Everton Banter Archive July 07 2012

07 Jul 2012 19:39:55
hows the weather in eng here in pak its 50 degree Celsius


PakistaniBlue

Beautiful and sunny in Skem today Big J

Degsybluenose

Was p*ssing it down but we've had a day's respite jella

ToffeeTony

07 Jul 2012 16:57:59
ok everyone, we would all love a new owner with plenty of money but... we have made some decent signings from january to now, with it looking likely more are coming in. we are looking like a very strong team and it strikes me that a takeover at this point would be disruptive to the club because we could end up with a bunch of rash bigger money signings at the last minute which throw moyes off his gameplan for the start of the season. everyone knows we end every season very strong so if things stay as they are now, we could get that much needed good start to a season and who knows what might happen. i think for now we should not be concerned with a takeover, at least until the transfer window shuts.

I fully agree. Moyes has been so calm at these times in recent years and it happens so often, that he knows what he's doing in this situattion.

In recent interviews, etc, he's been upbeat and I'm pretty sure he has everything planned for this upcoming season.

And, as you mentioned, we finished last season as one of the best teams in the league, and with us signing Naismith so early on, Moyes has already started building a team around Felli and Gibbo. With all due respect to Bill and the board, they don't exactly give Moyes mega millions in each window, but our club is never in the news for financial instability. The club is doing very well, football wise and financially, so if we ever did get taken over, I think it would be best to happen in the January area, that's assuming we are having a bad season at that point.

I'll finish up on my transfer views. Everyone says they don't want Rodallega, however he is 26 and, knowing Moyes, won't be counted on for getting the important match winners. He is a very good player, who might not exactly score every chance he gets but we didn't expect Saha to do that either. But it's different this time as Rodallega isn't in his 30s.

Whoever is signed in this window is signed for a reason: because Moyes knows he can do a job for us.

I think with Naismith (signed), Pranjic, Pienaar and Rodallega and maybe even a winger (Weiss or Ince. Ince rumours are picking up) I would be undoubtedly happy. Even happier if Baines and Felli don't go.

Lastly, I'm almost certain we don't need to worry about RB, at least until January, and that's if we are doing really bad. Because Hibbo, a blue at heart, and Neville, valuable experience and a good player on his day, are doing great jobs, jobs which we should be fine with for this season.

Whatever happens, happens. Come August 20th, I'm sure Moyes will be extremely happy with the transfers, in and out.

COYB! NSNO!

Keith EFC.

Great post that Keith.
Joe EFC

07 Jul 2012 15:44:25
Everton want Danny simpson Daniel pranjic, peanut and rodallega if we get those and pay for them with the sales of anichebe baxter and yobo along with one of either of Coleman or cahill i will be in as much heaven as tristan at a pet shop boys concert. the duck.

Take that m8'....all day.......Jason orange,....

07 Jul 2012 14:49:29
Another twitter link Reto Ziegler Euro 4mill. From Rebubblica Italia. Any idea who he is

Was he at Spuds a few years back {Ed025's Note - yes mate..

And Wigan

07 Jul 2012 13:49:03
hey eds, i was thinking, IF we have got 16mil for cardozo, why don't we put a cheeky bid for RVP frm the aRSENAL. Only got 1 yr left on contract.. why not?

JackEFC

Just because he wants about 200,000+ a week and we could only offer him like 80k at the absolute max :/

Ha ha ha ha there are about £200,000 a week reasons why not mate. Terry blue

Mate arsenal wouldn't even consider 16m for him it'd be more like double that. They gave us 10m for arteta and as great as he is he's definately not worth a measly 6m than RVP. But I definately love your optimism and choice in players mate.

SydneyBlue

His Wages are well to high for us.

I hope no koppites are reading this post as it is embarrassing to us, we were all laughing at them or saying this last week, why would you post this Ed

Degsybluenose

Come on lads, let's have a collective head wobble please!

I love the blues but would like to think we're all a little bit more realistic than this!

DBEFC

07 Jul 2012 12:47:45
I'm not trying to take credit for this idea - I've just seen it in a post on the official Everton website. I just thought it was a cracking idea & wondered what you guys thought of it. The poster suggested that, with all the recent transfer deals & close links that have been forged with Rangers, that maybe we should be offering to play a friendly with Rangers to help their financial plight.
I've been really impressed with the attitude, friendliness & support from the Rangers fans on our site recently & would like to be able to help their club in any way we can. The SPL won't be the same without them. (& this comes from someone who normally favours Celtic! { One of my distant Scottish relatives played for them in the 50's})

Toffee Tezza {Ed025's Note - im all for that tezza

Spot on that I also agreed with the poster who said we should loan them our youth players. Dilefc {Ed025's Note - that was me..

We could also send 3 or 4 of our fringe players to them on loan to get some first team action and help them get up the leagues back to where they belong. since we have took there best 2 players, plus they are not aloud to buy, just loans

y0rksh1re_blue

It would also give moysie a good chance to scout whatever talented players they have left.... Haha just joking I completely agree loaning them a few youngsters would be positive for both clubs would also be a good chance for the rangers fans to give Jelavic and Naismith a proper farewell as I'm sure they are still very highly regarded.

