30 Oct 2013 20:46:57
I don't know if anyone agrees with me on this, but when it comes to meeting other supporters, I get fed up with all the so called "top" club's supporters. They all seem up their own jacksey's. They spout on and on about trophies and talk crap about stuff they don't even seem to understand. However, when I meet a (eg) Doncaster Rovers or lower league season ticket holder, they are humble and real supporters. Most would really love Everton to come good and knock a few of the big money spenders to one side. I think that this is really unfortunate and we will never again see the likes of Nottingham Forest rising through the leagues to win the Champions League never mind the Premiership. Only the ones with rich American owners, Arab owners or Russian convict owners will be able to this and I think this is a big shame.
Degsypulford
Couldn't agree more. Don't want to go all anti Liverpool, but a lot of their supporters I know are really patronizing. One said about Fellaini that he's playing "at a different level now", as if Everton was a paper round and he'd gone to work on Wall Street.
Earlier post re: Red Bull warned against taking investment for investment's sake, which I also think is spot on. There aren't many Kenwright supporters on here, but at least we have a Chairman who's from the city, supports the club, understands the local people and wants sustainable growth. Cardiff should be a warning to many wannabe Chelseas that you may have to sell your soul to achieve even mediocrity.
Degsypulford again. nice post Kenny and Bill Kenwright is one point I will even be more forceful about. If any of the anti-Kenwright posters had actually met the guy and talked with him for any length of time, they would soon realise the guy has blue blood running through his veins. I don't mean standing there and slagging him off in a meeting, I mean sitting down and discussing past and present Everton teams. The guy couldn't be more blue. It really gets up my nostrils when I hear people questioning his loyalties. I think back to the Peter Johnson days.
Degsypulford
I agree, Bill Kenwright is a man of a quallity lacking in in todays modern game, he is an true gentleman, I have had personal dealing with him due to an illness in my family, all sorted now. but a nicer man united could not wish to meet, and sincere.
said all along he might not have money, but he will only do what's best for Everton, and ok so what if he gets a few quid out of it I wish him all the luck in the world.
Steblue69
Bill Kenwright is a man who conducts himself with a lot of class and dignity. Yes he can be a bit dramatic, but that is down to his passion for the club. Between him and martinez we have areal class act.
Toffee ace
31 Oct 2013 15:02:07
I think there are quite a few BK supporters Ken, I personally like the guy, I know he is not a billionaire but he loves the club and is a proper supporter, unlike some of the owners around nowadays mate.
For some reason some fans blame everything on him when there are other board members with a hell of a lot more money simply sucking money out of the club.
It just looks like there are not many supporters of his when someone comes on here slating the guy and not many have the balls to back him up.
IBABWT
No one dismisses his love of everton or his skills as a talker .but the facts are facts he has failed to move club on .as we are doing well the same kenwright fans come out and criticise fans who have concerns over non progress off the field . A few dynamic changes on the board might help sick off the same old Masonic type people who contribute nothing in any off field activities .so degsy and all other kenwright fans its easy to shout when your doing well .me like many other fans u deem to criticise feel we are hamstrung by a board who have no real ambition .
The same man who was forced to have Agms again, the same man who ignored half a fan base over Kirkby, a man who failed over the kings dock .a man who has lied or at the very least failed on major issues .do me a favour he's the chairman of everton, a major institution .to compare other clubs is easy . {Ed025's Note - i dont know your age mate, but you sound like a 12 year old brat who,s parents cant afford the latest nike trainers, so does nothing but moan and criticise because he cant get his own way, we know we cant afford the big players or stadia, but we get on with supporting the side, and yes the chairman, who does his best for the betterment of the club, so stop whining and support!..
Sitting here reading this rubbish about blue bill .to those supporters who think he's a saint, read up on your history that u sing about .we have been one of the best run football clubs who were one of the pioneers in English football .sadly over the last 20 years are standards have dropped hence are aspirations have dropped .all u kenwright fans need to go to real blue country get an education on everton .most everton fans I know don't take him seriously or his spiel there's not hate towards him {Ed025's Note - thats your view mate, and your entitled to it...but dont think you speak for all of us!..
