see it.

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{Ed025's Note - i hope your right mate..

30 Jul 2016 19:13:05
Ok, all's well at the Club. We have the best squad since the 80's again, and let's go for Top Four. The experienced players, the youth and the quality players a perfect balance, and a fantastic Manager to mould them into a great team. Get behind them as only Evertonians who travel to watch them can at home too if Poss. As for transfers well, let's just get what we can and add to the squad to cover for injuries n suspensions. There how's that?

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{Ed025's Note - it works for me howie mate..

30 Jul 2016 20:02:47
Trouble is it ignores all that id said and that is dangerous philosophy. don't mend what's wrong?! very dangerous.

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30 Jul 2016 21:01:20
As much as I accept what you say, I don't think its as bad as you make out.
Lukaku is Lukaku and as bad as you say he is he scored 20 odd goals for us last season, the 1st time since Lineker.
Barkley had his best season for us with both goals qnd assists and it is also difficult when you are the sole source of creating goals.
Stones although error prone will be a great defender under someone who defends like Koeman.
They just my opinion on 3 of the players according to you we should buy a whole new squad and that is highly improbable.

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30 Jul 2016 21:54:04
Agree with most of it but Kevin Mirallas is the best footballer Everton have had since Rooney. The mentality to not play him because he either is disobedient or lazy or whatever is ridiculous and arrogant from both Moyes and Martinez, he should be in our current squad 1st name down on the sheet.
I don't know how Lukaku scores the amount he does as he seems technically defficient to me, however regular scorers at this level are gold dust, second name on the sheet. Coleman is class get off his back, 3rd name, Baines has lost a yard but still top half left back easy, 4th name, if Ross was deeper and allowed freedom he would be 5th name, Del Boy as well technically gifted 6 th name, good quality keeper, 7th name. Our problem, very much like the England team/ squad is that after that, there is no shoe ins. You could argue 3 of the ones I've said as well. We have a good squad but they are all much of a muchness, the rest is based on age and pure crappiness (McGeady, Kone, Niasse) so until you have a best XI it's hard to buy players as you don't know who or what is a necessity (goalkeeper aside in our case) so don't expect much until January.
Still think a front 3 of Kev, Rom and DelBoy will cause problems with a midfield of Ross, JMac and Mo (or a new signing for any of those 3) plus a new centre back and we will be a decent side. Predicting a slowish start to the season 7th place come May.

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30 Jul 2016 22:10:11
Howie your last comment is a bit confusing. Not sure I follow what your saying?

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30 Jul 2016 23:43:20
Quite simple really. Koemans decision, does he try n make those with deficiencies better or move them on and get better players in. In other words whatever he gets on players he uses plus the millions already there on players who are better now.

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31 Jul 2016 00:27:07
Emmm interesting view. My own view is players under certain managers show deficiencies that aren't necessarily there. Rather it appears to be there because of the player carrying out instructions of the manager. IMHO that was the case under Martinez.

IMO Martinez had a certain way of playing football. Players had to play that way. He was being ignorant about it IMO and it ultimately led to his sacking IMO.

In other words Martinez didn't play to his players strengths. He had a style to aim at and didn't give enough consideration into the players individual ability or strengths. He played the game the way he thought it should be played rather than playing to his players / teams strength.

Koeman will be different IMO and more shrewd. A proper example is international managers. They have certain players to work with and that's it. No transfers, they have to try and get the best out of the players at their disposal.

That's why I like the likes of Martin O'Neill, who done good with Ireland. Dare I say Moyes. Big Sam I think is another. Totally overachieved at Bolton. That's why I think he'll do well with England.

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31 Jul 2016 07:17:42
I think Howie's original post was spot on. It is exactly what I have been trying to say. But maybe he is better at getting it over? When you look at everything he says, it leads to a conclusion that maybe we are not as good as everyone thinks? I know I wind people up and people think I am negative. That's just not true. I just say it as I see. Howie's assessments are pretty accurate in my view and I would add in to his view that with the retiring 3 that we have just lost and the poor signings that Martinez made. Niasse, McGeady and Kone. that takes our 25 man squad down to 19. Add in what I consider average players. Cleverly and Lennon and the squad looks threadbare. Get an injury or 2 or a suspension and you are down to just about a first 11. Oh and what happens if we do sell Lukaku or Stones and all of a sudden are only 11 is not capable of winning a game, Yes I know this sounds negative. but in football management, these things happen. You have to plan for eventualities. Yes we have great kids coming through. probably one of the best lots around (Spurs excepted I would say) , but again I don't think they are in the main ready for first team action. I feel like Howie that there are going to be a lot of upset Blues this season.

