Everton Banter Archive September 30 2016

30 Sep 2016 23:19:02
I think this season is going to be one of the most frustrating seasons in a really long time. Relegation is no longer a worry, however this side must be given time to adjust to the new regime. Martinez nearly killed this club and we have a long way back before talking top 6 etc. There are games this year where we will play like a Barcelona and then games where we will play like A Sunday team. Our best and worst is a long way apart. That's the reality of this team. So let's enjoy the wins and don't get too downcast on the losses.

30 Sep 2016 21:40:57
Barkley looked a broken man when he walked off after being substituted he needs dropping and we have to stop saying he is one of us.

30 Sep 2016 22:27:52
I thought he was woeful plenty of running around but the ball bounced off him to the oppostion all night please pls get creative midfielders in January they r a must. At least we didn't get beat thankfully.

30 Sep 2016 22:07:11
Sorry guys if Martinez was still in charge we would want his head! Koeman has to turn this around!
We have not played a top side yet and it's not good enough!

{Ed025's Note - hes only 7 games in to his tenure wakka, its a building job he said so give the guy a break will you mate..

30 Sep 2016 22:18:18
Talk of the title, top 4 and Koeman being the Messiah was ludicrous after 5 games. Now let's see where we are in a few months, midtable is my guess and about right for the players we have.

30 Sep 2016 22:20:01
It's tough Ed025 same players but no improvement tonite, I saw this happening earlier even had a bet on a draw, at what point other than changing personnel will it improve? 4-2-3-1 but only one natural wide player in the 3? Sorry Ed025 but I have to question what's really improving?
If we want to move up a level we must constantly question our improvement and at this point it needs to be better, we have played nobody in the top 6 yet and we are struggling!

{Ed025's Note - for me its a work in progress wakka and until RK gets his own players in or the present crew can adapt then its going to be tough, have patience mate and i know its not great at the moment but it will pay off in time..

30 Sep 2016 22:26:29
Ed025: RK said he'll need a few transfer windows to get the squad/ team he wants for Everton. A lot of the current players aren't good enough - and several others are the wrong side of thirty - so replacements will be needed. Give him a chance!

{Ed025's Note - i concur sid, it wont be his team till next season and then if its still poor we can start asking questions mate, its a bit early yet to be judging the guy..

30 Sep 2016 22:28:51
We are a million miles from being any sort of contender, let's keep plugging away and hopefully we will see an improvement, but as the old saying goes you cannot make a silk purse from a sows ear! Say no more.

30 Sep 2016 22:45:16
This is our transition season and we will have many more games like tonight were teams come to frustrate and use aerial ability to expose our lack of height. There were many times that the Palace back line and midfielders were allowed to bring the ball down and turn defence into attack due to us not closing down quick enough. Koeman wants all players including the front men to close down the ball to force errors and play with a high intensity pressing game. He cannot be expected to achieve this after 7 games with almost the same personnel who have never been trained to play this way. I have not set my expectation high for this season and would be happy with a top 8 finish and then with a season under his belt and a full pre season without an international tournament we can hope to see Koemans team playing his way.

{Ed025's Note - good post that gray..

30 Sep 2016 22:57:40
bluegray87: a well-reasoned post.

30 Sep 2016 23:21:27
Have a look at Koemans interview with Carragher on Sky Sports, he mentions how this is his expectation and his philosophy to not only play good football and work with the ball but also to work hard when not in possession to win the ball back. So far the only players who I can say have bought into this are Barry, Gueye, Baines and Coleman. Now that's 4 out of 10 outfield players. If your front men and wide men aren't doing the pressing then the midfield is exposed and that was apparent tonight with the time the Palace midfielders had to control and turn. Yes we need flair to unlock defences but we also need discipline to control games and set the tempo.

30 Sep 2016 23:23:48
It is like some of you (toffeeapple) just switch off when anything is posted or happens to disagree with your view point. Koeman has already stated it will take 2 years. No we will not finish mid table, we will finish top 7.

01 Oct 2016 12:47:06
No Bill. I'm just not deluded like some of you. Koeman is not a top manager and our squad is weak compared to teams that the likes of you think we will be finishing above. You can say what you like William, I couldn't care what you post. Keep dreaming.

30 Sep 2016 18:33:32
Important we get back on track tonight if not doubts over the RK revolution will start.
Convincing win please!