I think am with fans who understand the heritage and heart of are club and most importantly its history, so ed your right I'm not with u
I think that whether u like it or not ed, kenwright splits the fan base, that in itself says a lot . {Ed025's Note - if you could give me an alternative to bill, then i would listen. but like so many you mouth off, without providing a reasonable solution to the problem!..
I notice that the bill bashers haven't put their names on their posts.
Blue Lee
I was just about to say the same thing Blue Lee!
Hank
Degsypulford again. I seem to have started the usual "banter" which is what it is all about. I have to say the ones knocking BK quote a load of statistics about Kirby, Kings Dock stadium, lack of progress in recent years etc. My response to this is that if any of you take the time to look, there is now an elitist "club" called Champions League qualification. Each year it means a guaranteed minimum of 25 million. Advancement to the group stages means 50 million plus. It also attracts certain players. CFC, LFC, MUFC, AFC, and more recently MCFC have had "false" foreign investment from rich sugar daddies. This has enabled them to create the top 4 scenario from which our neighbours have just recently suffered. Only by having rich sugar daddies have they managed to look like they might get back in. I admit BK does not have the finances to get us into this club. We await a decision on him selling to a similar rich sugar daddy. So far he has failed in this. In my view that is his only failure. However, he has employed top quality staff and still does so. The years before him were what caused our problems. Lack of investment and foresight in the late 80's and early 90's. If you add up the years the "top 4" had within the Champions League, and equate that to an average 50 million per year, it means they had over 550 million more than us to spend on wages and new players. And that is not including the money pumped in by the yanks/russian/arabs etc.
This is one of the reasons Arsenal have struggled recently. No individual sugar daddy bankrolling them and an expensive stadium. I think we have done fantastic to even hang on to the top 4 shirt tails. We really do need the sugar daddy. It is the only way for the club to get into the champions league on a regular basis. Or we will always be also rans. whoever the chairman is. BK says this regularly and anyone who thinks he is holding the club back on purpose needs locking away in a soft padded cell.
Degsypulford {Ed025's Note - cracking post that degsy mate..
31 Oct 2013 21:15:22
As always a great post other Degsy, enjoyed that mate
Degsybluenose
To be a successful con man united need to be an world class liar. Mission accomplished BK, he's fooled you all! {Ed025's Note - i may be wide of the mark here mate?...but something is telling me your not a big fan of his.. :)
I just hope BK and the board have their priorities right. We need a new stadium. That's all we need. There is no need for ridiculous investment on players and stupid wages. We have everything in place to be a really successful team, mixing it with the worlds best. Under RM we have a footballing philosophy. Our training facilities are first class and we have one of the countries best academies and our scouting network has proved to be one of the most successful in Europe in terms of money out and money in for the same players. On top of all of this, we have amazing support. We have one thing missing. The stadium. Period. Every moment of every day, those employed at the club to 'think' better be thinking abut one thing: how the hell do we fund it. Can argue we need a sugar daddy, I have seen too many portsmouths and not enough Citys to lay hope there. We need a business partner like a tesco or help from the council. A 50,000 seater with corporate facilities and a football philosophy/infrastructure is the foundation upon which Borrusia Dortmund was reborn 4 years ago after almost going out of business. The blueprint is there. We have one ingredient, we just need the other.
Hank
Sorry Hank, I don't agree with you. And here is why.
1. We have done fantastically well in recent years buying low and selling high. This has brought extra profit into the club which has also been re-invested in quality players. However, the quality was bought in the bargain basement. Look at the so called top clubs. They are spending 40, 50, 60 million each year on proven quality players.
2. The example of Portsmouth you give just re-emphasises my point. Harry Rednapp has continually over-spent in his career and left clubs in a financial mess. Portsmouth did invest quite a bit but it was money they did not have and when the regular success did not come, meltdown was the result. Blackburn are another example.
3. We cannot expect to continually find these bargain players and at the same time reside in the old stadium with a home fan base of 39k max. However, I do agree that the stadium is a priority.
Degsypulford