Everton Banter Archive June 04 2013

 

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04 Jun 2013 23:05:18
Right guys please let me make 2 points -
1) Martinez is 99% guaranteed to be our new manger and I think he is a good choice so let's get behind him!
2) All of you going on about this pereira rejecting a new contract at Porto nonsense are forgetting that he might be going to another club other than Everton! I think he is also a good manager but there are clubs like Malaga, Real Sociedad and Valencia looking for new mangers and he could well end up at any of them clubs!
So regardless of who gets the job let's get behind them and stop being so negative!
Do you agree Ed? {Ed025's Note - i do mate..

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Valencia appointed there new manager earlier today mate although I agree on the contract saga part, GarstonBlue.

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It makes me laugh that poeple think that VP is the shining light at the moment, let's face it the only reason we are even intrested is because he is free and I gurantee 80% knew little about him till the last few weeks and months.

All I ask for is a manager that's not anti-football and martinez is a good choice, exspecially considering the managers avaliable at this time

MikeDeBlue

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04 Jun 2013 23:03:17
so bored of manager rumours. we are a top 6 club with the best squad we have had since the 80's and I can't wait for the new season. in (whoever) we trust
Efc4life

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04 Jun 2013 22:57:51
I've mentioned this before, in the days when we were chasing Bobby Robson the plug was pulled because Moores went to the press before Robson had told Ipswich why don't we now do the same and tell Whelan the deal is off sit tight till the 12th June and pick up Pereirer when he becomes available.

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Why would we do that when Bill has obviously picked RM over VP?

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04 Jun 2013 22:41:55
Is it just me or does anyone else think we have conducted ourselves in the most dignified and professional manner bk has shown wigan respect and still gets slated. If some people are honest with them selves bk will never do anything right in there eyes and they will always look for something to moan about. These same people probably don't even put there hand in there pocket once in a while to get a season or match ticket quick enough though to give there opinions aren't they. Even though those opinions are in my eyes deluded. IMartinezWT. LIAM! {Ed025's Note - i agree with you liam..

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04 Jun 2013 22:32:33
Does anyone think negredo would be a waste of money even though he is an undoubtedly good player he is 28 and if we're going to spend 15m+ on a player they need to be

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He was a moyes target, we'll have a new manager soon and he will have his own targets

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04 Jun 2013 22:21:21
Ed and fellow posters. any idea why the procrastination? Jlaff {Ed025's Note - just doing things right jlaff..

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04 Jun 2013 20:11:34
What do you think is taking so long to get deal done for manager ed. {Ed025's Note - doing things properly john..

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Napoli.
Inter.
United.
Stoke.
Wolves.
And now Millwall are all doing it quickly than us.

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United was a done deal months ago, napoli was a done deal a few weeks ago, stoke/wolves/millwall all just took the easy and quick option! would you of prefered BK to do it over night and take on hughes/o'neil etc? I think not

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All these clubs jump in with 2 feet and employ managers who love to the merry go round with clubs, football managers are the only profession were getting sacked means nothing, somebody still thinks there good enough

MikeDeBlue

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We all know the amounts of money in football, and especially the Premier League, the improvement that has been made both on and off the pitch at Everton, that is why this is the most important decision that BK will probably make. To try and quantify the decision BK has to make put it in the position of your employers or school ( I work at LJLA), where the turnover is similar to that at EFC and if the production manager or my case Terminal Manager was to be employed the recruitment process would take about 4 to 8 weeks. So I personally wouldn't be surprised if the new manager or head coach won't be announced till later this or next week even as not only is the top job that needs sorting but also contracts of any incoming or outgoing backroom staff too.

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Took on Hughes/O'Neill etc? Napoli got Rafa, top manager. Inter got Mazzari a top manager. Quicker than us!

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04 Jun 2013 19:26:07
ed do you think anything will happen tonight on the manager front? {Ed025's Note - i would be guessing steve..

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04 Jun 2013 19:14:58
Ed, do you ever just feel like going into hiding when reading all these negative comments. {Ed025's Note - thats a yes..

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04 Jun 2013 21:21:41
Martinez team no signings*

. Howard.
. Heitinga. Distin. Jags.
. Coleman. Gibson. Felaini. Bainse.
. Naismith.
. Mirallas. Jelavic.


what do you think.

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Awful team. Pienaar?

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Naismith over piennar really??

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The most likely side next year.
Howard
Jagielka Distin Alcaraz
Coleman Gibson Fellaini Baines
Mirallas Jelavic McManaman

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05 Jun 2013 00:25:48
Jags distin
Coleman felli gibbo baines
Barkley
Mirrales piennar
Jelavic

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The fact you have started with naismith to me proves you have not seen him play, jelavic would do for subs bench aswell at the moment

MikeDeBlue

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Maybe a new manager can find what rangers had with him

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04 Jun 2013 21:09:46
Look on the bright side people. kenwright could have bit the bullet and brought in mark hughes or pulis or oneil. just get behind our new manager and support him. ryanfromleic

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04 Jun 2013 20:57:09
If we kept all our current squad and added Lukaku and Honda I would be a very happy blue.

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04 Jun 2013 20:42:51
Like a lot of people I would have liked to see VP at the club.
However this doesn't look like its going to happen.
None of this is the fault of Martinez, so stop looking for a bloody scapegoat, and start supporting your team.
As Everton supporters we should be use to disappointment, it happens every transfer window for gods sake.
Whoever gets the job, support him and the team, and let's show them this is not Wigan, it's EVERTON!

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04 Jun 2013 20:39:47
Anyone would think the world had ended the way some of us blues are panicking about the new manager. I don't understand all the worrying. What will be will be. No one knows how the new manager will do or even who it is yet.
So on a lighter note boys. it's probably been done before, but I suggest we all have a go at naming our best eleven of all time. Only players you have watched though!
Mine (this time anyway. I keep changing my mind) is:

Southall,
Stevens, Ratcliffe, Jags, Baines
Steven, Ball, Felli, Kendall
Linekar, Gray

That would be some team to beat!

Degsypulford

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Southall
Stevens Ratcliffe Jags Baines
Steven Ball Sheedy Reid
Latchford Linekar

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Southall
Jags Mountfield Ratcliffe
Steven Bracewell Ball Kendall Baines
Rooney
Latchford Sharp

Subs
Martyn
Carsley
Mckenzie
Lyons
Ferguson
Reid
Van den Hauwe

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Has everyone forgotten about dixie?

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"Has everyone forgotten about Dixie" no, if you read the original post it says only players you have watched, so unless you're about 90 you won't have watched Dixie

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Even I'm not that old mate

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04 Jun 2013 20:37:14
martinez. martinez. marty. marty-nez he, s loosin his hair but we don, t care marty. marty-nez.
welcome to the best club in the world.

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04 Jun 2013 20:22:12
Let's not forget it was BK who brought Moyes to us. IBKWT!

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04 Jun 2013 20:20:54
I think we should bid for negrego, sell baines fellanni, jagielka maybe piennar and coleman and we will be alrite lads wot u rekon

p. s stop the bull and let's get a manager first (martinez) and then we can start playing who can we add to our squad and who we can get rid

dkm

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Dkm. just. no. Sell 5 of our best players? Just no! That would be a disaster. How about we keep hold of those players and build a team around them?

