Everton Banter Archive January 05 2020

 

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05 Jan 2020 22:35:37
I would like to ask the question. Are their any Under 23 midfielders at the club, that haven't been given a chance to show what they have. Because our Midfield is rubbish. Delph Davies Sigs and Sneiderlan are really not up to it. Or maybe promoting a centre back and Mason Holgate in Midfield.

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06 Jan 2020 08:28:51
We have some really good talent in our youth systems below the first team but never get the given the opportunity to show their worth, Shame.

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06 Jan 2020 09:49:24
What does it matter if we do?
For some reason Schneiderlin and Sigurdson still get picked - we could have the next Messi, ronaldo or iniesta in the under 23s but they won’t get a chance.
Not sure how Sigurdson and Schneiderlin do it but to get 4 managers to pick them is baffling.
I’m hoping Ancellotti will break this cycle and will realise how bad they are and stop picking them.

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06 Jan 2020 12:10:28
adeniran beni been training with the first for aslong as i can remember now, same with gibson and feeney at cb when will we see any of them? if we havnt seen any of them already when we're on the bones of our bottoms are they good enough anyway?

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06 Jan 2020 13:14:14
That's the age old argument, wblue, if they have been exposed to first team training but not getting any time on the pitch then are they ready? Reserve team football has changed so much in the premier league era, from what I've seen it is nowhere near the standard it used to be. It certainly doesn't give us an idea of if a player will be able to step up to the first team. I want to see some of them make the first team squad but only if the management believe that they will cope in that environment, no point bringing players from the developement squad if they can't hold their own, it will only stifle their progress in the long run.

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06 Jan 2020 13:27:31
As if the last 3 managers haven't spelt this out for us yet. luckily fans don't pick the 1st 11.

I think it's safe to assume that we don't have a mini Messi or Ronaldo sat in our youth ranks. We have a brilliant u23s setup, one to be proud of.
The way to play the kids like has been demanded above is to be winning. Most of the time, so that we can introduce kids into a winning team. Into a team that is fighting in all comps and due to congestion (direct result of success) needs must at times.

Not looking at the European and World champions wondering why our club isn't healthy enough to play the kids. Madness.

The best news from last night was that. CARLO stated he hadn't been on the training pitches yet. Think this week will be good for that. Still some players can turn this around.
But like it or not, we must spend and bigger than ever this summer. Or we will never make a dent on the top 6.

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06 Jan 2020 14:42:26
The problem at the training ground must be deep routed. If we can’t produce youngsters better than the lot that played against Liverpool’s youth team on Sunday Then it’s not worth having a youth system at Everton.

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{Ed025's Note - your right uran mate..

06 Jan 2020 15:21:59
Antony Evans, gets on the bench now and again. Never gets a game.

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06 Jan 2020 15:33:20
where has carlo stated this? considering everton plaster images of him on the training field barking instructions i feel its highly unlikely.

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06 Jan 2020 18:21:29
Now CA will be able to see all players in training rather than rely on others opinions we might see some of u23s promoted CB, CM, and RM.

Possibly play Delph/ Baines LB and Digne LW like Coleman and Sidibe.

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06 Jan 2020 20:52:57
I thought Beni looked good when I have seen him. Surely he is worth a pop. Probably better playing with 9 men than having Sigurdson and Sneiderlin.

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{Ed025's Note - last i heard he was injured BT, but i have not heard an update..

07 Jan 2020 11:57:57
beni is injured yes, a shout for it could have been markelo who is regarded highly at the club, however never gets a look in and didn't even get minutes out in tanzania for the friendlies in summer.

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05 Jan 2020 22:11:38
We have so many players that aren't confident with the ball at their feet I've never seen so many panic when they recieved it our passing was atrocious also.

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05 Jan 2020 23:07:29
Was the same against City. Couldn’t string two passes together.

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06 Jan 2020 01:26:02
The problem is midfield. Keeper plays it to centre backs, they pass it across the back line because not 1 midfielder will come for the ball and try and stamp some authority on the game. So centre backs pass it to each other til opponents close them down., and hey presto, we get caught in possession or hit a poor pass to a team mate.

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05 Jan 2020 21:57:33
CA mentioned one one of his press conferences about getting to know players characters and knowing how players are technically but more importantly the characters. Well he has learned a lot today after that performance that a lot of players haven’t got what it takes.
We have played Leicester recently and I mentioned then they played with an understanding of where each player is on the pitch without looking and Liverpool are the same they play a system obviously through the age groups and the players know it and play as a team. We didn’t have a clue and the passing was shocking and uncertainty and no confidence whatsoever.
It will be good that CA will have time to work with the squad to implement his ideas and get the players to have this understanding. Definitely need new blood in to give us a lift.

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05 Jan 2020 22:30:55
Good post think we will have to accept this type of display till next season, and look forward to a brighter future once a few players arrive and settle in.

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06 Jan 2020 08:27:34
I think Carlo's honeymoon period is over.

