Everton Banter Archive July 06 2016

06 Jul 2016 22:04:06
I also hope my Stockholm syndrome line did not offend anyone if I have I never meant to upset anyone.

06 Jul 2016 23:20:00
Don't believe for one minute you meant to upset anyone one but the career threating injury the kid in question had was hardly his fault!

06 Jul 2016 23:25:42
Surprised you used "Stockholm Syndrome" to sum up Everton, but I sort of get your point :-)

06 Jul 2016 23:43:20
I agree he had a bad time with knee injurys that was not properly sorted and led to a few operations but even before that he was shite never a premier league player let's not forget he did play on tell 2010 we had him 2002-2003 so while injurys kept him out if he was any good he would of been signed as we had an agreement to sign him for 3m.

06 Jul 2016 21:57:27
Around Christmas- begging of Feb (pre investment) this site was full of negativity most of witch I agreed with. So fast forward to now got investment, got nice chunk of TVs deal, got a better manager and looks like at the very least the press now sees us as a team worthy of linking us with big names (bigger then we have ever been) so why are some of us on here still finding a problem. I think some of you have Stockholm syndrome we are no longer a poor captive of this league stop with this why haven't we done this or why no one signed my god remember the days when you would pick up the paper and read we was singing Rodrigo Juliano remember him not many will so now we are being link with better players and yes that at the minute is all it is linked with let's not hit the panic button just yet.

06 Jul 2016 18:53:40
So witsel going to chelsea. So much for moshiris millions. Nothing has changed whatsoever. Still takes a lifetime to do any deals. Seems to me kenwright still in charge of transfers and moshiri apparently supplying the money. Not seen it yet. A 33 year old keeper whoopee door.

06 Jul 2016 19:27:00
Has been confirmed?

06 Jul 2016 19:32:08
Give it a rest. The window only just opened. Maybe we should go out and panick buy on day 1 to please some fans.

06 Jul 2016 19:47:15
For goodness sake! All we have are rumours stop being so negative if Witsel doesn't come so what! On to the next one.

06 Jul 2016 19:47:44
Sorry, ment to say, has it been confirmed that he has signed for Chelsea?

06 Jul 2016 19:52:12
Hi Anomblue totally agree with you, i really thought that we would not have had anymore of this sort of tripe from posters beats me when you read that, that anyone would have have wanted to buy us, thank goodness its only the minority, GuernseyBlue.

06 Jul 2016 20:38:59
I'm sorry that we as a club have been through so many mediocre times but my god it's the 6th July not deadline day. So we not signed a big star yet and as per the papers are linking every player with every team so today he's not coming to us tomorrow he will be on the board of directors the press are everything we love and hate all in one they try to sell your best players like they did with stones or in the other hand they link you with every player to ever play football. That being said many If not all of us will put the tv on or pick up a paper to read what they are writing. So please Everton fans let our club get on with things and let's not start with the boards rubbish/ sack the manager stuff just yet.

06 Jul 2016 20:53:59
Totally agree Anomblue. Very early days. No need to panic, ever really 😊.

06 Jul 2016 21:10:02
It's not done yet. heard he's signing for us if you believe the forums.
It's only the sun reporting he's going to Chelsea. Everyone else jumping on there band wagon.

Check soli post from earlier today.

06 Jul 2016 21:48:28
If you believe 10% of what you read that's plenty. I read that Witsel is to replace Matic if he goes to Chelsea!

Please inform me if I'm insane but Witsel is no upgrade on Matic. Matic is one of the best in his position in the premiership imho. I know Chelsea didn't do good last season but Matic is top draw.

I'm not knocking Witsel. If he comes to Everton great but the report I read about Chelsea replacing Matic with Witsel is complete nonsense imho. Shows the complete make up stories they come up with.

06 Jul 2016 16:47:19
I just scrolled back through old posts as I am on holiday relying on wifi. I see my comment about Champions League sides getting first choice of signings, then Europa League qualifiers etc was disagreed by some posters. One comment was that it is all about money. I disagree. I would agree that if a Champions League team offered 20k a week less than us, then a player would more than likely end up with us. I take that point on board. However, what is more likely to happen in this modern age is a player's agent will tout his player to both clubs and get the best deal. He will tell the other club the deal that he arranged with the first club in order to get two almost identical deals. Then it is up to the player. and that's when the player chooses the Champions League qualifier. All footballers start their careers hoping to win trophies. I do not believe players sign "just for money. " That was the point I was trying to make. We ended up 11th. so Spurs and the other Europe playing clubs will appear more attractive tomost players. Yes if we offer silly money over and above what they can afford, then we might find some players signing for us. I would suggest that these are the wrong players. I want players who are hungry for success and money is just a part of their desires.