BitterBlue

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Im not the one for comenting on spelling because mine ain't great but that is comical. only kidding. totally agree with your post mate.

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Either a red, or a very non-understanding, ridiculous thoughts Blue.

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05 Jun 2013 03:11:08
sell five players and buy a striker whos above average, glad your not frame for the managers job

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I personally found the op very funny, can't everyone see he's taking the piss? Yano hence the whole ps?

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04 Jun 2013 20:10:29
Why is this announcement taking so long? The more it goes on the more unlikely it's going to be Martinez I think.

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It is Martinez he is going over his terms with his legal team before he signs announcement will be tomorrow some time source tv.

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IF ONLY!

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04 Jun 2013 20:01:05
Howard

Coleman Jagielka DE VRIJ Baines

Gibson McCARTHY

Mirallas Fellaini Pienaar

LUKAKU

Subs: CAMP, Hibbert, Distin, Duffy, Stones, FER, Osman, Barkley, Naismith, INCE, Jelovic, Anichebe

Out:
Mucha, Neville, Heitinga, Hitzsperger, Oveido, Gueye, Vellios

In:
Camp (free)
DeVrij £10m
McCarthy £8m
Fer £7m
Ince £8m
Lukaku (loan)

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Camp went to Norwich didn't he?

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Wouldnt pay that much for De Vrij or Ince.

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So 5m in sales and all them players, have you cheated on champ man?

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04 Jun 2013 19:20:28
Hello Eds and fellow Blues, its been a while since my last post but with interesting times ahead I thought I'd put over my tuppeneth worth.
Although I haven't been posting I have still been reading there esteemed pages and really can't believe all the negativity towards Martinez who was in all probability always going to be the next manager after Moyes.
Let's give the bloke a chance hey folks and if we're doing badly come Christmas then voice our concerns.
We're Everton, we're known and respected in football for the way we conduct ourselves with dignity and decorum, let's keep it that way, please.
Moody Blue

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04 Jun 2013 19:13:24
WELL DONE to EFC's website, you've gone from a S**T media player to a WTF IS THIS s*** media player.

I can't wait to watch next season on "Dial up!"

Thoughts in a telegram!

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We won the award for having the best sporting website in the world?

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I'm with you on that brother just tried to watch stubbsys interview on me ipad and its impossible to put on full screen it just makes the stream pause. Other than that are website is about the best and easiest to navigate. LIAM!

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04 Jun 2013 18:57:49
Hi, been a few days since I posted on here, I have been away on business, still am, I am actually in London but sadly i'm not getting interviewed by BK. Firstly I have no more news or info, all I was ever told was that VP was interviewed we offered him a deal and he by all accounts accepted but wanted to depart Porto in a proper manner. At that time he was the only candidate we had interviewed or met with. That was the case and that is now openly accepted and documented so for everyone who had a go thanks for nothing.
This post is about the worrying trend in Evertonians attitudes, there seems to be a growing a number who turn on over Evertonians, who are angry at the club about something and who for what ever reason will and want to be negative. If Martinez is the new manager then he becomes the best manager out there because he is Evertons manager. We support and back him and push the club forward. We are not fake Chelsea fans who turn on someone before they even start, back him.
My personal opinion from my previous info is that Martinez was not and still is not first choice, if he was and a fee has been agreed then he would have been announced. I think a fee had to be agreed if we opted for him and i'm sure BK wanted and needed to know what sort of figure we were dealing with, doesn't mean he will be the next manager. You can inquire about a player, get a fee, doesn't mean you then go ahead with it.

Anyway it looks like Martinez and I for one will support him all the way its what we are, we are supporters, fans, we support, we don't turn on our own who ever our own turns out to be,

Svenny

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No svenny you told us it was VP and that was that!

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Ime with you mate, sick of negativity of fans on RM, they expect to much because of what moyes achieved, it is poss that VP and Ralph knocked us back when they heard what the deal was.
Get behind whoever takes the job, trust BK he has done his best
Blue60

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No I didn't people ran with that. I said that he was the only manager interviewed, the only manager offered the job and at the time that was 100% accurate.

Personally from what I was told I think its still going to be him, but obviously there are other candidates now

Svenny

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04 Jun 2013 18:47:13
why is it evertonians are negative before we have actually given martinez a chance? it's getting disgusting and a disgrace. give the bloke a chance first before you make judgements. everyone has the right to an opinion but some people on here are just plain negative and want to moan about everything. personally I think martinez will do well

1878barlow

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04 Jun 2013 18:43:17
The silence from the club is deafening. Getting silly now. There's being thorough and there's not having a clue!

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It's not that our silence is deafening it's that we have got a bit of class and don't release anything till all the t's are crossed and all the i's dotted. It's Whelan that's the balloon here not EFC.

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Correct, we don't behave like that tool whelan
blue60

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You know when the silence will end. when there is actually something to report. antefc

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04 Jun 2013 18:23:14
I wouldn't like negredo at us, if we're going to spend money were best getting young talent. No point in spending a tremendous amount on a 27 year old, clubs with money can do this but we can't

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04 Jun 2013 17:52:07
Apparently NEGRADO has turned down west ham not surprised. Because they are a small side I bet if it was us he might say different

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Sevilla have turned the bid down mate, not Negredo. He'd be a good signing for anyone but he'll more than likely go to a CL side who can offer him a big wage, unfortunately.

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For the last time his name is Negredo and we don't need his name is capitals ffs

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Your deluded mate. Everton are no bigger than West Ham (and no, i'm not a hammer).

The problem is you think were all still living in the 80`s when you were a big club.

Reid, Sheedy and Sharp left a long long time ago. {Ed025's Note - no..your a red, a very sad one at that..

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04 Jun 2013 17:33:24
Ed, are you meant to have sources inside the club or are you as clueless as the rest of these persons? Spouting there 'inside info' nonsense. Appreciate the honesty {Ed025's Note - im clueless mate.. :)

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04 Jun 2013 16:39:04
It is interesting reading all these negative comments about BK. I wonder what they would do in his shoes when every time they read the forum they are being being slagged off. An easy way out
is to sell the club to an asset stripper. Take your money and run. OR if you love you club so much is try to get the best deals you can afford which I believe is what BK is doing.
So whoever the manager is and whatever players we get let us get behind this fantastic club called
E F C

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People need to wake up over this investment scenario, bk wants his payday, he's put us 50m in the red, true Johnson played his part but bk has progressively made our situation worse (financially, not league position) an investor is not going to give bk a payday, clear 50m and plough a load of money in as well as a new stadium etc,
The only way out club will be invested in is if Bill hands over the club for nothing, even if the investor has our best interest at heart will Bill hand over the club. Will he F!

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Bill only owns about 25%

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Hey. E F C. that would make a good badge.

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He is the asset stripper! What assets has he left but the team on the pitch! Open your eyes!

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To the still unnamed troll.

It isn't a case of wake up, it is a case of grow up, clearly you have zero experience of owning, operating or managing a business. If you had you would know that the majority of businesses run overdrafts, even if they are big profit makers.