SydneyBlue

07 Jul 2012 12:27:54
What do people think about coleman. Do yous think he's not good enough or that moyes is telling him to defend an stoped his natural attacking. Thought he was the bissness when he burst into the first team. Also think fans. Need to get of rodwells back. Why have always got to have a wipping boy in our team. Hibbert-- osman--- neville-- an now its rodwell. {Ed025's Note - i know!!..we should all be picking on vic..

Ha made me laugh ed. Anichebe is a joke but also baxter at 1.5 mil haha.

Anichebe is not a bad player would do a job at a club like Wigan. {Ed025's Note - i agree mate..

I,M not convinced about coleman at all, he's had some good games for us but ususally againsnt the lesser teams. when he comes up against the better teams he struggles to get in the game, hes not a bad squaddie but the way its going our squad is getting stronger and when everyone is fit he could miss out. ( wella ) {Ed025's Note - good assessment wella..

Why are you all picking on our youngsters,
rodwell is a england in the next few years, colman had injurys last year still only young.
Vic yeah not the greatest and hibbo as done a great job over the 10 years like osman, if anything you shold back all of them unless they make a mistake, as on the pitch it is a team not just one person and theat what is everton is about, so be positive as we have already made one signing and will make more so be positive and optamistic for next season, not all doom and gloom like everyone think it is, where the best club out there with a pound to player ratio, and if any other team spends more bully them, but look where WE are not where THEY are. Where blue and proud.

y0rksh1re_blue

I'm not convinced about him but always seems to do well when he's up against Ashley Cole!give him another season I think!

I think Coleman deserves 1 more season with us. His first season he flew out the traps, he was positive, quick, direct, took players on and he scored 7 goals i think, also people forget he came 2nd to Wilshere in the PFA Young Player Of The Year!
Last season to give him an excuse he was suspended for the first 3 games and then injured for the next 3 then he played till october got injured till christmas then he came back got injured in january and only got back in the team in april so he was stop start all season with no chance of building confidence or momentum due to not having a run of 5-6 games on the bounce.
If he stays fit this summer who knows we might see the Coleman we first saw 2 seasons ago, if he doesn't perform then we should look to sell next summer.

He's still only 23 and with the likes of Barkley, Junior, Green, Rodwell, Duffy, Hope and Lundstum it will be great if he comes good because our future looks good with these youngsters coming through and not forgetting the likes of Gibson, Naismith, Fellaini still 25 or under and Jelavic and Heitinga still only 26 the next 5 years could be unbelievable if everything goes to plan!

COYB 1878 THE CITIES FIRST

Paul

07 jul 2012 11:01:20
howard

hibbert jagielka heitinga baines

naismith fellaini gibson pienaar

osman
jelavic

subs
new gk
neville
distin
rodwell
coleman
barkley
rodellaga

i think that will be the team for the first game of the season v man united good starting line up the generals in centre mid pace on the right (naismith)creativity on the left (pienaar) the brain (ossie) behind the machine (jelavic)
great 6 players there with the back 4 and goalkeeper solid as a rock and great experience on the bench with neville and distin and youth in barkley and rodwell and pace in rodellaga(if he signs) and coleman!
great mix and id expect another signing before the 31st aswell.

coyb 2-1 first game, start well, confidence high, 3 years ago when we started well we finished 5th and got to the fa cup final. we have to start well we cant keep playing catch up come christmas {ed025's note - i enjoyed that mate, bit unsure of the brain starting..but good post..

07 Jul 2012 10:34:55
Sell - Yobo £1.7m, Anichebe £3.0m, Coleman £3.0m, Baxter £1.5m, Cahill £2.0m = £10.7m

In - Naismith £0 (Cahills replacement), Hoilett £5m (Colemans replacement), Pienaar £5m, Rodellga £0 (Anichebe replacement). = £10m

With change to spare and an extra person off the wages we would be able to afford the wages and have a much better squad. What do you reckon?

Mani {Ed025's Note - except for the cahill one, it seems you have it well worked out mani..

Hoilett is too expensive for us. A lad on twitter (johnmerro1) seems to think Moyes is tracking Vladi Weiss and Tom Ince, wouldn't need to break the bank for either, and both could play on that right wing position, a position we desperately need.

Get Benayoun on loan

Cahill is worth more than 2m to some of the far east teams - due to his marketing potential - reckon there could be a bidding
war and price might go higher than 2 {Ed025's Note - my guess is that he goes on a free next year..

We could cover hoiletts wage with cahill going and im pretty sure yobo was on quite abit a week?

Hoilett would only cost 4m

Hoilett would only cost 4mil? Compensation yes, then add signing on fee, agents fees, be looking at more 7mil. Not to mention he is demanding 80k a week, which would make him our highest paid player, and if that happens then the likes of Fellaini would look for a pay rise as well, thus distorting our wage budget.

Not happening.