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31 Jul 2016 07:19:25
I agree too with what you say NBTB, but the defficiencies of our squad will be too much for even Koeman to overcome unless we make a few major signings.

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31 Jul 2016 09:35:54
Howie and Degsy you both could be 100% right. I don't agree but I'm not naive enough to think I'm always right.

I guess come the end of the year our argument will become clear. Should have an idea on both how much of an impact Koeman has. And also be able to put better judgement on how good / bad the players are.

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31 Jul 2016 10:00:59
NBTB, i guess they are your opinions, hahahaha. i'm cool with that, its all about opinions. Those are just mine based on my observations. Blaming Martinez not enough. Play internationals n they still look deficient.

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31 Jul 2016 10:55:25
The best managers throughout history have made average players look fantastic, or at the very least effective. Think Brian Clough, Fergie in his last season (how the hell did he win the league with that team?! ) and to an extent Leicester last season. For me, we have had bad luck in the transfer market. We do need at least 4 players, but I think times like this is where Koeman earns his wage. I trust in Koeman, and hope that he can make the most of whatever squad he has come the start of the season.

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31 Jul 2016 12:07:50
I agree Howie some of the blame is on the players. For me most is on Martinez though.

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30 Jul 2016 15:23:37
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30 Jul 2016 14:48:18
Message for Koeman and Walsh lakaku out stones out and nobody in = championship by Christmas you have been warned - I hope I, m wrong.

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30 jul 2016 15:17:43
you are wrong, four top players in, j/ s and r/ k to stay if price not met, top six finish.

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30 Jul 2016 15:21:58
Wow. Really?

These were two preseason games played in less than 24 hours with almost two completely different teams put out on the field.

Rom is getting a lot of flack, and yes he didn't play well, but it was also his first game back after coming back from holiday. The guy is going to be rusty.

If players like Stones or Rom do go I'm sure RK/ SW will have players in mind as replacements.

The signings will come, the team will get to grips with what RK wants and will improve. It won't happen over the space of a season, let alone 4 preseason games, but it will happen.

Let's get behind the team and the club rather than thinking the sky is falling.

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30 Jul 2016 15:26:59
Im starting to think were better off getting shot of both stones and lukaka. If the press are correct neither want to be here and the constant bids must unsettle the squad not just them 2.
Theres plenty of defenders out there within our range that would suitably replace stones.
Lukaka on the other hand may be much more difficult to replace. There are plenty of youngsters we could go for. Yes they are unproven but sure as hell will show more guts and determination than lukaka did today. 3 young strikers i like the look of, wether they are realistic options i don't know but sebastien haller, milik or elhadadi. what's your thoughts guys.

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30 Jul 2016 15:31:41
Oxford, your optimism overwhelming.

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30 Jul 2016 19:15:51
Oxford, that doesn't even make sense. One player + one player leaving does not = relegation. How you come up with that is mind boggling.

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30 Jul 2016 14:32:44
Every year I watch the preseason friendlies and give a quick summary and player rating for each player so people who couldn't watch can get a better idea of how the preseason is going beyond the score itself. Always welcome others contribution and opinion, preseason performances are always open to interpretation! Not been able to watch the other matches, but did watch today's against Betis, so here we are:

First things first, though; this game was atrocious. One of the longest and worst 90 minutes of football I've ever seen. Absolutely no quality from either side. I would also say Betis where a disgrace at times. Countless dives and several malicious tackles, in a FRIENDLY.

Joel - 5 - Very little to do. Possibly should have done better for their goal

Holgate - 8 - Good performance. Solid in defense and attack

Pennington - 6.5 - Solid enough, unfortunate to get injured

Galloway - 6.5 - Solid enough

Oviedo - 7.5 - Good performance. One good long range shot

Barry - 8 - probably man of the match. Typical Barry performance

Besic - 7 - Looked okay, no real imapact but show glimpses of his qualities

McCarthy - 7 - Minimal impact but no errors

Cleverley - 7.5 - Little impact but worked hard

Kone - 7.5 - Typically zero goal threat but worked hard and linked up well at times

Lukaku - 5 - No impact. Frequently fouled.