06 Jul 2016 17:11:10
"I would agree that if a Champions League team offered 20k a week less than us, then a player would more than likely end up with us. "

This comment is right. If a team offers more money in wages then the player will go to that team.

Agents are not looking for trophies for their player, they are looking to make them secure financially and if the club he may want to go to doesn't offer enough he won't go on the advice of his agent.

Lukaku is likely to sign a new deal and this is all to do with money. The older a player is I suppose money doesn't tend to be much of an issue but if an agent isn't saying "hey, you might get injured next week and have no career so sign for the most money" then he isn't really doing his job properly.

06 Jul 2016 17:58:19
Sorry Degs disagree, its all about money, simple as that.

06 Jul 2016 18:18:11
Money may be an issue to convince the players but I believe the possibility to be part of a project that matches their ambition. Do you think we are going to throw this money about without expecting to be a success? I do believe if we still had the same management team in place then players would move on. Yes we finished 11th but that will not be the selling point in any talks, the selling point will be being part of the awakening of sleeping giant. Being competitive in what will be a very competitive league next season. Not just with us but with other clubs too. Next season United will expect to compete, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool, City and dare I say it Leicester who IMO won't be able to cope with playing in Europe and the league. That's 7 teams who will be expecting to compete for the 4 champions league places and even the title. Are we happy to say let's get 8th behind these teams? No we will be telling the players we are going to compete with these sides for the top honours in the country. Am I saying we should be title challengers? Not yet but with the right additions why not.

06 Jul 2016 20:43:33
I will use Falcao as an example of how money can get any player.

I could mention a thousand more. When you talk about a ptoject, god knows why people say this word, then I could count it on one finger.

06 Jul 2016 20:56:38
So when Chelsea (a mid place team at best) had Abramovich come and throw all his money at them, the players they bought came to them because they wanted to play for Chelsea? Money, money, money.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea were in the Champions League when he arrived.}

06 Jul 2016 21:37:01
Thing is we as a club have got money but on the other hand we had a terrible Season so it is up to or board and manager to make players stay and join. Having money will always help that's a given some players are willing to play for any team that gives him £££££ other side of it is there are a few players that money ain't the be all end all (it still helps) they and again only a few of them want to be part of something new and exciting the trouble is that they only examples there is are ones where player are given massive contracts BECAUSE that's HOW YOU START SOMETHIN NEW AND EXCITING. Some succeed (early Chelsea, man city and Psg) some don't (Blackburn and just for a laugh Liverpool) last one had do be done. We have to be in the first 3 bracket spend money but don't be reckless I didn't mention Manchester United because think they could end up in both brackets.

07 Jul 2016 11:04:22
Nah. Ed002 makes a valid point re Chelsea. and the Falcao example is an individual example. Icouldnot list thousands who were only in it for the money. All the professional footballers that I have ever spoken to wanted success. They wanted trophies and would play football even if it was not their career!

06 Jul 2016 16:40:48
omg what is going on with this witzel one minitue he's signing for us then chelsea have agreed a fee then another rumour by whoever he's going to everton everybody linked with us you don't hear from other teams 1 day they are linked the next they are signed but us drags on for the whole summer annoying.

06 Jul 2016 17:12:20
He came back from holiday today apparently. So i'm guessing a few days away before there is any news.

06 Jul 2016 17:13:53
He's in apoor league, did not perform at the euros, he's 28 soon, and in the last year of his contract.

06 Jul 2016 13:40:54
City offer for Bonucci rejected, they were after Stones, can't be both can it.

06 Jul 2016 15:04:37
He's 29 Bonucci and with Kompanys injury record last season and the fact he is the only decent centre half they have I reckon they would want both.

06 Jul 2016 17:07:44
Bonucci is far, far better than "decent".

06 Jul 2016 12:48:21
Can, t wait for the new season to start we may be the surprise packet. are we still interested in yarmolenko? Or has that one on the back burner one idea, Mcgeady and kone for a new stadium!

06 Jul 2016 10:00:18
The Schmeichel rumours are exciting. Dunno whether it's just paper talk but he was immense last season for the champions.

06 Jul 2016 13:06:47
Good keeper no doubt but IMHO we should be throwing silly money at Stoke for Butland.

06 Jul 2016 08:22:35
Sky sports reporting Witsel signing for us today for £21.5.

06 Jul 2016 00:46:24
I'm loving the new rumours tbh, previously optimism and everton were complete opposites of each other but mohshiri sure has filled me with hope. COYB!