Everton Banter Archive March 05 2018

 

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05 Mar 2018 22:07:55
Just for a bit of fun, and probably a tinge of desperation, I went on a site that let's you predict the fixtures to the end of the season. I got Man City, Man Utd, the dark side, Spurs and Chelsea as the top 5. Bottom 3 Huddersfield, Southampton, WBA with Huddersfield the highest with 32 points. We were 12th with 42 points and a BIG SIGH OF RELIEF THERE lol.

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06 Mar 2018 09:22:38
what's the site NickB57 it would be interesting to see what other fans get is it poss to still get Liverpool relegated ha ha.

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05 Mar 2018 21:40:01
Crystal Palace showing spirit and fight, and the support is fantastic. Everton take note.

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05 Mar 2018 22:03:21
lost 3-2. With spirit and fight you need tactics, motivation and good training. Roy Hodgson for me is a very knowledgeable man, his future maybe sooner than later is destined to either retire gracefully or become someone's DoF perhaps!

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05 Mar 2018 22:59:43
Maybe him and Sam could both sign in to the same old people’s home. Talk tactics of the seventies, and how to defend a lead.

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06 Mar 2018 09:46:55
Or maybe having a club that allows you to spend £75 mill on a center forward, £85 mill on a midfielder and an average of probably £40 mill on every player in the squad over a few seasons might just give you a few special players that should be expected wo win games? Justt a thought.

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06 Mar 2018 11:30:45
Only reason they lost that game was because they sat back and panicked when 1st goal went in, just like us. United are nothing special despite how much there team cost. Mourinho for all his faults was on the touch line driving his team on. Hodgson was having his cocoa, and was half asleep.

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05 Mar 2018 20:13:28
A little bit of realism is needed even though this is supposedly a rumour HYS. Manager if being replaced (although Ed002 seems to speak with knowledge and commonsense on this and other issues I. E. hang onto Sam for now) will not be Arteta or Conte, Arteta is in for the Arsenal job and Conte Italian National Side. DoF will also not be replaced anytime soon, he does appear to have feet firmly under the table, so that is a no go also.

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05 Mar 2018 20:03:13
Can i just put it out there that not all everton fans are toxic and that the majority of us really appricate the eds special mention ed25 and ed 002 who must be sick to death of us moaning but continue to feed us upto date info, i no times are hard at the min but let's not take it out on the eds lads.

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06 Mar 2018 02:10:21
How can people give a thumbs-down to the original post?

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06 Mar 2018 09:37:17
The Eds are not the only ones who are sick to death of all the moaning on here Johny. Gets a thumbs up from me good post.

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05 Mar 2018 18:33:00
Mori and klassen to start for u23s tonight, finally davy gets minutes, game is streaming free on everton website and swansea website for anyone who wants to watch the youngsters.

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{Ed025's Note - cheers johny..

05 Mar 2018 19:09:15
Its better on swanseas site haha typical.

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05 Mar 2018 19:27:24
1 nil eveerton, anthony evans freekick on the edge of the box brilliant football getting played here lots of one touch football and attacking play.

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05 Mar 2018 20:13:05
Beni klassen and evans should all be starting our next match.

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05 Mar 2018 20:13:18
Oh and mori.

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05 Mar 2018 20:43:20
2 nil another set piece grant with the ball jn lnocked in but a lad i havmt seen before uzanidis or something his name is he's a cb and has played really well alongside mori.

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05 Mar 2018 14:20:23
Can I ask the group what you think will happen if we loose again to BHA?
What will it say about the board if they cont to ignore his diabolical management
I think a Sunday League manager could do no worse and if a blue fat better!

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05 Mar 2018 14:42:33
I think the fans will turn on the board at some point if this carries on.

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05 Mar 2018 23:04:49
My long suffering missus have me confined to the nearest sanitarium. She already thinks I’m crazy for following this lot. I have told her it is a long term illness that only manifests itself on Saturdays, and normally clears up by Monday, most times that is.