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05 Jan 2020 21:49:59
Marcel Brands needs to go. Ancelotti has probably got more contacts in the game than he has and would attract players he has managed before without Brands sticking his oar in. Plus his track record since he got here is hardly impressive.

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05 Jan 2020 22:14:05
Yes we need to stop buying players from top 6 clubs that are there rejects sigs, shnids, Walcott, ect, ect ect, and buy some young blood or bring it through . brands has a lot to answer for terrible signings.

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05 Jan 2020 23:00:41
While throwing the blame out do get some of the facts correct as I didn’t think Schneiderlin Sigurdson Walcott or Keane to add another we’re bought by Brands?
He has brought us Gomes Mina Richarlison Bernard Sidibe Digne as the bulk of his signings which personally I think aren’t bad and with Ancellotti as Manager will probably be able to persuade better to join
Yes question marks over Iwobi and I don’t think we’ve seen a proper Moise Kean yet.

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05 Jan 2020 23:03:16
Brands is not the problem its year after year of buying players on high wages and long contracts, his past c he built clubs from ground up buying young players and selling on when needed to make money, now we don't have to sell to make money but need to sell to make a team need to give him time to get rid of players not wanted by manager at this time (new manager new players wanted) , we need time and proper direction to build our team not scatter gun transfer policy of last regimes.

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05 Jan 2020 23:03:48
I think that’s harsh on Brands, none of those players were his acquisitions. It’s a mixed bag but Digne has been brilliant, Richarlison, Bernard and Gomes to a certain extent. Still question marks about Kean, Mina, Sidibé, Delph (but he’s hardly had time to settle with injury’s) . Gbamin is an unknown until he gets back from injury.

Walcott, Schneids, Sigurdsson, Tosun, Keane were all before his time. He’s trying to sort out a few years of poor recruitment, can you name a player post moshiri pre brands who’s done well? . Pickford (. ish) , after that I can’t.

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06 Jan 2020 06:52:05
I said it months ago, we will never be able to compete as long as our spine consists of the Walsh signings.
Schneids, Keane, Pickford and Siggy have no mental strength.
And as Southern Toffee says Brands signings have been better but due to injuries we are relying on the old guard.

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06 Jan 2020 12:48:43
I think DCL was bought in that time period gibbo but that’s the only one I can think of and he was bought as a development prospect.

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06 Jan 2020 17:33:45
DCL Holgate Pickford Colman Davies and possibly Baines are the only pre-Brands players I'd keep from the entire squad.

The rest where all non-existant yesterday could see huge gap left in midfield where none closed down their players and left them time to play whatever ball they wanted to, I would of looked like a world beater against our midfield, would of been better to put Davies rather than Delph more mobile and more positive going forward.

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{Ed025's Note - i would have played davies as well BB..

06 Jan 2020 22:33:05
Gana. he fits the criteria. - oh yes he’s moved on to bigger and better things. Let’s give Walsh some credit.
30mil for Iwobi and trying to buy Rojo are the x2 black marks on Brands book for me along with (if true) his perseverance with Silva.
We need to remember that Brands have never kicked a ball in the Premier league and in footballing terms is ‘inexperienced’ in this league to say the least.

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06 Jan 2020 22:41:59
Blue boy / Ed. - I wonder why CA with his knowledge, judgement, experience and his no doubt top draw footballing and management knowledge chose to leave Davies out completely.
I am going to throw this out there. but maybe, just maybe he didn’t feel he was the answer. (Because he ain’t a box to box midfielder, isn’t a holding midfielder, doesn’t have pace, isn’t a shooting threat from outside the box, in fact I don’t know what he is other than England’s u23 captain and an Evertonian 🤷🏼‍♂️.

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{Ed025's Note - because he has one thing the others dont have blu...passion and a respect for the club mate, you may not rate him and yes he can be frustrating at times but he knows what a derby means to the fans unlike most of the others..

05 Jan 2020 21:45:04
John Ebbrell, Francis Jeffers and Alan Kelly are these still on our coaching staff dose anyone know.

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06 Jan 2020 08:50:55
Saw Alan Kelly on the bench last night.

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06 Jan 2020 11:35:16
Frannys still there mate I bumped into him at grab a granny.

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05 Jan 2020 21:05:41
Red coming in peace.
Really thought you were going to teach our youngsters a lesson today. I knew our boys would be up for a fight but I can’t believe how mature they were considering the circumstances.

I said to a friend that Jones would get a red before it started but I think they all showed a maturity beyond what was expected.

Anyway, my point is please have faith as I think CA will re-install your pride given time. You have a world class manager that played us at the wrong time.
Have faith boys.

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05 Jan 2020 21:00:25
One thing is for sure we can't play out from the back do we have any player in defence or midfield that is comfortable on the ball as soon as we get it there is a panic which ends up giving ball away.
Lots of players need moving on and quality need coming in, it's a good job we have CA as he will be the only reason players will want to come here.

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05 Jan 2020 21:08:16
I agree with you Trueblue.

