Everton Banter Archive April 07 2016

07 Apr 2016 21:02:00
Just read Dave Prentice, s column on line for the red echo tomorrow, tell you what I urge everyone to get on it.

07 Apr 2016 21:18:52
Let's see if other reporters actively and aggressively pursue this topic at future media/ press conferences.
RM is being increasingly criticised by television/ radio pundits and in the press, but not during face-to-face interviews.
It's time for those reporters - local and national - to grow a pair, be relentless in challenging RM, ask tough questions, demand honest and unequivocal answers, and not worry about the club reacting pathetically by banning reporters. Trouble is, the club/ media relationship is far too cosy - and RM, BK, the "people's club", etc., are so nice that no one want to upset them.

07 Apr 2016 21:31:15
RM will not sack himself? its up to Bill to have the balls and sack him now, a lot of you think wait till the cup is over? we would need a lot of luck to win it.

07 Apr 2016 22:19:30
Isnt up to Bill anymore, is it?

07 Apr 2016 22:32:22
. as I said yesterday folks. Baines has thrown a grenade not just on the floor the Efc shareholders but also in the dressing room by his comments and well done to him for his brutal honesty. the article in the Echo tonight is brilliantly written by David Prentice and so true and is a real turning point in the media coverage of the clueless ones management style. I suggest all the fans sing Leighton Baines name out loud non stop every game til the end of the season starting this weekend at Watford showing very clearly to the board what us fans think and who we back on his one., but be sure of this fact, Baines words have started what is the beginning of the end of the road for our current manager!

07 Apr 2016 23:11:50
We have an outstanding chance of wining the FA cup, giving the quality of the sides left in the competision, why do we have to wait for this plonker to throw it away, before we sack the bum.

07 Apr 2016 23:14:27
Just read Echo and most of the posts, surely the clueless one is finished, at last public condemnation of the fraud. At the next home game we must give full voice with banners as well let the directors and BBC and SLY really know our feelings.
We have suffered for to long and Martinez should have gone a long time ago in my book.
Come on blues let's tell Kenright and Moshiri how we truelly feel.

08 Apr 2016 01:29:31
Wise words mate no doubt we will be called non supporters by some but the stats don't lie. Sack now sack now and bring back some stability to our great club.

07 Apr 2016 20:09:25
I admit it: I was happy to see RM appointed in summer 2013 and gladly lauded his first season in summer 2014.
By summer 2015 I was completely disenchanted with him.
Nevertheless, I went into this season (his third) with hope (more than expectation! ) that he'd get back to the standards of the first season. Well, those hopes have been well and truly dashed.
One "blip" season is tolerable, but two in a row (the second potentially with an even lower PL finishing position) is unacceptable.
I also like and admire BK, but his gushing praise of RM goes way beyond loyalty and just strains credulity.
It pains me to say this, but until BK no longer has a real influence on the running of the club - other than being a fan - then we won't make the most of the opportunity that the telly money and the FM investment presents.
By all means, make BK a life vice-president or suchlike and give him respect for getting us out of the "Agent Johnson" mire, but let the club now be run on a strict results basis both on and off the field.
We can still be the "people's club" and be part of the community while also striving for success. That means giving a manager three seasons to shape a squad and deliver success. If he does, then a extension beyond those three seasons makes sense - if there isn't success, then don't extend and bring someone else in. RM has had his three seasons and he's not delivered - even an FA Cup win wouldn't be enough in my humble opinion.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind - except that like so many fans I do mind :- (

07 Apr 2016 22:48:39
Hear, Hear! Really great post that Sid.

08 Apr 2016 05:48:05
Sid for manager. he speaks the truth.

07 Apr 2016 17:05:58
. don't you worry Bainsey, you're one of us mate. us fans understand 100% what you meant. not long now until the clueless 1 will be departing for good. I wonder if we'll get an apology from him for 2 seasons of crap?!? No, very much doubt it!