If Bill would sell the club for what it owes him (Yes the money he had to pay agent Johnson to clear off and investment made since) I couldn't comment until such an offer was on the table, as I lack your psychic ability to read his thoughts.

But while we are on the subject of BK if you want to blame someone for the mess Everton FC are in, then look at David Moores, when the family sold control of the club to agent Johnson, despite BK's best efforts to better his offer.

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Wish you would stop this crap. BK just can't win. He could spend millions and put us in bad debt or Carey on the slow progress we have made in last few years where now we have a decent squad
I remember the dark days and we aremuch better off than we were
Blue60

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04 Jun 2013 16:30:31
Did it not occur to you that Peirera might have turned us down? Too many people are assuming that all the mentioned names were desperate to come to Everton. I remain confident that BK has done the best job possible for us.

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04 Jun 2013 16:15:44
Would anyone take Matej Vydra? Been on great form for Watford and only 21. What do you think his price would be Ed? {Ed025's Note - not sure mate..

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04 Jun 2013 18:00:28
Yeh i'd have taken his manager too

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04 Jun 2013 16:15:02
One question I would like to know is where does all the money go? Revenue, sales, tv etc etc, why is it bk still has us in the position we are in?
True there are other clubs with more debt, however they have better grounds, players, and commercial value.
Will bk ever hand over to an investor? we know he's had chances to do so, I just feel he has his own interests at heart instead of the clubs. {Ed025's Note - the bulk goes on wages..these guys dont play for buttons..

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So you believe everything goes on wages, come on ed are you twelve? you can't possibly believe that, I'd love to see a breakdown of where it does actually go! {Ed025's Note - believe me...it does..

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75% of turnover goes on wages, c. £63m (wages). The balance sheets are available should you look for them.

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Getting sick of these conspiracy theorists now,
Evertonconspiracyrumours.com
Uncle Ben

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EVERTON

Accounts for the year to 31 May 2012

Ownership: Shares in the Everton Football Club Company Limited are owned by: Bill Kenwright 25%, Jon Woods 19%, Robert Earl (resident of Florida) 23%

Turnover: 8th in league, £81m (down from £82m in 2011)

Gate and programme sales: £17m

TV and broadcasting: £53m

Other commercial activities: £11m

Wage bill: 10th, £63m (up from £58m)

Wages as proportion of turnover: 78%

Loss before tax: £9m (increased from £5m)

Net debt: £46m

Interest payable: £4m

Highest-paid director: No director was paid; chief executive Robert Elstone is not a director

Popeye

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It would be interesting to see what the real debt is. This doesn't include money due for signings as most are on the HP. It could be another 20 to 25m on top of that £46.

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05 Jun 2013 00:29:09
If you want to compare Everton's finances with the rest of the Premiership use this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/apr/18/premier-league-finances-club-by-club

Popeye

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04 Jun 2013 15:28:21
I never thought I would ever say this, but i'm actually ashamed to be an Everton fan what with all this over reaction towards our new manager. What happened to giving somebody a chance most of you sound just like kopites with your whinging and moaning especially Mushy who is the worst of the lot. I don't care what the moaners think and say, but myself i'm getting behind our new manager because it's the least he deserves. {Ed025's Note - i feel the same mike..

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Completely agree about Mushy I mean I understand that people have a right to voice their opinions but this guy depresses me with his constant negativity!

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I also agree about mushy, don't know the guy but if he ain't got nothing nice to say ect. He's not the only one though
Uncle Ben ( an optimistic bluenose )

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04 Jun 2013 18:23:00
Spot on Mike, regarding mushy mate he only seemed to turn up recently and spouts the most crap on here, its not rocket science for someone from another club to register as a Blue nose.

If you are a Blue Mushy peas then get behind your club and stop moaning like a big tarts handbag

Degsy

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Get off the guys back. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Seems like the bk appreciation society jump on anyone who even question the direction of the club!

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04 Jun 2013 21:46:12
Thanks for that Degsi Martinez Mafia won't stop me from debating issues with fellow blues for against me {Ed025's Note - debate is fine..

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Not the bk appreciation society just SUPPORTERS, like you said he is entitled to be negative and I am entitled to tell him to get a life and stop moaning

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04 Jun 2013 15:23:15
Wasn't able to reply to my post before so il make it simple and this goes to people who don't like martinez or want pereira especially now if martinez is appointed the new everton manager will you back him and show your support? Or will you boo him until he is forced out of goodison?

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Are we somehow disloyal if we express a little bit of understandable concern or confess to not being set alight by his imminent appointment?
I don't think so. It will be a divisive appointment whoever it is, but 99. 99% of real fans will back him regardless of whether he was their first choice or not.
It serves no worthwhile purpose to argue and moan about it and label people this and that because they don't agree. {Ed025's Note - fair points mate..

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04 Jun 2013 20:17:46
I apologise if I seem aggressive it wasnt people having an opinion that annoyed me it was people saying 9 out of 10 evertonions wanted pereira as its not true I will stand by whoever is manager I would be happy with pereira I just think evertonions should stop whining about how they want kenwright out and how martinez is guaranteed to get us relegated when they should support the manager not slate him before he has even joined yet

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04 Jun 2013 15:11:54
Martinez is neither the best manager in the universe as Dave Whelan portrays him or a second hand car salesman as some people are suggesting. The answer lies somewhere between and we should allow ourselves a bit of optimism and a bit of confidence that Bill K. looked at all the options, listened to the plans of the main candidates and then went with his instincts which is all we could expect of him. We may never know why VP or others didn't get the nod. there may have been very good reasons for that. But one thing is certain. BK took the matter very seriously and has tried his best to get us a good manager. He has opted for a guy who struggled to keep Wigan as a league force but was able to dismantle both Everton and City in the cup. So that cunundrum must have come up at interview stage. The reply he got was obviously enough to persuade BK that Roberto Martinez can, with a bit more strength in defence which we have and a bit more cash to add to an ageing squad, take us on to the next stage. let's not pour cold water on something before it has even begun. Nothing but the best is a work in progress and has been for a long while now.
Oscar

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04 Jun 2013 12:58:33
Just found this site, any transfer news ed?

Naughtynat {Ed025's Note - bit early yet mate..

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04 Jun 2013 18:24:08
Were u been then Nat, this is the number one for footie mate, all the rest pale in significance kidder

Degsy

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04 Jun 2013 12:50:21
watching Honda play i've decided that he should be one of our first targets. are talks still on going ed even without a manager at the moment?

AussieBlue {Ed025's Note - we are still interested aussie, but a few more teams are also in for him now..

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04 Jun 2013 15:08:12
Pereirer v Martinez was a no brainer so the club make a complete shambles of it again! Why don't they listen to the fans? Don't we count? please reply.

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Yes u right one of them has prem experience and the other one has no experience of prem.

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Did more fans want Pereira?

Did Pereira want to be manager?

Is he the better option?

Popeye

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Martinez over pereira any day

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04 Jun 2013 15:07:46
Martinez and mcmanaman? Extra few mill?