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05 Jan 2020 22:27:01
The players we have are not good enough to play from the back. The passing is too slow as well as being atrocious. Midfield was awful today. In fact they were all awful. Above all, we need a leader on the pitch. Coleman for me is not the answer. CA has a huge job on his hands. He has been very lucky at his previous clubs and had world class players at his disposal. At Everton he has some good players but the vast majority are mediocre. Going to be interesting to see who he brings in!
Pretty sure he will get it right but it will take a long time and a lot of patience.

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06 Jan 2020 09:20:07
Players we have aren't good enough full stop.

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05 Jan 2020 20:22:22
Rumours Ancelotti giving serious thought to what he's got himself in to and looking at whether his contract has the same 14 day cooling off period most other contracts of service have, he's waiting for the citizens advice bureau to open first thing in the morning 😂.

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{Ed047's Note - 🤣🤣

05 Jan 2020 20:50:59
Can someone steal Ancelotti's passport please.
If I was him and watched that team of "men" who cannot pass or keep the ball, I'd be on the first plane back to Italy.
Some of the football they played was amateurish. I've seen better on a Sunday morning in the park.

Klopp gave us a big chance to beat them and they just handed back.

At least he got to see who is not worth keeping. But on that showing most the team could come into that category.

Sorry that's the most positive I can be after that.

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05 Jan 2020 20:17:25
Yeah it was ultra depressing to watch the second half. the young reds so much more nimble and technically gifted. so many of our players so one footed their options to pass are severely limited. and Gylfi and Schneids should have gone long ago. neither were ever good enough for a team that can grow into something to be proud of. Our midfield is short of nearly everything you need to compete creatively. Even allowing for the amount of games that have been played. what was on offer today was unacceptable. We simply need to spend our money more intelligently. or find academy players who are ready like some of those reds to step up. Ancelotti has seen our spirit in a couple of games but now our woeful inadequacy in this one. Time not to panic but to plan carefully and very wisely for the future. No more duds on the payroll!

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05 Jan 2020 20:24:38
Problem is - how do you get them off the payroll? No sane team would be willing to offer the players the same wages we have even if they get them on a free transfer! The players we all feel need to be moved on probably have no re-sale value. Looks like we’re in negative equity!

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05 Jan 2020 20:51:25
We should've played some of our under 23 team, couldn't Donny worse than this lot. At least Ancelotti now knows the extent our problems.

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05 Jan 2020 20:55:24
There was one thing that separated these 2 teams today and that was hunger Liverpool closing down was awesome and if we had that today we would of won.

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05 Jan 2020 21:19:21
Think Carlo now knows were we need to strengthen and who we need rid of this may not be very popular but my opinion is a world class keeper is priority along with a centre back.

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05 Jan 2020 19:58:28
Our players are obviously on a bigger lose bonus than a win. Because they are very good at putting no effort into what they do.
Today was a lower point than the Derby game. Aston Villa put five past that lot just recently, and we couldn't muster a single shot in the second half.
Yes we need new players, but we need to get rid of a good few. Their is a sickness in this club, and it spreads to any new players who come in. It's time to cut this sickness out, and hopefully Dr Ancellotti is the man to do it.

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05 Jan 2020 19:43:18
I know everyone is gutted with the result but we have to give Ancellotti the chance to implement his plans. Also this was the fourth game in 10 days for a lot of our players as our squad is threadbare due to injuries, especially midfield, we will come again. Keep the faith.

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05 Jan 2020 19:58:08
Is that why your called Dunc the drunk 😀.

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05 Jan 2020 20:29:09
Dunc - Liverpool have had far more games than us over the festive period yet they still managed to put out a team full of hunger and desire and wanting to win the match.

Ancelotti will get time as he’s not created the mess it’s just a shame it’ll probably take longer than we all anticipated rectifying the situation as a club we find ourselves in.

I reckon Everton should get Ed002 onboard as he always speaks sense and has highlighted on numerous occasions issues with our recruitment, I know he says he’s a rodeo clown but can’t imagine it’d be any worse than some of the clowns we’ve had in previous years.

Fingers crossed, Moshiri, brands and Ancelotti can sort it out.

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05 Jan 2020 21:39:15
Yes but these Liverpool players didn't and were fresh. Don't get me wrong not trying to defend today's performance it was pathetic and maybe we should have played some younger players but we couldn't afford to gamble and lose.
Just saying if we got some players back and a couple of signings we would be a lot more competitive, it's a work in progress and will take time.

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05 Jan 2020 19:42:25
I think it’s a bit harsh on Pickford the criticism today. He’s been to blame on the past but not today. Coleman’s legs have gone, Sidibe not good enough defensively. Mina and Holgate shouldn’t be exposed and feel sorry for them both with gaps left by Sidibe and Digne. And two clowns in front of them in midfield. Gylfi and Schneiderlin both need to go. Walcott has no brain to go with his pace and not good enough for us.
Bring back Kenny and what has happened to Banigime? Come on Carlo get some quality in please.

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05 Jan 2020 19:21:55
They don't even want to be in the FA Cup yet our spineless bunch can't even dominate a game against a youth team! I hope Carlo is in there now telling a few of them that they've played their last game for our club.

