Everton Banter Archive September 03 2017

 

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03 Sep 2017 22:26:02
I was thinking over this Barkley situation and perhaps in Jan he decides to move or perhaps we keep him until the summer, he's playing with fire a bit if he has international aspirations as this is a World Cup year and he will need to be playing to break into that squad, like a lot have pointed out next summer he will be 24 so can leave on a free and no compensation due but if he's not played and doesn't go to the World Cup then he will be 28 when then next one comes round! And if he has to wait until then he may as well just hang up those international boots now which would be a shame.
The lad really needs someone to sit down and have a word with him, Pienaar would be good as he found out the hard way!
Personally I feel this was no longer a footballing decision and purely financial!

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04 Sep 2017 09:32:07
If its Financial Southern Toffee he is stupid going to Spurs as they have a salary cap there and players like Alderweireld have already stated unless they get new terms they will look to leave (his agents words) so will Ross get better terms than those Everton allegedly offered? I doubt he will as that will put him on par with Kane and Lloris and therefore open the floodgates for other players to demand similar. The question he needs to ask himself is 'were will I get game time? ' Everton? Probably not a starter, Spurs? Definitely not a starter, Chelsea? Definitely not a starter, that leaves what?
He needs to hope Arsenal come in for him because he would probably get a game there as Carzola is out injured, Sanchez and Ozil are probably both off and Jack Wheelchair is always injured.
My take is our physio rang him and told him with Gibson and Oviedo already gone he was bored so needed company haha.

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04 Sep 2017 14:35:18
It has been widely reported that Ross Barkley was offered a new contract by Everton, but declined to sign.
Whether the offer was a genuine attempt to keep a player that RK actually rates is a moot point in my opinion.
It might have just been a ploy to eventually get a bigger transfer fee because although he’d still leave he'd have longer remaining on his contract.
However, looking at the fees being paid for players in similar situations (e. g. Oxlade-Chamberlain and, indeed, Chelsea’s offer for Barkley) this is no longer such a problem in the current world of mind-boggling transfer fees.
I'm not “in the know”, but I wonder (not that it's really any of my business - even as a fan) about several aspects of this story;
Does the player have issues with RK (and vice versa! ) that mean the player wants/ needs to work under a different coach/ manager;
Does the player have personal issues living on Merseyside and needs to get away;
Does the player feel “down the pecking order” following the signing of other players and doesn't see the opportunity to play enough at Everton to get into England’s World Cup squad;
Does he (or more likely his agent! ) want more money than is being offered at Everton;
Does he simply feel at an age (he’ll be 24 in December) where he needs a fresh challenge elsewhere?
There are many opinions being bandied about, but surely only the player (I would hope! ) and his agent (more likely! ) know what's at the root of all this.

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04 Sep 2017 16:00:48
Get rid and get over it. The lad is a div but he clearly knows what he wants. He wants Spurs. Why the hell should he sign for another club? I actually respect him for walking from Chelsea and stating the club are trying to force that move on him. As a club we probably could have handled the "kidology" Koeman tried a little better? The club have dropped the ball on this one.

Ross wants a move, he is clearly prepared to stay in an uncomfortable situation as he knows what he wants. (The opposite of the impression the fans have) Fair play to him. He wants the right move regardless of "world cup year" not that he is anywhere near the England squad at the moment.
If he goes and sits on the bench, why should you care? The same "voices" that were going nuts about the Sigurdsson money, are the ones going mental that the Barkley fee is going to be tiny now. Moon on a stick.

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04 Sep 2017 17:16:28
I reckon he will be off to Chelsea in January. He is injured until then so imagine he was sent back and let us pay his wages until then.

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03 Sep 2017 18:42:17
Just got back from Bradley's game at goodison. Just wanna say well done for blues for organising a good event. Lots of fans from other clubs attending and hopefully raised a lot of money for both charities involved.

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03 Sep 2017 11:09:44
Ross Barkley wants to think his options over in January, no you don't you have a deal already done with Levy, they just didn't want to pay for you or pay your wages till your fit. He's gambled his career on it, I'm not saying he won't go there as everything has been very Rosie over there for few seasons now great manager, new stadium, great players, but football can change very quickly, playing away from WH Lane will be a problem there home form this season will not be as good as last years and I don't think they will make top 4.
This club has not had to worry about loosing players yet but mark my words, it will break up this season, Kane and Alli will be sold if they don't get top 4.

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03 Sep 2017 15:33:44
To be fair True Blue I would have done the same. He doesn't need to sign for anyone now and 4 months in football is a long time and he is probably waiting to see what happens. We will get pretty much the same fee in January as we would have last week if he goes to an English club.

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03 Sep 2017 16:38:35
How do you make that out Smit? We will be lucky to get 10M in January. Can't see Levy paying out 35M. when Barkley only has six months left on his contract.

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03 Sep 2017 18:37:26
We will get around 10 mill next summer as he has been with us through the academy. Ings went for 6mill at the end of his contract so we should be close to 10 mill. I imagine there will be a few after him in january.

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{Ed002's Note - Don't hold your breath about any compensation next summer.}

03 Sep 2017 18:45:36
He's supposed to be a Blue. £10m is nothing nowadays so I'd rather let him rot. don't play him in any of our teams. He doesn't care about Everton so why should Everton care about his career? He is a rat.

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03 Sep 2017 20:14:06
How come Ed would we not be eligible for anything like Ings?

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{Ed002's Note - No, sorry - if Everton want a return then sell him to spurs in January.}

03 Sep 2017 20:28:57
I am not saying he shouldn't wait but he has dug himself a hole, that come January who's to say they will want Barkley in January lots can happen in 5 months, what I'm trying to get at is everyone one seems to be that it will be a given they will be a top 4 team this season.

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03 Sep 2017 20:30:55
Any money Blue Tommy can go towards our squad or U23's. I will be happy if Tottenham come for him in January if we can't get anything for him in the summer. He doesn't want to stay or he would have signed and I don't think RK has faith in him so it's best for him to move on
It's football sometimes things don't work out.

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04 Sep 2017 15:56:42
The best roll for ross is, once fit, is to be made to play for the 3rd team right to the end of the season, not out of spit but as a warning to others who think they can f. the club about. plus, give him a colour tv as a leaving present so he can watch the world cup.

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03 Sep 2017 09:45:32
can any ed tell me what the deal is with Garbutt? can't see him in the 25 man squad or retained list. If Baines get injured i'm pretty sure he's our last LB.

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{Ed025's Note - im not sure whats happening with luke berkshire, he has had back problems which has held him back but i dont know how his fitness is health wise now, i think hes a good player myself but i dont see him day in day out like koeman does so there must be something thats not right mate..

03 Sep 2017 02:34:51
What a nice guy Rooney is risking his licence to get a drunken girl home safe a1 fella and ross thinking of the fans to stay to a lil bit longer what a guy Tom Davies got some big shoes to fill.

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02 Sep 2017 23:59:19
Garbutt not even 25 man squad yet couple season ago he looked so promising.

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03 Sep 2017 10:06:51
Always rated the lad. Obviously successive Managers and their staff see something we don't. In Koeman we trust.

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03 Sep 2017 10:07:18
Why have you started a new post to answer a question?

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