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No subs made any impact, either. Basically, mo one made any impact in this game. Really can't reiterate how bad it was. Even the pens where poor.

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30 Jul 2016 14:51:51
Cheers AB's I couldn't get to see it so your post is most appreciated.
Seems the concensus is we were very poor and in need of new blood.

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30 Jul 2016 12:02:05
EDs:
Would it be fair to say:
(a) the only people who REALLY know what's going on with transfers are the club's involved and the player and his representatives; and
(b) those involved mIght - just might - talk with others in the game (other agents, scouts, recruitment staff, etc. ) - it seems a close-knit (for want of a phrase! ) community that know each other and see each other at football events and talk amongst themselves; and
(c) the media might get to hear about or just be told or just guess (usually making 2 + 2 = 5! ) about transfer stories and publish the speculation; and
(d) fans have no real idea - other than from media speculation - about the TRUE substance of the stories and the vast majority of fans certainly have no comprehension of how football transfers actually happen; and
(e) nevertheless, fans have an insatiable appetite for gossip and are avid consumers of the stories however improbable!

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{Ed002's Note - (a) Not necessarily. (b) Yes, there are plenty of open discussions. (c) Perhaps - generally the media will repeat one story from elsewhere - people tend not to understand this. (d) Fans are not the brightest bunch - like most footballers. (e) Gullible is the word you are looking for Sid.}

30 Jul 2016 13:31:25
Great summary, both of you. I don't alwys see eye to eye with you both but you are definitely spot on here. Ed, is it true Lukaku is off to Maidstone for 125 million? I read it on a sheet of toilet paper somewhere.

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30 Jul 2016 11:38:22
Just a question

Moshiri said £100 mill to spend and any sales will go back into pot as well. Now if stones goes for £50 mill and rom for say £60 that makes £210 mill. Sounds great.

My worry is, that we are having two big players leave before we spend and that to me looks like we are still selling before buying.

How can we sell before we have new players in for that position, plus all good players are being snapped up.

We have been here most years selling before we buy, so what's your thoughts.

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30 Jul 2016 12:00:56
Dont think he actually said anything Pb, just papers speculating mate.

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30 Jul 2016 12:20:27
Murf1000: Spot on, mate! I don't recall FM actually saying anything directly to camera. Even when he stood next to BK who was gushing "What a manager! " about RM, FM just had a wry smile and said nothing as I recall ;-) Even stories in the press about FM and his involvement with Everton that I've seen don't have direct quotes from him. It's only BK who's spoken directly on the record about board-level issues - which, as chairman, he's supposed to do as the club's main spokesperson.

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30 Jul 2016 11:27:17
So Man City have told us it's £40 million or nothing.

Well thanks for the ultimatum but as we:

1 Don't need the money
2 Don't really want to sell, and
3 Have him with 3 years left on his current deal- hope that you don't mind if we politely decline your last offer and keep him with us.

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30 Jul 2016 12:02:20
Just keep him Ace, he will sulk for a couple of weeks, drop new fat contract in front of him and he will soon be smiling again, no need for a CB too if he stays.

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30 Jul 2016 12:10:30
Spot on. He's OUR player and City came to us to buy him, we haven't been begging them to take him off our hands. The price is £50m, they don't like it they can go elsewhere.

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30 Jul 2016 12:40:45
I wouldn't be as polite as you Ace, if I had a car on the drive for sale £5000 and some wide boy knocked on the door saying, '4000,take it or leave it' my reply would start with and end in an f!

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30 Jul 2016 15:29:03
Love it Mushy :)

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30 Jul 2016 18:03:28
So your reply mushy

'For you its a deal, give us the cash and get off'

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30 Jul 2016 10:57:47
With this talk of lukaku going, I'd say 30m plus bony could be a good deal for stones.

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30 Jul 2016 11:17:34
Starting to think along similar lines providing we cn get a center half or two in. But a half hearted Lukaku scores 20 a season. Imagine what a fully committed one would do?

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30 Jul 2016 11:29:17
True degsy. if we keep him koeman will have to put a rocket up his arse.

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30 Jul 2016 10:46:58
According to skysports transfer centre gueye hasn't had medical with us and still at villa they waiting to see if anyone will make a bigger bid for him as there is supposed to be interested in gueye from other clubs.

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30 Jul 2016 10:53:47
Di mattio has accepted it buts the chairman xia whose playing up.

