06 Jan 2020 21:20:07
So sigs has been told he can leave . Just him? No one else.
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06 Jan 2020 22:12:41
Seen it reported that 3 players been told they can leave - Tosun, Niasse and Martina
Haven’t seen it said that Sigurdson has been told he can leave but have read we may be open to offers for him - on his last performance we’d be lucky to get a pack of wotsits, kitkat and a can of irn bru for him!
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06 Jan 2020 22:33:03
Didn't the last 3 play in midfield for us on Sunday?
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07 Jan 2020 11:07:34
Can’t believe they had to be told that.
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07 Jan 2020 15:33:22
No mention of Schneiderlin! That must be some contract he has.
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07 Jan 2020 16:24:12
Big rumours of meeting at Finch Farm today in regard of the need to generate money through getting rid of players before we can buy. I have a feeling it could be true.
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07 Jan 2020 17:46:22
Our Owner has the money for Ancelotti.
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07 Jan 2020 17:58:38
He best have or we won't have an Ancelotti for long. Big expensive building blocks no more guff!
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07 Jan 2020 20:33:37
Just a thought in the striker department. How about a Lukaku return.
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07 Jan 2020 20:34:48
Isn't that the reason Brandts was brought in?
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07 Jan 2020 23:18:37
We have a swollen squad so we have to move people on regardless if we have money or not. Need quality not quantity.
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08 Jan 2020 07:00:35
That’s Brand’s job, to move players in and out!
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08 Jan 2020 18:27:35
Will be difficult to shift Sigurdsson as we will want to make as little loss as possible, his wages are high as well so for clubs that will be looking are very few I should imagine, top player but does not fit our club, we have a squad of players assembled by 4 different managers in short period of time, the next 2 windows will be crucial to where we want to be in 2 years time recruitment has to be done correctly which it has not been for a while.
There are not many in this squad that will bother me if they leave.
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{Ed025's Note - nor me mate..
06 Jan 2020 20:16:47
Just my observations over the Liverpool players and my thoughts on The Everton situation, Liverpool's Kids, young ones and older ones, their fitnesses levels are tremendously high, the closing down on their opponents, the tempo at which they close down, their strong will to close down their opponents and never say die attitude, when they make a pass the ball travels at a fast pace along the grass with inch perfect accuracies to-their own players. It's was very obvious that the young kids are prepared and trained in the same way as the first team squad, the Klopp way or just the Liverpool way.
I have for sometime been concerned over the fitnesses levels of our squad and also the fact that certain our big named signings have never really improved at Everton or replicated their form to warrant the millions invested into them, they just don't seem to come on.
To be fair to our players I do not doubt their efforts against Liverpool or any of the other teams we have fallen too, it's just that we don't show that we have got the capacity to get near them to close them down or the pace, we are lacking that tempo that pace power in our running over the first 5 to 10 yards, this is now the standard through out our team, at this time we can't say that this is going right through to our youngsters mainly because for some reason we don't introduce any at this time and also Dave Unsworth might train his squad fitnesses level differently, as he won the Premiership 2 league a few times
It will be very difficult for Ancelotti to get his players fitnesses level up now in mid season, this is normally established in pre season training.
Whoever Ancelotti goes for in this January window, 3 or 4 (I hope) then they will have to be super fit to carry this current squad
For me it's wrong to point the finger at any individuals because between them they made themselves look bad, they were all played too the same level.
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06 Jan 2020 22:18:45
Some good points Uran I agree, but you also need to look at recruitment and the types of players even at academy level that are being recruited. You can only go so far with training ‘fast twitch’ muscles etc. Genetics plays a huge part. Davies Dowell Kenny etc. all fantastic at U18,19 21 football but we majorly struggle getting this potential to the next step (for whatever reason) is it just a coincidence that these x3 are also not reknowned for their lightening pace? - not that lightning pace is the be all and end all.
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07 Jan 2020 08:56:36
Not just the fitness and speed of pressing opposition but also willingness to do anything for the team I think that is where we have failed with recruitment, players, should say some players just don't care enough. We need to recruit players who are hungry and winners, if that means we have to pay more so be it.