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05 Jan 2020 19:33:13
We have missed gana gueye more than I thought. No midfielder biting the ankles of the opposition. Defiantly need a lobotka, seri, soumare or a dacoure type there in midfield. Can't wait for gbamin to be fit. We must have better in U23 than what I've witnessed today. Adenrian or Markelo, who are highly thought of, deserve a crack. Schnids, Siggy offer nothing, Delph, to unfit and not good enough for 1st team. I wasn't thrilled we got him when there is bt far better players out there. A new right winger with pace and flair is a must, and get a new right back and centre half too. I'd even put Lewis Gibson in if it's a back 3. Maybe Kenny as our RB next season. Dumbfounded by tonight's result but they wanted it more, look to have bright futures and in the end scored a cracking goal. But it's all our undoing that we lost.

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05 Jan 2020 19:55:18
Yeh they did want it more, we need a Captain on that pitch who won't tolerate performances like today - agree I'd also give youth a chance I'm sure we'll have a midfielder in the Under 9's that offers more than Gylfi.

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05 Jan 2020 19:15:34
Well I wonder what grumpy toffee would have made of that? Because I tell you what I'm 55 years young now and I know we only let one goal in but that was the most embarrassing performance I've ever seen in my life . there is not one player that started that game that I would like to see stay at the club CA has got his work cut out that's for sure how them so called experienced players where outplayed by some teenagers I will never know we was second best in every department . skill, composure, will to win, footballing brains . You name it we lost it . I still think we will end up in a relegation battle and I know we have CA on board but the backroom coaching staff have to go NOW.

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05 Jan 2020 19:25:28
Ca has bought his own backroom team in, do you want them gone?
We had the chance to win it but composure cost us. Don't be too quick to throw the baby out with the bath water.
This is a project in its 3rd week not one in its 3rd season.

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05 Jan 2020 19:46:48
Well said smitt.
It is a project and it’ll take time.

It’s just really frustrating that that was probably our best chance to win at Anfield in a long time, we were awful and think you’ve got the nail in the head regarding composure - we never settled and rushed everything, put ourselves under pressure trying to play out from the back, didn’t take any time in midfield when we had the ball, needlessly booted long balls up the field to no one, school boy stuff.

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05 Jan 2020 19:50:41
Ancelotti is the only true quality we have at Everton, he can’t publicly say what he thinks as he is too professional for that, they are also valuable assets to the club, he knows what he got, this result doesn’t surprise me just angers me, full clear out in the summer, we are now in safe hands with Ancelotti, maybe 3 or 4 signings in this window to keep us safe, then roll on next season.

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05 Jan 2020 20:03:48
John Ebbrell, Francis Jeffers and Alan Kelly are all on the coaching staff I believe smit are they good enough.

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05 Jan 2020 20:04:08
As embarrassing as today was I think we have just witnessed the end of a few Everton careers, sure the fallout will be immense and the stick that will go with it too, I just hope this gives them the kick up the backside they need, there not good enough and the embarrassment of being beaten by kids, well all the blame needs directing at the starting 11.

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05 Jan 2020 20:09:38
Obviously Smit I didn't mean the new coaching staff 😀.

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06 Jan 2020 07:01:42
I'm. not sure who's left from the old coaching staff but we have to believe CA will get rid of anyone who isn't up to the job.

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05 Jan 2020 19:14:46
Let's be honest. 2nd half was dire, clueless. But reading on here that the whole squad needs replacing. Come on. First half could've been 4 up if not for Adrian making some good saves. Our midfield, which is full of injuries, is our downfall at the moment. But if reports are true, Rabiot and James Rodriguez could make a huge difference. Don't know why some people support us, the amount of negativity on here. Almost as annoying at some performances.

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05 Jan 2020 19:26:40
Kingo we had 3-4 good chances in 1st that we wasted by hitting them straight at Adrian. That’s not luck or great saves, that’s poor finishing. There is nothing positive to take from today’s performance and result. That was Liverpools u-18 team, Villa are struggling at the minute but still put 4-5 past them 2 weeks ago. This is the most embarrassing result I can remember and I have been a blue for 35+ years.

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05 Jan 2020 20:18:01
I think we all agree with you Joe.

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05 Jan 2020 20:52:10
I keep seeing people use the Villa result as some kind of comparison but Klopp wasn't in charge for that game was he? He gave them that belief at half time to go out and play whereas we took the foot off the gas and let them keep the ball.

If we had converted one of the many decent chances we had in the first half hour then who knows how the game would have turned out. We are still in the same position as we've been in all season, we really need a striker who is proflific and will take his chances. At least the window is now open, hopefully they will sort one out.

Second half was abysmal but this team is going to change quite a bit over the next few windows and CA can put his stamp on things. Horrible way to lose, great finish by their lad.