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30 Jul 2016 10:59:32
It is up to the player. If he wants to go and the buy out figure is met. they (Villa) cannot deny him his right to work elsewhere. Perhaps he would prefer another club?

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30 Jul 2016 09:38:48
Apparently villa want more money due to the interest in gana despite us paying the full release clause. Cheeky F*****s them brummies.

How close are we to announcing at least one signing?

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30 Jul 2016 10:46:55
They can only ask us for more if someone else has made a firm bid if not they must adhere to the contract.

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30 Jul 2016 08:30:55
I need a dose of NBTB's positiveness. Because after watching last night, all my fears and worries came flooding back. I seriously think we will be around the bottom 3.unless we sign 3 or 4 top quality players. and do not lose Lukaku. If we lose Lukaku, I think we will be in BIG trouble.

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30 Jul 2016 08:58:13
I agree degsy not a good performance, but I don't think bottom 3 or 4 mate that's relegation talk before the season kicks off.

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30 Jul 2016 09:09:54
IT

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FRIENDLY!

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30 Jul 2016 09:21:55
Blue john just gave you it.

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30 Jul 2016 09:37:31
Fears and worries!?! What has the world come to? We Have to sign 3 or 4 quality players to beat relegation! I don't post much but this post is priceless. Give Moshri, Walsh, Koeman and everyone else at the club a break for crying out loud, they've been at the club for how long!? With someone in charge that actually knows what they are doing If we didn't sign anyone we wouldn't be anywhere near the bottom three. Get a grip and get behind the team already, it's pre-season.

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30 Jul 2016 09:44:48
Hey BlueJohnUns, I am aware that it was a friendly. It was also a friendly for the German 2nd division team too. Your big letters do not reassure me as much as NBTB though. Seriously though, they looked like a team whereas we looked like a bunch of players who had no idea about what was expected of them. Panic in defence was a constant. In reality they could have scored a bagful and we could have scored one or two. Lukaku is a necessity in my humble view and should Chelsea offer us 100 million we should turn them down unless we have another 20 goals a season striker around to buy. Other than him and maybe the odd one from Barkley and Del boy and Mirallas. I just don't see where they will come from. Yes it was a friendly. They are for obtaining fitness. Ok on that one. Trying different tactics. Ok on that one too. And guaging players with a new manager. I think he will have guaged quite a bit from that performance. Spurs in 2 weeks? We will see how a very good team does against us. not a German 2nd division one.

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30 Jul 2016 10:53:41
DogPukePeter, wwho said anything about not being behind the team. I would never stand by me in the Gladwys Street Lower section. You end up deaf! This is a banter site where I am allowed to view my thoughts on progress/ decline. I aactually think we were pretty close to relegation last 2 seasons. If you remember 2 seasons ago when Lukaku did not score for a while and we went 11 games without a win. then we battled a few out at the end of the season toclimb to 11th. Likewise, last season, when Lukaku looked disinterested. we looked rubbish. Well, if Stones goes and Lukaku goes. big ifs I know. but even if only Stones goes and Chelsea keep on trying to sign Lukaku and he loses interest again. after all, he behaves like a big kid. I agree that the new money is welcome. I agree that Koeman might be a great manager. I agree that Walsh was a brilliant aquisition. But we have signed a 33 year old keeper so far and lost 3 squaad players. The kids coming through look very good but are not yet ready for first team starts in my opinion. So if we lose another player or two. who knows how we will deal with it?

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30 Jul 2016 10:56:22
As I mentioned on an earlier post, it will take time for the team to get out of the bad habits instilled by the previous management and to adapt to the new tactics. No need to panic just yet.

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30 Jul 2016 11:02:31
My laptop seems to have a sticking a button. Makes me look like I am a Mr Koeman Dutch supporter! Greaat! Good Maanaager!

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30 Jul 2016 11:15:11
I am not actually panicking Blue Tommy. More a feeling of resignation that things are going against us somewhat. I too hope that it is bad habits and the manager can changee whatever needs to be changed to make the difference needed. However, what I saw last night waas not good. I saw very little positive stuff. Especially when you saaw the staandard of opposition. They were far superior as a team yet are a 2nd division German team. Slight positives: Del Boy looked lively. Mirallas looks like he wants a start. There was less messing about with fullbaack to fullback passing.

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30 Jul 2016 12:24:30
I know we disagree quite often Degsy, but I can certainly understand where you're coming from this time. Things are going against us. It does feel like we haven't had much luck with transfer targets this summer. For the first time in my lifetime we actually have some decent money to spend on improving the squad, and it seems like either:
a) The players we are aiming for don't want to play for us without Europe, or
b) The players we want are being priced out of the move either by excessive valuation or greedy agents.