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05 Mar 2018 12:59:41
getting depressing this season now every week i build myself up just to be let down, people on here will know i am always optermistic when it comes to the blues but they are draining me now.
i would sack sam today to be honest i honestly don't care who becomes caretaker, let rooney be player manager till end of the year cnt do much worse can he?
i would love gallardo as manager going into next year but i doubt everton are even aware of him let alone considering him but just get someone in who is going to excite us again please everton.

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05 Mar 2018 10:05:00
Knocked us out of the top half, but well done Brighton.

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05 Mar 2018 09:44:45
So it looks like Wenger is being linked with us via the papers, Personally I can't see that happening. Once he retires (looks like end of season) unless he is offered a position at Arsenal he will bow out of football all together, he certainly will not move up to us.

I would welcome him at our club with open arms, just because he is having a "one off" bad season does not make him a bad manager. For the last 22 years he has secured the Gooners a European spot with 20 of those being in the CL. Whilst in the CL he has slightly more than a 50% win rate and yet on these forums people seem to see him as a bad choice for us yet at the same time the same people will rather we opt for Silva who failed at both Huddersfield and Watford.

Oh well such is the game of football, just no pleasing some folk. (In my opinion) .

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05 Mar 2018 10:07:31
last season arsene wenger said that he would carry on in management even if arsenal did not renew so I wouldn't put money on him retiring once he is given the boot, silva managed hull not Huddersfield and hardly failed there, but agree silva seems to risk for me as seen if a club came sniffing he becomes unsettled. but reg wenger needs to be a young coach for next manager that can grip the club and make it his own.

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05 Mar 2018 10:30:16
Looks like we do have links with Arsenal with our new owner?, but we DON'T want Wenger, but can see it happening "one off" bad season, lol you are joking Grumpy?

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05 Mar 2018 12:56:34
I would take Arsene Wenger at Everton as a DoF with a younger manager in place to work with him.
We need a DoF who is a footballing man through and through and Wenger fits the bill.

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05 Mar 2018 14:00:48
Wenger as DOF would work great as he has the insight to be a great help round a club, but its not a role he would take he still see's himself as a manager and a manager only.

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05 Mar 2018 14:39:28
WBlue you're right it's Hull not Huddersfield, I was chatting to one of my grand kids who has just got a job there and will be relocating. Old brain not working right.

Do you think Arsenal may offer him a DoF role or will they want him away altogether?

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05 Mar 2018 14:53:08
Thoroughly agree with Grumpy. Would open my arms to Wenger. He won a hell of a lot more in those 22 years with Arsenal than our whole club did.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Arsenal the only team that turns a profit practically every year? Wenger does more behind the scenes for the football club.

Would be a massive asset in my humble opinion.

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05 Mar 2018 15:03:51
I personally think he'll move on from arsenal, where to who knows I think when they finally do change they'll have to change completely that means arsene not being at the club, they'll be looking for fresh ideas not recycled.

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05 Mar 2018 15:21:05
You may be right WBlue, Just look at Man Utd and we can still see a lot of Fergie influences going on.

I agree NBTB I also think he would be an asset for us, especially if he gets us into Europe for 22 consecutive years,

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05 Mar 2018 19:22:47
Exactly Grumpy.

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05 Mar 2018 19:44:56
Personally I wouldn't have him as director of sweeping up, let alone DOF.
he has never done that job before, remind you of anyone else we know.
Like players aren't guaranteed to be great managers, managers aren't guaranteed to be great DOF's.

Have we learnt nothing from the last 2 years. Let's get a manager in who fits with us, not get a manager and then try and fit in with them.

I can just see the likes of Rooney, siggy, Gana, Bolasie and Tosun trying to pass their way into oppositions penalty areas.

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06 Mar 2018 12:26:46
difference between a scout taking up that role and a man who was won nearly everything that he possibly could and has lived and breathed the proper footballing side of the premier league for over 20 years smit is huge.