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05 Jan 2020 18:49:06
I don't think i can remember a performance this bad. they were kids! . more heart and desire, not to mention belief, than our millionaire, premiership, players.
I hope CA has seen enough to ask moshiri for the money to buy a whole new squad.

why hasn't pickford learned to stay on his line? If he had any type of football brain he would've been stood on his line and tipped that over. THEY RESTED THEIR ENTIRE FIRST TEAM!
This is the most embarrassing i've seen and also THE LOWEST POINT.

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05 Jan 2020 19:20:44
I agree
Pickford - ok but better around
Coleman - seen better days
Mina - see Pickford
Holgate - worth sticking with
Digne - not a great defender
Walcott - same as 12 years ago
Sigurdson - lost his way
Schneiderlin - one dimensional
Sidibe - see Digne
Richarlason - not as good as thinks
Dcl - work in progress

Clearly Carlo has a lot of work to do.

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05 Jan 2020 19:27:15
No keeper in the world is saving that mate. It's a worldy that is saved 1 in a 100.

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05 Jan 2020 19:37:09
Thought Pickford did ok today, the rest started ok and deteriorates into a shambles. Defenders get it and no one in midfield offering so Holgate to Mina, back to pickford, then to holgate then to coleman then Mina then we get squeezed and lose ball. City did same not learning. Not blaming defenders cause there is no midfield.

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05 Jan 2020 19:52:57
I think when you have Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin as your midfield pair you’re doomed.

Sigurdsson - was world class maybe 3 seasons ago, as many have said he’s now a luxury player that offers very little - maybe 1 good game in 4, needs to be moved on.

Schneiderlin - an enigma, was outstanding for Southampton years ago then transferred up the league and form gone downhill, absolutely no idea what he offers the team or why he still gets picked. Another who needs to go.

Neither player should start again but I’m sure they will.

Can’t see any team offering to take them off our hands either so unfortunately stuck with them.

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05 Jan 2020 18:51:23
I have said we are masters of finding amazing ways to disappoint. I thought I had seen them all when Pickford dropped it in last year. Then I thought same when we were hammered by the reserves but no there was another way! Thank you Everton for ruining my Sunday and really looking forward to work tomorrow!

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05 Jan 2020 18:49:49
I thought you boys actually did ok first half and should of scored at least one. You just weren’t clinical enough. But I don’t know what Carlo said at half time as you went backwards, passes astray, players being rushed. I think you need to allow big Dunc some freedom during games to berate the players as he wouldn’t allow that performance.
Very little for you to take from that but Carlo will work it out for you eventually.

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05 Jan 2020 18:37:31
Well embarrassing again. We are now the 4th best team in Liverpool after Liverpool, their reserves and their u18's that villa destroyed. Surely our whole scouting network and brands need to be let go now. Not one player put in a performance.

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05 Jan 2020 19:54:11
Surely you mean 5th?
Tranmere had a cracking result yesterday.

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05 Jan 2020 18:29:10
Ancelotti just learning what dross previous managers, DOF's and the board have allowed into our club over the past few years. He will get there but it will take longer than we all would like to think.

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05 Jan 2020 18:43:01
Bigreg. I said upon his appointment that this is a two season fix. I also suspect with the financial bad news that he does not have a lot to work with either.

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05 Jan 2020 18:55:31
Agree DFS just amazed a post earlier was blaming Ancelotti already for today. It's taken us years and a fortune to get this bad.

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05 Jan 2020 18:20:39
Pitty we didn't put our kids out, who do ok against them normally, that way we wouldn't have a double humilliation when we get beat, toal clear out needed, comes to something when our oldest players are our best? can only think of 5 players worth keeping.

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05 Jan 2020 18:19:25
Everton man of the match today after todays effort. , Tom Davies. And he didn't even play!

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05 Jan 2020 19:46:02
Their wasn’t a man amongst them.

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05 Jan 2020 18:10:33
I'm 47 and have had some embarrassing moments supporting Everton but this has to be the worst schooled by a bunch of kids we are afraid of anything in red.

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05 Jan 2020 18:35:07
We are cursed when it comes to them. They are definitely in bed with the devil.

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05 Jan 2020 18:08:01
Ins: anyone who can pass a ball.
Outs: Siggy, mans a ghost. Schneiderlin, is he even on the pitch. Delph, hasn't got a forward pass in him.
Until we get the midfield sorted then we really can't asses the rest of the team.
But today was an embarrassment and the guys above where the cause of most of that.

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05 Jan 2020 18:34:17
Shocking. embarrassed to be an Evertonian. We will have to be patient to see what will unfold in this transfer window. I just hope that Usmanov puts his money into the club!