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04 Jun 2013 15:07:25
Is there any other club who do business the way we drag thing for ages

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Grow up. Any business appointing a top man to a key position will take its time. Everyone is assuming that all the names mentioned in the media really want to come to Everton and that BK just has to sit back and make a choice - life is not like that. Be patient, we'll get there soon enough.

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04 Jun 2013 15:00:02
I'm actually starting to warm to Martinez now and I know I sound like a hypocrite, but if he can sort out his defensive side of the game I think we all could be cheering his name. Also I read Honda ran the show against Australia he was really impressive does anybody know if were still in the frame to sign him as I heard the darkside and Arsenal are also intrested in him but let's hope Martinez can make some good signings. Right so Bill get Martinez signed and let's start adding a bit more quality to the team starting to feel positive again and believe me I missed that feeling coyb IMWT.

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04 Jun 2013 14:52:27
I've been on this site for the best part of two months quietly watching and reading. I appreciate that everyone is entitled to say what they feel about the immenient appointment of Martinez but feel its going a little over the top now.

Other than a passing mention on the news before this site I had never really heard of Vitor pereria so why the big fuss now? we can look at his record until we are blue in the face but it makes no difference frankly, that record was at Wigan, his next record will be at Everton, let the man be judged on that.


It was eleven years ago I was reading and hearing the same things about David Moyes before his appointment. Different managers with very different style but I feel Martinez will do well, don't look to his signings either, it is not an accurate representation. How hard would it be to get a player of good quality to Wigan really, how many overseas players before the FA cup final and really even heard of Wigan.

I know you all will give him a chance but let's try and stop the negativity now, the reason I love being in the stands with other blues is the positivity.

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04 Jun 2013 14:49:35
Serious this!
I emailed BK about Martinez appointment and just had a reply back.

Thank you for writing to Everton Football Club with your views on the managerial position. As the Chairman said, we appreciate, and will consider, all feedback from our fans.

Kind Regards

Paul Tyrrell

Communications Director

Fair enough!

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04 Jun 2013 18:26:11
Bill probably read the first sentence, got depressed and deleted it

Degsy

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04 Jun 2013 14:38:57
Dave Whelan to be announced as the next Everton manager with Mushy as his assistant.
I believe this is a wonderful appointment for us, as they both know more about football than anyone else.

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04 Jun 2013 16:49:21
Don't ever claim it lad but have an opinion which I think many would agree with, if not the manager fair enough but last night was a fiasco. no?
As for supporting the team been doing that since I cried me eyes out when knocked out by Forest at QF stage of FA cup after we two up. That was in 1967 so allow me an opinion please.

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04 Jun 2013 18:27:01
Love it Whitey

Degsy

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Last night wasn't a fiasco, some knob shot his mouth off, that's all, and it wasn't Kenwright.
Its not your right to an opinion that I question, its the self righteous repetition that most annoys.

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04 Jun 2013 14:12:21
Rm to be confirmed tomorrow there's no late change of plan just contracts to be sorted out the he will be confirmed

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Liverpool interviewed him and went with someone else. So no Liverpool didn't want him. Meaning we get their reject.

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Well that's not what I heard, and that actually Brenda was their number two choice.

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04 Jun 2013 18:10:15
I heard the yanks messed him around he went to the states to meet them and he was treated appallingly by them. So returned from the states and told them to do one! {Ed001's Note - load of crap that. He met John Henry, they discussed the job and Martinez told them he wanted full control, so they parted company, as they were intent on a director of football at the time. Martinez was never offered the role, and is on very good terms with John Henry. No one was told to do one, when the decision was made not to go with a director of football, Liverpool picked Rodgers due to the high regard he was held in by the Barca boys at the club, who had worked with him when he was getting his coaching badges. I do wonder how much of a part Whelan's big gob played in the decision though. Who would blame Kenwright for sticking up 2 fingers and hiring someone else after all the mouthing off Whelan has done?}

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Is that a hint Ed001? Is it possible BK could pursue an alternate candidate because motor mouth Whelan's lost his marbles and puts the cat in the fridge? {Ed001's Note - my opinion, and it is only that as no one from the club will talk, is that Whelan is such an arse to deal with that Everton will end up looking elsewhere. Which is why I have always thought it will end up being an internal appointment. Martinez is very keen to take on the role though, so it is only about doing a deal with Whelan, which is not easy with him constantly insulting the club in the media! The guy is a tool and should learn to shut up until afterwards. }

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Cheers 001. Appreciate your opinion and time.

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Ed, i'm impressed, finally someone with a factual understanding of why Martinez never went to Anfield.

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04 Jun 2013 13:50:52
Everyone has opinions and have a fair right to say who they want, like or dislike. So whether you want Martinez, Periera or Rangnick you have a right to say what you want.

Personally I think Maritnez isn't someone who would get the job at Spurs, Arsenal or Liverpool so why would I want him at Everton? If he had blown me out of the water with what he had achieved at Wigan then I'd say he's the man for me but relegation is not good enough.

As for pretty football. No one plays pretty football at any of the top clubs any more, they play penetrative football which we did last season in a number of different ways, even long ball.

He will have a better team at Everton and will have to improve and maintain what we have but you only do this by buying better players than what we have and they are not at Wigan.

I will cheer the team on and support them every week and at every game as I have done for 30 years and I've not liked some of the managers in that time as well. But I just feel this isn't the step up we should have been taking and it is easier to do it when challenging nearer the top than if this goes wrong and we start finishing mid or worse in the table. Try attracting a Periera if that happens.

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BlueJohnUns:

Nice post mate well thought out.

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Wouldnt get a job with Liverpool?

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We have to give him time John. don't forget he is still a young manager and will have things to learn. Like moyes he has an eye for a bargain and I think he will understand what we need. (2 new strikers!). His prem experience will also help us as he will understand other teams strenghts and weakness better than a manager from the other leagues. IMO.

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Great stuff mate I echo everything you said breaks my bloody heart it does.

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I think he played some terrific football at Wigan and I know the table does not lie but I thought they were a better side than some of the teams that stayed up to be honest sunderland stoke I know who I would rather watch

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Erm didn't Liverpool want him?

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Liverpool interviewed him and went with someone else. So no Liverpool didn't want him. Meaning we get their reject. {Ed025's Note - he rejected them, because he wanted full control..

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He turned liverpool down due to not being given full control of the club

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Rubbish. This supposed offer was refuted by Liverpool and I would believe them over Dave Whelan who was the initial person who spoke of this control of club issue, Martinez went along with it when questioned afterwards.

There is no way in this world he would stay at Wigan over Liverpool and if he did then what ambition does that show.

No manager has full control of a club not even Moyes and every club has people that input over signings, that's why you have scouts, CEO's, Directors, Chairman.

It isn't Footy Manager where you get £50m and you hit the search button for a striker with 20 finishing and press the make bid button.