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05 Mar 2018 09:32:31
yes we all know Sam needs letting go but let's not direct all our anger at him this is the third appointment on the run that has failed Steve Walsh has a lot to do with the situation we are in now he pushed for Sam and his gang of merry men he as dof signed off on the 652 no10s we signed yet he constantly gets away with it he sits there with a red nose that reminds me of an old alcoholic who is waiting for his next large glass of bells it is now time for Moshiri to show just how ruthless he is and get shut of both of them along with the 32 staff he brought in us fans can accept a new owner making mistakes as long as he learns from them but we won't accept a owner who will sit there and let goodison get the the level of anger that we witnessed under Martinez at Wembley.

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05 Mar 2018 14:02:44
the anger is directed at sam for his behaviour, its disgusting, putting all the blame on your players shoulders publicly doesn't help them at all, although it may be them not carrying out instructions, players want a manager to help them and stand up to the fight with them, all this what more can I do crap helps no one also his complete lack of understanding between club and fans is shockingly bad, never invested into the project and already sees himself back in sunny Dubai with a nice pay out of 9 million quid.

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05 Mar 2018 14:40:56
Good post Bluey79.

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05 Mar 2018 19:51:05
Conspiracy theory.
Imagine if you had fallen out with/ lost faith in your manager and finishing 7th would mean he got a contract extension. Maybe some of them have downed tools already and know that getting to 7th means he would stay after the summer.
It's happened throughout the prem, just ask Ranieri, Rodgers, Shakespeare, Mourinho and the rest.

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06 Mar 2018 17:00:27
Smit mate, That thought has crossed my mind many times.

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05 Mar 2018 08:03:16
LOL ARSENE WENGER.

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05 Mar 2018 14:02:56
could do a lot worse pal.

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05 Mar 2018 18:12:52
I'd take wenger straight away.

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05 Mar 2018 07:31:36
we have won only once away from home in 23 games if that's not depressing enough I get up to texts from arsenal men laughing wenger to everton this season is really like a bad dream.

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05 Mar 2018 07:02:44
I was an advocate of Sam Alardyce but this side of him (blaming the players and taking no responsibility for himself or his backroom staff) . His latest 'the players are failing to grasp my principles' indicates more a failure to get those ideas across. Surely if a large group collectively are failing in your opinion to grasp your principles then it is the method of delivery and teaching (training) that needs addressing.

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05 Mar 2018 07:34:59
the arrogance of the man knows no boundaries I remember him cupping his ear to the hammers fans when they were on a dismal run the sooner he gets his marching orders the better.

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05 Mar 2018 09:18:42
Using that very same arguement DFS it could be said that if the same group of men have not grasped anything that 3 people have tried to instill into them, then surely it can not ALL be down to those teaching.

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05 Mar 2018 09:21:54
BillyDean fans all around the world give a lot worse than cupping their ears when an opposing team is on a dismal run.

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05 Mar 2018 11:29:33
grumpy your constant jumping to SA defence is getting tiresome are you his knight defending him against all the bad supporters get real will you the man is beyond useless and if it was up to you he'd be here for four more years now if this clown is left in charge of our great club it is without doubt that we will end up in the championship.

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05 Mar 2018 14:04:45
with you on this billydean, the man is absolutely vile and sees us as a payday and nothing else mate he doesn't care if the club is fatally falling as he's kept us up and got his pay packet.

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{Ed0333's Note - why are you blaming Allardyce for your woes he ruled himself out if the job and your board was the one that chased him and offered him a ridiculously good contract that he didn’t deserve. If anything I’d use your vitriol towards Walsh it was him who pushed for him. Allardyce is an opportunity and you can’t blame him for taking the money he was offered. Walsh and moshire should be the subject of your ire.