I'm starting to get a little edgy, but I like to believe that Walsh is quietly working behind the scenes and that we will have some new players in the next 2 weeks.

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30 Jul 2016 12:35:10
Degsy, you are getting more miserable with each post you make! Let's put it into context mate, we played a team, albeit from the German 2nd tier, who are further along the road in pre-season than we are. Therefore, their fitness levels were always going to be a bit better. We didn't play too well at times but, at the same time, we didn't get slaughtered did we? These games are designed to get us fitter and to slowly acclimatise to the new manager and the system he wants us to play. How many friendlies have we played so far? In only a few games did you really expect us to be firing on all cylinders? You are being slightly unrealistic with your assessment.
Bottom 3? Come on man, you really need to have a word with yourself! If RM was in charge then I would have reservations but he is long gone. The football we played that kept us in the bottom half will be nowhere to be seen this season, we will have more than a plan A to mix it up a bit. Yes the squad needs a couple of additions but that will come before the end of the window, no doubts about it. This is not the Everton of old, this is Moshiri's Everton. It's a new era and one which will see us strengthened in every department as FM puts his stamp on the club. Stop getting wound up over friendly games, they have little meaning when you look at the bigger picture. We will be fine Degsy but, for now, it's probably safer if you hand over your belt and your laces to your mrs :)

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30 Jul 2016 12:30:26
Jesus boys it was a friendly played with high intensity something the players needed it will be the same today the result means nothing although I would rather win it's all all about getting the players fit to last 90 mins whereas under Roberto del boy was done after 60 mins and the other players didn't do much running.

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30 Jul 2016 13:43:21
My missus bought me some new shoelaces yesterday. Asked me to peel the potatoes too. Do you think she is trying to tell me something? Seriously, I am not miserable. What will be will be. I would still be supporting EFC if they were playing Forest Green Rovers every week. I just give my honest assessment on the club and progress. I stated it 3 years ago that we were going backwards and got shouted down then too. A couple of posters got quite abusive towards my posts. But I would be lying if I came on and said I believed the short term future was rosey. I actually believe our long term future is very rosey. Particularly with the signing of Walsh. I had already suggested that the Southampton player spotting system was what made them so good. not particularly Mr Koeman. although he obviously played a part. In Mr Walsh we have an ideal man to support Koeman with astute buys. However, in my very humble opinion (and I was known to be wrong once or twice before) things will have to get worse before they get better. And I hate to see my fellow Blues getting so excited now when they may be totally dejected soon. I see so much wrong with our squad. People are putting too much emphasis on the negative effect of Martinez's coaching. I think his signings were suspect too. But I won't go into my usual previous posts about not getting goalscorers and not replacing ageing players with better ones or younger ones. let's see how we get on against Spurs first.

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30 Jul 2016 13:43:21
My missus bought me some new shoelaces yesterday. Asked me to peel the potatoes too. Do you think she is trying to tell me something? Seriously, I am not miserable. What will be will be. I would still be supporting EFC if they were playing Forest Green Rovers every week. I just give my honest assessment on the club and progress. I stated it 3 years ago that we were going backwards and got shouted down then too. A couple of posters got quite abusive towards my posts. But I would be lying if I came on and said I believed the short term future was rosey. I actually believe our long term future is very rosey. Particularly with the signing of Walsh. I had already suggested that the Southampton player spotting system was what made them so good. not particularly Mr Koeman. although he obviously played a part. In Mr Walsh we have an ideal man to support Koeman with astute buys. However, in my very humble opinion (and I was known to be wrong once or twice before) things will have to get worse before they get better. And I hate to see my fellow Blues getting so excited now when they may be totally dejected soon. I see so much wrong with our squad. People are putting too much emphasis on the negative effect of Martinez's coaching. I think his signings were suspect too. But I won't go into my usual previous posts about not getting goalscorers and not replacing ageing players with better ones or younger ones. let's see how we get on against Spurs first.

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30 Jul 2016 14:21:17
Dog Puke. You are absolutely right mate. Don't take no notice of degsy. I've never once seem him look at the positives. We've all tried to educate him but sometimes people are just beyond help.

He'd make a great funeral director but he'd never make a manager.