07 Jul 2012 09:59:23
TOP10 PREDICTION THIS SEASON??
1. Man United
2. Man City
3. Chelsea
4. Arsenal
5. Everton
6. Tottenham
7. Liverpool
8. Newcastle
9. Sunderland
10. Aston Villa

Thoughts? {Ed025's Note - pretty fair..

Everton fourth above Arsenal

Dgsybluenose

Newcastle above RS

Bobcat

I cant see Arsenal finishing 4th, I mean, yes they could add some players, but the loss of Van Perise is big, I mean without his goals they would've finished 16th.

I cant see Everton finishing in the top 4, think that is a bit of a reach for us, injuries will occur and we simply don't have the money to spend on very good squad players.

1) United
2) Chewsi
3) Citeh
4) Everton
5) Gooners
6) Spurs
7) The Toon
8) Villa
9) The Sh*te
10) The Cottagers

07 Jul 2012 09:44:14
We are apparently in talks with Rodellaga over the weekend but he is also talking to Aston Villa, Swansea and QPR.
Another two clubs abroad are having talks with him early in the week. Then he will make a decision by next friday who he joins.
Good back up in my opinion. Doesn't score buckets of goals but he is hard working and quick, better option than Anichebe who I think his time has come to move on.
He's no longer "potential" he is turning 23 soon and showing no signs of being a first team regular. If we can get 2-3 million for him we should take it.
Steve {Ed025's Note - i agree..

Anichebe is 24

I'd bet me house on it that anichebe would score more goals if he goes to wigan

Why doesnt he do it fpr everton then

Cos he's play every game at wigan. Were at us. Evan his own fans are on his back

07 Jul 2012 06:27:53
some time back moysey mentioned he would have liked to have replaced some of the older members of his squad.....Tim Cahill must have known that probably included him. Cahill loves Everton but with the signing of Naismith and possibly others to follow, he may see the writing on the wall and decide he doesnt want to be a super sub player. If the right opportunity presents itself he may decide to cut the cord. If so, he's given great service and honest service,and all fans would wish him well. {Ed025's Note - he has been a great player for us..

I have to disagree mate Timmy absolutely loves the club and I believe he would be happy to stay as long as we will have him and I can see him finishing this contract and then finish up in the A league. As I posted the other day I reckon he still has plenty to offer.

SydneyBlue {Ed025's Note - my mate..tony bellew the boxer..knows tim very well, and he reckons he will end up in oz,

Hey ed I no Tony,the bomber,bellew,top bloke,and his trainers,and the guys that sponsor him,he's joining up with eddie Hearn and will be a lot more active,and hopefully will pick up a world title his talent deserves,a very humble evertonion with time for anyone who likes to talk boxing or about the blues,sat next to him in the park end at the clattenburg derby,...he's a very passionate blue,.....,at the time he was only known by avid boxing fans but not now,we've all taken him to are hearts,..........tristen {Ed025's Note - he is as blue as it gets tris, and does a lot of his training with the guys, a lot of them go to his fights..

I no ed,don't no if you heard he was at finch farm two weeks ago with sky filming him for ringside,he was going through his routine with johnny nellson and near the end of the session johnny blew his a.c.l,....keep your eye out should be on sky soon they tell me it was very funny,.........tristen

Hey Tris, why do you sound dead sensible lately mate, are you ok fella lol

Guess who? {Ed025's Note - hes been on the stella...lol

I think Cahill has 2 years left on his contract. I think he will play these next two seasons out if Everton want him and then move to oz to finish his career.
Iv'e watched the Tim Cahill DVD Unseen Journey and it's clear that he loves Everton but he loves Austrailia more and misses his family loads.
Moyes in my opinion will want Cahill at the club for his presence and influence on the new players and younger lads. Tim is a influential player in the dressing room and on the training ground and knows what is expected of Everton players under Moyes.
He will stay for the remainder of his contract and leave on a free which he deserves.

On the football side of things I think Cahill will benefit this season not having the burden off being the "match winner" ALL the time like he has had for the past few seasons we rely on him lot over the years to deliver in the big games and score goals.
Having that pressure off him and being used from the bench and managing him better (fitness, keeping him fresh) and possibly playing from a deeper position he will surprise some Everton fans who have written him off.
Steve {Ed025's Note - a lot of sense there steve, i think your spot on mate..

Degz, the reason is someone posted my picture profile in the ,,dodgy everton sightings,,,,,check me out bottom left,...am sure you'll agree I look the biz in all white

Brilliant post Steve, spot on mate

Bobcat

The bizz Tris lol, check out the cool birthday cake on facebook, degsycoolcool

Degsybluenose

07 Jul 2012 00:18:34
reports from the press is that rodallega is to hold talks with club officals to organise a deal for him to come to the club on a free transfer . The only stumbberling block is wages but it looks like he will be joining everton soon . Talks have also been held with hoilett and again just a matter of wages but far more clubs are intrested in him . what do you think ed ? {Ed025's Note - i think we have a decent chance with rodallega, but hoilett will be out of our reach mate..