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04 Jun 2013 13:35:53
Too many conspiracy stories on here. My own personal view is kenwrights no1 was always Martinez. The only reason I think everton made there statement last night was because it was all over every news channel by 9 o'clock we had agreed a component fee with wigan. And Martinez had not signed yet because he is still under contract at wigan. So it seems straight forward to me. Now we have agreed the compo fee we will sign him today (hopefully). So can we all please get off bk back because he has listened, well to most of us. And he done his business the everton way. Whealn is the only one that provided us with a running comentry of what was happening

LIAM

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04 Jun 2013 14:30:24
Why isn't our PR department controlling the story? sorry but the buck stops with the board its one fiasco after another

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What are you on about? Would you prefer whelans gob or BKs cognitief way of condicting business.

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Seriously why do people think our board can tell dave wealan what to say and when to say it. Get a grip of yourself lad. Once this is over you will only find something else to moan about. LIAM

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Liam
You're correct in saying our board can't tell Dave Whelan what to say or do, but surely we can expect some professional courtesy from him, especially after the way BK has conducted himself throughout this process? Isn't too much to ask for really is it. One has the impression he doesn't want Martinez to go and is acting in an undignified manner to try to scupper any deal and deter any potential suitors.

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04 Jun 2013 13:25:20
Well it looks like Martinez has the job. I personally don't think he is right for the efc, I guess only time will tell.

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04 Jun 2013 13:23:54
Why do we always look at the negative side on everything, we moaned dm was to defensive now we are moaning martinez teams can't defend & attack to much I for one am looking forward to some attacking football at goodison at last. Blue billy

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Billy:

We all (at least we should do) love attacking football!

However the cold light of day finally dawned for WAFC.

Whoever manages a club like our beloved EFC will have a limited squad of players hopefully leading to a' not throwing caution to the wind' culture.

We just cannot afford to ship goals.

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04 Jun 2013 13:04:10
lets not forget wigan won a cup that we didnt, and that king moysey came from the championship to us from an avarage preston team

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OP:

This is not a debate about who is best between DM and RM.

The fact that a club the size of MUFC signed DM up as their new manager should tell you which is the better of the 2!

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In the same way Manchester United squad of players is much better than Everton's so maybe moyes won't be so negative and will play attacking football as they always have in the past even when they weren't that good

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04 Jun 2013 12:50:32
Looks uncertain that BK will employ Martinez now, Whelans arrogance might just have blown this deal.

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Let's hope so!

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04 Jun 2013 12:40:21
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Sorry folks there's been a hold up in Martinez signing his contract. He's actually failed his medical and Mir scan as shown up an old knee injury.

All is not lost BK is trying to renegotiate the release fee for Saturday matinee tickets for blood brothers.

Joking apart we have to support who ever is the everton manager. I am not a fan of BK this is his biggest deal ever. If it fails I believe his head is on the block.


Eric dysfunctional

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04 Jun 2013 12:34:11
a web site just saidit will be confirmed Martinez. Will be Everton manager in 2 hours time

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2 hours later and no deal. awkward

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04 Jun 2013 12:22:13
De-Ja-Vu? This was from the time of his Wigan appointment, I believe this is what is holding up the announcement at Everton aswell.

"The appointment had been delayed by talks with Martinez's former club Swansea over compensation for the 35-year-old and then his backroom staff.

But the two camps have now agreed a deal for assistant Graeme Jones and chief scout Kevin Reeves to move.

And Martinez is expected to be unveiled to the media on Tuesday after an attempt to do so last week was aborted.

He had been due to be presented as Wigan boss at a news conference last Thursday after the Premier League club agreed an estimated £2m compensation deal with Swansea.

But that payment did not include Martinez's managerial team who helped him to such success at Swansea in his two years in the Liberty Stadium hotseat.

So Wigan's live TV press conference ended in embarrassment as Latics chairman Dave Whelan could not publicly introduce the successor to Steve Bruce, who has taken over at Sunderland.

Championship club Swansea hoped for a fee of around £500,000 in compensation for their assistant manager Jones and talent-spotter Reeves but the final settlement is undisclosed. "

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04 Jun 2013 11:47:16
anyone else seen the 13/14 kit? Personally feel the badge does really ruin it.

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04 Jun 2013 12:49:19
do you have a link so we can all see it, or have you seen it in person? CraigHuytonBlue

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04 Jun 2013 11:44:07
To get champions league we need to keep Fellani and Baines. And sign mcmanaman. McCarthy. NEGRADO. Fer

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Get real we're not getting into the Champions league without a billionaire owner.

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04 Jun 2013 11:24:21
Why are people having a go at bk. he has done nothing wrong are these posters thick or red trolls. Wheelan should keep his gob shut thought he was a buisness man. Efc statement should put him back in his place

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You might defend bk but its his continuous bad business that's got us 50m in the red, he's had plenty of chances to hand the club to investors in which case we'd be in a far better position however he's hanging out for his payday, manager situation is least of our problems, kenwright out!

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04 Jun 2013 12:18:47
Yeh, because we are in such a bad way arn't we, yawning lots

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I know he is not perfect but he has handled the manager situation well

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And I suppose agent Johnson had no part in those debts then? So the club is in debt, take a look at Man Utd's debt and most other clubs in the league.

Get off the man's case. he is doing the best he can with the money available and ever think his "hanging out for his pay-day" could be more a case of keeping the best interests of the club at heart, in other words not selling to the first wannabe who pretends to have serious cash, like so many other clubs have?

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Correct me if i'm wrong but since kenwright saved us fron the red johnson he has brought stability to the club. we were in this much debt before he took over so to say we are 45 mill in debt because of him is wrong

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I notice that the person above who doesn't like BK hasn't put his name after the post. Saying that I don't think I would with a post like that. He clearly has no idea how to run a club or a business, if he thinks the best way is to sell to the first or highest bidder then he is sadly mistaken. BK has got it spot on so far, £50 million (in football terms) is not a lot of money and most clubs are in debt by larger amounts. BK is looking for the right person, or group, to take our beloved Everton over and when he finds that person, then he will argue over the price and the terms!

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I notice that the person above who doesn't like BK hasn't put his name after the post. Saying that I don't think I would with a post like that. He clearly has no idea how to run a club or a business, if he thinks the best way is to sell to the first or highest bidder then he is sadly mistaken. BK has got it spot on so far, £50 million (in football terms) is not a lot of money and most clubs are in debt by larger amounts. BK is looking for the right person, or group, to take our beloved Everton over and when he finds that person, then he will argue over the price and the terms!

Sorry wasn't signed in!

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04 Jun 2013 11:16:49
As � 16 year old I am disgusted By some of our fans w� are called supporters to support not slag off everything th� club do! Martinez is a good manager h� may become � great one, he ain't th� cheap option stubbs or weir would of been and other managers who w� wouldn't gav� to have paid compensation for. Some supporters if they aren't reds which I suspect they are they should be as all they do us moan without even giving someone a chance. If mushy supported like he moaned he really could be our number 1 fan, rant over good luck Roberto! The duck.

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Good post.

Way too many fans give BK so much unfair stick.

They give the impression BK doesn't have the best interests of the club at heart and didn't support DM's financially as much as he could, when the reality is that he's broken our transfer record several times, increased our overall wage budget significantly over his tenure, without putting the club in financial risk.

The only thing he's really guilty of is not being a billionaire with an endless supply of money to pump in to the club.