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07 Jan 2020 09:46:15
There are plenty of things wrong with Saturday the one for me is movement off the ball. Trying to beat a press you need movement off the ball, too many times our players where static making it easier to mark them and press when they had the ball. When we did have movement we did look so much better been our problem most off the season. That's why we look so much better on the counter than with the ball every one is moving.
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07 Jan 2020 10:21:07
Yes I agree with you all, we need our player to have the required pace to compete at this level but like many have said above we need the tempo improving, their mind set, never say die attitude and quicker decision making, basically the Liverpool youngest show our team up for everything that need to be improved, having said that we were not much better when we played Lincoln and Sheffield Wednesday, we struggled against them to get a result and at times out played and out manoeuvred
That’s where and why are in the League bottom half of the table
I am sure if we can see this then Ancelotti can and more we are definitely in safe hands now.
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06 Jan 2020 00:51:55
Hi all! New to this but read some interesting stuff
I agree CA needs time and perhaps 2/ 3 windows to create a team worthy of challenging for a cup or high league finish.
For me a team is only as good as it’s foundation (GK-CB-CB)
Pickford is good and played ok today, but there a lot better options out there, and this for me is our main problem. do not accept mediocre!
Mina same as Pickford, Keane is too nervous and incapable of playing for a high quality team.
Holgate needs time and experience. has done very well stepping into this team, yes he’s had moments of madness of errors which come from inexperience. This will come and worth persevering but perhaps with a better partner or two for guidance.
I’d like to see us really try and go after some big names with real quality to improve this squad. Maybe try Donnarumma from Milan and Nacho Fernandez from Madrid; whom I believe are both willing to look at new challenges and projects (big money providing)
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06 Jan 2020 13:17:01
Good post 97.
I think that 1 truly top caliber CB would have the desired effect. I have enjoyed Mina at times this season, bit of a beast but no leader. A top CB would lift the other CB and Goalie.
I agree Pickford has made some mistakes and sometimes his attitude gets stuck in fans throats but he's still a few years away from his peak and clearly has some lessons to learn. I think he will come good. We certainly have inferior players In other positions that must be sorted before new GK.
It's certainly clear that we must start chasing players 2 or 3 levels above what the last few windows. Think it's going to be 3 or 4 big signings in the Summer (not. going to speculate about this window) and that's going to upset a few on here because I think Carlo will demand the clubs promises and back him fully, I'd not be surprised if we spend 200 mil. (don't shoot me! I'm not discounting many leaving) because Carlo isn't going to accept half measures. If he doesn't get the backing he surely demands and was promised, he'll be off faster than you can say "Liverpool reserves"
Last night I was gutted. The 1st 30 mins we looked in good shape for an away win. What happened was a shocking implosion as well as givi g credit to those kids who smashed us.
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{Ed025's Note - im giving them no credit at all toffeeapple, we let them off the hook and should have been 3 up at the break, their win was nothing to do with how their kids played it was all about how astonishingly bad we were mate..
06 Jan 2020 13:38:03
No doubt ed25 I agree that we should have won 3 or 4 - 1 but we didn't.
And I think it's slightly too close to home for many of us to give them credit. That's your right.
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{Ed025's Note - i got absoule pelters from my red mates yesterday toffeeapple and on the liverpool pages today, so forgive me for not bending over and joining the media circus in telling them how good their kids are mate..
06 Jan 2020 14:22:34
Hahaha fair enough ed25.
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06 Jan 2020 15:20:17
These will be the same superstars who Villa battered. Ed’s correct, we were bloody awful even South Liverpool would have beaten us on that showing.
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{Ed025's Note - south liverpool reserves woburn..
06 Jan 2020 15:43:59
Mina has had his best games when playing as the right sided cb but as with Keane and Holgate whoever plays the left sided cb struggle as they always have to come back inside for their favoured foot. This is one of our main issues at the back also non of them fills you with confidence when in possession.
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06 Jan 2020 17:43:52
Yesterday was hard to take but we have to remember that we are Everton and we will get back up and fight as we have shown. So what positives can we take without getting overly optimistic or just papering over the cracks?