05 Mar 2018 14:31:01
Billydean I am not jumping to his defence, I merely stated that fans do a lot worse than cupping their ears to teams on the decline. Actually our own fans do much worse, does that make them arrogant? Saying someone is arrogant for cupping his ear at a teams fans when they are going through a bad patch is just rediculous.

just carry on cherry picking what parts you want to support, and I will carry on supporting Everton as a whole, not just the parts I like.

You go on at me numerous times as though all that is wrong is my fault, you do it week in week out, let me tell you a little secret, NONE of it is my doing so get off my back because it is now becoming tiresome, it is supposed to be about opinions on this site but the way you attack it is becoming evident that the only opinions that actually count with you are those you agree with, the rest you resort to insults. Is that real enough for you?

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05 Mar 2018 14:54:24
this is the first time I've mentioned you GT I've never responded to one thing you've said obviously other posters are tired of the blind backing of SA and how can anything at the club be your fault unless you actually are SA which would make a lot of sense.

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05 Mar 2018 15:14:48
Ed0333: Farhad Moshiri must have been influenced by very poor advisors to have made the DoF/ managerial appointments he has. I hope there are much better people advising him now or I fear we’ll have another set of poor decisions.

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{Ed0333's Note - I’m really surprised By Moshris appointments i.e having Walsh as a DOF and hiring Allardyce because he came from Arsenal where you would have thought he would have had world class contacts/advisors on speed dial. Your right though Moshri needs to step up this summer and weave some magic.

05 Mar 2018 20:29:46
Grumpy you fail to grasp the principles of Management ;-) . ED0333 I agree to a point, there has been use of the hate word on this and other HYS, that is quite frankly ridiculous and uncalled for. Personally I blame whoever it is that Mr Moshri uses as his advisor and himself for continuing (it would appear from the outside looking in) to use that individual or individuals. I criticise Sam Alardyce for his delivery and use of the public forum for his 'it ain't me, it's them Guv' stance and comments.

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Review Of The Day 5th March 2018

05 Mar 2018 05:23:56
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 5th March 2018

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Premier League Match Preview Monday 5th March 2018

05 Mar 2018 04:30:10
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Monday 5th March 2018

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05 Mar 2018 03:49:32
Results against Brighton next weekend and Stoke after that should be enough, if we can get them. If we fail and the teams below us start picking up points however the pressure could prove to be too great for our already demoralised team and we could quickly find ourselves sucked into the relegation battle. Especially when you take into account the 2 games after are against City and them across the park with a potential/ probable loss of another 6 points. Squeaky Bum time eh lads.

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05 Mar 2018 07:11:35
Even if we presume Palace pick up a point against Utd tonight, we are still 6 clear of the drop. There are too many teams below us who have to play each other which makes 37 points the likely staying up line this year. That means 1 win or 3 draws. Having seen the latest two away performances, I view anything from our travels as a bonus. That leaves 5 home games. Liverpool and City, ah well never mind. Brighton next, just beaten Arsenal and on a winning. How sure do you feel about that one now? Newcastle and Southampton? Both fighting for their lives. Newcastle heavily defensively organised by Benitez.
I started typing this thinking it's only one win. Somewhere along the way I lost the "only" bit.

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05 Mar 2018 14:05:39
stoke away were typically not great at anyway never mind if they're showing fight to beat us as we can't outclass anyone at the moment and we have no fight. nervy ten games remaining.

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05 Mar 2018 10:37:05
I accept what you're saying Glennk, but you are assuming Palace don't beat Utd - a highly unlikely scenario I know but stranger things have happened. That could spark an upturn in their fortunes and where the potential 6 points loss against City and Liverpool could come into play.

Eds -- Does the fixture list may make things easier for us? Do the teams below us have to play each other? Can they take points off each other? Are their run-ins relatively easy with chances to pick up points?

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{Ed025's Note - all us bottom teams have a mixture remaining BigH some difficult and some where you would hope to pick up points, we wont get anything from the city or liverpool games and that makes our so called easier fixtures paramount that we get something out of them, 2 wins or 1 win and a couple of draws will see us safe but its getting them points that is the problem mate..

 
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