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30 Jul 2016 14:28:45
Think she should stop buying you shoes with laces pal, get some with velcro! You are only stating the obvious with regards to Walsh and RK mate, we all know what they are about. But I fail to see why things will get worse before they get better, we have already been through the rough times with RM's last 2 seasons so I can't see how it can get any lower? I don't see this squad being in a relegation battle at all, not under RK anyway. There will be more discipline than RM had previously, players will be kept on their toes rather than be a shoe-in for a starting place regardless of loss of form. I don't think we can ever put too much emphasis on how bad things were under the last manager, he was not good enough to manage a prem team and his last 2 seasons proved as much. I expect more from our new manager. He may have had a few dodgy signings, even the best managers have bought bad players, but that was the least of my problems with Roberto. His stubbornness was unreal, no plan b etc etc.
Again, I have to disagree with your comment 'I hate to see my fellow blues getting so excited now when they may be totally dejected soon'. If we, as fans, can't get excited over the changes we have seen since February then what can we ever get excited about? We have the investment we have craved for decades, we have a well respected manager who has played at the highest level and knows his onions. We have a new DoF who has been proven over a long period of time at various clubs in a scouting role, discovering some gems of the game. We have more cash to spend than we have ever had to improve the squad. New stadium talks have been progressing well and, under FM, it is more likely that we will find a new home. There have been significant changes throughout the club to make us more competitive. That, for me, is something to get excited about in comparison to the barren years we have endured in the premiership era. The future for Everton FC is brighter than it has been for many, many years Degs. Tag along for the ride mate, you might be pleasantly surprised!

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30 Jul 2016 19:58:38
I aagree with all you say there spudv except for one bit. So far all the money, Mr Koeman and Mr Walsh and Mr Mori have brought in a 33 year old goalkeeper. At the same time, we have lost 2 of our most creative midfielders and a totally reliable right back who bleeds blue blood. This is on top of quality signings of the standard of Kone, McGeady and Niasse. A Premier League sqad is a max of 25 players. We may yet lose our leading scorer and best prospect since Rooney (in my opinion) . That equals a big chunk of our squad being quite inferior and so far it looks like we are signing no one of immense quality. although I agree that may change. I don't want to go through old stuff again, but the midfielders of Barry, Besic, McCarthy and Cleverly have got less goals than a standard football pitch in a season. If and it is a big if. Lukaku goes I would say we are in a pickle. I do not see any evidence of Mr Koeman being able to set us up in a more disciplined way but yes you may be right and I will wait and see. But whilst all this has been going on, clubs like West Ham, Southampton, Leicester City, our horrible noisey neighbours and the other "top" Euro clubs have all been making signings of some quality. I believe we are lagging behind. Yes Mr Walsh will help with maybe 2 signings now and another couple each transfer window. These players will need time to bed in and this period is the time I mean when I say things might get worse before they get better. Other clubs seem to have their squads sorted. Ours has been neglected.

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30 Jul 2016 08:10:39
Rumours that city have offered £40m and won't budge, I do hope we stand firm on this and Lukaku as well. We've set our values for the players and we shouldn't budge either!

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30 Jul 2016 08:39:41
Yeah I saw that too. They have enough millions if they want him badly enough. Time will tell.

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30 Jul 2016 08:01:40
Well guys what's everybody's thought on the stones and lukaku's situation do you think they will be everton players when the season starts chelsea and city annoying the hell out of me now.

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30 Jul 2016 08:24:34
Stones is off mate. City have gone public and BBC say valuation appears to be close. So I am guessing we are out looking for a replacement before a deal is allowed. Lukaku. no idea. But I hope not because after watching last night. and I know it is pre season, we looked as bad as last season. Only Lukaku seems to have a regular goal in him.

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30 Jul 2016 09:05:22
I agree with you degsy. Stones has to go because he doesn't want to play for us, as for lakarku if we lose him we are dead and buried so someone has to get their finger out and get quality in now. ps I, ve just heard the gueye, deal is off, well, well, well.

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30 Jul 2016 10:56:14
Gueye deal can only be off if he wants to go to another team. We have matched the buy out clause. Villa are legally bound by it.

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30 Jul 2016 00:10:59
One thing is for certain is that Koeman hasn't come to Everton for mediocrity that's for sure. This is why I have faith in the club over the coming weeks ahead.

Koeman will be backed in the transfer market!

Just remember one thing, huge transfer fees for so called marquee signings don't guarantee class.

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