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05 Jan 2020 18:03:06
Our squad is full of players that are just not good enough for this level.
Pickford - I don’t rate at all, too small, cocky and always making mistakes
Coleman- past his best and has lost a bit of pace, pace he needed big time as he was never the greatest defender
Sidibe - looked good in glimpses but past few games he has been very poor and looks unfit.
Mina - looks like a cart horse when running and is too slow for premier league.
Keane - shocking.
Holgate - still young but was poor today
Digne - had a good season but he looks a shadow of that player. Always caught out of position.
Schneiderlin/ Davies - not good enough for premier league. Davies a squad player at best
Delph - always injured and still to convince me he can bring anything to the team.
Richy - only thing he seems to bring is goals so he needs to do more
Siggy - so slow it’s unbelievable, goals have dried up so he’s a luxury player going through the motions too many times
Walcott/ Bernard - glimpses every 4-5 games, not good enough
Dcl - maybe he will develop into a decent centre forward but I don’t see it in him. He does try hard.
Kean - still very young and new to premier league but so far nothing to shout about.

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05 Jan 2020 18:10:55
True Joe, but sad, it is a long road ahead, all getting paid for nothing.

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05 Jan 2020 18:12:06
Spot on. And to add to that, not onr of them look like they care. We are the laughing stock of football and the sad thing is that some of the people laughing are these mercenaries on huge salaries that are just going through the motions.

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05 Jan 2020 18:12:07
Poor poor poor no one able to pass, slow to every ball that was there for the taking and we failed . Time for an injection of talent.

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05 Jan 2020 18:29:13
In short, time for the clear out, and not just the fringe, attitude as well as aptitude, so on top first half, came out with the notion that all they had to do was come out, in the second half to win, once momentum was lost the game was lost.
The problem is how do you off load players on such generous contracts?

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05 Jan 2020 18:29:52
No fun being an Evertonian. You couldn't even pick one player today that had a good game.

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05 Jan 2020 18:44:48
dont say DCL mate, the die hards think he is a £50 million pound plus striker.

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05 Jan 2020 18:02:31
Shocking They should all have their wages docked
At least CA knows he' a massive job to do
Siggy non existent again the back 4 were over run and out thought by a bunch of kids
Schnaderlin was a total passenger
Need to stand by CA and let him yield the axe.

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05 Jan 2020 18:26:46
Have to agree but will he get the money to buy the players he wants. That performance today was shocking. If we scored one of the chances we had in the first half it might have been different. For me the performance against city and today was poor. that's down to the manager.

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05 Jan 2020 18:35:29
Here we go, didn't take long did it. don't know what's more embarrassing the game or blaming Ancelotti for years of crap buys and mismanagement.

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05 Jan 2020 19:02:18
For gods sake don't get on CAs back. He has almost the same players to deal with as did others. Don't scare him off. We need to get rid of Moyes players, Martinez players, Koeman players, Allardyce's players before we can even start yo have a half decent team.

This poor chap will have to have at least 3 windows to work with (if he stays that long) . The one thing he cannot buy is pride and passion. We certainly lacked that today. How many times did Liverpool win the ball back in defence and sent it forward?

Every time we won it back in defence 80% of the time we passed it back to Pickford who frightens the life out of me when that happens. We are in a mess there is no doubting that. CA is I am sure the man to do it, but I feel sorry for him as this will certainly test the man in him.

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05 Jan 2020 19:11:41
Couldn't work out his tactics today. Against city all the team did was pass the ball backwards. Against Liverpool we couldn't even pass the ball. Played the long ball to DCL and nobody was even close to him. Passing was embarrassing by the whole team. Thought he might of brought on Bernard earlier as Siggy was awful. He has a huge job on his hands. He will need a lot of dough to get the players he wants. Will he get it?

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05 Jan 2020 18:02:03
I'm done. Ancelotti can't do anything to solve it imo. We need a whole new starting 11 and it's something that will take 5 years minimum to solve imo.

In the bright side if it does take five years we may have a half decent football team when we move into are new stadium hey.

Most embarrassing moment as a blue in my 24 years!

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05 Jan 2020 18:13:01
Only 24 years! Count yourself lucky.

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05 Jan 2020 18:37:43
hahahaha!

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05 Jan 2020 17:56:33
I'm off to see Jack Whitehall now, any of his jokes will pale in comparison to what Everton just produced.

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05 Jan 2020 18:02:45
Yes but at least you can laugh at Whitehall's jokes.

There's not one Everton supporter who isn't crying watching these jokers parade around in blue shirts.

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05 Jan 2020 17:56:14
If you can’t challenge for a ball, show desire to win, you should not have chosen football as a career. So that basically is all of this squad looking at a new career in decorating or plumbing because this game isn’t for them.
Ancelotti needs a complete revamp. Just hope we can survive the season in the premiership.

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05 Jan 2020 17:55:18
Once again 4 gilt edged chances 1st half we don't score result is inevitable.

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05 Jan 2020 17:53:32
Very disappointed.
They should all be ashamed of themselves and feel guilty about putting this on the fans and anchaloti.

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05 Jan 2020 17:57:42
We have to understand that we have an extremely poor midfield. You can almost guarantee that any game that Schneiderlin plays in is pretty much going to be a loss. He is awful!

January transfer window will be a little bit busier after that game.

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05 Jan 2020 18:02:20
I don’t know why I am shocked. Been the match and thought we didn’t play too bad in the first half but that 2nd half performance was woeful. I cannot think of a worse performance against LFC (in context of the team we played) than today. Not one shot on target in the second half, Full Stop.