07 Apr 2016 14:12:01
Don't want to moan honestly I don't but how can this clown listen to lukaku brassing himself out to europes elite in an interview and two days later make light of it in his press conference then when bainsy makes an honest assessment of our form he makes him apologise personally I would have told Martinez to to give his head a wobble what an absolute first class tool this man is he has to go I think if we brought a new manager in we can win the fa cup I think the whole club will get a massive lift with a new boss and yes I would take moyes I think I would take anyone but this fella he has to go.

07 Apr 2016 15:15:16
Blue Liam
I wholeheartedly agree mate
A new manager and the lift he would bring would almost certainly being league safety and the FA Cup
Good post mate.

07 Apr 2016 15:46:15
He is on borrowed time Pab/ Liam, once a player comes out saying what Baines said then its downhill from there, the players must be feeling this so apart from Wembley they will have no moral to actually put in a shift, I hope they do Wembley though, then again Martinez will probably get another 12 months then, or Xmas.

07 Apr 2016 18:03:05
What do we expect, were 12 and he has a tossa of a agent, we've got worse every year i'm not surprised in this day and age at all.

07 Apr 2016 19:26:05
Great observation Liam. the man is a walking contradiction.

07 Apr 2016 21:18:10
Mikedablue, I agree and I said this would happen when we signed him then the season after because he done same at Wigan record points first season the Lowe lower lower every season after resulting in relegation. Ppl say moyes took us as far as he could ok bu rm takin us back to were we were. If bk doesn't sack him I hope to god our new owner buys more an takes control an does it him self.

07 Apr 2016 12:42:10
Baines has been made to apologise, for telling the truth, we know that in this day and age player can push through transfers, yet when unt made an offer for him (and it must have been tempting) he stuck by the club.
The people who should be apologising, are those who appointed a manager who had just been relegated (afder two close calls) and now lack the ball to own up to their mistake, and sack this useless fraud.

07 Apr 2016 13:10:14
The fool is digging his own grave.
The Web has lit up over this Barnes 'apology'.
C'mon Bill admit you got it wrong, call an extraordinary meeting and have done with him tomorrow.

{Ed025's Note - as much as we want it mushy i cant see anything happening until after the cup run at the earliest mate..

07 Apr 2016 15:29:16
This clown is completely infuriating. What he should be doing is asking Baines how we can get the chemistry back.

People like Lukaku do not help and it's what he said that does more damage to the team that what Baines said. He drives me mad.

07 Apr 2016 13:29:29
Ed,
If he's not careful Bill is going to start to get the pelters.
He appointed him alone and had a short list of one.
I believe he's got to act pretty sharpish because it's soon going to boil over with fans.
RM must be thanking God we're away this Saturday.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mushy mate..

07 Apr 2016 10:44:57
Martinez's comment about Leighton Baines having to apologise are appalling. If RM is still manager next season I'm sure Leighton would move elsewhere.

07 Apr 2016 11:19:35
I thought we lived in a democratic society freedom of speech and all that.Not under the clueless one in charge at Everton its become an autocricy.Baines is within his right to come out and tell everyone just what's going wrong.He never pointed the finger at anyone although we all know whos to blame and that he is oblivious to the fact.Sick of posting about that little hitler Martinez pulling what little hair I have left out.Not going to post about him again until his bags are packed on and he's on the first plane back to spain outta our club.

07 Apr 2016 11:22:36
Just one more, its Martinez who should be apologising to us and the board for conning the arse outta us for 3 years.

{Ed025's Note - it has turned out that the job was too big for him jimmy, i dont actually blame bobby hes a chancer who aimed high and got a top job because he had the gift of the gab, but halfway through last season we as supporters and im sure even the board realized the job was a bridge to far for the guy, thats when action and ultimatums should have been given as to performance and results imo, now its gone beyond the pail and i for 1 will not be happy unless action is taken on the matter very shortly mate..

07 Apr 2016 11:53:24
We are lucky Mr Moshiri has come in Ed because if he didn't then we would be stuck with the loser.

{Ed025's Note - he has yet to change anything yet degs but we live in hope mate..

