Everton Banter Archive April 03 2014

03 Apr 2014 23:20:49
ED - You don't like my notes by not posting them so I guess I am off eleswhere - forever blue. See ya all.

{Ed025's Note - i have posted all that i have recieved from you TT, are you sure you have looked on all the pages?..

04 Apr 2014 00:25:57
Ed025, you must work round the clock on this site. Do you get overtime rates or is it just the love of fellow evertonians views that keeps you here? Take a break and I don't mind if u post this tomorrow morning!

{Ed003's Note - work and ed 025 in the same sentence caused serious tech probs please dont mention them again -sorry for the delay.}

03 Apr 2014 19:50:32
Our younger players - especially those at the U-21 level - seem to fall into three categories:
(1) Those like Barkley, Stones, Lukaku, and Deulofeu (all aged just 20) who are good enough to play for the first team or like Browning and Garbutt who are worthy of a place in the first team squad and on the subs' bench.
(2) Those who aren't deemed ready for our first team squad yet and need to get competitive football by going out on loan to lower-division clubs. I wonder how many of those - in particular Duffy and Velios - will be retained this Summer.
(3) Those who still need to have time to develop in our own U-18 and U-21 setups before having a period on loan and/or showing the ability & attitude to move straight into our first team squad.
If my analysis is correct, then which of the younger players do other posters expect to leave in the Summer?

I reckon it'd be Gueye, Vellios and Duffy. But I say Duffy only because he won't be getting passed Stones into the 2nd choice for the right center back position. So he'll probs leave for more game time.

Apparently Gueye played a good game for the U-21s this evening and scored the side's two goals. Did anyone go to the match and can give a review?

04 Apr 2014 00:04:25
Thinking guaye may actually have a role to play at efc in martinez system, but that will all hang in the balance based on magaye's determination, willingness to go out on loan to further his strengthening progress and finally his heart to become a efc player. He isn't the quickest of wingers, but certainly has potential, bags of skill and knows where the net is to still be a good winger. Not all about pace on the wing although it does help. The best wingers in the world are blessed with both skill, pace and finishing ability (ronaldo, messi), if maguye can progress two of the 3 qualities, he would still be a good asset to our squad and importantly still has age on his side to progress his skill.

{Ed025's Note - as much as i hope im wrong craig, i just dont see him reaching the required level mate..

I myself think gueye will end up leaving this summer! I don't think Duffy will be a world beater!more like championship standard!i think that stones will be the only prospect that will get a real chance next season but I'd prefer it a few more were givin experience especially if we get 5th and are against average opposition in the group stage ov the Europa league!plus we'd need fresh legs with the amount of games we'd have to play!

Martinez could see Gueye developing into a decent back up cm. I watched a few reserve games last season and he was played in the cm role a couple of times and just behind the striker aswell and he played excellently. Remember a couple of seasons ago he had a little run in the first team grabbed a few goals and proved to be pretty useful

I think we should keep hold of him for 1 more season and then make a decision on him

03 Apr 2014 16:31:54
What if Liverpool want us to get fourth so that they can win the league? We face Man City at home and they would need us to win that.

I don't think they NEED us to do anything - it's completely in their own hands.

03 Apr 2014 15:14:01
Just another bitter post from me. about the lack of bottle showed by the FA. I read about the reduced allocation of tickets at the recent away Arsenal game which they justified by "Health and Safety". As we all know, if you ever want to get away with something, you quote the old "health and safety" bit and nobody can argue a thing about it. Then there are the "fair play rules", which clearly state that monies generated have to be from footballing generated profits. Look at the top of the table (yes it hurts) and see an example of a club that has blatantly disregarded these rules and have run at a loss of approx 100mill pa for the last 3 years. I suggest we also get a rich owner in and when the FA query our finances, we blame them on health and safety!

With some of those clubs, the words I think of are not "health & safety", but "wealth & shady" ;-)

Hiya Sid, how it going? Long time no speak, hows the missus?