I've mixed views on Martinez but it was Kenwright who found Moyes and was brave enough to give him the job, which must have taken guts and turned out to be a great decision by Bill.

We should respect whoever he chooses, wether it's Martinez or someone else and get behind them.

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Best interest of the club he's the one who if he had his way we would be playing next season in kirkby he used his wife to say isn't goodison a magnificent place it is but it is tired and the sooner investment or a new owner comes along we will remain top 6-8 as for bk well if he could wait until more of the loan is paid off the bigger his slice of cake

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04 Jun 2013 10:51:31
I'm confused most reports this morning saying a deal been agreed last night they denied it

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04 Jun 2013 10:48:54
How has bk done this amazingly. If he listened to the fans then would appoint pereira. D'oh

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But you are assuming that all the fans agree with you which clearly isn't true, D'oh

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04 Jun 2013 13:16:48
whats to say vitor wasn't playing us for a better contract with porto and would never have signed a deal with us. It has to work both ways, if we want a manager the manager has got to want to come to us; I feel we have done well to capture Martinez if he is unvailed as manager and am optomistic to see what he can do with the group of players playing attractive football, this is the school of science afterall.
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04 Jun 2013 10:26:11
Is it just me, or do you think Robbie isn't going to be our manager, I think blue bill is playing a few mind games, trying to force other potential mangers hands by openly reporting that we have both agreed compensation as well as had several meetings with Robbie, personally I think Martinez is a potential target for several clubs, he wouldn't express his desire to leave if he only had Everton interested, personally I think our manager will be one of the other hot favourites, such as Vitor, Ralph or Ole - we are just trying to persuade them by offering them competition, my opinion only - ed? thoughts?

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04 Jun 2013 10:25:19
Heres my twopence worth.

Martinez wants to leave - that's a given. He's told Whelan. Kenright's enquired about the cost to get him from his contract and Whelan's told him £1m. All Kenright has done is weigh up his costs and what getting Martinez will incure. Whelan has jumped the gun added 2 and 2 and got 12. So more the fool him if Kenright decides on someone else. if I agree a fee on a car with someone it doesn't mean i'm buying it, it means I know what its going to set me back if I do.

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Good post that mate.

BitterBlue

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04 Jun 2013 09:56:47
Can we all please calm down.

Let me star by saying I have no preference as to who succeeds Moyes as they ALL have their positives and negatives.

If reports are correct and it is Martinez please remember that the man has kept Wigan playing decent football in the best League in the world on a transfer budget of minus 2 million pounds. He has done this while having to work with the tightest, most egotistical man united could ever meet.

As I live in Wigan I have heard stories about Dave Whelan for years most of which come from friends who have relatives who work in some capacity for him or his companies. Whelan treats people with no respect and he is obsessed with the sound of his own voice.

It was no surprise to me that Whelan made that statement last night, to Whelan HE is the news. I am so happy Everton put that message out last night as it put the disrespectful little man in his place.

I think Martinez did a half decent job at Wigan considering

Who he has to work with. His budget. Having to sell players to balance the books.

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Well said Popeye. It is not like this is the first time Whelan has made random remarks to the press to massage his own ego is it? It just shows the man's total lack of class, and a lack of respect towards BK and Everton. Something we have done in the way we approached Wigan, respected Whelan's wishes before we spoke to Martinez and handled the whole situation.

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04 Jun 2013 09:35:37
I an confirm Robero Martinez has a nice car. He's the man for us lads

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Where did this info come from what is your source ;)

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He's got a moped no reverse gear
but its an ok moped so my source tells me.

Jawannatoffee

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04 Jun 2013 09:12:28
right fans,
you seen how well are beloved team preformed against west ham, that was because we got behind are team! so come kick off first game of the season get behind are team and whatever/whoever the manager is let's get him 3 points!
COYB! NSNO!

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04 Jun 2013 09:07:24
Woke up this morning, the sun shining, birds singing and then reality hit.

Please tell me the last three weeks haven't happened.

Last nights fiasco shows us old uns how badly we are run. Like some comedy double act Bill gets ready to say his funny line only for the Pie Eater to run up behind and snatch his glory!
Hilarious. well it would be if I was a red.
Today you can expect a number of fairly hostile posts from those who believe, to be a blue you must remain silent whatever is served up. Last time I was so bloody depressed was on a similar morning to this when I stood aghast and heard the following:
"Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope. "
Perhaps all of us should take comfort in those words. because she was wearing blue!
Taxi for Kenwright.

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04 Jun 2013 10:03:01
Mushy it's getting boring now, post after post from you with the same moaning crap, you have written the club off before RM has even been given a chance, I'm betting you want us to fail so that you can say "I told you so", change the record for gods sake.

Mushy peas stop moaning

Also how many posts knocking BK and RM are anonymous, Ed every blue I talk to is looking forward to a new challenge, there is now way these are all Blues.

Degsy

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Stop posting s***e and get behind the team you are supposed to support and give martinez a chance will you.

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04 Jun 2013 10:29:55
What has got 'get behind the team' got to do with it?
Right so because Hitler youth decide that no one should raise any objection to present debacle of senior management at our club we all stay stum?
Today Martinez tomorrow the world?

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So who do you want as manager then, Mush?

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Everton never leaked out that RM may be our new manager. The blurt who broke his leg did and should know better. So stop blaming the club for doing nothing wrong in keeping quiet until something is confirmed.

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04 Jun 2013 10:29:55
What has got 'get behind the team' got to do with it?
'Mushy'


Its a bit early in the day, even for an ex teacher, to be drinking, don't you think Mush?

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04 Jun 2013 09:00:13
This makes the election of a new Pope look modern and sophisticated. Certainly the club's communication isn't quite as good as the Vatican's, at least you get the smoke that's more than we are getting.

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04 Jun 2013 09:42:15
If our shower ran the Vatican they'd have to send Sharon out for some matches.
Making us look a laughing stock!

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04 Jun 2013 08:56:04
Sorry everyone rm is the new manager 100 percent we will just av to get on with and back him. Till he takes us down that is

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04 Jun 2013 08:30:29
Late last night deal done get up todayeddeal not done. Has panto season arrived early. Surly its time to put there fans to right in all this.

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04 Jun 2013 08:30:09
A bit more fuel for the fire comes from a European site earlier today-translation below. The translation is an on-line automatic one so reads badly but I think the gist is clear enough.

"Yesterday afternoon, the leader of Wigan, Dave Whelan, has come to take for granted the way of Roberto Martinez to Everton, but the Toffees through the club's official website, issued a statement denying such news, and ensuring that the job coach, left open after the departure of David Moyes for Man United, are still open.

On the same day it became known that V�tor Pereira rejected the invitation to renew Pinto the Costa with FC Porto. Everton may have revived interest in the technician who was crowned Portuguese champions. "

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04 Jun 2013 08:22:38
Well what can I say I will always get behind everton but to lose a manager that has had us floating around 6 th spot year after year and has left us with a team which I feel is one or two players short of a top team, I really thought everton would push the boat out and replace DM with someone special instead of a manager that has repeatedly year after year struggled in relegation I feel this is a massive back step, I hope Martinez proves us wrong but it's a to bigger gamble to take. I sometimes hate being an Everton fan

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04 Jun 2013 09:37:37
Bang on lad, Can't blame RM though not his fault.