07 Apr 2016 12:20:19
so bains has appoligised. hmmm.so why is fraud saying he has? let us see bainsys quotes let us read his appoligy.there is NO appoligy from bainsy this is fraud saying to baines I will put out apploigy in your name but in my words then you can keep your place in the team.imo bains is a very intelligent person and knows full well that wot he said was the truth and was meant the way it came out.if I see quotes from bains or hear it from himself then I will bleave there was an appoligy untill then don't bleave for one minute that he said sorry. robbie is a liar and a fraud and this is wot people like him do to cover their backs.

07 Apr 2016 13:52:07
I know everyone is saying Baines has had to apologise, but does that mean he has apologised to his team mates or Martinez, because as I read Baines original article no chemistry in the team is about the players relationship with each other not Martinez and yet everyone has decided he was talking against Martinez.
I think he was saying too many players playing for themselves, Lukaku, Miralles and Stones and that none of the players want to take responsibility on the pitch, we have no leaders, and our captain doesn't bollock the players for screwing up apart from last weekend.
Thats how I understood Baines comments.

07 Apr 2016 14:25:40
Toffepaul, very well put it is nice to see that suporters are beginning to see Martinez for what he really is, I do not think he is a nice guy, that is the politest thing I can say abut him.

07 Apr 2016 15:06:47
still waiting for bainsys sorry "quotes" in the media,ssn,web sites,twitter sites the whole shabang but nothing only wots coming from mr frauds mouth. usally when a player says sorry for wot ever reason their is a quote to read from somewhere so I can only assume that fraud dreamt this appoligy last night so like I said in my last post bains has NOT appoligised so if I was bains I would put it out there that he has not said sorry then this would surley speed up frauds exit. how can THERE SEEMS TO BE NO CHEMISTRY BETWEEN US INFACT ITS BEEN LIKE THAT FOR A WHILE NOW. how do you missinterpit that sentence its inpossible. I will bet you anything that bains has been told to stay away from any media interviews incase he is put on the spot about the NON APPOLIGY. one of our most respected and senior players effectivley being told off its deplorable. I agree with a earlier post get the white hankys out for our next home game and win lose or draw get them waving because fraud obviously does not bleave all the fuss he reads about him so maybe if he saw it with his own eyes he will take the hint. maybe moshiri and bill will decide its time for him to go awsell as seeing is bleaving so get them snot rags out.

07 Apr 2016 08:35:39
Better headline than present commitment,
PUPPIES IN PINK!

07 Apr 2016 00:09:37
Just for fun iregardless who leaves in the summer, who would you guys like to see us sign (realistically) lol. For me it would be

Strikers, lacazette, batshuayi

Midfielders, yarmolenko, Isco, wijnaldum

Defenders, think we've got enough. Maybe a rb as cover for Coleman. no one jumps out for me tho.

Keeper, has to be butland

And I'd like to see rk come in for rm.

07 Apr 2016 01:04:10
I don't think that many of the above players are particularly realistic.

I wouldn't pay £20m for Butland when you can get Begovic for half the price personally. I would like to see Batshuayi if Lukaku leaves. Doubt we could get Lacazette or Isco. Yarmolenko a maybe if no-one else wants him.

If I was Koeman not sure I'd come to Everton. My pick is Frank De Boer. Good up and coming manager looking to test himself, but with enough pulling power for good players due to his reputation from his playing career. That being said I would take nearly anyone to get rid of Bobby at the moment.

07 Apr 2016 09:32:36
Blue Tommy. I'm with you on De Boer, although I don't want an up and coming manager I do think he'll win the league with Ajax and therefore establish himself as a top manager.

Now is the time to get him.

07 Apr 2016 12:29:07
I agree. I can't see Lacazette or Yarmolenko saying "I've always wanted to work with Eddie Howe" (no disrespect to the excellent job he's done)

07 Apr 2016 14:56:45
id have a look at Serge Aurier for RB. completely frozen out of PSG following his unsavoury comments. Talented player with a great physical presence who would fit our system. Unfortunately, he would have a few higher profile suitors I would suspect.

{Ed001's Note - not that frozen out, he started last night against Man City!}