Whose missus? I have to be careful about which ones to mention - a true gentleman must be discreet ;-)

A very good answer. Well played

03 Apr 2014 11:54:18
I have not posted for a while. But here goes with some info. re my worries and concerns that our lack of goals (if Lukaku leaves) will cost us and so far lack of signing of players who will contribute goals. I hear that RM is saying that nothing is finalised on Lukaku. it will be dealt with at the end of the season. He adds that he has been stockpiling the monies that came in for Felli, Anichebe and Jelly. This added to Premier League monies will mean that we need to create a squad of 21 players. If we qualify for Europe, that squad will need to be 27. That is an extra 6 players. RM says that some of these can be promising kids but the rest will be signings. I know this season is not over yet, but it looks like we are in for a very busy summer. let's hope he has some real quality lined up.

{Ed025's Note - your right degs, and lets hope this world cup does not inflate the prices too much, and that we get some business done early..

Forget the premier league money as that goes straight to the bank like it does every season.

Whichever way you look at it Mike S, he is saying we are going on a bit of a spending spree. He is also on about putting in an indoor pitch at Finch Farm and some sleeping quarters for youngsters and generally updating the place. He used the word stockpile and the figures for players we need came from RM's mouth.

What I like is that RM is talking about improving the club's training facilities, the development of our young players, the deeper squad we need to compete in Europe and domestically - which all sounds like a man with a longer term plan who isn't going to move on if a so-called "bigger" club comes in for him. Of course, it'd be mighty difficult for him - especially being a Catalan - to turn down a club like Barcelona, but RM sounds like a man who'll see his work-in-progress at Everton through to a very successful (and well established) level. If and when RM does move on, then it seems odds-on that Duncan Ferguson is being groomed to be manager - whatever some supporters' views are of his behaviour and character. Anyone got any other insights?

Your post was an interesting read Sid, I think Dunc could end up be a great manager for us in the future and we have a good set up for him to be groomed under

{Ed025's Note - im probably out of line here tony, but to me he does not seem to be typical management material..

Degsy! Great to see you mate, look forward to locking horns again. Previously you were talking about our lack of goals this season. Well in your absence we have stuck a couple past Cardiff, 3 past Swansea, 3 past Newcastle and 3 past Fulham with 9 different scorers (although one was an own goal). In Roberto's first season we are on course to score more goals than we did in any one season under David Moyes. But youve now turned attention to next season and I agree. The inevitable return of Lukaku and Europe on the horizon means we have some work to do this summer. But isn't it much nicer to be worrying about whose coming in than the usual whose going out? (Other than the loans of ofcourse) Whose your shout to fill the striker void? I hope for Loric Remy

Cowpat I think a lot of this Martinez potentially being on the radar of other clubs has popped up at just the right time. We have a sniff of top 4. And the smell is quite nice. So the establishment need to destabilise us somehow. Few false rumours that the gaffer is on his way in a couple of rags I wouldn't wipe your a** with could work wonders. But we won't fall for that. Like you say I see Roberto here for the long term.

Oli Jennings: I completely agree that the so-called "bigger" clubs have their propagandists in the media looking to transfer our players and staff. Those clubs can't bear the idea of Everton - or any other club - taking their place in the money-spinning Champions League. They must keep us outside the top four or suffer loss of finance, loss of prestige, and loss of their own quality players.
Like most pundits, if the lazy journos publish all of the claptrap then when one of the "stories" actually comes true they trumpet their predictions - it's funny how the deluge of false predictions and other garbage is swept under the carpet. Of course, the problem is that we supporters crave every bit of info and snippet of gossip and we love the craic - so the media will stay employed and newspapers will still sell and Sky and BT subscriptions will still be taken.

03 Apr 2014 01:27:10
Can't wait for this weekend lads early mornin start on saturday get the coupons on hit the local for a few then off to the races and town after that then wake up 2 a full english and watch us smash the gooners COYB!

{Ed025's Note - sounds great don, but dont forget your lap dance mate,,