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05 Jan 2020 18:18:23
Should’ve played r youth team / or at least Gordon Simms.

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05 Jan 2020 17:53:00
Match still has a couple of minutes to go but I have to announce the new manager bounce is officially over

There is something seriously wrong with this squad. We have been outplayed by Liverpool's youth team. They can pass the ball around - we can't. They can put pressure on off the ball - we can't. They play with confidence - we don't

It's not Ancelotti's fault but I guess he now knows the extent of the problem. This was embarrassing. No excuses just players who don't deserve to wear the shirt.

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05 Jan 2020 18:03:16
So disappointing. Absolute shambles from us. Can understand 1 or 2 players having an off game but it was pretty much the whole squad.
Schneiderlin - no words to describe, how he gets picked is beyond me, he offers nothing.
Digne and Coleman both had terrible games.
Walcott - must have had a dodgy orange halftime as the player from the first half didn’t turn up second half.

We kept putting ourselves under pressure by playing out from the back - someone tell the players it doesn’t matter that the manager is world class - you’re not! Keep it simple.

A brilliant opportunity to put the Liverpool hoodoo behind us and instead we get beaten by a bunch of kids who I’d happily have replace half of our squad.

Hats off to them they rose to the occasion and put our first team millionaires to absolute shame.

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05 Jan 2020 17:49:25
hang your heads in shame, full squad beaten easily by an reserve side. midfield are horrendous, wing backs shocking, cheque book needed once again. absolutely stinks.

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05 Jan 2020 17:57:02
Schniderlin start = a loss.

Don't get what CA was thinking bringing Delph on for Sig and having 2 defensive midfielders on. Just invited Liverpool to attack.

Kean did nothing but he didn't get any service. 1st half finishing was terrible all straight at the keeper.

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05 Jan 2020 17:47:09
Walcott did OK today but we deserve to loose. If we can't be at least a couple of goals up at half time playing kids then we don't deserve to win. A lot of hard work ahead for CA.

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05 Jan 2020 17:38:15
You could say it about most of this Everton team but Walcott should never pull on a Everton shirt again absolutely useless. Ancelotti must wonder what he has got himself into.

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05 Jan 2020 17:43:04
Absolute disgrace, they have seen the team sheet and just thought they could turn up. The liverpool players have shown that they want it more. Every time we keep going backwards with no options forward to pass to. Disgrace.

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05 Jan 2020 17:44:23
Throw schnederlain in there as well. What wtf does he bring. Please tell me. Can't defend, no creativity, doesn't run, everytime he plays we look disjointed. Might as well play with 10 men.

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05 Jan 2020 17:34:29
Ffs. Very poor 2nd half. That goal was coming!

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05 Jan 2020 17:33:19
Worst performence of the season. Terrible. Disgusting. Vile. Tactics all wrong. Players all 💩. An Absolute disgrace. Despicable. Everton are a joke. We don't even deserve to be in the Premier league. We don't deserve anything. Terrible.

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05 Jan 2020 17:23:33
Wow this is embarrassing 😳 we cannot even play a simple pass against Liverpool's academy. May as well pack up and go home now.

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05 Jan 2020 17:31:44
1-0 down. Humiliating.

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05 Jan 2020 17:32:27
Maybe we should have played a few U23 players. Would of shown more desire than this crock of s***. Massive rebuild needed.

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05 Jan 2020 17:52:11
Yep totally agree, some younger legs in this game would've been good idea. Our youth have beaten theirs to the league in 2 of the last 3 seasons. But the fact that 'premier league' players can't beat their U23's is bloody disgraceful.

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05 Jan 2020 17:15:41
We are poor! Coleman full of mistakes, Richarlson just moody!

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05 Jan 2020 17:07:47
Struggling against Liverpool reserves 🤣😂🤣.

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05 Jan 2020 16:45:33
Do we have a centre midfield today?

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05 Jan 2020 17:18:39
Erm it would appear not, our centre midfield is awful.

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05 Jan 2020 17:29:28
Embarrassing.

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05 Jan 2020 15:11:09
Well if were ever going to beat them, today is the day with that 11 they've put out.

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05 Jan 2020 15:43:47
If we can't beat that squad we should forget about it.

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05 Jan 2020 15:45:24
Definitely, we need to get on the front foot from the off and finally get that win at Anfield.

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05 Jan 2020 12:11:35
It's taken time but DCL and Holgate have really come along nicely this season. Holgate the first CB name in the team atm for me and the same WITH DCL in the striker position. These are the type of investments that we need and not just high cost transfers. Getting Iwobi for that money is insane and I think it is something the club needs to look at. Adding high cost players is good but we have always been great at unearthing talent and 'hidden gems and we should continue in doing that. I feel like we have tried to just buy success and that does not work.