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04 Jun 2013 08:20:19
I bet you the people saying Martinez is crap is also the same people who were saying get rid of Coleman because he is crap, look how he has turned out! You don't know what's going to happen so don't be saying, Martinez is going to be crap because you don't know! Get behind him and make him prove you wrong!

TC

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04 Jun 2013 08:18:40
I know there's lots of negativity about martinez bacause he obviously just got relegated his team would concede 3 to a Sunday league side but when at everton he will have probably one of the best back fours in the league, they will more or less look after themselves if he does bring some attacking football and we do keep possession more and create more chances then he could well be the manager who will take us to the next level not one that's going to take us down. Just a different spin on things.

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04 Jun 2013 08:18:05
Lets just get one thing straight. yes martinez got Wigan relegated but on the plus side he good attacking manager. and we have far Better defenders than Wigan, so let's gets behind him and support him. Ryanfromleic.

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04 Jun 2013 10:03:44
I don't think many managers could have done better with Wigan without Pulis, Allardyce tactics. Even the likes of Murinho and Ferguson would have struggled to keep Wigan up.

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04 Jun 2013 08:11:30
All the negative posts are just childish and there is no need for them he hasn't even started yet and your slating him? You are not everton fans you are david moyes fans go and follow him to Manchester United got no patience with people constantly having a go at everton and don't even give things a chance

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Because you don't agree with them they're negative and childish? No they're opinions and people have them whether you like it or not. Take a couple of valium and chill, because you're very aggressive

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04 Jun 2013 07:44:22
18 years since you last won a pot and I reckon another 18 with Martinez as manager. us kopites love it ha ha

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What a sad, pathetic person you are. Just in case you didn't know, Roberto Martinez turned you lot down :)

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04 Jun 2013 07:40:49
dont know why people here are so negative, no matter who we get in charge let's get behind them, are we EVERTON, or are we that sh*te over the road who moan about everything, we still have very good players in our squad that any manager can work with, baines, jags, coleman, felli, mirrallas, gibson, piennar ect. coyb

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04 Jun 2013 05:36:01
OK. 5 days ago, I did tell everyone that the compensation was to be paid out of RM's deal, now that has been given as 1.5 million, and the deal is done.

A VERY SAD DAY FOR MY BELOVED CLUB. NO AMBITION, JUST THE CHEAPEST DEAL ON THE TABLE.

Bill K, has no thought for Everton Fans as per the Badge scenario, the guy is wafer thin with his I promise you this and that.

We have employed the most overrated manager in football, a manager apart from 1 cup run and victory, has always struggled with a team, squad numbers and budget,, EFC is a ready made replacement, however he don't have half the guile of DM.
BK is in heaven with this appointment, he will be a puppet for the board.

1. Accept we will lose our big players replaced by sub standard, giving the board more bonus money.
2. We will have no more than 24 points at xmas.
3. This Relegated manager has more hard luck stories than a punter at Aintree.
4. We will be looking for a new manager next year, It may though be too late.

Just about the DARKEST DAY I can remember in my 44 years supporting this great club.

NOTHING BUT THE BEST,, no wonder the shambles of a chairman wanted to get rid of it. SAD VERY SAD, Everton Supporter.

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Get over yourselfe the club is the most important thing. not whingeing supporters. we have to support there choice of manager and give him a chance. this club needs fresh ideas.

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Off you pop biffy, no place for supporters like you and your negativity!!

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Bye bye, if I didn't know better i'd think you where a crying koppite, now either get behind OUR club through thick and thin or don't bother at all

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How is it the cheapest deal on the table? Loads of out of contract managers this summer.

TC

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04 Jun 2013 08:15:04
Biffy your name speaks volumes about your atitude, BIFF, you actually said that RM has to pay the compo out of his wages, you speak for a very very small minority and a lot of Koppites

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Won promotion at Swansea who are now in premier playing football implemented by Martinez. changed Wigan into a side who play football the right way. they got relegated ya, but will always be a club in That position. oh ya won fa cup playin everton and city off the field. give Martinez a better squad ov players and let's c what happens. i'm happy with roberto get behind him there's negatives in every appointment.

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04 Jun 2013 09:26:06
No don't pop off Billy, well said sir. You have every right to have your say, don't be put off by some of these clowns who state to know their history, they don't and simply resort to insults because they cannot answer the argument!
Mushy

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'' In response to regrettable and somewhat premature reports earlier this evening, Everton Football Club are continuing discussions with regards to the vacant managerial position.

Whilst positive moves are being made, the Club will officially announce details as and only when they are agreed and completed. ''


Flippin eck Biffy!

Take a chill pill or something

DM's now part of our history and when he actually first came here there was a lot of raised eye brows, Remember?

Whether it's RM or whoever,

We owe it to ourselves to give him a sporting chance!

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04 Jun 2013 03:53:49
Right, let's get it all straight! We all know nothing! Stop with all the stupid rumours about who you thinks gunna be the new man! Past few days I've seen "ole gunnar" "roberto martinez" "the red bull dude" as soon as the red bull dude was announced BOOM the there was rumours of a take over? Must be a kopite posting. BK will go for the cheap option, its obvious! Who ever gets the job WILL need support from us fans, like the west ham game the crowd was bouncing! Get abit more of that going and we'll play even better! BK STAY! Great man, not his fault he ain't the richest! I respect what he's done with us so far, COYB!

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04 Jun 2013 03:24:23
Martinez has spent four years in the top flight with Wigan, finishing 16th, 16th, 15th and finally 18th last season. He has won 38 of 152 games in the top flight, a win ratio of 25 per cent.

if that is good enough for you then your very easly pleased. be afraid!

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That was with wigan, we are everton with a bigger and better squad.

what about when moyes took over, a similar age and had done nothing with preston, get behind the team

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Look at his team, championship player, he's done very well keeping them up this long! I'm sure when Klopp, Wenger and Benitez fans of their clubs would of been moaning, but look how well they have done! don't make premature assumptions to how well the manager is going to do, do you have a time machine? No, so you don't know what's going to happen like everyone else, give him a chance and get behind him, do you think a new manager will do well with fans on his back. Don't think so!

TC

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04 Jun 2013 01:43:49
This is to all the bk haters and rm haters!

Bill kenwright does his best to keep this club going at a sustainable rate, keeping the debt at a minimum, yes he has his faults but doesn't everyone? Its not his fault the other major shareholders aren't putting they're hands in they're pocket is it? He has mortgaged his house and done everything possible to give everton money, at the end of the day football is a business and he wants to make a profit on everton fair enough, or maybe its the other shareholders forcing this hand and bill kenwright is the only one with enough dignity to take the stick by putting himself in the public eye.

Now over to martinez, people saying we should get a better manager someone with great european experience those sort of managers don't go to clubs with a low budget and no european footy, also a small aging squad. But martinez will become better as he goes on, people mentioning the relegation, well let me tell you wenger got relegated? Klopp got relegated? Rafa benitez got relegated? And they're all top class managers! Which martinez could turn out to be or he could be awful and will finish a lowest of 10th imo could be worse we could of got mark hughes or someone like that.