The game was a classic game of 2 halves and we should have sown it up by half time, could have been 2-3 ahead easy. But we didn't. We still don't have a proper finisher who just bags for fun.
Our tactics were spot on first half, they play a high pressing game leaving room at the back and time after time we got into that space by going down the flanks and over the top and created chances while they were unable to convert their possession into proper chances. So a proper CF is a must. DCL not there yet but he seems to be improving so he's worth sticking with.
So if we got our tactcs right first half what went wrong second half?
Basically 2 things: Firstly they got closer to use. Klopp got their forwards tighter on our defenders making it harder to pass out of defence or down the flanks so we were reduced to over the top and their players generally more aggressive for second balls thereby neutralising that threat too. And it worked, they stopped us creating chances but still hardly created chances themselves and the goal came from out of the blue. Secondly I think by 2nd half Everton looked tired, 7 games in 3 weeks started to take its toll: not winning as many second balls, not getting tight as much, not showing as much, not making as many runs, not tracking as much, all against a team that was fresh as daisies. That combined with a general lack of real pace throughout the side and the lack of finishing explains why Villa, who weren't on the end of a long run of games put 5 against them, but we didn't.
So the answer, we need strength in depth to rest players like other teams can (look at City's bench against us) and fill in for injured players eg CM. Fitness might also be an issue as I think it has been for a while with us fading late in games a lot. We also need better players including a proper finisher as has been true for how many seeasons now?, another CM and proper CB as a priority. And pace. We need more pace in the side. A lot of our first team should be our reserves or moved on. We have a great youth team too who won the Premier League 2 last season so maybe we should show some faith in them.
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{Ed025's Note - i think you are making excuses for them bunnyman, your very well written piece has left out words like..composure..bottle..and desire mate, these are professional sportsmen and should be fit enough and stronger than the kindergarten side they had out, personally i think they should all be ashamed of themselves..
06 Jan 2020 20:08:08
We need a commanding CB, we need a GK with longer arms (son in law is a red and was at the game - longer arms, his comment but right) . We need a DM with an engine and alongside him a playmaker. Not going to happen in January. This is not a two or three window but at the very least a four window challenge and that with AC at the helm.
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06 Jan 2020 20:50:33
Absolutely spot on Ed. Tranmere would have done us over yesterday. No credit for the young lads of Liverpool other than their focus and desire. They were poor at defending and didn't really trouble us at the back. We were just passing them the ball back. The finishing was woeful, seemed liem they were trying to hurt Adrian rather than Liverpool. There literally was no midfield. I'm sorry but the credit goes to how bad we werenot not how good their youngsters were. Worse performence I have seen form us and I'm 27. should have murdered them. Their goal was a good effort but should have been saved. If Pickford had better positioning or wasn't a midget for a goalie that would not have gone in as it did not have enough velocity on it. Sneiderlin and Sigurdson are a disgrace and should told to leave immediately and have to train with the under 23's. We could have strung a side together from the Everton page and put a better display in.
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{Ed025's Note - well im knocking on 62 BT and could still put in a shift better than siggy or schneiderlin mate..
06 Jan 2020 23:49:23
I said they're not fit enough which is in fact a pretty serious indictment.
Just saying "they're all crap" doesn't explain the stark difference between the 2 halves.
The lack of fitness was a big part of why they were crap 2nd half. It's been a problem all season with them fading at the end of games. The fact that at this time of year games come thick and fast is just another reason why stamina is important.
As for composure, I agree which is why I said we need a proper finisher.
You're right about bottle. There were some tackles bottled and they rattled us 2nd half.
So we need new, better players, with pace, but how we sort the level of fitness out, which seems to me to be a perennial problem, that I don't know. Has it been a bit of a holiday camp there? Will Carlo sort it out? Let's see!
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07 Jan 2020 09:21:01
I think you are all harsh about Pickford, made good saves during match came and claimed crosses against forwards, positioning could have been better for goal but think most premier league GK's would of struggled with that shot. Best GK I saw playing for blues Southall wasn't much taller it's about experience and commitment. Problem came with Schnieds not chasing back after losing the ball RM not tackling back when FB caught between 2 attackers CB covering attacking runs.
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