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05 Jan 2020 13:26:59
A good point B-T it’s about balance really a mix of potential gems with some players in their prime
The problem we have is giving players time and the manager for that matter
There has been lots of posts in the past that Holgate isn’t good enough most around the time he was sent out on loan, and also similar about DCL even the other day someone said about snapping Utd’s arm off for £50m!
We need to show more patience let our investments develop, but then I feel we need good professionals around them to aid them both in the dressing room and on the pitch.
You are right though about money blown on supposed stars i guess we could class Iwobi Keane Walcott Tosun Schneiderlin in that category all have/ had something to offer but was it really what we needed? Only really added in glimpses not regularly enough.
Probably upset a few posters with saying that 😬
Never know though, Ancellotti might get something more consistent out of them.

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05 Jan 2020 13:42:45
You can buy success it depends on who is doing the buying.

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05 Jan 2020 14:29:27
I agree with most of what you say Southern Toffee but Iwobi hasn't had enough time yet so I wouldn't put him in the same bracket as the others especially when you say we need to give players and manager more time.

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05 Jan 2020 10:09:48
Seeing reports that West Ham are interested in Kalidou Koulibaly this window, I would be surprised if he was allowed to move but supposedly he does want to play in the Premier League according to the report
If he is going to move I feel he’s the type of player who would make one hell of a difference to our back line. right now!

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05 Jan 2020 11:57:18
If Koulibaly moves to West ham I will ride a unicycle round L4 in a West Ham Mankini singing I'm forever blowing bubbles.
Trust me, it ain't happening.

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05 Jan 2020 12:11:49
Well I would doubt he would move to the Hammers but the point I was raising is if the other parts to the story/ rumour are true in any shape or form that he wants a premiership move then this is the sort of defender that we could do with marshalling our back line for the next few seasons, plus he has an existing relationship with Ancellotti which I would hope gives us the edge!
Also talk of Demiral at Juventus being of interest 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath over Kalidou Koulibaly joining Everton.}

05 Jan 2020 13:14:21
i don’t think any of us hold our breath over anyone joining these days until it’s done and dusted Ed, we may be Blues but we don’t want to turn blue from lack of oxygen 😂.

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05 Jan 2020 13:34:01
Wasn't holding my breath over landing ancellotti ed002 so as unlikely as may appear with a list of other teams maybe having a edge over us with European football etc, I think could have legs certainly with the ancellotti connection (wishful thinking maybe, but what a statement of intent that signing could be) .

Just refreshing see us linked with top drawer players. Exciting times ahead. definitely see a marquee signing in next 2 windows, 1 that people think had no chance getting.

Really hope koulibaly is that signing.

COYB UTFT!

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05 Jan 2020 09:02:55
I know we will be linked with some superstars now and central midfield is a really key area to strengthen plus another CB is needed. But looking at the attack I'd be happy if we snapped up Mitrovic and Jarrod Bowen from the championship. 34 goals a 7 assists between them so far this season.

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05 Jan 2020 10:59:15
Jarrod Bowen - yes
Mitrovic - no.

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05 Jan 2020 09:02:15
I know we will be linked with some superstars now and central midfield is a really key area to strengthen plus another CB is needed. But looking at the attack I'd be happy if we snapped up Mitrovic and Jarrod Bowen from the championship. 34 goals a 7 assists between them so far this season.

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05 Jan 2020 08:49:16
Plan for today. not a lot until going to pub with me son for today's big game. Derby, pub, FA cup, beer (lemonade for the boy 😁) .

That's the plan in my head, pretty sure wifey has other ideas ha ha ha.

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05 Jan 2020 10:20:37
You're going to have to put your foot down on this one pal and do as the wife says 🤣.

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05 Jan 2020 12:57:46
Can't even go to the Pub. Apparently Grand Kids come first, so visiting and watching football (Grand Son) . Unbelievable, LOL.

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05 Jan 2020 08:01:12
Derby day today and hopefully we can give them a game after that disgraceful performance last time round. Hopefully Carlo will have more tactical awareness than Silva and not play to their strengths. I think we need to take control of the midfield today if we want to take anything out of this game with combative performance from the two central midfielders. I would go with Pickford, Digne, Keane, Coleman, Holgate, Delph, Richarlison, Bernard (if fit) with Keane and Calvert-Lewin up front. Know Keane is slow but think Holgate gives us more legs in midfield and Tom looks knackered having watched him against City. What's everyone else's thoughts?

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05 Jan 2020 08:54:38
10 against 11 is a bad idea mate. And Keane over mina?

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05 Jan 2020 08:57:54
Ball, I agree with you, but not sure I would be brave enough to play ten players against them 😉.

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05 Jan 2020 09:10:21
Your right can't believe I missed Mina obviously he slots in next to Keane. Shouldn't be posting so early in the morning 👍👍.

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05 Jan 2020 09:15:26
Defo not Keane at the back give me Mina every time.

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05 Jan 2020 11:07:11
I’d go with
Pickford
Coleman Holgate Mina Baines
Sidibe Sigurdson Delph Digne
Richarlison Calvert-Lewin
Subs
Lossel, Keane, Davies, Walcott, Bernard, Kean.

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05 Jan 2020 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 5th January 2019

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