Everton Banter Archive January 07 2016

07 Jan 2016 18:32:03
Here's a question fellow blues. We all know that howard needs reliving of his duties as our number one.
Here's my point though is Joel Robles good enough to be our long term number one myself deep down I don't think he is I don't know why I can't put my finger on it which would mean I believe we need to spend decent money on a keeper with the right quality in his mid 20s that can give us a good 10 yrs service maybe I'll turn out to be wrong but anyway there's my thoughts on our goalkeeper situ.

07 Jan 2016 19:46:52
Butland is the only keeper I'd like to see us buy. This is why. As you say a mid twenties keeper with 10 years service is what we need. But that type of goaldie is exactly Joel.

We're not going to get De Gea or Courtois. So it would be a second or third choice keeper we'd be realistically buying. Which is what Joel is.

Someone mentioned Joel kept De Gea out of the team when they were in the Spanish U21's. So the potential is there.

I do think Joel would make mistakes if he was in goals. But I think he'd grow out of them. For me he has improved a lot since he came to Everton so I'd only expect that he'd improve even more if he got plenty more game time.

I say play him. Can't imagine he would be worse than Howard and there's a good chance he'd get better at his age of mid twenties. If he doesn't improve enough then go all out for a new keeper.

07 Jan 2016 20:19:09
I get what your saying nb and of corse I hope he proves me wrong I also believe he's improved a lot since he signed and maybe a run of games will build his confidence which is a massive part of a keepers make up but like I say I can't put my finger on what it is.

08 Jan 2016 08:38:20
Listening to Brazil and Wilkins on TS this morning both saying Howard needs replacing and Robes possibly not the answer, trouble is a top replacement is likely to be £15m plus.

{Ed025's Note - we should be able to afford that wakka after the money we received from sly..

08 Jan 2016 12:07:43
I agree wak but like ed says we should be capable of 15m. Ay ed although I new rocky was a fan I didn't know he was funding us. (Oh sky haha)

{Ed001's Note - well Sly did pay a fee to use Goodison in the movie Creed....}

08 Jan 2016 11:27:44
true Ed025 just got to get Roberto's blinkers off!

{Ed025's Note - we do mate..

07 Jan 2016 13:11:24
Any chance of a poll Ed? Howard or Robles for goalkeeper.

{Ed033's Note - Ok, Poll is now up.


Howard or Robles Poll

07 Jan 2016 17:31:06
Eh Ed, I think we'll the poll as should Robles be goalkeeper.

07 Jan 2016 17:44:23
And Let RM see it lol.

07 Jan 2016 18:05:45
Poll doesn't matter Mr Martinez has already said Howard is No 1 and Robles knows this, terrible comment to make in my eyes. Moyes had his favourites but this guy is worse because he is also arrogantly stubborn. I am not having a go at Tim but if our defence played as well as they did last night what is the common denominator when they play not so good in league games. For me it is a combination of TH and RM costing us points.

07 Jan 2016 18:21:54
I agree dunc but the polls are to gage fan opinion. By the way Robles.

08 Jan 2016 09:26:13
As Martinez has said since the City game, the defence have recovered their confidence or word to that effect. More confident because Joel is behind them says it all.

07 Jan 2016 12:03:42
Just a note on something, after the World Cup a lot of people on here didn't want Lukaku, they wanted someone else.

So, do people still wish we bought Divock "I still haven't escaped Tony Hibbert's back pocket" Origi instead of Rom? Because he came on as a sub for Belgium once.

07 Jan 2016 13:26:49
Don't remember anyone asking for origi especially after rom had a great season that year for us.

07 Jan 2016 14:57:02
Plenty did, type his name in the search bar and scroll down a bit.

07 Jan 2016 17:14:47
Swan, I could be totally wrong on this but was it not you who preferred Bony at the time? Apologies if it wasn't you :)

07 Jan 2016 09:11:01
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07 Jan 2016 02:59:11
Listened to the game at work but how did Robles look and command his area. Was there an air of confidence within the back 4.

07 Jan 2016 05:59:12
the defence was solid and robles deserves to stay in but will bobby see it that way I doubt it, robles imo deserves a crack at no1 he's a man mountain and the save he pulled off would of been a goal if howard was in, stef we have nothing to fear from city we are better away from home i'd be more worried if we was at goodison we are more than capable of pulling it off, fingers crossed the injuries aren't as bad as they looked gr8 team performance only barkley and geri dindnt perform to the best of there ability, the slagging Osman gets on here he deserves credit with how he coped coming on at half time for cleverly he has something to offer the team from the bench imo, barry and besic were outstanding, baines best game for a wile, mori brilliant and lukaku is becoming a legend C. O. Y. B managers tactics were spot on and team selection.

07 Jan 2016 07:43:35
That performance, set-up, adaptive tactics and commitment is somewhat like some of us have been on about for months. Look a different side with Besic playing (made Toure looked ordinary) it gives Barry the legs he needs and more room to slot in. Observations, we really do need a left sided all rounded midfielder, somehow/ somewhere a forward to take the pressure off Lukaku and the defense looked a more confident unit with Robles in goal. Conclusion much better performance, Goodison was buzzing but and here is the pessimism I/ we just know that the next League game RM will revert to type, Tim, Kone will be in and Team will look ordinary again.

07 Jan 2016 08:53:34
Muff I thought Barkley done his bit. He looked sharp I thought. There was more go in him than of late anyway.

07 Jan 2016 09:22:48
he gives away the ball to easy his positional play is his worse attribute he needs to work on that so much he had a ok game needs to improve just my opinion ntbt he's prob are weak link in midfield because of these faults, he should of put us up 2-0 but hit it strait at the keeper any were else we would have a 3-1 score line he did improve through 2nd half but thought besic and barry carried him at times.

{Ed025's Note - bit harsh that muff, i thought he was very good last night, yes a few slack passes but was strong and carried the ball really well for me mate..

07 Jan 2016 09:31:13
he still has a lot to improve to his game ed025 that's all am saying would of given him a 6 out of 10 him and geri were are two below par performers compared to rest as they were brilliant i. m. o.

{Ed025's Note - i think we are all expect a bit too much of ross muff, i have been a big critic of him in the past but thought he was really good..

07 Jan 2016 09:53:15
We where brill till Osman came on, and he did nothing again.

{Ed025's Note - he was not too bad stig, but for me was the wrong option, i would have put lennon on myself..but what do i know mate..

07 Jan 2016 10:07:33
agreed.

07 Jan 2016 10:12:39
That angle would have been incredibly hard to score from muff and he did so well to get onto that ball before the defender and get in on goal. I thought he played well, bar some poor passes on occasion, I thought he looked dangerous on the ball and running at defenders.

{Ed025's Note - im with you Tmh..

07 Jan 2016 11:32:42
Thought Barkley was okay, in fact his game is getting to the point of consistency where we are quite unmoved when he has a okay game. The other big plus is that is two solid games out of Besic running that midfield, to see Traore moaning last night was cool. Now if we could just stop Roberto and his 'Best midfielder in England', phenomenal, exciting etc! life would be grand.

07 Jan 2016 00:55:08
Great win tonight but have we done enough to go through I don't think so. Shame as City where there for the taking tonight some better decision making in and around the box and we could have really hurt them. We let City of the hook tonight and I pray we don't regret it.

07 Jan 2016 02:50:47
Why not? If we go there and get a goal City have to score 3 to beat us, if we somehow score 2 then they need 4 to beat us. We are much better away from home and they are bombarded with the league and Champions League so may rest players and if not their players will be tired. We have a great chance, their defence and Goalkeeper is dreadful, we will get chances.