Now onto you fans the fans that are always negative you make this club lose its dignity!pride! And respect! By having a bad say about everything the club does and won't be happy until were winning treble season after season and buyying messi, reality check that won't happen for many years so get behind the team and stop getting on bk's back and support the club! And whoever the new manager is and new signings we won't get any better by knocking the players/manager so be positive and we might just have a gem in the new manager!

P. s sorry about the long post eds

Ryan {Ed025's Note - really good post that ryan mate..

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Its an easy scenario for me I will support the club no matter who manages it. I supported it through Mike Walker, I supported it through Moyes and I will keep supporting the club until I can no longer function. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but we all should get behind the club and stay behind the club no matter what.

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Well said Ryan great post 100% agree with you. And 2nd poster, well said too. For my part I spent my teens watching Gordon Lee's side "pass the ball back" week in week out at a very empty Goodison, have your opinions sure, but once whoever is announced get behind him and the team.

If it is Roberto Martinez so be it, not my first choice BUT far from being the worst we could do, that is why other teams have been interested in employing him in the past, teams remember he has turned down (With the possible exception of the dark side if we believe the hype) Obviously the man wants the right opportunity and it would seem in his mind Everton is it. Give the man a chance!

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04 Jun 2013 01:39:15
It is very hard to dislike the man personally, but please bill, if you have yet to sign the contract, have a second night to sleep on it. Wigan have not spent 4 years fighting off relegation for no reason, and that reason is Martinez.

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04 Jun 2013 01:35:25
Annoys me that the top story on tv is Mourinho back @ the Bridge! Only little bits on the Everton front

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04 Jun 2013 00:54:47
Everton only saying no deal done because they are annoyed that Whelan spouted, amd want to announce it on their own terms, but the deal is done and we support the new mananger, who should be give every chance to show he can move us on to the next level.

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04 Jun 2013 00:48:40
Do you get the impression that the Board and the PR department aren't communicating with one another let alone the supporters?
Some blame for DW's comments must rest with the clubs lawyers for not covering all the bases.
If I was a shareholder I would be demanding answers!

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04 Jun 2013 00:26:14
How is it Kenwrights fault if the massive knob that is Dave Whelan spouts his mouth off during ongoing negotiations! Kenwright and the club have had there faults in the past but in this instance it seems to me that they are both at least trying to be professional regarding the appointment of our next manager.

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03 Jun 2013 23:48:20
Ed has Dave Whelan lost the plot all together please can you shed some light is Martinez the new gaffer cause i'm confused now. reason I ask is cause you get info from within from time to time. and now tv are saying were still in talks. but with who? {Ed025's Note - roberto is first choice stef, DW was trying to spoil the party, by being the one to announce it. we as a club were trying to do things properly, but whelan just cant help himself mate...expect it to be confirmed today..

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04 Jun 2013 00:03:44
I heard a bit of a talk about Moyes recommending Dougie Freedman from Bolton Wanderers.

He is not on the rader, Scottish, Rangers Fan?.

Bootleblue

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03 Jun 2013 23:47:31
We will get behind Bobby, but 28% win ratio as wigan manager is a huge worry. Coyb

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I don't know if you have noticed but we're not Wigan.

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Underwhelming appointment if it happens.

28% win rate, relegation, a cup win.

Poor PL record, and all this with 'beautiful attacking football'.

We need a manager who can take us to the next level upwards, not downwards.

We are the sixth best team in the country, the league table doesn't lie, we should be appointung a manager who knows how to improve a side, not one who fights relegation.

But hey, relegated playing beautiful football, is that irony!

WHATS OUR NAME!!

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Knowing how crap wigan are that's a good ratio

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03 Jun 2013 23:35:56
Two club statements in two weeks, yes it is 'regrettable' and any supporter with any knowledge of our great club find this bungling to be unacceptable. are you actually running this club Kenwright or making it up as you go along/

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It's not really Kenwrights fault that The massive knob that is Dave Whelan has spouted off during ongoing negotiations is it? Get off Kenwrights back. He's not perfect but in this instance its not his fault.

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03 Jun 2013 23:29:41
Pleased to see the impending arrival of Martinez has been met with the usually negativity and whinging! Reading some of the posts saying he will get us relegated, our squad hasn't changed into relegation material since the end of the season. Someone saying that we won't break into the top 4 with Martinez in charge! Correct we probably won't but based on the wealth of the other teams around it isn't really much of a shock. Give the bloke a break and give him a chance, you never know he might surprise you.

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03 Jun 2013 23:27:15
It's so frustrating - whatever might really be going on at our club behind the scenes, to the outside world it looks like one shambolic b***s-up after another.
TheGhostOfTrophiesPast

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Fact kenwright is honest he said he will look and it won't be rushed and that whe we have appointed someone we will tell the public so what has he done wrong its not for whelan to say weather a deal is done when quite clearly it is not a done deal that's not to say its not going to be Martinez only when he signs contract kenright has doing process in a professional manner yes I wish we would know but one things for sure we will have a new manager when kenright says so

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03 Jun 2013 23:22:25
Maybe we should just hand over the running of the club to our sponsors Chang - at least they should be able to organise a p**s-up in a brewery.
TheSpiritOf85

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03 Jun 2013 23:21:39
what is the matter with some of these so called evertonians that's all they do is critise wot bk does and slag off martinez. We should be getting behind bk hoping he makes the rite choice bringing martinez to our club and let us move to the next level wot you rekon ed

dave

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03 Jun 2013 23:21:16
Jesus ed I come on this site. I read and I comment. by the time I finished posting. all change!
How bad is this, sorry but we are an embarrassment tonight.
Just posted about the Thatcher Lover but what professional organisation handles deals like this. we do, a shambles but nothing surprises me with Ken and Co.
And don't blame bloody Wigan a two bit lawyer agrees sale on conditions. UNBELIEVABLY BAD!

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The only embarrassment around here is you with your constant whinging all the time.

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03 Jun 2013 23:10:25
whelan done this last year with Liverpool and now he's doing it with everton, anyone else and it would be proper frowned upon, but ahh its dave whelan you know that cuddly old man who broke his leg in the cup final and charged us too much for an ellesse top, seriously though this guy should be fined

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03 Jun 2013 23:09:31
Was a teacher for 35 years and just knew trouble in playground would kick off tonight!
Can I just post though how badly our cub is run-who announces Martinez appointment?
THATCHER LOVER! God how much are we paying for media consultants etc? Come on guys whoever you wanted, HOW BAD IS THAT?
God if I had a cat I would ki. no no (NSPCA) I love little kittens and just because my beloved club have once again blown it I would never harm a little pussy (no I meant) animal.
Oh bum I wanted VP so much.

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And now we know the reason for the poor standards in education.

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04 Jun 2013 08:30:38
Now do't get nasty. I actually got graded 'good' by Ofsted in January 2012!

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03 Jun 2013 23:08:27
Seriously I think pereira will be the new Everton manager inte next 2 days

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